UPSB v4

Advanced Tricks / Shadow

  1. Eso
    Date: Wed, Jun 9 2010 20:45:39

    The Shadow is a top spin trick that starts between 2 fingers, spins for 0.5 revolutions free of any finger force. There is a total of 1.5 revolutions. This trick can also be done in Reverse, Inverse, and Inverse Reverse. Video Tutorial by KTrinh93 Shadow Normal, Shadow Reverse and Continuous Shadow Still Video Tutorials by Pari Inverse Shadow Video Tutorial by Freeman UPSB Wiki entry

  2. Morpheus
    Date: Sat, Jul 17 2010 04:07:22

    Does anyone have advice on how to do the inverse shadow? I can never get it

  3. KTrinh93
    Date: Sat, Jul 17 2010 04:38:57

    FireFang wrote: Does anyone have advice on how to do the inverse shadow? I can never get it
    put your hand palm up with the pen in 12.. then pretend like ur doing a charge.. then release at the time you see in freeman's video tutorial

  4. Ryamashiro
    Date: Sat, Jul 17 2010 23:35:14

    FireFang wrote: Does anyone have advice on how to do the inverse shadow? I can never get it
    When u put ur palm up, try to do an inverse sonic and release it in the middle of it helped alot for me x)

  5. RdHg
    Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 00:56:50

    How do you do a shadow T1-12? tutorials? p.s whats the difference between shadow and shadow still?

  6. KTrinh93
    Date: Mon, Jul 19 2010 01:19:43

    RdHg wrote: whats the difference between shadow and shadow still?
    shadow still is shadow that starts and ends in the same slot.. so shadow 12-12, 23-23, 34-34, etc..

  7. RichardX
    Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 03:37:37

    can someone tell me how to do a shadow T1 to another finger slot?

  8. KTrinh93
    Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 04:34:38

    RichardX wrote: can someone tell me how to do a shadow T1 to another finger slot?
    bc the shadow t1 - xx starts in the thumbflap area, you will need to use a little more wrist motion here moving sideways.

  9. RichardX
    Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 05:03:51

    KTrinh93 wrote: bc the shadow t1 - xx starts in the thumbflap area, you will need to use a little more wrist motion here moving sideways.
    shouldnt it start more at the tips of your thumb and index finger?

  10. Luv_Spinning
    Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 11:01:05

    Argh shadow s too hard for me and you ppl are already discussing shadow still etc :lol:

  11. KTrinh93
    Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 13:41:26

    RichardX wrote: shouldnt it start more at the tips of your thumb and index finger?
    yes it should.. my bad.. i still consider it the thumbflap area D=

  12. Darealone
    Date: Sat, Aug 21 2010 05:29:56

    So how do u get the pen from t1 to 12? That's where u get lost on the shadow t1-12...

  13. Jamal
    Date: Sat, Aug 21 2010 14:53:09

    shadow from t1... land in 12... like a charge from t1 release on to the top of your hand for a spin landing in 12 O_o

  14. J A Z Z
    Date: Sat, Oct 23 2010 12:29:53

    I cant do the shadow perfectly everytime and i think i cant catch it with my middle finger.... anyhelp plz/?

  15. Hidekyo
    Date: Sat, Oct 23 2010 12:48:17

    Im learnening the sahdow to. Judt raise the middle finger when its in the spinning position and the pen will stop and slide down to your slot. It works if you practice it.

  16. Atsume
    Date: Sat, Oct 23 2010 13:08:10

    if you cant view this just add me http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/video.php?v=490520432264

  17. Hippo2626
    Date: Sat, Oct 23 2010 13:30:53

    Please post here next time: http://forum.upsb.info/showthread.php?t=94 You can try lowering your ring and pinky for the catch.

  18. Orizon
    Date: Thu, Nov 4 2010 22:34:03

    i so agree with u.

    Luv_Spinning wrote: Argh shadow s too hard for me and you ppl are already discussing shadow still etc :lol:

  19. Hidekyo
    Date: Thu, Nov 4 2010 23:07:23

    the shadow is a easy to launch and spin on your hand BUT for me the hard part was to catch or land the pen.

