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Trading / Buying / Trade Value/Scammer Discussion
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Date: Mon, Jul 5 2010 00:23:39
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Date: Mon, Jul 5 2010 02:19:56
anyone know what the general price for an authentic white comssa is? I'm just curious
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Date: Wed, Jul 7 2010 23:31:26
prolly like 2$ but something tells me the value is going to fall a bit
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Date: Thu, Jul 8 2010 05:27:24
what is the value of an 3000*f? i remember seeing hoiboy asking the same question, and someone said that it was equivalent to a pack of rushons/$12. is this true
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Date: Thu, Jul 8 2010 05:48:39
depends on the colors generally 15$+
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Date: Thu, Jul 8 2010 07:02:20
shonenbatman wrote: what is the value of an 3000*f? i remember seeing hoiboy asking the same question, and someone said that it was equivalent to a pack of rushons/$12. is this true
3000*f's should be ~25$..30 at highest? :dunno: 25 i know for sure, ive seen it around alot :p -
Date: Fri, Jul 9 2010 19:50:57
well f-3000 is 15$ i read it wrong thought he wrote f-3000 not 3000*f yah 25-30 is about right
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Date: Sat, Jul 10 2010 12:53:55
[spoiler=fair or not?] 1 kUzu g3, 2 needlepoints, 5 USD for 6 anyballs, 6 new hgrs, 4 signo rts and 3 g3s. [/spoiler] Fair or scam? Just not that sure
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Date: Sat, Jul 10 2010 12:57:59
A bit too much for the person giving the anyballs, new hgrs etc, unless that person is willing to trade that much for a kuzu and a few needlepoints + 5USD
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Date: Sun, Jul 11 2010 11:46:31
follow up q. Average price of a kUzu g3 mod?
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Date: Sun, Jul 11 2010 12:45:10
a nice one is about 25. can go higher. can go less
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Date: Mon, Jul 12 2010 13:07:24
darkrose wrote: well f-3000 is 15$ i read it wrong thought he wrote f-3000 not 3000*f yah 25-30 is about right
I wish f-3000 was $15... but it's more like $5 -
Date: Tue, Jul 20 2010 03:54:49
i meant the mod
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Date: Mon, Jul 26 2010 21:41:46
2 packs of color beifa for 2 buster cyl, 20 sailor and 4 emboss mods - is it normal?
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Date: Fri, Jul 30 2010 14:37:27
what is the value of an old namae ?
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Date: Sat, Jul 31 2010 03:45:58
Ive seen anywhere from $0.50 to $4. I would say a fair price is $1.50 - $2
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Date: Sat, Jul 31 2010 04:49:54
yurchik wrote: 2 packs of color beifa for 2 buster cyl, 20 sailor and 4 emboss mods - is it normal?
DEFITNATELY NOT. one color beifa is ~3 or 4 dollars USD. so if you were to accept his offer, [color=red]which im not saying you should[/color] it would be: 32$ <->30$+40$+60$. so, either ask him to give you a million more colour beifa packs, or decline -
Date: Sat, Jul 31 2010 06:11:30
Value of well made any-x? And i mean perfect, I use a jigsaw to cut them straight. Or something of equivalent value i could trade for.
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Date: Sun, Aug 1 2010 16:59:23
The MOST I would pay for an any-x would probably be $4. Just so you know there is little to no demand for any-x's these days.
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Date: Mon, Aug 2 2010 02:25:35
hey guys, whats the value for a dr. kt and a pendolsa silver c.s v.9 comssa. ive been offered $23 for the kt, and $10 for hte comssa, dose that sound about right?
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Date: Mon, Aug 2 2010 02:43:01
whoa whoa. i hate these people who act like pds comssas v7 and up are so rare. you can ge it on pds ebay for a lot less im pretty sure. kt sounds fair but I'd say $4 MAX on the pds comssa
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Date: Mon, Aug 2 2010 04:02:08
4 ZT pens and 4 round stics for 2 CT Caps, 3 Sailors, and a DC Old Namae. Is this fair?
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Date: Mon, Aug 2 2010 04:19:32
ZTs are what $2 ea? so basically $8 + $1 for the bics vs $4 + $6 sailors + $2 namae I'd say thats pretty fair. guy on right is giving a bit more but eh its only about $3
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Date: Mon, Aug 2 2010 04:35:11
ZT's are 6$ for 2 where I buy them, so they're 3$ each
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Date: Mon, Aug 2 2010 04:35:43
hey nachoaddict, u seem to be pretty good with pens, can u tell me which of these pens cost the most and how much? cuz im trying to sell them but idk the value of any of them, thx alot [hide]
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Date: Mon, Aug 2 2010 04:35:49
even though I know this trade is monetarily disadvantaged to me already, and I don't care that much, i'll see others' opinions. Minwoo mod+4 beifas (maybe some colored, some not)+6 ZT brights <> Green neon Waterfall mod (jap grips).
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Date: Mon, Aug 2 2010 04:49:28
those orange capped ucpsb bics are pretty rare but im not sure of their value. that dr kt (silver body and red and blue grips) probably costs around $20
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Date: Mon, Aug 2 2010 05:45:57
Does anyone know about a guy named Mitc? I'm think about making him send first because the guy he last traded with has -1 and +1...I dunno it seems kinda fishy
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Date: Mon, Aug 9 2010 22:18:25
hey guys, im getting some sell offers from people that have joined within the last month with 0 posts. are they trusted people to trade with?
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Date: Mon, Aug 9 2010 22:21:08
kasra12321 wrote: hey guys, im getting some sell offers from people that have joined within the last month with 0 posts. are they trusted people to trade with?
uh well if you're selling i wouldn't worry about it. usually money is sent first, then pens. -
Date: Mon, Aug 9 2010 22:30:26
k2 wrote: uh well if you're selling i wouldn't worry about it. usually money is sent first, then pens.
hmm, thx i didn't know when you sold, the money is sent first -
Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 16:30:49
let me ask , 4 G3's for 1 line style , is this fair ? -_-
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Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 16:33:53
no. 1 line style = 1 maybe 2 G3s.
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Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 16:43:55
thanks mate , it really helps ! :D
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Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 16:49:25
how much is a impact mx?
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Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 19:39:07
How much do Joey mods go for?
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Date: Sat, Aug 14 2010 19:42:31
well made impact mx id pay anywhere from $16 to $22 for
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Date: Sun, Aug 15 2010 14:34:34
how much are renyolds 094 worth? how much are buster cyl worth?
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Date: Sun, Aug 15 2010 16:01:31
reynolds are $2-3 each. a buster is $10-14
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Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 20:46:59
how much is shipping on penstorm?never mind it's probably too expensive -
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 23:13:54
not really duee check here: http://penstorm.fr/shipping the first and third boxes are for france only so ignore those. the second box is regular mail serivewhich takes 4-8 days while the fourth box is a registered mail service called collisimo in france that delivers a bit faster but the price gets pretty expensive. i would go for an option in box 2 since its the cheapest there
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Date: Sat, Aug 21 2010 22:28:27
Nachoaddict wrote: not really duee check here: http://penstorm.fr/shipping the first and third boxes are for france only so ignore those. the second box is regular mail serivewhich takes 4-8 days while the fourth box is a registered mail service called collisimo in france that delivers a bit faster but the price gets pretty expensive. i would go for an option in box 2 since its the cheapest there
oh wow, i didn't even see that. thanks a ton. -
Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 15:11:00
1 G3 --> 2 mini spoko grips , is this ok ? :-\
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Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 16:18:01
G3 = $2.50 Spoko Mini Grip = $0.50 (Full pen is $0.60) from PPP trader of course. From trader from other country, Spoko mini = $1.00 each. $2.50 VS $1.00 (PPP Trader) No. However you do have to consider the Spoko mini's trade value going up now because they were discontinued or osmething recently so all these ppp traders are raving about how it's "rare" now. Even thought they have boatloads of em. So don't let em rip you off too much ;) $2.50 VS $2 (different trader) Seems pretty fair.
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Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 18:08:21
WHOA WHOA WHOA. 1 spoko=50 cents? I bought a spoko GRIP for 2.50$USD. spoko grips (imo) are worth 2$USD and up. depending on colours.
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Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 20:06:59
in poland they are fuckin cheap.
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Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 20:52:10
spoko are polish bics. they are not discontinued as of yet. still can buy them online and through distributor. i'd say 1.00 is fair 2.50 is complete rip
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Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 20:54:10
yeah thanks pw lol. anyways then why are these ppp traders raving about how spokos are rare now? =.= kinda like what happened with old namaes
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Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 20:55:51
WHAT? FUCK YOU PARI.
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Date: Mon, Aug 23 2010 21:02:25
Just talked with polish buddy. He says that it is harder to find but not really rare yet. so i'd say if you can find a good trader go ahead and get em ^^
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Date: Sun, Aug 29 2010 06:31:19
anyone know a site that sells the old japanese dr. grips? besides penwish for now because i want diff colors
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Date: Tue, Aug 31 2010 19:31:46
value of ballsign mod?
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Date: Wed, Sep 1 2010 23:45:45
is a kuzu mod worth $25? i jst think mods over $20 are overpriced
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Date: Wed, Sep 1 2010 23:52:21
some are worth $30-35. Neptune sold his ice kuzu for over $70 i think. If you dont like it deal with it ;)
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Date: Wed, Sep 1 2010 23:59:13
wow, so $25 is cheap or about regular?
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Date: Thu, Sep 2 2010 00:03:57
It's a decent price.
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Date: Thu, Sep 2 2010 01:12:32
well made kuzu with good grip cut is easily 30-35+
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Date: Thu, Sep 2 2010 01:14:10
25 is generally the lowest someone'll go for a kuzu
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Date: Thu, Sep 2 2010 12:02:21
Hi ! What is the value of a watercolor body skyblue or cyan ?
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Date: Sat, Sep 4 2010 06:33:36
Value of: RSVP mx A RSVP clear body plus 3 other body and 4 cap 4 rsvp back plugs with hole in them Bic body without back pulg Piliot g2 grip Teflon tape Random RSVP insert per each body I offered $12 for this. good deal?
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Date: Sat, Sep 4 2010 08:29:28
How much is it to send bubble mailer through the mail domestically?
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Date: Sat, Sep 4 2010 08:39:06
it's based on weight. i can put a feather in one or a brick. it'd be very different you'd have to b more specific
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Date: Sat, Sep 4 2010 08:43:30
Just pens in general. How do they weigh it? I'm planning on just putting the bubb;e mailer in my mailbox and waiting for the mailman to pick it up. is there no flat rate?
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Date: Sat, Sep 4 2010 09:15:30
how many pens and no there's no flat rate unless u use flatrate stuff
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Date: Sat, Sep 4 2010 09:17:09
Oh, let's say a KT
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Date: Sat, Sep 4 2010 11:16:53
1.50-2.0
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Date: Sat, Sep 4 2010 11:17:13
you know you can just goto the post office site and look for yourself
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Date: Sat, Sep 4 2010 18:16:22
Is this worth $5? A RSVP clear body plus 3 other body and 4 cap 4 rsvp back plugs with hole in them Bic body without back pulg Piliot g2 grip
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Date: Sat, Sep 4 2010 18:37:11
lol so 4 rsvps without the grip? if you want to make an mx then its not worth it because theres no rsvp grip, so i say no its not worth it
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Date: Sat, Sep 4 2010 22:48:05
Thanks penwish!
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Date: Sat, Sep 4 2010 23:19:16
2 rsvp 1 sunburst 3 hggs for 4 g3s. fair?
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Date: Sat, Sep 4 2010 23:31:46
the guy giving the g3's needs to bump up his offer
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Date: Sat, Sep 4 2010 23:52:44
I think 5 g3s would be fair.
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Date: Sun, Sep 5 2010 02:11:45
how about with the grip?
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Date: Sun, Sep 5 2010 02:14:20
if there were 4 rsvps in total with the grip and then all the other stuff, then yes, 5 dollars is reasonable
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Date: Mon, Sep 6 2010 20:00:14
how much cost f3000?
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Date: Mon, Sep 6 2010 20:34:55
yurchik wrote: how much cost f3000?
$25-$30 -
Date: Mon, Sep 6 2010 21:11:07
he said f-3000 not 3000*f and its only one f-3000 not even the mod....... not worth that 25-30imo
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Date: Mon, Sep 6 2010 21:31:02
darkrose wrote: he said f-3000 not 3000*f and its only one f-3000 not even the mod....... not worth that 25-30imo
My bad, you could help and answer the question. $5 for the F-3000 modded -
Date: Mon, Sep 6 2010 21:53:13
Yeah apparently some people say they can't get the F-3000 in China anymore but :dunno: ><
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Date: Mon, Sep 6 2010 21:54:35
thanks
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Date: Tue, Sep 7 2010 19:48:33
2 purple m&m or 2 lavender CT caps? value
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Date: Tue, Sep 7 2010 20:14:36
i bought 2 ct pack for 16$ each, there were 2 lavender ct, so ~1,3$ for pen
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Date: Tue, Sep 7 2010 20:45:42
lavender i would say 2.50-3.00. Giving someone the price of a pen in a pack is absolutely useless if they only need one pen. If i buy 500,000 dr. grips i bet i can get each for 2.50 but 2.50$ is useless for trade value. Reasonable trade value is 2.50-3.00 with people not from japan. for japan maybe closer to 2.00
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Date: Tue, Sep 7 2010 20:56:38
24 pack of marvy markers? 1 single marvy marker? marvy marker mod?
