UPSB v4
Advanced Tricks / Sym Bak
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Date: Tue, Jul 12 2011 19:26:12
sooo...if you have some quesdions about this trick,post it here too!
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Date: Tue, Jul 12 2011 19:50:34
is the pen supposed to be in the t1 slot before the fl ta? mine isn't
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Date: Tue, Jul 12 2011 20:05:01
no,starts at 34,shadow or pinky bust,T1 and quickly turn your hand to do the Fl Ta
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Date: Tue, Jul 12 2011 21:27:53
bd: shadow 34 to FL TA
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Date: Tue, Jul 12 2011 21:30:39
hum...thanks
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Date: Tue, Jul 12 2011 21:34:43
Wow, I had been doing this for like a long time and I didn't know it had an actual name xD nice
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Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 02:07:07
its the end part of the hai tua but you start on 34
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Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 02:15:42
this is NOT the end part of hai tua =__=" [video=youtube;BSDz4Mf03hA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSDz4Mf03hA&feature=related[/video] [video=youtube;fjcLgI3t00c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjcLgI3t00c&feature=related[/video]
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Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 03:35:38
symmetrical backaround: pinky around 34-tf > fl TA tf-tf thumbflap notations suck essentially ur doing a pinky around but catching in thumbflap, then doing a FLTA there is a catch in TF, this is important alternatively u could do it like hai tua and not catch the pen half way through the trick... but that's not a real sym bak ;D
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Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 06:09:12
it is pinky around rev > ta
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Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 07:25:33
Sam wrote: its the end part of the hai tua but you start on 34
no its not, sym bak has a full fl ta, a hait tua ends with the second half of a fl ta, which is fl ta 0.5 -
Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 11:25:15
Pen Ninja wrote: symmetrical backaround: pinky around 34-tf > fl TA tf-tf thumbflap notations suck essentially ur doing a pinky around but catching in thumbflap, then doing a FLTA there is a catch in TF, this is important alternatively u could do it like hai tua and not catch the pen half way through the trick... but that's not a real sym bak ;D
After looking to vics video,I would say that it is: shadow34-34,piky around rev >Fl TA.so this is the Bd -
Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 12:01:02
DArKT wrote: After looking to vics video,I would say that it is: shadow34-34,piky around rev >Fl TA.so this is the Bd
i think it not consist any shadow .. -
Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 13:43:12
I think it's best notated as Shadow 34-34~ fl TA. Easy to understand? The difference between SymBak and the ending of a Haitua is that SymBak contains no aerials.
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Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 13:49:55
Krypton wrote: I think it's best notated as Shadow 34-34~ fl TA. Easy to understand? The difference between SymBak and the ending if a Haitua is that Symbak contains no aerials.
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Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 14:39:37
Shadow 34-34 or Devil Around 34?
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Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 14:53:44
GigaByte wrote: it is pinky around rev > ta
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Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 22:37:26
its more like an interrupted shadow,then the pinky around rev,Fl TA
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Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 22:46:52
its a shadow 34 to FL TA. Thats it. No pinkyaround. No second half of hai tua. None of that. There is no more to it than a shadow and a FL TA.
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Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 22:48:51
DArKT wrote: After looking to vics video,I would say that it is: shadow34-34,piky around rev >Fl TA.so this is the Bd
Sorry. I accidentally liked your post. -
Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 23:00:21
MickChickenn wrote: Sorry. I accidentally liked your post.
thats okay...like more! -
Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 23:28:06
I still think charge 0,5 > pinkyaround > fl Ta is a better breakdown o_o
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Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 23:31:20
it could be...but charge 0.5+pinky around rev=shadow 34?
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Date: Thu, Jul 14 2011 00:46:19
Shadow 34-TF > Fl TA Pinky Bak Reverse 34-TF > Fl. TA Either or. :/ Just be sure that it's not an aerial.
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Date: Thu, Jul 14 2011 05:55:01
this tricks only consist pinky around rev > fl TA .. ok we ask pro people .. is my breakdown correct ? @Erirornal Kraione
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Date: Thu, Jul 14 2011 09:18:27
@GigaByte probably correct.cuz what you call pinky around rev and pinky symmetrical back are the same. key3's trick of that is not just a trick,but pinky-sym bak→ta [video=youtube;ik1NDo24mG0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik1NDo24mG0[/video] index's finisher in this video is sym bak.ta is not necessary.