  20. KTrinh93
    Date: Fri, Nov 5 2010 03:14:33

    Hidekyo wrote: the shadow is a easy to launch and spin on your hand BUT for me the hard part was to catch or land the pen.
    Hmm.. that's generally the easier part (at least for me it was) it took me considerably more time to learn how to set the pen in motion compared to how long it took me to catch it :P

  21. shoeman6
    Date: Fri, Nov 5 2010 03:32:21

    Nah, the catch is hard for me as well... try focusing on control of your launch, do this by practicing spinnning something with a smaller diameter and lighter than your normal mod.

  22. pred
    Date: Fri, Nov 5 2010 12:01:32

    Easiest way i found to learn shadow rev, do a normal shadow still, continue the momentum into a 0.5 normal charge then do the reverse shadow.

  23. Dylan
    Date: Fri, Nov 5 2010 12:35:03

    is that a reverse shadow? I thought a reverse shadow spun counter-clockwise, which is much harder lol, if my way is correct, just practice neobaks then its easy.

  24. shoeman6
    Date: Fri, Nov 5 2010 12:40:32

    Yeah it's a shadow rev.. he was saying use the momentum from a normal to push it back the other way, neobaks help too, more with the spin, practice your palm down charge reverse and trying getting to it from another trick. :]

  25. Madmack25
    Date: Sun, Nov 21 2010 09:40:22

    Need Tips , i can do the shadow but the spin on top is not smooth, because of my knuckles ... little Help pls. Thanks.

  26. ChainBreak
    Date: Sun, Nov 21 2010 14:22:36

    I had that problem as well. You just have to spin the pen closer to your fingertips. Well that's how I solved this problem~

  27. Fli-Arounder97
    Date: Sat, Nov 27 2010 09:12:15

    shadow only is if it is moved from one slot to another? may be shadow 12-12 or 23 23?

  28. Fli-Arounder97
    Date: Sat, Nov 27 2010 09:13:48

    it is possible inverse shadow reverse?

  29. hahakumquat
    Date: Sat, Nov 27 2010 10:10:06

    yes, shadow's just the 1.5 rotation on the top of the hand and yes, an inverse shadow reverse would be an inverse shadow (spins on the "front" of the fingers) and in the reverse direction relative to a normal shadow (clockwise) i think. i know nothing about the definition of tricks lol. just do stuff :P

  30. Fli-Arounder97
    Date: Sat, Nov 27 2010 11:57:50

    hahakumquat is it 1,5 revolution rotation? i knew that it was 360 degrees rotation just from place to same place

  31. EpicSpinner
    Date: Sat, Dec 4 2010 18:09:22

    why is shadow so hard for me =[ been practising it for like a week and still havent got it

  32. Hidekyo
    Date: Sat, Dec 4 2010 19:23:44

    It takes a long time and practice. Watch Ktrinh's tutorial it was very helpful to me. Locate down the problem you have. Is that you cant launch the pen out from you fingers or it wont spin on top of your hand or you cant get the pen to go into the slots when you want it to? When your done lacating your problem think of a way to fiz it.

  33. spinnerhui
    Date: Sun, Dec 5 2010 02:02:33

    Personally, I learnt from eso's tutorial. And to clear something up, a shadow is 1.5 revs or more. It is done on top of the hand, If it does not move through the slots, ex. shadow 12-12. it is considered shadow still inverse shadow is on the opposite side of the hand, and reverse is launched with a charge reverse motion.

  34. MickChickenn
    Date: Wed, Dec 15 2010 05:32:33

    The Shadow is an advanced trick????

  35. Soren
    Date: Wed, Dec 15 2010 17:05:29

    after a long while i am starting to get this trick =] but now when i do it it ends in 3-4 =/ need to keep practicing to keep it at 1-2

  36. Kill
    Date: Wed, Apr 13 2011 05:41:03

    with shadows i cant seem to do them in 23 and 34 well but i think i got down 12 right, is there something slightly different that i need to know to get them down better in 23 and 34?

  37. capoboy
    Date: Fri, Apr 15 2011 04:51:49

    Should I try the still first or the usual one? 12-12 or 23-12?

  38. Enigmatic
    Date: Fri, Apr 15 2011 17:08:12

    capoboy wrote: Should I try the still first or the usual one? 12-12 or 23-12?
    @capoboy hmm start with 12-12, then 23-23, then 34-34, after that move from 12-23 ans 12-34 and so on there's too many ways to do shadow but start with the usual one and move on to harder ones like reverse and inverse shadows

  39. AKS
    Date: Tue, Apr 19 2011 03:57:55

    any tips to do shadow reverse? I can't get it well.