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Date: Tue, Sep 7 2010 21:00:16
well japan is selling marvy marker mod for 15$+ single marvy trade value i say is round 4-5, mod i say 12-16 depending on color. 24 pack not sure. some colors are really poopi. Actual Marvy cost is around 2$ if you buy them singly in pack prolly lil less but again it's hard to find specially good colors.
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Date: Tue, Sep 7 2010 21:43:00
Yurchik can I buy 2 of them from you for 8$ @yurchik
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Date: Sun, Sep 12 2010 16:08:00
How much are white gripped Dr. Grips worth? Thanks!
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Date: Tue, Sep 14 2010 03:08:08
I think it varies. There are many different types of the white ones. I'd say 8$-16$ though.
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Date: Tue, Sep 14 2010 20:22:03
how much spoko box cost with 11 x each of 7 colors full pens (subs included)??
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Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 00:06:03
Spokos are like $0.60 each so 0.6 x about 80 = $48
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Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 00:09:19
in bulk they are 30-40 cents each from distributor.
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Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 00:26:23
I did hear that they are getting a bit harder to find though
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Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 00:53:57
how much is a white ballsign worth? not white capped ballsign (clear body) i mean like the white bodied ones? mine has a black cap/ ink/ backcap if the ink color even means anything since its easily changable?
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Date: Wed, Sep 22 2010 08:34:12
Hey guys, how would you price an RSVP MX (calculate modding time in as well) I'm looking to buy a few.
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Date: Wed, Sep 22 2010 09:09:26
I think $6 ought to do.
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Date: Wed, Sep 22 2010 09:10:17
A decent modded one around $6-$9 Some rarer types of the RSVP such as moonz and cubix will raise the value up
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Date: Wed, Sep 22 2010 09:53:41
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pendolsa-Penspinning-RSVP-MX-Hook-3-balck-/190383429116?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c53bc95fc so this is a good deal right?
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Date: Wed, Sep 22 2010 10:37:00
You may as well trade for a mx if you just want a few mods. there are plenty of traders on this forum that have mx for under 5 bucks and 1-3$ shipping
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Date: Sun, Sep 26 2010 11:22:14
Hi everybody. Recently I had a trade with one of UPSB traders. He was supposed to send me 8 Duraflashes and I had to send him 6 G3s and 1 yellow HyperJell. He sent first, because he had less positive feedbacks than me. So, he've sent me 8 fucking analogues (not original ones) of Duraflash. I understood that only after I'd sent my parcel, but he doesn't deny that he've actually done. So, what should we do? Should I give him negative feedback or not? Please, help us to cope with this situation.
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Date: Sun, Sep 26 2010 18:49:23
If he's lying, there is not much you can do to physically prove yourself innocent and him guilty. Trading involves a lot of trust and you are at partial fault because you realized this after you sent your package. However the majority of the problem should be placed on his shoulders, granted you are telling the truth. If he is lying, I would just have him send your stuff back and you send his stuff back. If he is uncooperative, just give him negative. Again I'm assuming you're telling the truth because there isn't a sample of his side of the story at the moment.
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Date: Sun, Oct 3 2010 19:31:08
how much cost 1 m&m pen?
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Date: Sun, Oct 3 2010 19:40:08
@yurchik depends on color and the condition, it's normally around 10
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Date: Fri, Oct 8 2010 05:05:44
how much cost golden dr grip? one guy wants 20 hgg for it xDDDD
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Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 03:53:06
up he wants 30$ 0_0
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Date: Sun, Oct 17 2010 01:51:14
What are the value of francheville pens, the store selling them is somewhat within my reach if I take some epic journey by train etc but I only want to if i can confirm how much they are worth http://www.theartshop.com.au/category939_1.htm
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Date: Sun, Oct 17 2010 04:12:56
only japanese people really want those. if you want to trade with JEB spinners you may have some value for them but other than that I wouldn't overload on them
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Date: Sun, Oct 24 2010 16:00:45
stevieboy is a scammer... I paypal him cash but never got the pens ! What a shame for upsb... It happened 4 months ago. I complained but nothing helped Ps : a few people buying stuff from him also complained about it ( crank gpc ;
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Date: Mon, Oct 25 2010 13:51:44
2 Metal tipped g3(clear) + 6 signo tips + 4 super tips vs 4 orange,4 green, 7 blue and 2 yellow spoko grips, that its ok?
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Date: Mon, Oct 25 2010 22:53:47
Yeah that sounds pretty fair to me
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Date: Tue, Oct 26 2010 13:08:08
Thanks ^^
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Date: Wed, Oct 27 2010 04:11:04
I'm kind of new to this but how much is a Comssa and Retractable Comssa worth? O.O
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Date: Wed, Oct 27 2010 05:04:10
comssa is anywhere from .60 cents to 2$ retractable comssa will be 4-10 depending on where you get it from
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Date: Wed, Oct 27 2010 05:38:18
O wow i thought a comssa would be around $4-6.=O Thanks
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Date: Wed, Oct 27 2010 06:13:11
Well it depends. If you were thinking about metal comssa (with tips and grips) then yeah it's gonna cost more.
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Date: Wed, Oct 27 2010 06:29:41
O, my bad i meant the metal comssa then. How much will that be worth?
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Date: Wed, Oct 27 2010 06:59:41
Check penwish.com for answers about prices. Pw sells at reasonable prices but you might be able to get better deals from traders
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Date: Thu, Oct 28 2010 00:21:43
is there a upsb blacklist for this forum? (if there is, sorry, cant seem to find)
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Date: Thu, Oct 28 2010 00:35:04
@lagbeast http://forum.upsb.info/itrader_main.php its at the top of the page dude, if you need to see if someone has bad feedback then just search their name, no need for a complete list of negative feedbacks
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Date: Thu, Oct 28 2010 01:07:31
@Wonder - thanks alot!
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Date: Mon, Nov 1 2010 10:48:19
how much the value of Dr.M&M , CT each and comssa cap each ? thx
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Date: Mon, Nov 1 2010 11:23:55
Dr. M&M = $25 up. CT - uhhhh.... $2? Comssa cap = $0.25
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Date: Mon, Nov 1 2010 11:36:45
Dr M&M would be more like $25-$40ish depending on the quality
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Date: Mon, Nov 1 2010 13:49:58
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Date: Tue, Nov 2 2010 00:50:20
which one are you talking about in that pic? Dr m&m's cost what krispy kreme said ($25-40) but not only is quality to be taken into consideration, but whether or not it uses real m&m caps too. If it uses ct caps, then the value is lowered. Also, ct's are worth more like $2.50. At least that's what penwish sells em for and he's a pretty reasonable guy although you can probably find em for less or if you just buy the caps, you can probably get better deals (granted that's what you want).
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Date: Tue, Nov 2 2010 10:03:11
the DR.M&M only the miffy and mellanie
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Date: Tue, Nov 2 2010 11:21:45
just order $25 worth of stuff to get my modded pens or should still continue to trade for them instead? from what i've seen is that each trade i do it cost about $3-8 shipping + cost of pens. I'm pretty sure i'd have to go through at least 2 trades to get all the stuff i want(partners are from other countries). What do you guys think?
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Date: Tue, Nov 2 2010 21:05:05
GigaByte wrote: the DR.M&M only the miffy and mellanie
ALL of them are M&M Body ;) -
Date: Wed, Nov 3 2010 01:13:26
The only problem I see with ordering is trying to get stuff that you can't get off penwish or jetpens or some other site. Their variety of pens is more limited than trading with various different peoples. However if you're new to modding, I would just go with ordering to start off. You can always start trading a bit later on and if you order, in your case, you'll get all the stuff you want. Less searching.
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Date: Sun, Nov 7 2010 16:08:35
is a rubbed M&M worth less than a normal one? if so. how would you price a SC rubbed M&M?
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Date: Sun, Nov 7 2010 21:54:03
If a regular one goes for around $10-14, I'd say a rubbed one is $8-12. Doesn't make too much of a difference imo but some people like the m&m's in good condition which means the logo and design are still there
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Date: Thu, Nov 25 2010 19:55:10
How much are 3000*F's and F-3000's worth?
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Date: Thu, Nov 25 2010 20:29:52
1 3000*f is about $7-9; thats the price that they sell them on penstorm...
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Date: Thu, Nov 25 2010 20:30:16
f3000 - 10$, 3000f - 40-50$
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Date: Thu, Nov 25 2010 21:00:41
They sell F-3000's on Penstorm, NOT 3000f's. There is a difference. I agree with Yurchik on the F-3000 price but I think the 3000f can be cheaper. Probably from $25-$40 imo
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Date: Fri, Nov 26 2010 17:06:36
Nachoaddict wrote: They sell F-3000's on Penstorm, NOT 3000f's. There is a difference. I agree with Yurchik on the F-3000 price but I think the 3000f can be cheaper. Probably from $25-$40 imo
ok im sorry i put "f" in the wrong place but you shouldnt be rate posting bad for that... anyway, how much are minwoo mods worth? what price should i sell it @ because no one seems to buy them... -
Date: Fri, Nov 26 2010 17:30:46
@Jan The price for only the parts ist about 8€ - 10€ (if you use French Dr. Grips, about 14€ with Japanese). But there are also cost for modding. So I would say 15€ for French version and 20€ for Japanese version. If it is really good moded then you can get 20€ for the French version. For the 3000*fs: Usually they are sold for 25€. greets MM
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Date: Fri, Nov 26 2010 18:45:19
Jan, there is a BIG difference between F-3000 and the 3000*f. Don't even answer if you have no idea what you are talking about. F-3000 is around $10, though yurchik prices the 3000*f pretty high. 3000*f's are more like 30 bucks. The prices will go up over time though. They are both out of production.
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Date: Sat, Nov 27 2010 11:23:00
price of sweetdrop?
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Date: Sat, Nov 27 2010 11:49:50
around 506803846038406830468034€ no joke, imo around 40-70~
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Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 13:36:29
hey guys, help me please i had trade with awesomeps. i gave 8 marvys comssa and he 2 gold tiped gr grips. he also wanted fluo yellow signo for fluo pink signo. i have said that i dont need his signo and gave him photo of my 8 marvys. but he have send signo too. its just normal signo, not fluo. he said he will give me negative because i havent send fluo yellow signo, but trade was 8 marvy comsas for 2 gold dr grips, he saw photo. i dont want any feedback from him i just want return him his hormal pink dx or send him money by paypal. he dont want this and want gave mi -1 or that i sale extra cheap my stuff. help me to find decision. i can only trade with him and return dx or send money for it. thanks
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Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 00:38:59
@yurchik I didn't understand oyu much, but usually the rules of a trade is that if you're already settled on a deal and 1 person has sent. you're not allowed to change any part of the trade. If it has, then you are obliged to give him negative feedback. If he gives you negative you can ask on of the mods to investigate and they will take the negative away from you :)
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Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 00:41:35
Okay if you what you're saying is completely true and he sent it even though you told him you didn't want it BUT you guys agreed on the comssa deal, I think you're safe in regards to negative. If something happens, just have a mod delete it for you. He seems unreasonable atm but I have a feeling there's something else in the story that you're leaving out? :dunno: I would have to hear his side too to make an honest decision. All in all based on what you've given just tell him what you told the community: "i dont want any feedback from him i just want return him his hormal pink dx or send him money by paypal." If he doesn't comply, then contact a mod. EDIT: yeah what Krispy is saying is a general rule for trading. If you told him you didn't want it AFTER he sent then there's a problem. But if you told him before he sent, then you should be fine.
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Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 00:49:03
@yurchik I see where youre going. Honestly, just send him back the pens and tell him that you dont want to trade anymore. I tried trading with ihm before; he takes too long to negociate with and fluo pink signo? picture? i dont think fluo pink signo =/= fluo yellow signo
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Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 05:36:43
thanks guy i told him that dont want signo before he send i asked send him my pens back and i will send all his pens back too @Colin as i know fluo pink is "baby pink" color, but i receive "pink" color from him ps from history
11/10/2010 15:43:55 Юрий -> mar you have send 1 green 1 brown? 11/10/2010 15:44:00 mar -> Юрий ya
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Date: Thu, Dec 9 2010 19:42:04
How muvh are jimnies worth?