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Date: Thu, Jul 14 2011 13:43:31
FL pinkyaround 34-TF -> FLTA The catch after the pinkyaround is kinda tricky, it takes some time to make it smooth. But it is very easy, just needs practice.
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Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 00:10:15
it could be...shadow34-pinky bak rev-Tf-Fl TA...no aerial...somebody desagre now?
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Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 00:15:03
god... can this be? its a pinky around like you'd usually do, palm down, opening from a shadow [video=youtube;YRa3Yshgplg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRa3Yshgplg&feature=related[/video] BUT, you catch it in thumbflap THE PEN STILL GOES AROUND YOUR PINKY when you get to thumbflap, turn your hand sideways do a normal FLTA [video=youtube;NKOMXQTsQkU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKOMXQTsQkU[/video] [video=youtube;fjcLgI3t00c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjcLgI3t00c[/video] Vic turns his hand earlier than i mention above but thats because he's better than u and thats how u do it smoother
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Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 00:24:26
ok,thanks,but...whe are just discussing the breakdown...
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Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 01:12:19
pinky around 34-tf [D] > FLTA [P] i think it's [D] and [P] for palm up and down... I actually forget =[
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Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 07:07:14
isn't the breakdown unclear, because a shadow 34-TF can have the pen going under or over the fingers?
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Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 07:33:22
It's definitely not Shadow, you get the idea. Because then, it would look totally different if it were Shadow. I can make a clarification video if you want. The breakdown is Charge 34[Same direction as what is going to follow, but palm down. Not sure if it's normal or reverse]~> PinkyBak Around Reverse 34-TF -> Fl. TA SymBak is more like a mini-combo to me rather than a hybrid. You pause in TF, then Fl. TA, it's not in a row. Not sure what is so hard about this. =/
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Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 11:23:25
One of my favorite trick. I can also start it with a Twisted Sonic > TA. Just like Hai Tua. But still, I can do the traditional.
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Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 12:54:01
erik123098 wrote: One of my favorite trick. I can also start it with a Twisted Sonic > TA. Just like Hai Tua. But still, I can do the traditional.
I like linking it to a hai tua,after the fl ta...looks cool for finisher -
Date: Sat, Jul 16 2011 12:09:42
@DArKT Whoa. Looks like a double. :D
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Date: Sun, Jul 17 2011 02:57:50
erik123098 wrote: @DArKT Whoa. Looks like a double. :D
no. Looks like a Sym bak to hai tua...kkkkkkkk im kiding.but yeah,looks very good -
Date: Tue, Aug 2 2011 10:03:57
DArKT wrote: no. Looks like a Sym bak to hai tua...kkkkkkkk im kiding.but yeah,looks very good
Pretty hard too? Guess so. -
Date: Mon, Aug 8 2011 15:02:41
[video=youtube;O5d2q92RQ-g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5d2q92RQ-g[/video] i recorded this few days ago, , hope it helps :)
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Date: Mon, Aug 8 2011 16:32:57
ExeR wrote: [video=youtube;O5d2q92RQ-g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5d2q92RQ-g[/video] i recorded this few days ago, , hope it helps :)
,hum...not this exactly... Sym Bak>Hai tua Sym Bak,in the final thumb around,you do it like the hai tua way,and finishes with hai tua excellent finisher -
Date: Sun, Aug 14 2011 06:38:30
Guys, shadow spins purely on top of the hand. We all know that it goes around the pinky, so the BD is either: Pinkyaround 34-TF > FL TA TF-TF or Devil's Around 34-TF > FL TA TF-TF. can be started by either a shadow or just a pinkyaround motion
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Date: Mon, Aug 29 2011 02:24:52
so.... what if you start the trick in slot 12? what's it called? (I start a trick i call the 'cheat hai tua' by tw sonic >fake double>sym bak from 12)
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Date: Mon, Aug 29 2011 19:55:49
Eazy1995 wrote: so.... what if you start the trick in slot 12? what's it called? (I start a trick i call the 'cheat hai tua' by tw sonic >fake double>sym bak from 12)
Its called Tw sonic>fake double T2-34>sym bak...:trollface: -
Date: Sat, Jul 13 2013 02:10:11
Anyone have any tips on that? The ones I do are not consistant.