  40. Velocity
    Date: Tue, Apr 19 2011 06:37:30

    if a shadow spins more then 0.5 revolutions on the top of your hand is it still a shadow?

  41. Krypton
    Date: Tue, Apr 19 2011 08:58:22

    @Flash: Yes.

  42. PandaPaws
    Date: Sat, May 14 2011 12:15:37

    Sorry to bump up this thread. But does anyone have the same problem with me? When I try to do shadow, I always end up doing a sonic instead. Somehow I just can't really control and end up doing a sonic... So like, how do I solve this problem of doing a sonic instead of shadow?

  43. Krypton
    Date: Sat, May 14 2011 12:49:31

    I used to do that. You have to try to do it very slowly, and be very patient to do a Charge and let it slip out. Do it slowly, and let your muscle memory adjust to this new trick. @PandaPaws

  44. Alvaris
    Date: Sat, May 14 2011 14:01:32

    Try to do it at 12-12? that way you can't end up doing a sonic too.

  45. PandaPaws
    Date: Sat, May 14 2011 14:17:22

    @Alvaris What's 12-12.. lol I'm kind of new >< and don't really understand what people mean when they say 12-12 or 12-34 or something like that ><, mind explaining? :x

  46. Alvaris
    Date: Sat, May 14 2011 14:47:42

    Ahh. It's the finger notations. 12 the finger slot between your index and middle, 23 would be between middle and ring, 13 would be between index and ring, and so on. When you do a trick, lets say shadow 12-12 for example, it starts between your index and middle and ends up on the same place. If it's 12-23, it starts from between index and middle and ends up in between your middle and ring. T = Thumb 1 = Index 2 = Middle 3 = Ring 4 = Pinky

  47. Soren
    Date: Sat, May 14 2011 15:55:32

    lol i am still having trouble with this trick, its been like over 4 months lol

  48. PandaPaws
    Date: Sat, May 14 2011 16:04:48

    Oh! Hahaha! Thanks a lot for your detailed explanation! Shall remember this! :) @Supergirl 4 months! Hope I won't take so long to learn shadow ><

  49. Alvaris
    Date: Sat, May 14 2011 16:14:11

    Welcome, it didnt take me that long but still quite some time =p

  50. Velocity
    Date: Sun, May 15 2011 01:43:29

    Took me 2weeks to learn shadow still 1-2

  51. liquidfireKAN
    Date: Tue, May 17 2011 01:40:21

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXRokyp6urc is this a shadow or is this a sonic?

  52. Advecticity
    Date: Tue, May 17 2011 02:36:08

    It's a sonic : you're not catching it with 13 directly but it doesn't have that extra .5 spin on top of your fingers that defines the shadow.

  53. BboyEnGee
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 16:32:22

    all you have to do really is start and catch in the same finger slot

  54. 2Baka
    Date: Sat, May 28 2011 14:39:24

    Im not really sure how to do proper notations yet but would another way at looking at this be Charge Normal 12 [.5] > bak tap normal 12 [.5] > Raise index to catch[.5]? im looking a way to practice the spin part. Thanks

  55. tom19
    Date: Mon, Oct 17 2011 13:51:25

    Any tips for shadow? I can,t do it!

  56. Raos
    Date: Mon, Oct 17 2011 15:33:49

    there is a thread on this already please find it. /move thread

  57. Soren
    Date: Mon, Oct 17 2011 15:34:56

    this belongs in the shadow thread, but you're a new member so that's understandable there isnt much tips for the shadow other than understanding the motion of the trick and you just got to keep on practising, trust me i know, took me ever so long to learn the shadow, over 6 months (didnt practise it constantly though)

  58. Boxxy
    Date: Tue, Oct 18 2011 11:51:12

    i practiced constantly and learned it in a day mastered in 3

  59. EliteForce23
    Date: Tue, Oct 18 2011 12:22:26

    I thought it's impossible for me to do a shadow, but I learned and mastered it in 1 and a half week, not that constantly anyway.

  60. lolfus
    Date: Tue, Oct 18 2011 13:54:21

    I cant do the sonic to. i try it and try it and i gave up:D i hate this trick, so i perhaps i try it in some week again. or you guys gave me a good tip, you have one??