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Date: Sat, Dec 18 2010 06:33:45
2.50 generally, you can look at Penwish's site and use that to determine values
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Date: Mon, Dec 20 2010 22:15:22
i need some advice okay so what happened was I had more feedback than a trader but felt nice so decided to send at the same time, I showed him the customs form with his address and such to prove I wasn't lying. Its been like 3 weeks and he hasn't received yet, apparently. What should I do ?
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Date: Wed, Dec 29 2010 18:07:10
@Apho It was possibly lost in the mail. Did you receive his pens? and did he show you any proof that he sent?
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Date: Wed, Dec 29 2010 20:52:25
nah i never received, and there wasnt proof he sent. he isnt really replying to my pms and stuff either lol edit: OH also, he's told me he hasn't gotten it yet, but i have a pic of the pen/package/customs form (if that even counts)
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Date: Wed, Dec 29 2010 21:13:02
both people not receiving is VERY rare. lost pens in mail are also very rare. Wrong addresses however are common. Depending on their feedback you can come to a conclusion whether the transaction was legit or not.
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Date: Wed, Dec 29 2010 21:24:13
Out of my 30 or so fb trades I've had it happen to me 3 times I think. I remember on that trading tut it said something like 1 in 500 trades ended up like this but for me it's been 1 in 10. Guess I'm just unlucky?
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Date: Thu, Dec 30 2010 00:10:44
Hmmm...you can try to wait out for another 2 weeks. This also nearly happened to me. Good thing the one delivering the mail recognized my name and the address, because the trader forgot to write my last name. (hooray for regular customer) idk if this is possible, but the other person can try asking the post office if they have receive a package from your address. He can present the address there.
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Date: Thu, Dec 30 2010 00:30:32
how much are single f-3000 blue cost?
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Date: Thu, Dec 30 2010 00:46:24
@Apho Who was the trader? What did you guys trade? What was the country that the trader resides in? I dont mean to brag or to pity you or anything, but out of ALL my trades, NONE of my packages were lost in the mail. Only ONE was sent back to me, VendettaBF 's package was sent back because I didnt put his apartment number. Even if it were lost, they would notify you. Nachoaddict sent me a package with inktubes and whatnot, and it got fucking ANNIHILATED. The packaging was ripped apart, and half of teh inktubes were gone. They taped it up, and sent it back to him, with an apology note. I would say you got scammed. But I dont have proof, so until I have proof, I cant make that deduction :p
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Date: Thu, Dec 30 2010 02:30:20
it was markborice, comssa (me) vs rsvp's, canada to us. it wouldve taken 3 weeks tops but its been since november he hasn't received yet either apparently. any ideas on what to do ? o.o
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Date: Thu, Dec 30 2010 02:47:40
Doesnt matter what state, it shouldnt take THREE fucking weeks to arrive in the states. I say PM him about leaving negative feedback. Give him a week, and if you dont get a response, leave negative response.
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Date: Thu, Dec 30 2010 03:22:47
how much are bellcolor packs and dr grips (neon, japanese ones, antibackterial ones, clear ones, etc)
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Date: Thu, Dec 30 2010 03:28:08
Colin wrote: @Apho Nachoaddict sent me a package with inktubes and whatnot, and it got fucking ANNIHILATED. The packaging was ripped apart, and half of teh inktubes were gone. They taped it up, and sent it back to him, with an apology note.
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Date: Thu, Dec 30 2010 03:44:24
SJ wrote: how much are bellcolor packs and dr grips (neon, japanese ones, antibackterial ones, clear ones, etc)
Bellcolour packs (10) are like, 15 I believe. the Japanese dr.grips run around 15 as well. Clear/neon ones should be higher, bu im just guesstamating here. Also, you didnt respond to my pm :( @poisoned wtf? :huh: -
Date: Thu, Dec 30 2010 03:54:52
Wtf Colin? Look at pw's prices. Jap dr grips are $10. Used to be a bit lower at $8. Antibacterial ones are hard to find now I think so a bit higher. But neons are lower since they are still semi-easy to find in the U.S. (at least for me) so I would say $6-8 for those. White and other color grip variants I'm not sure. Varies. And COG's are around 8-10
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Date: Thu, Dec 30 2010 03:59:47
@Nachoaddict But Penwish doesnt have the Lavender, Neon yellow or CLEAR (not sparkly) ones. Not the Neon pens from target, the French/Japanese Neon ones taht are like uber rare
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Date: Thu, Dec 30 2010 04:14:38
He used to have the clear sparkly ones. I'm sure he might have some left over. Just ask I guess. As for the other ones you're probably right. I'm not fmailiar with those
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Date: Thu, Dec 30 2010 06:40:42
i do have a few left over. The grip and tip is pretty much the same so less you are using it to write and want something in particular they are all kinda similar. On a mailing note. Some weird stuff CAN happen. I have had a package take 4 months yes...17 weeks to get from US to UK. and sometimes packages get sent through the package feeder improperly and get torn apart. if a package is not addressed correctly it can also take 3-5 months to be returned.
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Date: Thu, Dec 30 2010 20:18:25
Okay..so Im going contridct my post. I sent Gigabyte's and Whizz's package like in early november. Neither of them have recieved. And I may sound like a scammer in the next sentence, but when i looked for the customs forms (i ripped theirs up last night), i couldnt find it. I can personally vouch that I sent Gigabyte's because I took a picture of his. Whizz's..I cant vouch for because I cant find EITHER of their customs forms. But I KNOW I sent. Im not trying to pull a fast one here. Yurchik and I trade occasionally. He recieves within 2 weeks--he lives in Ukraine. Ive traded with CyShing, who lives in Malaysia, and recieves within a month or so, at most. It shouldnt take this long, and I trust them both. Whats the best solution for this?
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Date: Thu, Dec 30 2010 21:08:13
Colin wrote: Okay..so Im going contridct my post. I sent Gigabyte's and Whizz's package like in early november. Neither of them have recieved. And I may sound like a scammer in the next sentence, but when i looked for the customs forms (i ripped theirs up last night), i couldnt find it. I can personally vouch that I sent Gigabyte's because I took a picture of his. Whizz's..I cant vouch for because I cant find EITHER of their customs forms. But I KNOW I sent. Im not trying to pull a fast one here. Yurchik and I trade occasionally. He recieves within 2 weeks--he lives in Ukraine. Ive traded with CyShing, who lives in Malaysia, and recieves within a month or so, at most. It shouldnt take this long, and I trust them both. Whats the best solution for this?
@Colin, Just for the sake of argument I checked out feedback for both users. Whizz checks out, he has +10 from some big/trusted names. Gigabyte hasn't had any yet, but I'm not one to make assumptions. If he neither of them have received from the same send date I think it's safe to say your post office f-ed up. Next time either ship with delivery confirmation/tracking or risk have this happening again. If you can show proof of sending they can give you a neutral feedback. Recognition you sent, but not received. -
Date: Fri, Dec 31 2010 03:23:56
So only negatives affect your positive percentage?
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Date: Fri, Dec 31 2010 05:17:48
anything traceable that is sent international is automatically over 15$ to ship even if you like ship a few pens. so it's really based on trust unless you guys are willing to shell out big bucks.
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Date: Fri, Dec 31 2010 05:37:14
chrisPS wrote: Hmmm...you can try to wait out for another 2 weeks. This also nearly happened to me. Good thing the one delivering the mail recognized my name and the address, because the trader forgot to write my last name. (hooray for regular customer) idk if this is possible, but the other person can try asking the post office if they have receive a package from your address. He can present the address there.
[mention] chrisPS [/mention] LOLOLOL My first ever international trade and i stuff up :P -
Date: Fri, Dec 31 2010 05:45:27
Colin wrote: Bellcolour packs (10) are like, 15 I believe. the Japanese dr.grips run around 15 as well. Clear/neon ones should be higher, bu im just guesstamating here. Also, you didnt respond to my pm :(
@Colin what about a pack with 25 bellcolors? 15x2.5? lol that doesnt seem right and i think imma sell the dr grips for 15 if not less -
Date: Fri, Dec 31 2010 05:55:03
@SJ lolol you and your enormous bellcolor packs. id say 30 at most. im just throwing out on what seems fair, to tell you the truth.
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Date: Fri, Dec 31 2010 07:09:40
bellcolors seems to have lost a lot of popularity recently so not sure how much they are worth
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Date: Fri, Dec 31 2010 21:07:54
How much are old black supertips and old white supertips worth? Will the price go up as they're out of production?
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Date: Fri, Dec 31 2010 21:39:29
@JLSpinY i dont think old supertips are going to be raising in price at all because there's no demand for them, the bodies are practically a comssa body, slightly longer maybe, but not big demand now that pw has white comssas.
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Date: Sun, Jan 9 2011 23:50:18
[QUOTE=iMatt;48145]@iMatt So I found a recipet saying I sent a package to russia. I havent traded with anyone else from Russia besides Whizz and Yurchik. I dont do business internationally on eBay either. But I am SURE that I sent his package at the same time. I sent it the same as Gigabyte's, so Im pretty sure its his. He PM'dme recently saying that he wants a refund..well, he put it in a meme. COLIN Y U NO SEND REFUND or something along those lines. I honestly dont think its fair to give him a refund. Cause look, if I was going to scam him, Id go all out. Vice versa, I wouldnt know. He's been on v3 for a good amount of time as well. EDIT:
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Date: Sun, Jan 16 2011 17:11:16
SO: from Yurchik, I asked for: 1 clear dr. grip grip, jap style 2 signo DX black 2 commssa 2 clear G3 2 HGG black and white 2 ballpoint airfit. He wants: http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Sansa-Clip-Player-Black/dp/B002MAPT7U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1295112187&sr=8-1 My bullshit senses are tingling
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Date: Sun, Jan 16 2011 17:25:08
dr. grip grip 3 2 signo 5 2 commssa 3 2 clear g3 5 2 hgg 5 2 airfit 8 so $29 at the most. your getting fucked over
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Date: Sun, Jan 16 2011 18:49:13
@chili pepper What you want is around 25 dollars, yeah you know, high prices u.u Pd:i didn't read your message Kirby sorry :S
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Date: Tue, Jan 18 2011 01:57:52
I suspected as much. How much are supertips packs worth, and how much would the newest supertips washables ones be worth? their barrels seem thicker but the caps can't be used for STEK bodies
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Date: Sat, Jan 22 2011 17:42:43
do not trade with asian-space-mang, he is trying to scam and has been banned.
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Date: Sat, Jan 22 2011 18:35:57
@Zombo how long is he banned for thats not cool who'd he scam.
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Date: Sat, Jan 22 2011 18:47:47
@Zombo he bought off me twice already, what was he doing to scam?
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Date: Sat, Jan 22 2011 22:35:18
he's permanently banned he made several fake accounts and was making fake feedback on them to try to build up reputation on these fake accounts
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Date: Sat, Jan 22 2011 22:37:44
oooohhhh he is ninja
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Date: Tue, Jan 25 2011 22:45:32
wtf? when and how? i'll do my best to correct it if you feel i've done so.
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Date: Tue, Jan 25 2011 23:09:22
Fresh wrote: So be careful when trading with him!
Woah there! I DID NOT POST THIS! I went on a public net connection and it seems some stuff came up that I DID NOT POST! Am not on a more secure connection nearby. I DID NOT POST ANYTHING in the past several days or so. I have only been on Facebook chat but it seems every forum I've been on has all these crazy posts... Bumps are only allowed after 72 hours: Someone definately hacked my connection! Ignore all post from the past hour (or maybe a bit more) ago! RICERCAR IS DEFINATLY not A SCAMMER! -
Date: Thu, Jan 27 2011 15:55:24
how much is the trade value for - Super Pirat - Airfit ballpoint - Clear Tornado Grip Pen aka Platinum Glamour - Plastic G3 Clear
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Date: Sat, Jan 29 2011 19:34:34
Guys. this is no reason to argue this. I will just resend to KK directrly that way there is no more confusion or misunderstanding. I trust both Matt and KK greatly and i'm sure that's it's just a simple misunderstanding. Try pming on upsb and email to [email][email protected][/email]. We'll get this resolved. Spamming each other here does no good.
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Date: Sat, Jan 29 2011 19:38:44
and layoff matt. It's probably an error on my part instead of his
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Date: Sun, Feb 6 2011 18:43:33
4 RSVPs (color) and 2 HGGs for how many plastic G3s?
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Date: Sun, Feb 6 2011 18:58:43
imo, 3~4, 2 for the 2 hgg's and 1 for 2 rsvp
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Date: Mon, Feb 7 2011 20:47:42
I haven't gotten my package from Mr.Tornado yet. It's been around 2 months. He says he will send. Never got the package. I think several other traders have not gotten his package too. I know for sure darkrose and chrisps haven't. He negotiates with pms and stuff, but ends up never sending. Waste of time... especially if you buy something for him. I guess i should give negative feedback?
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Date: Tue, Feb 8 2011 01:54:33
miyat wrote: I haven't gotten my package from Mr.Tornado yet. It's been around 2 months. He says he will send. Never got the package. I think several other traders have not gotten his package too. I know for sure darkrose and chrisps haven't. He negotiates with pms and stuff, but ends up never sending. Waste of time... especially if you buy something for him. I guess i should give negative feedback?
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Date: Tue, Feb 8 2011 02:08:28
@Colin China
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Date: Tue, Feb 8 2011 02:44:25
@miyat Yeah, I dont think its gonna take 2 months. Shipping from China/HK takes a while to tell you the truth. 2 months is kinda crazy though; 1.25 months should be the extreme
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Date: Tue, Feb 8 2011 02:58:50
It took 5 days for my pack to get to Louis TWs place.
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Date: Wed, Feb 9 2011 15:59:00
How much trade value for a Doublecapped Reynolds Neon 094?
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Date: Wed, Feb 9 2011 17:16:11
Depends on the color but imo yellow dc is 8-10€ here, maybe you will have to pay more in international trades...
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Date: Thu, Feb 10 2011 00:26:39
how much are super pirat with white caps instead of clear caps worth?
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Date: Thu, Feb 10 2011 00:37:58
@yurchik, i think he's the only one who cares about the cap color so i dont think price will differ
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Date: Thu, Feb 10 2011 00:46:30
Wonder wrote: @yurchik, i think he's the only one who cares about the cap color so i dont think price will differ
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Date: Thu, Feb 10 2011 00:52:19
Anyone know how much a japanese penz gear is worth?
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Date: Thu, Feb 10 2011 14:57:24
Jan wrote: i think it will since the white capped ones are much more rare...
i dont think you understand though, even though they're rare it doesnt mean they're worth something. Nobody uses super pirat caps, and even if they do they're hidden so it wont make any difference, idk what yurchik wants it for though -
Date: Sat, Feb 12 2011 04:01:34
does anyone know how much an old supertip body is worth now?
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Date: Sat, Feb 12 2011 05:57:08
Probably 20 to 50 cents. Anything over a dollar I feel you're getting ripped off. They aren't very rare though and the new ones serve almost the same functionally wise. They're just a bit thicker. So some caps won't fit on.
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Date: Thu, Feb 17 2011 15:44:57
What are the trade values of these Color Express packs? :) http://www.ehandlowy.pl/images/7001Z30C%20Flamastry%20Color%20Express.jpg http://www.ehandlowy.pl/images/7001Z12C%20Flamastry%20Color%20Express.jpg
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Date: Sat, Feb 19 2011 04:36:41
how much is a modded Any-X (using profiles) worth?? everything hot glued and nice grips?
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Date: Sat, Feb 19 2011 04:57:34
Cloud wrote: how much is a modded Any-X (using profiles) worth?? everything hot glued and nice grips?
the any-x is not a popular mod, in the 2 years i've been on upsb i've only seen 1 any-x in show off your pens :/ -
Date: Sat, Feb 19 2011 05:13:53
@Krispy Kreme so ppl wouldnt wanna buy? cuz it looks pretty nice what about a writable (gel ink) Buster CYL (rubbed body too!) (black n yellow,yellow penwish ring, black profile grip, jell tips)?
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Date: Sat, Feb 19 2011 21:51:53
So I'm now aware of the rarity of the M&M's what would my Orange and Green (original bonkura colors, dark green not light green) Bonkura KT go for these days? I'm considering retiring it just for the sole purpose of my collection.
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Date: Sat, Feb 19 2011 22:01:29
@sangara im pretty sure bonkura kt is worth 20-25 so... maybe 30-40? id say just keep it... can u answer my previous question? like how much would you pay for a writable buster (details in last post)
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Date: Tue, Feb 22 2011 04:08:36
whats the trade value of old namaes roughly? Thanks PrinceXD
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Date: Tue, Feb 22 2011 04:17:09
PrinceXD;67059]whats the trade value of old namaes roughly? Thanks PrinceXD[/QUOTE] Like a dollar each I would pay ~17-19 for that. Just imo. [QUOTE=sangara wrote: So I'm now aware of the rarity of the M&M's what would my Orange and Green (original bonkura colors, dark green not light green) Bonkura KT go for these days? I'm considering retiring it just for the sole purpose of my collection.
what about a writable (gel ink) Buster CYL (rubbed body too!) (black n yellow,yellow penwish ring, black profile grip, jell tips)?
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Date: Tue, Feb 22 2011 04:18:31
@Colin 17-19 for the KT?
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Date: Tue, Feb 22 2011 04:19:32
sangara wrote: @Colin 17-19 for the KT?
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Date: Tue, Feb 22 2011 04:20:09
For the kt I'd say $25-35 depending on if the caps are M&M and if the logo is still there and the mod's condition
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Date: Tue, Feb 22 2011 04:23:16
The mod's pretty much perfect, original caps, but the logo is spun off, wait you can see the bottom of Melanie's head :D I've pretty much retired it, putting it in my box along with a few other extremely rare pens.
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Date: Tue, Feb 22 2011 04:29:03
sangara wrote: The mod's pretty much perfect, original caps, but the logo is spun off, wait you can see the bottom of Melanie's head :D I've pretty much retired it, putting it in my box along with a few other extremely rare pens.
Oh, probably like 27~ish then :( people want the logo, like no joke <_< -
Date: Tue, Feb 22 2011 04:30:17
Why the hell do people want the logo? Even Bonkura took it off. :/ Oh well like I said, off to a box to never be touched again.
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Date: Tue, Feb 22 2011 04:53:31
alright, so i sold a kuzu and a namae to 2 guys on fpsb. I had less feedback, so i had to send first (... -.-). I took a picture of the pens + envelops and sent first. Its been a month and they've apparently not received yet. any idea what to do, because if they dont 'receive' (assuming they aren't scamming me.), they aren't going to send.
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Date: Tue, Feb 22 2011 05:04:58
Apho wrote: alright, so i sold a kuzu and a namae to 2 guys on fpsb. I had less feedback, so i had to send first (... -.-). I took a picture of the pens + envelops and sent first. Its been a month and they've apparently not received yet. any idea what to do, because if they dont 'receive' (assuming they aren't scamming me.), they aren't going to send.
give it some more time. euro countries are usually a bitch to send to, they take long and theyre expensive. AND THERES NOT A SEXUAL PUN INTENDED. GOD FUCK. -
Date: Tue, Feb 22 2011 23:51:56
nono but like, my friend sent AFTER them (according to when they said they sent) and i've already received from him, plus he's sending pens while they're sending paper. If that really matters. D: should i just cut my losses and not do anything -.-
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Date: Wed, Feb 23 2011 00:06:57
@Apho it took like 3 months for a package of mine to be sent to italy, only to be sent back because they couldnt find the address or something, so it takes a long ass time
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Date: Wed, Feb 23 2011 10:44:30
some countries take notoriously long. Czech, italy, romania . I have had one package take 5 months to get to Uk. it's completely random. After 2 months probably 90% chance something is wrong but not always
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Date: Fri, Feb 25 2011 21:38:55
Sooo, VN and I had a trade. me Sweet Drop <-> Pumas him Now dont get me wrong, Im not calling him a scammer, Ive traded with him like 3 times, all quick and fast; both in v3 and v4. He's an awesome dude, he's given me PDS comssas as freebies. He's sent me PM's that's he's busy, and I feel thats perfectly fine. At least he told me beforehand. Ive given him some time, its been two weeks. Ive tried to contact him, but his inbox has been full. I posted a visitor message. What should I do? And if its not too much, how would i be able to get a 'last logged in' check? Again, I am NOT accusing him of a scammer.
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Date: Sat, Feb 26 2011 00:26:18
@Colin I think there's a thing on everyone's profile somewhere under the profile pic that says "Last activity".
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Date: Sat, Feb 26 2011 05:35:17
Nachoaddict wrote: @Colin I think there's a thing on everyone's profile somewhere under the profile pic that says "Last activity".
I kinda figured it out after I posted that :p Thanks though bro. He said he'll send back the sweet drop with extra money for making me wait. Its fine..I guess :\ -
Date: Sat, Mar 5 2011 19:03:31
I'm wondering how much bellcolors are worth individually/package prices atm. I've heard/seen prices from 33 cents to 2.50 dollars each.
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Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 01:57:54
how much is a hi tec c worth?
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Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 03:46:37
@TheAafg Hitec-c's are worth $2, but I believe penwish has them for $2.75.
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Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 14:43:25
How much are penz gear?
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Date: Thu, Mar 10 2011 23:22:35
whats the approximate value of a key3 ?
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Date: Sat, Mar 12 2011 16:32:38
Value of 2 Buster CYL tips and 1 complete CYL grip
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Date: Sat, Mar 12 2011 16:35:50
2 Airfit tips plus 1 grip = $5-7 imo. Tips at $2-3 each and grip at $1
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Date: Wed, Mar 16 2011 00:34:52
I give 2 buster i get m&m good right?
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Date: Wed, Mar 16 2011 02:09:52
Cloud wrote: I give 2 buster i get m&m good right?
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Date: Wed, Mar 16 2011 02:13:19
If it's a single M&M it's probably not worth it.
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Date: Wed, Mar 16 2011 03:42:10
Jan;71157]How much are penz gear?[/QUOTE] like 10 bucks? I sold mine for 15 shipped [QUOTE=Apho wrote: whats the approximate value of a key3 ?
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Date: Thu, Mar 17 2011 22:00:17
2 ks online sporty for 1 BIC clic stic 3 supertips 2 RSVP color (pink, blue) 3 RSVP normal (red, black, pink)
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Date: Thu, Mar 17 2011 22:04:28
about right ks sporty is somewhat rare and expensive. it's prolly about right
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Date: Thu, Mar 17 2011 22:09:51
each tip cost around 3'5~4€, so, i think that trade is fair ;D
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Date: Thu, Mar 17 2011 23:18:30
Riley;75504]2 ks online sporty for 1 BIC clic stic 3 supertips 2 RSVP color (pink, blue) 3 RSVP normal (red, black, pink)[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=PenwisH wrote: about right ks sporty is somewhat rare and expensive. it's prolly about right
Whao whoa whoaaa. oure kidding right? That's absolutely outrageous. take out the rsvp colours and that sounds like a fair deal -
Date: Sun, Mar 20 2011 10:46:49
May i know the price of skyblue pink / orange limegreen or dark green M&M kt? Also , mesi g3, kuzu g3 ,key3 g3, 3000*F. Thanks in advance
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Date: Sun, Mar 20 2011 21:29:15
Dr. M&M's (with M&M caps) $25-35 Mesi G3 $15-25 Kuzu G3 $25-35 Key3 G3 $15-20 3000F $15-25 These are just imo prices. @JoshPS
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Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 02:58:42
Is it too much if the m&m kt is 40 usd and 3000f is 30 usd? xD
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Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 03:14:35
@JoshPS Slightly overpriced... imo not worth it unless u desperate for them PrinceXD
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Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 03:21:37
Not worth for which pen? So overall,nachoaddict's price is about right?
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Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 03:29:58
40 for M&M KT is quite high unless it's in "perfect" condition and uses M&M caps or it was used by Minwoo in his first solo or something like that. Usually they max at $35. I don't think you'll get a lot of business with $30 for a 3000f as they aren't in high demand right now. Even $25 doesn't draw too much attention.
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Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 04:13:48
Do you guys think a RSVP grip for 25 cents is a decent deal?
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Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 04:16:07
I guess? $0.50 for the body, $0.25 for the grip, $0.25 for the cap? idk. Anything under 50 cents is alright. Depends on color too. that shit navy blue is used a lot less than black or yellow or skyblue.