  61. Kari
    Date: Tue, Oct 18 2011 16:21:05

    lolfus wrote: I cant do the sonic to. i try it and try it and i gave up:D i hate this trick, so i perhaps i try it in some week again. or you guys gave me a good tip, you have one??
    Can you do charge palm down? It's basically a charge release palm down then makes one revolution on top of your hand and falls back into 12. You want to release about halfway through the charge.

  62. tom19
    Date: Thu, Oct 20 2011 02:21:19

    When I do shadow, I end up doing sonic. Any tips?

  63. HobbyLogics
    Date: Thu, Oct 20 2011 04:51:51

    tom19 wrote: When I do shadow, I end up doing sonic. Any tips?
    Sort of relax your hand, and then jerk your hand to the left(if you are right handed). To catch it, depending which fingerslot you want to put the pen in, you widen the gap between the two fingers and let the pen fall into it and have the rest of the momentum carry it to the ending position.

  64. tom19
    Date: Thu, Oct 20 2011 12:55:06

    HobbyLogics wrote: Sort of relax your hand, and then jerk your hand to the left(if you are right handed). To catch it, depending which fingerslot you want to put the pen in, you widen the gap between the two fingers and let the pen fall into it and have the rest of the momentum carry it to the ending position.
    If i start on 23, do i end in 23 or 12?

  65. HobbyLogics
    Date: Thu, Oct 20 2011 22:59:09

    @tom19 Depends where you want the pen to go because the shadow can go to whatever finger slot you want pretty much.

  66. Ceru Seiyu
    Date: Fri, Dec 30 2011 11:42:10

    How do I add extra revolutions to a shadow Eg. Shadow 2.0

  67. Boxxy
    Date: Sun, Jan 1 2012 05:53:27

    @eurocracy you dont catch and swing a little harder...Alot harder depending on the amount of revolutions

  68. flaming oracle
    Date: Sun, Jan 1 2012 10:40:03

    Wait does anyone kow how you woulddo a 13 shadow? I'm not getting it how does it become 13? Is there some kinda skip through or something.

  69. Chobi
    Date: Sun, Jan 1 2012 11:11:10

    flame sivics wrote: Wait does anyone kow how you woulddo a 13 shadow? I'm not getting it how does it become 13? Is there some kinda skip through or something.
    Skip through? Well a 13 Shadow would just spin on top of the ring and index fingers, in a position somewhat like you're doing a sonic, with the middle finger tucked down etc

  70. flaming oracle
    Date: Sun, Jan 1 2012 11:15:00

    Chobi wrote: Skip through? Well a 13 Shadow would just spin on top of the ring and index fingers, in a position somewhat like you're doing a sonic, with the middle finger tucked down etc
    i see now, well that makes more sense thanks

  71. fang
    Date: Sun, Jan 1 2012 11:24:39

    Chobi wrote: Skip through? Well a 13 Shadow would just spin on top of the ring and index fingers, in a position somewhat like you're doing a sonic, with the middle finger tucked down etc
    Noo, the shadow 13 mean the push of the pen is done by these fingerslots. Go watch some of Eriror's video's. He does alot of cont. shadow's 24.

  72. Chobi
    Date: Sun, Jan 1 2012 11:29:32

    fang wrote: Noo, the shadow 13 mean the push of the pen is done by these fingerslots. Go watch some of Eriror's video's. He does alot of cont. shadow's 24.
    It depends really. What i was talking about could be like Shadow Still 13-13 which could be done in two ways i guess

  73. fang
    Date: Sun, Jan 1 2012 11:34:19

    Chobi wrote: It depends really. What i was talking about could be like Shadow Still 13-13 which could be done in two ways i guess
    But in both ways it is for the push of the pen. both right nuff said!~ ^_^

  74. Eazy
    Date: Tue, Jan 3 2012 01:14:51

    Wait, I dun really get it, do you mean you start the shadow 13 with the charge motion like tone one from the sonic clip? If so, wouldn't the middle finger be a real pain?

  75. Kazuki
    Date: Sun, Jan 15 2012 11:46:30

    Well this is what we say , practise makes perfect :D

    Madmack25 wrote: Need Tips , i can do the shadow but the spin on top is not smooth, because of my knuckles ... little Help pls. Thanks.

  76. neowulf
    Date: Sun, Jan 15 2012 15:31:01

    I completely agree with you @Synchronize, it's ALL practice xP that's the hard part. Just looking at the move every time you do it, and trying to see if you need to flatten your hand more or close your fingers more or any number of tiny details. The people who are good at it make it look so easy! But I can see a marked improvement after just practicing it for like hours and hours @.@ It's worth it though!