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Date: Wed, Mar 23 2011 23:31:18
aight, so i just traded with this Glaschtout guy http://forum.upsb.info/member.php?u=3668, and we sent at the same time (i had higher feedback, but he insisted FML!!!!). I've been asking for proof that he has sent, but he hasnt replied to anything. Is he a scammer? :(
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Date: Wed, Mar 23 2011 23:37:24
I wouldnt even trade with him if he insisted that way anyways.. how long has this been? maybe hes just out of internet.. you might do actually wanna wait for 2-3 weeks but still... be prepared >__>|| PrinceXD
Morpheus wrote: aight, so i just traded with this Glaschtout guy http://forum.upsb.info/member.php?u=3668, and we sent at the same time (i had higher feedback, but he insisted FML!!!!). I've been asking for proof that he has sent, but he hasnt replied to anything. Is he a scammer? :(
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Date: Thu, Mar 24 2011 03:05:29
@Morpheus well i was gonna trade with him 2 busters for a dr m&m but he insisted that we send at same time... he had +64 feedback on fpsb but has no proof connecting the upsb account to fpsb i asked him to leave a personal message on his fpsb but he said he wasnt on v3 so he couldnt do it so i ended up calling off the trade since he insisted to send at the same time he would not send before even though he has less feedback here soooo... i would guess hesa scamma -- what would you pay for a rsvp kt bodyhttp://www.upsb.info/wiki/index.php?title=Simple_Clear_body_Dr._KT filled with a glow in the dark gel (some polymer substance i made)
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Date: Thu, Mar 24 2011 03:13:02
damnn...my first international trade failed..fml
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Date: Thu, Mar 24 2011 03:19:04
@Morpheus You could trade with me ;) ------ I would like to know how long does it usually take a package to reach Australia from Canada. I have received miyat's package within 2 weeks of the SecretSanta deadline. So that was what Ive been expecting.. PrinceXD PrinceXD
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Date: Tue, Mar 29 2011 20:59:23
Cloud wrote: @Morpheus well i was gonna trade with him 2 busters for a dr m&m but he insisted that we send at same time... he had +64 feedback on fpsb but has no proof connecting the upsb account to fpsb i asked him to leave a personal message on his fpsb but he said he wasnt on v3 so he couldnt do it so i ended up calling off the trade since he insisted to send at the same time he would not send before even though he has less feedback here soooo... i would guess hesa scamma
yeah, I just traded with him :facepalm: its been 2 and a half weeks. scammer. period. -
Date: Tue, Mar 29 2011 23:01:57
Morpheus, you can trade/buy with/from me ;) Lesson learned: People who insist in you sending first even if you have high feedback is most likely a scammer, especially in trading. Buying, though, is another story.
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Date: Wed, Mar 30 2011 01:09:38
whats the price of an s777 mx, with real caps ?
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Date: Wed, Mar 30 2011 01:20:19
akitaka wrote: yeah, I just traded with him :facepalm: its been 2 and a half weeks. scammer. period.
:( I sent to him too, he insisted on sending at same time. I was skeptical so i found Gash w.e's account on the older fpsb, had lots of feedback, but was old. So i asked him for picture of the f-3000 + 3000*f with the date he was trading me. He sent right away... I know darkrose is also trading with him, and i think they sent at same time too, most likely he is a scammer, who ripped off a lot of people... What is he supposed to send you guys? @akitaka I know he was supposed to send darkrose mm's T.T i really hope he's not a scammer.... qq T-T D; edit: o just realized im replying a bit late. anyone received from him yet? -
Date: Wed, Mar 30 2011 01:25:30
Cmon guys. Never send first if you have higher feedback. Unless it's a really "really" well known person.
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Date: Wed, Mar 30 2011 01:25:47
miyat wrote: :( I sent to him too, he insisted on sending at same time. I was skeptical so i found Gash w.e's account on the older fpsb, had lots of feedback, but was old. So i asked him for picture of the f-3000 + 3000*f with the date he was trading me. He sent right away... I know darkrose is also trading with him, and i think they sent at same time too, most likely he is a scammer, who ripped off a lot of people... What is he supposed to send you guys? @akitaka I know he was supposed to send darkrose mm's T.T i really hope he's not a scammer.... qq T-T D; edit: o just realized im replying a bit late. anyone received from him yet?
He was supposed to send me Dr. M&M's -
Date: Wed, Mar 30 2011 01:33:27
Nachoaddict wrote: Cmon guys. Never send first if you have higher feedback. Unless it's a really "really" well known person.
When I got scammed, my only problem was it was on another board, where I had some feedback, but not more -
Date: Wed, Mar 30 2011 01:39:27
Apho wrote: whats the price of an s777 mx, with real caps ?
I've seen it somewhere for ~$15. -
Date: Wed, Mar 30 2011 02:07:22
miyat wrote: :( I sent to him too, he insisted on sending at same time. I was skeptical so i found Gash w.e's account on the older fpsb, had lots of feedback, but was old. So i asked him for picture of the f-3000 + 3000*f with the date he was trading me. He sent right away... I know darkrose is also trading with him, and i think they sent at same time too, most likely he is a scammer, who ripped off a lot of people... What is he supposed to send you guys? @akitaka I know he was supposed to send darkrose mm's T.T i really hope he's not a scammer.... qq T-T D; edit: o just realized im replying a bit late. anyone received from him yet?
he was supposed to send me 2 Dr. M&Ms -
Date: Wed, Mar 30 2011 02:22:49
For 2 busters? Wow that's just a bit "too" good to be true imo :/
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Date: Wed, Mar 30 2011 02:27:02
Nachoaddict wrote: For 2 busters? Wow that's just a bit "too" good to be true imo :/
no, i was trading him stuff like a pen case, seven mod, and k7 mod -
Date: Wed, Mar 30 2011 02:33:28
And you sent all that stuff? Damn that sucks bro :/
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Date: Wed, Mar 30 2011 03:53:09
i no... :'( o well, i guess ill just have to be more careful in the future :/
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Date: Wed, Mar 30 2011 04:46:49
Okay guys..here's the thing.. [SIZE="3"]When you ask for a picture, and theyre like "Oh, I already sent" , that's bullshit. People LAGG it when they ship, trust me.[/SIZE] [color=grey]I do that.[/color] But that's besides the point. Failing to provide a picture is like failing to provide proof of license when asked for. Honestly, if the other person cannot provide a picture, call the deal off. 'Sending at the same time'almostNEVER works out. I have been fucked over like that, twice, and almost fucked once. There is absolutely NO reason why people with different feedbacks should send at the same time, unless theyre like related by like chromosomes or some shit. If its a really good deal, and youre skeptical about it, bullshit it. Say you already sent, but dont send. Wait for his/her package, THEN send. I know this isn't completely right (per se) , but Id rather be safe then sorry. Ive done this, and saved my ass twice. You guys remember Zarawurdo! right? I did this. Classified as a scammer 3 days later. That's my two pence.
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Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 21:02:46
how much does a brand new pack of miffy and melanie go for these days?
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Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 22:15:38
~$100+ @NapkinVII
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Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 22:21:35
Which country can neon 094 be found (those colorful waterfall mod caps)? Are they discontinued or what, why are they so hard to be found? What is a reasonable price for just a neon 094 DC?
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Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 22:37:51
they're french markers, so france ? Pretty sure they're rare because only 1 of each colors comes in the gargantuan packs. so you'd need to buy two packs, just for 1 pair of each color
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Date: Sun, Apr 3 2011 03:01:35
@NapkinVII Jan has the price kinda off. There are 12 in a pack and street value the best you will get for a single marker is about $10. That's $120 already but people usually value when you have the packaging and everything is in good condition and you have the entire set so I would say anywhere from $120 - 140ish
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Date: Sun, Apr 3 2011 03:35:57
i ve sold a mint condition pack for 200$ someone bought it out =p but i ve sold one for as little as 130 as well
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Date: Mon, Apr 4 2011 01:50:47
hey guys, need some help here how much is a japanese emboss marker cost? I need the big cap for AjisAi SC.. so 1 purple jap emboss. ive been offered 12bucks for one and im just double checking before i say anything else to this guy... Thanks =D PrinceXD
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Date: Mon, Apr 4 2011 02:03:42
An emboss is usually 3-4 dollars. No more. 12 bucks is waaay too much, even for an emboss mod. Even if you are talking about the Jap ones, they are about $6. The Jap ones have exactly same caps as Euro ones thoguh~ BTW, I heard that Ajisai SC is not so good, it has no momentum and un-balanced. It costs much too.
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Date: Mon, Apr 4 2011 07:38:19
DC commsa(1) Airfit ballpoint TIPS only(the heavy one)(2) hyperjell(2) 4airfit grips 2 dr. grip grip 4 sailors?? to 20 RSVP. is this fair?
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Date: Mon, Apr 4 2011 07:56:58
Ummm, seems kinda fair. I'm not sure about the Hyperjells though.
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Date: Tue, Apr 5 2011 04:42:46
emboss are 3-4$ the fabrico ones but the japanese ones are only 2-3$ but are harder to find and ajisai SC is amazing
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Date: Wed, Apr 6 2011 02:01:48
Where to find Sailor Innovation Gel pens (those SG pens with authentic purple grips)? How much are they?
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Date: Thu, Apr 7 2011 02:15:46
AFAIK, you can only find Sailors at Daiso.
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Date: Mon, Apr 11 2011 16:29:04
if i buy stuff from man who have less wl (have 0) than me, can i pay for shipping first and then for pens when i receive them? i am right with rules of upsb?
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Date: Tue, Apr 12 2011 05:58:00
There isn't really a UPSB rule for that. It's at your own risk if you want to pay the guy first but what you said seems completely acceptable to me on "personal" terms. If I were you I wouldn't even pay him til I got the stuff but your way sounds alright too.
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Date: Tue, Apr 12 2011 06:09:23
What is a reasonable and fair price for lavender Color Twin markers (those light purple ones found in 36 color packs)???
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Date: Tue, Apr 12 2011 20:54:09
L-in wrote: What is a reasonable and fair price for lavender Color Twin markers (those light purple ones found in 36 color packs)???
IMHO, I would never pay over 5 dollars each for ANY colour of CT's. -
Date: Sun, Apr 17 2011 17:33:35
There have been ton of pms and emails about SCAMS. If you are unsure about a trade PM a mod or someone like colin and ask about it. Sucks the amount of scams going on and best to be safe. we are all here to help.
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Date: Tue, Apr 19 2011 16:56:00
im tired of this business with *hidden name for now*. its been well over 5 weeks, and I still havent gotten my package from Canada. is this normal? should I wait longer? I asked for his/her name and address but he/she seems to be avoiding it. name reveal? more PM beforehand? I dont know. Also, if the mail DOES happen to be lost, whats the standard procedure right now? I know with Kam's trade (wow.. long time ago), he said its only fair for both parties to pay half. Does that mean I can request another package to be sent, but only with half of the original agreed contents? PrinceXD p.s. the business i meant is just a normal trade, not the "business" business. sorry for confusion :P
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Date: Tue, Apr 19 2011 17:03:25
well if it's a business then they should have shipping conditions so it really depends on what you purchased. International trades can be a tossup. It can take one week or 20 weeks. I had one package take 5 months to get to UK so it's really random. Lost packages in reality are rare but do happen. Problem with both parties paying half is that there is a level of trust that's needed. There is no real correct situation and you need to talk to your trader about it
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Date: Tue, Apr 19 2011 17:11:36
But what are the chances that a package from Canada to Australia would take over 5 weeks? If actions are taken, and at the end of the day I did end up receiving the original package, then I'm willing to pay for the half package too. And Ive been talking to him/her already, but I just dont feel like he/she's trying to help (compared to his/her activeness in UPSB). PrinceXD
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Date: Tue, Apr 19 2011 17:30:38
always possible. it has happened before. you will have to work it out since it's possible to take long
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Date: Wed, Apr 20 2011 02:31:52
How much would a M&M Body w/without a backcap be?
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Date: Wed, Apr 20 2011 05:45:30
Something like $8 I think. If it has the logo then maybe $10. This is without the back cap AND it has the big cap. With, I think it's $10-14. 14 if it's like mint condition with the logo in perfect state. It could go even higher lol. But highest I would go is $16 for one M&M
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Date: Thu, Apr 21 2011 06:57:53
I already traded, but i was just wondering whether a Moonz Toro MX + a plastic G3+ a purple RSVP for two brand new Dr. Grip tips is worth it. What is the value on Moonz MXes? Even if it is a bad deal for me, idc, because i found the Moonz, the G2 grip, and the g3 was half dead XD
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Date: Thu, Apr 21 2011 07:54:29
PREDATORNET wrote: I already traded, but i was just wondering whether a Moonz Toro MX + a plastic G3+ a purple RSVP for two brand new Dr. Grip tips is worth it. What is the value on Moonz MXes? Even if it is a bad deal for me, idc, because i found the Moonz, the G2 grip, and the g3 was half dead XD
If you had me choose, i would rather be on the receiving end of the dr.grips =], so i dont think it's a bad deal for you. -
Date: Thu, Apr 21 2011 08:15:53
PrinceXD;86431]im tired of this business with *hidden name for now*. its been well over 5 weeks, and I still havent gotten my package from Canada. is this normal? should I wait longer? I asked for his/her name and address but he/she seems to be avoiding it. name reveal? more PM beforehand? I dont know. Also, if the mail DOES happen to be lost, whats the standard procedure right now? I know with Kam's trade (wow.. long time ago), he said its only fair for both parties to pay half. Does that mean I can request another package to be sent, but only with half of the original agreed contents? PrinceXD p.s. the business i meant is just a normal trade, not the "business" business. sorry for confusion :P[/QUOTE] @exclusive oh woops. [QUOTE=Colin wrote: IMHO, I would never pay over 5 dollars each for ANY colour of CT's.
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Date: Thu, Apr 21 2011 08:55:17
he must be VERY DESPERATE to get those caps @_@ or maybe he just wanna clear out his Paypal funds in his account.. Who knows? LOL PrinceXD
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Date: Thu, Apr 21 2011 10:28:27
What's the value for those neon reynold caps for waterfalls? Green and pink to be specific
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Date: Fri, Apr 22 2011 03:43:03
Still no information, I guess its time. For those who are planning to trade with @exclusive) Scammer or not? you decide its just stupid to ruin trust for merely 14 bucks. is that seriously how much it cost only? fucking kid. if i were the scammer at least ill do something like M&Ms and pencases dumb fuck. Im sick of waiting already, and with the poor service.. i hope u guys dont experience it as well. PrinceXD ------ [B]UPDATE (23/04/2011):[/B] ------ Revealing his name wasnt enough. Giving him the negative feedback is what made him took action (like wtf really?) He FINALLY sent me a PM telling me to remove that negative feedback i said "hell no, i remove it = u vanish again. I want action bitch" ill update u guys here.. i want you guys to know so u dont fall victim and besides.. im still not happy with the service imho. when everything is solved successfully, ill remove these comments and possibly do a small comment here too. PrinceXD ------ [B]UPDATE 2 (03/05/2011):[/B] ------ He stopped communicating with me AGAIN I tried to get him back into talking, but he just replied with "need to get more" wtf? 1 line response again? too fucking lazy to actually provide a proper response when u're in deep shit? yet so active in UPSB and continuing to do trades? (i see u're still bumping ur thread) I dont fucking care now, u get ur negative and u deserve it. further negotiation with dickheads like u just waste my daytime. PrinceXD
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Date: Sat, Apr 23 2011 05:31:00
Like I said, Long negociation=shit trade. No communication=shit trade
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Date: Sat, Apr 23 2011 18:58:54
So I'm doing a trade with someone from Ukraine. He gives me his address, and I look up how Ukraine addresses look. His looks a bit different than what the Internet tells me, so I PM him about it. He says the one he gave is correct. Sorry, if this seems like a pointless question, but I don't want my package to get lost or anything. Should I just go with the address he gave? Or change his address to the format the internet gives? Thanks.
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Date: Sat, Apr 23 2011 18:59:49
whatever he says.
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Date: Sat, Apr 23 2011 22:10:21
@PrinceXD wait he already had a negative in his feedback before u... so then why did u send first?
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Date: Sat, Apr 23 2011 22:24:18
Noodles wrote: What's the value for those neon reynold caps for waterfalls? Green and pink to be specific
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Date: Tue, Apr 26 2011 02:21:54
will be jacked up soon since it's oop
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Date: Tue, Apr 26 2011 02:32:10
for people wondering what oop is, its Out of Production.
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Date: Tue, Apr 26 2011 04:33:02
can anyone tell me how much an NX MMT is worth? The cheapest I've seen is $9.
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Date: Tue, Apr 26 2011 05:21:33
Hey guys just wondering how much do you think is "sane" to buy 3 M&M pens say...if I bought only the bodies and the backplugs? How about if I got another one that had part of the logo rubbed off? How about DC ones in good condition? Thanks, -Nacho
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Date: Tue, Apr 26 2011 05:29:27
@Nachoaddict IMO, 8 bucks each ~5? 12-15 max so yeah imo UPSB is goin insane
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Date: Tue, Apr 26 2011 05:31:13
Alright just checkin' to make sure I'm not the only one who thinks this is outrageous.
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Date: Tue, Apr 26 2011 06:04:34
Nachoaddict wrote: Alright just checkin' to make sure I'm not the only one who thinks this is outrageous.
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Date: Thu, Apr 28 2011 00:37:37
Is $9-$10 a lot for one M&M with double caps? Or for one M&M with only one cap? Thanks!
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Date: Thu, Apr 28 2011 01:04:19
For double caps that's a great deal. For one cap it's still pretty good. Usually I see them from $10-16 for single caps with the exception of the recent auctions.
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Date: Thu, Apr 28 2011 01:18:25
Lmao
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Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 07:07:18
um sumone is trading skyblue and pink with corresponding sailor grips these are M&M caps for 4 old namaes, is this fair, and also how do i know the caps arent fake
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Date: Sat, Apr 30 2011 10:02:55
Discussion between CT and M&M caps happened in HKPSA before.. lemme find the link again Meanwhile, u can only tell the difference between both if u shine the caps under light source. M&M caps are slightly clearer than CT caps.. Also, M&M cap's color are slightly more sharper too.. Or you can compare it to the backplug (if comes with) http://upload.trend.hk/images/1290352401.JPG Top row is M&M caps (except purple being bottom) Bottom row is CT caps (except purple being top) No one can tell the difference between black CT caps and black M&M caps.. Just FYI PrinceXD p.s. pic taken from HKPSA: http://hkpsa.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=25448&highlight=NP
peninja wrote: um sumone is trading skyblue and pink with corresponding sailor grips these are M&M caps for 4 old namaes, is this fair, and also how do i know the caps arent fake
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Date: Fri, May 6 2011 05:12:57
1 SEVEN G3 (signo tip instead of needlepoint) for 4 superlavable 8 Reynolds 094 (white)
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Date: Fri, May 6 2011 05:50:28
I think that is about right. on PW 094 caps are 1.35 time 8 is 10.8, idk how much superlavables are, but assuming they are about 3 bucks each thats 12 and so a total of 22.8 for a 25 dollar mod. So, the person giving the SEVEN mod might be giving a bit too much, but depends on how badly he wants the superlavables and the 094 caps, they should be about right. What is the value on SEVEN's watercolor mod, and a Sister_R g3 mod?
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Date: Fri, May 6 2011 05:59:53
Value of two M&M caps? (Pink, Skyblue)
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Date: Sun, May 8 2011 02:43:39
How much shall I pay for a Sweet Drop ?
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Date: Wed, May 11 2011 23:07:18
Elune;92204]How much shall I pay for a Sweet Drop ?[/QUOTE] ~50 dollars [QUOTE=blahblahting;91328]Value of two M&M caps? (Pink, Skyblue)[/QUOTE] I sold mine for 5 bucks each..so I dunno, maybe even more. [QUOTE=Riley wrote: 1 SEVEN G3 (signo tip instead of needlepoint) for 4 superlavable 8 Reynolds 094 (white)
Superlavables and Reynolds are DIRT cheap. theyre like BICs to the French, unfair deal. -
Date: Thu, May 12 2011 05:32:39
50$ for a Sweet Drop ??? Oh man I didn't know that ... Why is it so expensive ? Just because it isn't produced anymore ?
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Date: Fri, May 13 2011 01:35:48
Yeah apparently it's hard to find. And also sweet drop mod was made by SeVen for all those hardcore SeVen fans out there.
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Date: Fri, May 13 2011 01:58:31
Nachoaddict wrote: Yeah apparently it's hard to find. And also sweet drop mod was made by SeVen for all those hardcore SeVen fans out there.
lol hardcore fair price of clear waterfall? -
Date: Fri, May 13 2011 10:31:53
Made by? or Popularized by? ;) planter* haz one too :P PrinceXD
Nachoaddict wrote: Yeah apparently it's hard to find. And also sweet drop mod was made by SeVen for all those hardcore SeVen fans out there.
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Date: Fri, May 13 2011 13:41:20
Yeah yeah I forgot to mention Planter >_< lol. Thanks for the correction PrinceXD
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Date: Fri, May 13 2011 13:49:41
I really don't know about this... The Sweet Drop is a pen ? Or a mod ? My friend told me that he had 6 Sweet Drops, which I can barely believe >.<
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Date: Sat, May 14 2011 00:52:13
How much are MonAmi Plus Pens worth?
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Date: Sat, May 14 2011 03:31:00
Elune wrote: I really don't know about this... The Sweet Drop is a pen ? Or a mod ? My friend told me that he had 6 Sweet Drops, which I can barely believe >.<
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Date: Sat, May 14 2011 05:16:41
errr ,... is it a pen or a mod ?
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Date: Sat, May 14 2011 05:35:20
Its kinda both, Sweet drop: a pen Sweet drop mod: the mod
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Date: Sat, May 14 2011 05:42:00
Elune wrote: errr ,... is it a pen or a mod ?
it IS both. Usually when people refer to a sweet drop, they mean the [SEVEN] mod. Sweet drop pens unmodded are hard to come by. Darkrose has like 12 of everything, so dont mind him :lol: -
Date: Sat, May 14 2011 18:14:44
Jan wrote: How much are MonAmi Plus Pens worth?
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Date: Sat, May 14 2011 18:26:10
Price of Group A in USD: 4 Dr. Grip Tips 4 Old Namae Caps 2 Full Jap Dr. Grip Grips Price of Group B in USD: 15 White STs 5 Black STs 4 DC Small Cap CT 2 DC Small Cap Emboss 1 Pink Hyperjell grip 1 Blue Moonz Riason MX
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Date: Sat, May 14 2011 18:33:52
iColor wrote: Price of Group A in USD: 4 Dr. Grip Tips 4 Old Namae Caps 2 Full Jap Dr. Grip Grips Price of Group B in USD: 15 White STs 5 Black STs 4 DC Small Cap CT 2 DC Small Cap Emboss 1 Pink Hyperjell grip 1 Blue Moonz Riason MX
My estimations are: 4 Dr. Grip Tips = $20 4 Old Namae Caps = $6 2 Full Jap Dr. Grips = $5 15 White ST's = $3 5 Black ST's = $1 4 DC Small Cap CT = $5 2 DC Small Cap Emboss = $3 1 Pink Hyper Jell Grip = $1 1 Blue Moonz Riason MX = $6 -
Date: Sun, May 15 2011 09:19:50
Well, how much is a Watercolor (in Seven's Watercolor mod) ? Is it worth a Dr.Grip ?
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Date: Sun, May 15 2011 15:40:27
How much are MonAmi Plus Pen 3000s worth? I need an answer fast! @Nachoaddict @anybodyhereonUPSBwhocananswerthisquestion
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Date: Sun, May 15 2011 16:06:12
@Jan just ebay it. They're worth shit lol. I just saw a box of 12 going for $3.59 BIN. People weren't answering because you could easily google the price so just try it out next time ;)
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Date: Sun, May 15 2011 16:14:52
Nachoaddict wrote: @Jan just ebay it. They're worth shit lol. I just saw a box of 12 going for $3.59 BIN. People weren't answering because you could easily google the price so just try it out next time ;)
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Date: Sun, May 15 2011 16:53:27
Correct me if I'm wrong but white tornado is made of all subbed white parts except the grips right? I wouldn't pay more than $5 above the price of a black or blue one. White tornados are more obscure so it's harder to judge their price. I'm just suggesting this because I'm not exactly sure of the price either.
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Date: Mon, May 16 2011 00:34:03
how much are the whole hgr pens worth and how muc hare old namaes? how much namae=2 hgr pens
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Date: Mon, May 16 2011 01:18:25
@peninja - Whole HGR pens: http://pentelstore.com/index.php?grp=662 How much do M&M packs go on sale, nowadays? Maybe I can sell some packs and earn some $$... LOL
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Date: Mon, May 16 2011 02:36:13
How much do Cubix RSVP's sell for individually?
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Date: Tue, May 17 2011 06:19:56
Jan wrote: How much are White Tornado Mods worth? Or Red Tornados?
The authentic white caps for white tornado mod are discontinued since like 1 year ago. In UPSB, a pre-made white tornado should be about $15-$20 USD. The tornado grips are discontinued as well. In UPSB, its price is about $10 USD. -
Date: Tue, May 17 2011 08:55:41
Jacob8185 wrote: @peninja - Whole HGR pens: http://pentelstore.com/index.php?grp=662 How much do M&M packs go on sale, nowadays? Maybe I can sell some packs and earn some $$... LOL
Not much, maybe $10 - $20 max now. I wouldn't buying them off you, maybe like $35 max :) -
Date: Tue, May 17 2011 10:43:45
value of 1 penz gear? (orange)
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Date: Tue, May 17 2011 15:15:49
Krispy Kreme wrote: Not much, maybe $10 - $20 max now. I wouldn't buying them off you, maybe like $35 max :)
He's asking about PACKS.. :facepalm: I guess a proper value of 1 M&M pack these days would be around $150-$170 USD. -
Date: Tue, May 17 2011 21:20:34
Tornado grips are not $10 each wtf o_O @L-in
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Date: Tue, May 17 2011 23:41:56
Nachoaddict wrote: Tornado grips are not $10 each wtf o_O @L-in
Penwish is selling tornado mods for 10 USD, and it was the price before it discontinued. ^_^ -
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 00:31:43
AHHHH you're talking about the mod. Haha I read that wrong then >< I thought you meant the grips skyrocketed from like $2.35 to $10 each. My mistake ^^
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Date: Wed, May 18 2011 18:59:19
How much is a white golden-tipped Dr. Grip MP worth? And they are discontinued, right?