  77. Miku
    Date: Sun, Jan 22 2012 05:40:46

    JFSLADKFDSKJ. shadow is the only trick that has me completely stumped .__. i've never been frustrated with any other trick (which isn't a lot, but still) i've learnt so far, but shadow makes me want to repeatedly stab someone with my pen :banghead: specific tips please? "practice" isn't specific. =__= i didn't find ktrinh's tut very helpful (sorry, must be my comprehension skills i guess Dx) . like can someone explain to me the movement of my fingers? (how the should move, in other words) i.e. for charge: the bottom finger should move past the top finger back and forth something like that o__e @Danny116 help? D:

  78. Olji
    Date: Sun, Jan 22 2012 11:44:52

    @Miku One tip I found very helpful was to relax in your hand when you do it.

  79. Danny116
    Date: Sun, Jan 22 2012 16:59:59

    @Miku do charge continuous, palm down, with most of the pen ABOVE your hand. when you get the hang of that, slow down the charge motion, look at the pen, you should release, when the pen is look perpendicular to your fingers, and you index is below your middle. now the tricky part is to force your index down, allowing the pen to slide out of the finger slot, for teh 0.5 spin. After you get that, scissor your fingers to get the index above the middle, and the pen should slide into place and i recommend a NON KT style mod for learning this trick, as well as a high degree of patience. it took me 3 weeks to get this down xD Good Luck!

  80. Miku
    Date: Sun, Jan 22 2012 17:06:33

    Olji wrote: One tip I found very helpful was to relax in your hand when you do it.
    thanks. i actually starting getting it right after i posted xD i can do shadow 12-23 but i'm having problems on shadow still (12-12) .__. any tips? i guess it really is just practice xD edit: @Danny116 thanks :3 that was helpful *-*

  81. Lucid
    Date: Tue, Jan 24 2012 21:34:41

    can a shadow just spin on you index finger or is that another trick

  82. Boxxy
    Date: Tue, Jan 24 2012 21:38:28

    @inarewski902 its a shadow

  83. Lucid
    Date: Tue, Jan 24 2012 21:41:27

    @platinumsj thanks

  84. Boxxy
    Date: Tue, Jan 24 2012 21:47:46

    NP

  85. xXDIVINITYXx
    Date: Sat, Feb 25 2012 05:05:47

    Ive been having trouble catching it after the spin any advice??? Sent from xXDIVINITYXx

  86. Pen Ninja
    Date: Sat, Feb 25 2012 05:31:42

    I found shadow a whole lot easier if you move ur finger as little as possible when I first learned I would move my entire index finger from the 1st joint. but all-in-all it's a whole lot easier if you just bend your index finger from the last 2 joints JUST enough to let the pen out, then straighten your finger again lift with your 1sr joint JUST enough to let the pen back in btw I can see ur a anew member but remember to use the search next time as I'm sure there's already a shadow thread mods will probly merge threads anyway

  87. flaming oracle
    Date: Sat, Feb 25 2012 06:45:25

    If you can get the spin i just say point your finger up lol easy explaination if you can get the spin as soon as you get that spin point your index finger and done! Shadow if not move your arm with it to get use to the motion

  88. Hippo2626
    Date: Sat, Feb 25 2012 07:18:21

    There is a search function use it next time @xXDIVINITYXx

  89. Dimension
    Date: Sun, Mar 4 2012 05:06:09

    whats everyones continous shadow record? mines 24 all 12-12 im sure thats gonna seem really bad when people starting saying way higher numbers lol

  90. Karrot
    Date: Mon, Mar 5 2012 22:13:12

    Dimension wrote: whats everyones continous shadow record? mines 24 all 12-12 im sure thats gonna seem really bad when people starting saying way higher numbers lol
    nope. mines only 19 when I tried it a minute ago

  91. ThundraByte
    Date: Wed, Mar 21 2012 03:20:16

    I started at 1-2 but I end up catching it on 3-4, but I need to catch on 1-2 to perform the shadow still, help please.