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Date: Wed, May 18 2011 20:22:06
Elune wrote: Well, how much is a Watercolor (in Seven's Watercolor mod) ? Is it worth a Dr.Grip ?
A Watercolor is worth MUCH MUCH more than a dr.grip. Dr.Grips are worth ~9 dollars A watercolor [mod] is ~45-50, depending on its condition, and the body is around 10~15. -
Date: Wed, May 18 2011 23:36:41
Yeah I'm talking about Watercolor body, well 10-15$ is just a little more than a DrGrip xD Can I trade one for a M&M ?
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Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 15:20:34
How much would one pay for hexagonal markers and 700 N bodies (not saying their market price) for Joey's DC?
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Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 15:41:35
5 profiles 3 Rsvp moonz 2 DC namaes 10 black pw rings 4 black supertip for $25 including shipping??
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Date: Sat, Jun 4 2011 13:52:18
@Fran $5 $9 Trade Value of old namaes not clear. If they are new namaes, they will be much cheaper. Let's just go with $5 for 2 old and $2 for 2 new. $1 $1 Person paying is paying a bit too much if they are new namaes. That's $18 without shippin. But if they're old, it's about $21 w/o shipping so that seems a bit more fair.
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Date: Sat, Jun 4 2011 21:15:04
is a ppp case expensive? (about $25?) Thanks!
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Date: Sat, Jun 4 2011 23:05:53
how long does shipping from Thailand to Canada take? i waited over 56 business days for my package
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Date: Sun, Jun 5 2011 00:33:32
hoqw long does hsipping from California(midcal) to alberta, in canada? ive waited about 3 weeks
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Date: Sun, Jun 5 2011 01:14:56
Canada is truly "the suck" when it comes to shipping. 3 weeks is not out of the question for canada. 56 days may be a bit of a stretch but it is definitely possible.
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Date: Sun, Jun 5 2011 03:15:32
value of ballsigns miffy edition?
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Date: Sun, Jun 12 2011 17:53:46
value of 2 miffys without caps?
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Date: Sun, Jun 12 2011 18:16:22
PenwisH wrote: Canada is truly "the suck" when it comes to shipping. 3 weeks is not out of the question for canada. 56 days may be a bit of a stretch but it is definitely possible.
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Date: Sun, Jun 19 2011 13:58:48
I think I got scammed by a guy named alice-R @L-in and so did those 3 people. We are not 100% sure though
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Date: Sun, Jun 19 2011 14:45:32
yes you did
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Date: Sun, Jun 19 2011 15:03:20
Yeah, it was actually quite obvious, he said his camera is broken so he can't take pictures of the pens and made several excuses like this, but I wasn't sure... So I gave him the money. It wasn't that much, otherwise I wouldn't have done the trade. I already reportet the transaction on Paypal, maybe I can get my money back^^
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Date: Mon, Jun 20 2011 05:16:41
Value of White emboss small caps?
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Date: Mon, Jun 20 2011 23:14:29
2 ZT tips 4 white sunburst 1 black RSVP 2 profile grips, 1 RSVP color pack for 2 G1, 2 superlavable?
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Date: Mon, Jun 20 2011 23:19:21
Riley wrote: 2 ZT tips 4 white sunburst 1 black RSVP 2 profile grips, 1 RSVP color pack for 2 G1, 2 superlavable?
Hell no. Super lavables, Reynolds 094 and Reynolds Pulpi's are DIRT CHEAP. Theyre like the price of RSVPs. 1 RSVP color pack, 2 ZT tips and 1 profile grip is [B]MORE THAN ENOUGH[/B] -
Date: Mon, Jun 20 2011 23:22:47
value is relative. Superlavable is somewhat more difficult to get although they aren't that much. Try to get some stabilo trio. they work nicely as well
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Date: Mon, Jun 20 2011 23:25:03
Well, almost every French trader Ive traded with have told me they are easily accessible and that theyre not that expensive. I still dont believe that theyre worth that much, Eric. Nothing special either
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Date: Mon, Jun 20 2011 23:28:25
$15 for 2 yellow beifa grips including shipping ?
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Date: Mon, Jun 20 2011 23:46:18
debatable. still not the easiest to get. Worth i'd say then are worth 2$ or so in trade value . it's only available in 1 country.
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Date: Thu, Jun 23 2011 04:07:55
Wait was that Alice_R person the one selling Dr. Grips for cheap? Never replied to my pm...Glad he/she didn't lol
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Date: Thu, Jun 23 2011 04:19:38
Wasn;t the guy selling the ACTs the one sellin Dr. Grips for 6.25 each? But yeah, Alice_R is apparently a scammer
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Date: Thu, Jun 23 2011 21:20:47
Krispy Kreme wrote: $15 for 2 yellow beifa grips including shipping ?
Depends from where.. Coloured Beifa grips I say are ~4-5 dollars each. Shipping is defitnately debateable -
Date: Sat, Jun 25 2011 19:41:48
price of a white dr grip?
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Date: Sat, Jun 25 2011 20:34:26
G-spec or Jap? @Apho
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Date: Sat, Jun 25 2011 20:52:13
G spec would mean the under grip. so i guess jap? but it has a clip. the White gripped, pastel bodied ones is what im talking about
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Date: Sat, Jun 25 2011 21:04:37
To people who have traded with yurchik, from the US: Did the package from him take over a month? It's probably just because it's international, but I'm jsut a little worried.
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Date: Sun, Jun 26 2011 04:57:53
V-Storm wrote: Value of White emboss small caps?
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Date: Sun, Jun 26 2011 05:09:23
Something like that Highest I would go would be $3.00
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Date: Sun, Jun 26 2011 05:56:23
DrakeOhMeteor007 wrote: I think I got scammed by a guy named alice-R @L-in and so did those 3 people. We are not 100% sure though
I got scammed by him befor too,he gave me the same reason, but paypal refunded me :D -
Date: Sun, Jun 26 2011 06:08:22
Rabbid wrote: I got scammed by him befor too,he gave me the same reason, but paypal refunded me :D
WHY didn't you give him -1 feedback and thus could prevent us from being scammed? >v< Anywayz, did paypal refund to your bank card or paypal account? I and DM007 both use VISA giftcard for paypal which means we cannot accept money into the card. -
Date: Sun, Jun 26 2011 06:14:56
Sorry to go on a slight tangent here but @Li-n Just wondering if you use the giftcard do you need a bank account as well to spend paypal money? Or is that just for money you recieve into your paypal account?
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Date: Sun, Jun 26 2011 06:19:01
@Nachoaddict It acts exactly same as a regular credit card. You don't need any additional card or account, just activate it and use. Eazy~ The only drawback is that it costs a lot of extra fee to buy one and the card cannot reload or receive money. Paypal account can receive money though, but you can only spend it via paypal. P.S. I am L-in, not Li-n, lol~
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Date: Sun, Jun 26 2011 06:54:17
L-in wrote: @Nachoaddict It acts exactly same as a regular credit card. You don't need any additional card or account, just activate it and use. Eazy~ The only drawback is that it costs a lot of extra fee to buy one and the card cannot reload or receive money. Paypal account can receive money though, but you can only spend it via paypal. P.S. I am L-in, not Li-n, lol~
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Date: Sun, Jun 26 2011 06:54:51
Sorry mang. Because I think it was Wonder who didn't have a bank account linked to his paypal and so for whatever reason he couldn't spend any money even though he could recieve it.
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Date: Sun, Jun 26 2011 07:19:33
almost got scammed by alice-R was about $20 worth but lucky i no paypal
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Date: Sun, Jun 26 2011 10:19:04
L-in wrote: WHY didn't you give him -1 feedback and thus could prevent us from being scammed? >v< Anywayz, did paypal refund to your bank card or paypal account? I and DM007 both use VISA giftcard for paypal which means we cannot accept money into the card.
To my friend's credit card, he said that his account was locked something, funny right :facepalm: -
Date: Sun, Jun 26 2011 17:12:15
OH so using the Visa gift card is a way to verify your account! Wow why didn't someone tell me sooner! I would have gotten a paypal haha
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Date: Sun, Jun 26 2011 18:05:49
no it not a way to verify yoru act
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Date: Sun, Jun 26 2011 18:34:24
PenwisH wrote: no it not a way to verify yoru act
someone told me it only lets u use the gift card money o nly -
Date: Mon, Jun 27 2011 05:21:31
Awwww :( so if you receive money you still won't be able to use it.
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Date: Mon, Jun 27 2011 05:31:25
Nachoaddict wrote: Awwww :( so if you receive money you still won't be able to use it.
Nope, you can use the money received in your paypal account, I tried myself. I have only VISA giftcard connected, no bank account required. -
Date: Mon, Jun 27 2011 05:37:27
Then does that mean you're not verifying your account yet spending money that you get? Because as far as I know you need to do that with a credit card or a bank account before you can spend money. >_>
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Date: Tue, Jun 28 2011 10:01:31
Hello guys, what is the price for a Zhigao mod like that please ? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/sansre1u.png/
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Date: Tue, Jun 28 2011 22:56:17
@Spiral those are dirt cheap in china/hong kong. I can get them for like $3 USD.. or roughly something like that.. PrinceXD
Spiral wrote: Hello guys, what is the price for a Zhigao mod like that please ? http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/sansre1u.png/
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Date: Wed, Jun 29 2011 00:50:08
2 questions 1. value of one muji hex marker for joey dc 2. what is the paypal limit for unverified accounts. ive been using a prepaid card, but ive heard about the spending limit. anyway to remove without a credit card/bank account?
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Date: Wed, Jun 29 2011 00:59:57
They cost something like 2 USD per amrker, but they can be found in asia alone, iirc. The most i'd pay for a single one is ~3.50.
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Date: Wed, Jun 29 2011 03:32:09
@Rabbid OK LET ME EXPLAIN THIS. GIFT PREPAID AMEX/VISA/MASTER CARDS CAN BE USED FOR PAYPAL. IT IS A SUBSTITUTE FOR A CREDIT CARD BUT THE ONLY DIFFERENCES IT CAN NOT RECEIVE MONEY, THERE IS A LIMIT AND THE PAYPAL ACCOUNT CAN NOT BE VERIFIED WITH A GIFT CARD. A PAYPAL ACCOUNT CAN ONLY BE VERIFIED THROUGH YOUR BANK AND OR CREDIT CARD COMPANY. GIFT CARDS ARE ONLY USED IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A CREDIT CARD OR BANK ACCOUNT. AND YES YOU CAN SEND MONEY WITH AN UNVERIFIED ACCOUNT BUT THERE IS A LIMIT. MINES ABOUT 3000 I THINK I FORGOT BUT ITS PRETTY HIGH. AND YES ONLY VERIFIED ACCOUNTS CAN HAVE THE REFUNDED MONEY SENT BACK TO THE PAYPAL ACCOUNT BUT YOU CAN ALSO CHOOSE THE CARD OR BANK ACCOUNT. THAT SHOULD MAKE THINGS CLEAR.
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Date: Wed, Jun 29 2011 03:35:01
Thanks for the info, but PLEASE stop typing in all caps, pisses a lot of people off. This includes in your trade thread too. Kthxbai
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Date: Wed, Jun 29 2011 05:30:17
Thanks a ton for clearing it up :)
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Date: Wed, Jun 29 2011 05:32:01
Nachoaddict wrote: Thanks a ton for clearing it up :)
your welcome -
Date: Wed, Jun 29 2011 05:59:27
1 last question about it when you said the 3000 limit, is that YOUR personal limit depending on how you use paypal, or everyone who uses unverified paypal? is there a way to increase it? also, @Nachoaddict what would you say the value of a muji hex marker is? id trust your judgement lol.
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Date: Wed, Jun 29 2011 06:03:25
@Cloud According to the Muji website they're only $1.25 lol. So post I'd pay is $2.50 or $3 from a trader. 3 is pretty steep as it is but that's if you can't get em and you like REALLY want them. Or you could just pay $1.25 and get them off the website haha. http://www.muji.us/store/stationery/pen-pencil/double-ended-hybrid-pen-hex.html
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Date: Wed, Jun 29 2011 06:05:45
Cloud wrote: 1 last question about it when you said the 3000 limit, is that YOUR personal limit depending on how you use paypal, or everyone who uses unverified paypal? is there a way to increase it? also, @Nachoaddict what would you say the value of a muji hex marker is? id trust your judgement lol.
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Date: Wed, Jun 29 2011 06:11:39
oh wow thanks nacho! j74q wanted 6.50 EACH then lowered to 5. didnt even know you could buy from muji in the us lol
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Date: Wed, Jun 29 2011 06:16:24
Yeah I asked him about it and he didn't even reply when I asked for prices...Yeah he's ripping you off bigtime unless he doesn't know their true value and he got ripped off himself.