  92. Dimension
    Date: Wed, Mar 21 2012 06:19:19

    ThundraByte wrote: I started at 1-2 but I end up catching it on 3-4, but I need to catch on 1-2 to perform the shadow still, help please.
    I used to do that aswell :/ Try to tilt your hand a bit more so that it stays above your index and middle fingers the whole time. or you could try to use less hand motion all together (i use none at all lol) so you can control it a bit better. ok ive saved the best method for last..... Practice. :D

  93. Karrot
    Date: Wed, Mar 21 2012 21:27:21

    Dimension wrote: I used to do that aswell :/ Try to tilt your hand a bit more so that it stays above your index and middle fingers the whole time. or you could try to use less hand motion all together (i use none at all lol) so you can control it a bit better. ok ive saved the best method for last..... Practice. :D
    @ThundraByte ^ that's what I did, it works

  94. ThundraByte
    Date: Sat, Mar 24 2012 06:35:59

    Thanks guys. =)

  95. Miku
    Date: Wed, Apr 4 2012 01:02:22

    what do you call a shadow with more than one revolutions on the back of your hand, then a catch? just shadow or is there any specific notation for that?

  96. Fuse
    Date: Wed, Apr 4 2012 01:34:40

    Miku, it is a shadow x.y. Meaning if you did a shadow 12-12 with 3.5 rotations, it would be a shadow 3.5 12-12. The notation is just adding the amount of spins (which isn't necessary for a shadow 1.0) IIRC.

  97. Alex
    Date: Wed, Apr 4 2012 01:46:56

    this trick took me a month to get..... other tricks are easier for me

  98. Nashi
    Date: Tue, May 1 2012 19:41:19

    I love palm up shadows. :3 a bit hard to learn but so nice.

  99. Dimension
    Date: Wed, May 2 2012 11:45:10

    Lol you mean inverse shadows? Yeah they feel cool haha

  100. Nashi
    Date: Wed, May 2 2012 11:48:08

    Yep, lol dunno why i didn't say inverse shadows. ^^

  101. XenoGeneiken
    Date: Wed, Feb 20 2013 14:59:25

    So can anyone provide me some tips on how to do the shadow? Whenever I swing for the momentum the pen gets stuck between my index and middle, what should I move so it spins on top of my hand? Some vids would be nice, thanks :)

  102. Awesome
    Date: Wed, Feb 20 2013 15:29:19

    get your palm down charge really good, then you just let the pen slide out of the slot for the rotation.

  103. Enkronidus
    Date: Wed, Feb 20 2013 19:36:22

    Shadow is very similar to Sonic with 1.5 spins, it might be helpful if you think it that way. The very first Shadow I learned was 23-12 normal which I did it using Sonic 1.5 method. I believe it might be helpful in some way if you try. Sonic 1.5 [At 0:55] Shadow 12-12 is sort of different, however. The easiest way in my opinion is from Charge Normal. So like Awesome said, you want to work on it for a bit. Or try swinging it as harmonic motion then squeeze your index and middle. The other way is simulating the trick by using the other hand of yours moving the pen and complete the trick to get the feeling of how the trick is done. Good luck! Shadow is my favourite trick. :)

  104. Demotaiz
    Date: Thu, Feb 21 2013 01:58:35

    To get it out of the 12 slot raise up you middle finger during the charge, quickly put your index and your middle finger together so its level and let the pen do .5 rotations. Then raise your index finger up slightly to catch it. Hope this helps :) I may put a video of the shadow and slomo it for you. Edit: Got the video done! [video=youtube;kk9oPhn8flQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk9oPhn8flQ&feature=youtu.be[/video]

  105. Tofunftw
    Date: Thu, Feb 21 2013 02:14:31

    do what everyone above told you and make sure your fingers arent tense. loosen them and do the charge

  106. Sheriff
    Date: Wed, Jul 10 2013 18:00:37

    I <3 Shadow, just learned it the other day. But I can't seem to do the Reverse... AT ALL! The closest I've gotten, is doing a reverse [fingerless?] topspin around my pointer.. >_< I see that in tutorial vids people do 1 Charge before doing the Shadow Reverse, is that necessary? I just don't have the coordination or timing to manage that. Or somehow get the pen to not go off around my pointer instead of into the slot.. -.- Any tips? ^.^

  107. Dern Goid
    Date: Wed, Jul 10 2013 19:19:03

    loosen up ur fingers and in the initial swing bring your index finger down and let the momentum drive the pen and catch ;)

  108. Sheriff
    Date: Fri, Jul 12 2013 20:35:27

    What I like to do is a Shadow -> Fingerless Thumbaround Harmonic, I've found that it's the easiest combo to do with a Shadow and can be repeated infinitely, fast or slow. And it's really fun :P

  109. Infiknight
    Date: Sat, Jul 13 2013 02:21:10

    Same here, my fingers get stuck

  110. BlueFingers
    Date: Sat, Nov 23 2013 06:02:09

    Whenever I do the shadow right at the first 0.5 revolution where the pen is parallel to my fingers instead of letting go and doing the spin my index and middle still latch on to it and I sort of do a loopy charge. Help!

  111. ChowCow
    Date: Sat, Nov 23 2013 21:23:31

    ok so try doing a shadow still 12 12 and when you are trying to release the pen and let it spin on your hand, try tucking you index finger in front of your middle finger, that way the pen has no where to go except on top of your hand and spin. to catch it just raise your index finger up and lower your middle finger. hope it helps because that's how i do my shadow ^_^ @BlueFingers

  112. BlueFingers
    Date: Sun, Nov 24 2013 02:45:07

    ChowCow wrote: ok so try doing a shadow still 12 12 and when you are trying to release the pen and let it spin on your hand, try tucking you index finger in front of your middle finger, that way the pen has no where to go except on top of your hand and spin. to catch it just raise your index finger up and lower your middle finger. hope it helps because that's how i do my shadow ^_^ @BlueFingers
    Thanx I sorta got it now. I can make it spin constantly on my hand. Right now I'm just trying to make it do the spin. Got a 7/10 success rate. Once it goes higher I will try to make it spin on my index and middle instead of flying over then gradually open up the two fingers to make a slot to slide in Thanx for help once again.

  113. Whirlpool
    Date: Sun, Nov 24 2013 17:39:41

    BlueFingers wrote: Whenever I do the shadow right at the first 0.5 revolution where the pen is parallel to my fingers instead of letting go and doing the spin my index and middle still latch on to it and I sort of do a loopy charge. Help!
    It didn't happened so I'm not much help but I can try. When it was coming around rise your middle finger and then lower upper index finger. It should go on top and for the catch, raise your index finger should slide in. Hope I helped. Edit: Fail, didn't see chowchow's reply, well hope it still helps. I guess

  114. Aldragon
    Date: Sun, Dec 1 2013 23:01:38

    This trick takes forever to learn -_-

  115. Infiknight
    Date: Sun, Jan 5 2014 12:15:56

    maybe just jerk ur hand to the side or somethin

  116. N Factorial
    Date: Wed, Feb 26 2014 02:32:12

    I only get this trick 1/4 of the time. It hits my knuckles or wrist the rest of the time, and the pencil just stops. Any tips to get it to move up over the hand more often?

  117. Zen
    Date: Wed, Feb 26 2014 03:04:52

    N Factorial wrote: I only get this trick 1/4 of the time. It hits my knuckles or wrist the rest of the time, and the pencil just stops. Any tips to get it to move up over the hand more often?
    Ktrihn93's video is incorrect, the trick is not a "swing". You should apply no force at all. The trick is like holding the pen between a fingerslot and tn squeezing them. Try spinning with most of the penn outwards.understand the motion also . Regards Zen

  118. Tommy
    Date: Wed, Feb 26 2014 03:29:34

    Zen wrote: Ktrihn93's video is incorrect, the trick is not a "swing". You should apply no force at all. The trick is like holding the pen between a fingerslot and tn squeezing them. Try spinning with most of the penn outwards.understand the motion also . Regards Zen
    I'm certain it can be either. Does that mean a lot of wt spinners are doing a "shadow" incorrectly?

  119. Shiftyei
    Date: Wed, Feb 26 2014 14:28:06

    I've always thought it as a sonic 12 to get it started

  120. Zen
    Date: Thu, Feb 27 2014 19:17:29

    Tommy wrote: I'm certain it can be either. Does that mean a lot of wt spinners are doing a "shadow" incorrectly?
    Well i am pretty sure you are right, it can be either, but this is the way i do it and i only do it because when, i watched Ktrihn93's video on the sonic, it was shit. He didn't explain anything and got me more confused. I actually had to spend more time just understanding it because his explanations are too obscure and general. Ktrihn93 is a good starting point but self exploration is the best method of learning (at least for me) Regards Zen

  121. Monk
    Date: Mon, Mar 3 2014 02:12:43

    Of all the tricks I know, Shadows one of the most 'loosed cannoned'.