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Date: Wed, Jun 29 2011 06:33:34
well he said that he had a muji store near his house so i dunno... ill ask him about it thanks for everything man. you're awesome @Nachoaddict
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Date: Wed, Jun 29 2011 22:33:41
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Date: Wed, Jun 29 2011 22:37:22
@Jan read the last 5 posts... if you buy online, they're 1.25 each traders should be around 1.50-2 lol j74q wanted 6.50 for EACH.
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Date: Wed, Jun 29 2011 23:08:54
Cloud wrote: @Jan read the last 5 posts... if you buy online, they're 1.25 each traders should be around 1.50-2 lol j74q wanted 6.50 for EACH.
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Date: Thu, Jun 30 2011 03:48:33
muji markers are definitely not 1.5 in market value.. they cost roughly 2.. in stores so yeah, 2.5-3 is reasonable but i wont be surprised if it goes up to 4 since its one "unique" marker.. 6.5? no way PrinceXD
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Date: Tue, Jul 5 2011 10:32:36
What is the value of a G3 and is it worth a Jimnie?
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Date: Wed, Jul 6 2011 10:38:51
@Explosion101 , price of g3 on penwish: $2.50 ish (i think 2.54) price if Hyperjell: $2.15 . its a slightly better deal for you. but idc
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Date: Thu, Jul 7 2011 22:31:23
I suspect skyspinna911 is a scammer. He has 0 feedback, and wishes that I send first because he is offering MM bodies. @Breezy seems to be having some problems with him too.
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Date: Thu, Jul 7 2011 22:32:52
Same for me. The minute I asked for pictures he stopped talking to me. He said he got them from a store in Princeton University. Very hard to believe. His other trade with Breezy doesn't seem to be going well either looking at their visitor message posts.
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Date: Thu, Jul 7 2011 22:44:19
I've send him a package roughly about a week and a half ago. He sais he hasn't received yet (doubt it) and wants me to send him more things. I have yet to receive skyspinnas package yet...don't think I ever will.
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Date: Thu, Jul 7 2011 22:50:11
Explosion101 wrote: What is the value of a G3 and is it worth a Jimnie?
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Date: Thu, Jul 7 2011 22:56:11
Breezy wrote: I've send him a package roughly about a week and a half ago. He sais he hasn't received yet (doubt it) and wants me to send him more things. I have yet to receive skyspinnas package yet...don't think I ever will.
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Date: Thu, Jul 7 2011 23:00:36
Well it's completely possible that he practiced with pencils or he didn't get into modding that much etc etc. But I don't know...I have a screenshot of the convo just in case people need evidence :/ Hopefully he's not a scammer but you never know.
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Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 01:28:50
He just told me he got them from a friend in JEB.
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Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 01:41:32
See? Already inconsistencies in the stories.
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Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 01:53:13
Yep, he also left when I asked for pictures. And same story as hoiboy, he got them from a friend in JEB, who's father works at a stationery store.
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Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 01:55:49
Hm... strange, he was offering to trade an Impact MX once... I figured he was a newbie and figured, what the heck, why not help him along with his first trade. I believe it was Buster CYL for Impact MX + 3 dollars. I said I wanted a pic, and that he send first... he agreed but I cancelled the trade when he kept insisting on sending a check instead of cash. Him having M&M's is probably bullshit. When I first started talking to him, he was practically brand new. About a week ago, some guy from a different board asked for the price of an M&M he said 10, someone else said 10-15. I highly doubt that he knows people in JEB. A domestic package taking over a week? Highly unlikely. So I dunno. Maybe he figured since he was new, he might as well try to scam...
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Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 01:58:08
Skyspinna911 and ev0lution have same ip. be forewarned
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Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 03:56:53
Cloud wrote: Hm... strange, he was offering to trade an Impact MX once... I figured he was a newbie and figured, what the heck, why not help him along with his first trade. I believe it was Buster CYL for Impact MX + 3 dollars. I said I wanted a pic, and that he send first... he agreed but I cancelled the trade when he kept insisting on sending a check instead of cash. Him having M&M's is probably bullshit. When I first started talking to him, he was practically brand new. About a week ago, some guy from a different board asked for the price of an M&M he said 10, someone else said 10-15. I highly doubt that he knows people in JEB. A domestic package taking over a week? Highly unlikely. So I dunno. Maybe he figured since he was new, he might as well try to scam...
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Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 04:19:55
ev0lution kept insisting on me sending him a kt and him sending 2 miffies. He almost finalized the deal without even asking me like :wtf: too bad I don't own a kt :D
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Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 06:17:18
Were currently trading, I'm supposed to receive an impact mx ..
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Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 06:19:05
@hoiboy i'm thinking that when he was trading with me, he didn't plan on scamming. I told him i wouldnt send first because i have more feedback. Took him a while but he agreed. It was buster for impact mx + 3 usd. It wasnt really well made, but i didn't want a buster either. but then he wanted to send a check, said something about laws prohibiting cash... WTF? so i called it off i guess he realized that hes new, could just scam and abandon. Too bad it was so obvious...
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Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 07:50:52
Oh I remember him.. He offered me impact mx in the shoutbox randomly... Then I just showed him the one I purchased from Kam and he's like ...... However, the way he approached me seems weird as I never ever showed that I wanted 1.. PrinceXD
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Date: Fri, Jul 8 2011 19:51:14
Cloud wrote: @hoiboy i'm thinking that when he was trading with me, he didn't plan on scamming. I told him i wouldnt send first because i have more feedback. Took him a while but he agreed. It was buster for impact mx + 3 usd. It wasnt really well made, but i didn't want a buster either. but then he wanted to send a check, said something about laws prohibiting cash... WTF? so i called it off i guess he realized that hes new, could just scam and abandon. Too bad it was so obvious...
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Date: Sat, Jul 9 2011 01:21:51
He's a scammer just like Alice-R
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Date: Tue, Jul 12 2011 20:35:37
how's this trade? buster cyl, spinz axis, rsvp mx v emboss, ayatori, 2x kt
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Date: Tue, Jul 12 2011 20:43:20
jeez whoever is giving the emboss ayatori and 2 kt is getting REAMED and not in the good way
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Date: Tue, Jul 12 2011 20:44:21
Indeed. Even if the 2x kt keityou pens, that guy is still giving wayyyyy too much,
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Date: Tue, Jul 12 2011 20:54:58
howabout buster cyl, spinz axis, rsvp mx v emboss, metallic comssa, nacho rsvp, flying panda
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Date: Tue, Jul 12 2011 21:05:37
is this emboss mod or pen? to me spinx axis is not worth much
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Date: Tue, Jul 12 2011 21:10:26
it's an emboss pen
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Date: Tue, Jul 12 2011 21:22:41
that deal seems better / more fair.
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Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 02:03:51
PenwisH wrote: is this emboss mod or pen? to me spinx axis is not worth much
well about our problem (not mention any names) @Zombo replied say he doesnt deal with these issue apprently -
Date: Thu, Jul 14 2011 22:52:42
about how much could a subbed F1r3fly G3 go for?
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Date: Thu, Jul 14 2011 23:21:58
It depends on how much of it is subbed, what parts are used, how it looks, etc.
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Date: Thu, Jul 14 2011 23:31:24
Nachoaddict wrote: It depends on how much of it is subbed, what parts are used, how it looks, etc.
i'll get a pic of it later the only things different is instead of an HGG grip in the cap i used an RSVP grip and there is no G2 inktube in the front -
Date: Thu, Jul 14 2011 23:32:52
@Zombo Ok i got into a trade where we began to negotiate around beginning f july/end of june. We got to a deal which i found resonable but I did not finalize by saying i would think about it. The seller is claiming i finalized which i dont remember on doing so. WE talked on msn which i cant fidn the chat history and he migth not have hcat history since he wasusing ebuddy. After 3 weeks of studying( 4 exams, summer school, violin exams, etc), family problems (deaths, arguements, breakups, brink of divorce) the worst weeks of my lives (still going on now), i told him i am canceling the trade. Now he is threatening me negative feedback. Does he have a right to? Help guys?
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Date: Thu, Jul 14 2011 23:34:27
Let him give his story as well. You can't base a decision like this off of one person only.
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Date: Thu, Jul 14 2011 23:35:44
Nachoaddict wrote: Let him give his story as well. You can't base a decision like this off of one person only.
i argued with him in french for some time and i udnerstood what he said and wat i am sayign is what he is saying -
Date: Thu, Jul 14 2011 23:38:00
It doesn't matter. If you're going to quarrel with him over feedback he needs to be able to speak for himself. There's no way of knowing if your word is true you know.
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Date: Thu, Jul 14 2011 23:49:33
IMO if he did not specify that cancelling trades = negative feedback and both parties havent done anything after negotiation process... he couldnt give you feedback.. the trade technically still hasnt "started" yet @DrakeOhMeteor007 PrinceXD
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Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 00:07:49
Well, when I offered him a price, he said "I would think about it", so I've lowered the price and he told me that it was ok and that he will (not would) pay me, so the negociations was finish in the end of june. Then, 3 weeks later (now) he tell me that he cancel the trade and he doesn't want my stuff. During theses 3 weeks, I've kept the stuff and refused about 5/7 other offers and then he tell me that he won't pay although he said that he will pay.
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Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 00:13:02
Spiral wrote: Well, when I offered him a price, he said "I would think about it", so I've lowered the price and he told me that it was ok and that he will (not would) pay me, so the negociations was finish in the end of june. Then, 3 weeks later (now) he tell me that he cancel the trade and he doesn't want my stuff. During theses 3 weeks, I've kept the stuff and refused about 5/7 other offers and then he tell me that he won't pay although he said that he will pay.
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Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 00:15:56
Yes it was :)
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Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 00:20:17
Spiral wrote: Yes it was :)
he was talking about it in the shoutbox the deal you were making was almost 400 usd... can't really blame him for backing out, he probably realized that that's a lot for one order and about you refusing the other people, that's on you -
Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 00:26:56
its drake lol no such thing as a lot for one order but I wouldn't say it was on him for refusing, especially since Drake apparently agreed that he would pay him. If I was Spiral, I'd see it as negotiations being done, and the other guy getting all the stuff/money to trade with me If Drake didn't actually agree that he will pay Spiral, its a different story
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Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 00:30:03
Apho wrote: its drake lol no such thing as a lot for one order
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Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 01:43:36
i only agreed to the price of the deal but I never said i would actually paid. I jsut said i would think about it
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Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 02:57:17
Explosion101;116705][QUOTE=Explosion101 wrote: about how much could a subbed F1r3fly G3 go for?
i'll get a pic of it later the only things different is instead of an HGG grip in the cap i used an RSVP grip and there is no G2 inktube in the front[/QUOTE] ahem -
Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 06:36:06
If it's only the RSVP grip the I think you can practically sell it for a regular F1r3fly g3 mod price. Usually those go anywhere between $15 to even $30 for the good ones. And then higher if they are extra sexy and made by like TEK or Kam or some other famous modder like F1r3fly himself.
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Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 10:31:37
Nachoaddict wrote: If it's only the RSVP grip the I think you can practically sell it for a regular F1r3fly g3 mod price. Usually those go anywhere between $15 to even $30 for the good ones. And then higher if they are extra sexy and made by like TEK or Kam or some other famous modder like F1r3fly himself.
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Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 19:17:30
Authentic Yelo Mod 2x Airfit Jel Tips 1x Dr Grip Grip 4x S360 (worthless to me) FOR Autentic Seven Watercolor https://picasaweb.google.com/DamianManthey/Mods#5364972184660993154 Authentic Body right? Fair?
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Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 19:20:11
Cloud wrote: Authentic Yelo Mod 2x Airfit Jel Tips 1x Dr Grip Grip 4x S360 (worthless to me) FOR Autentic Seven Watercolor https://picasaweb.google.com/DamianManthey/Mods#5364972184660993154 Authentic Body right? Fair?
authentic body. ask him to show you the tips off the mod and the grip. also color scheme is not original -
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 19:24:57
yeah, that was obvious, but i have caps. was it fair?
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Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 19:25:43
Cloud wrote: yeah, that was obvious, but i have caps. was it fair?
ask him for the tips. See if the tips are the real ones -
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 19:27:53
he said they were, hes sending first. if its not, ill just send back, give bad feedback. DO YOU THINK ITS FAIR?
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Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 20:08:19
@Cloud I think you're getting the way better deal here. If you want to be fair you should give a bit more
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Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 20:09:29
well i almost always include freebies ill talk to him about it.
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Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 20:11:16
Freebies aren't supposed to be considered in trade value though lol. They're "free" hence the name.
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Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 20:11:19
@Cloud: This is what penwish said when I asked him: "no one will give you a good answer for that so it's really up to you and what you think a watercolor is worth. yes it's worth a lot but just how much no one knows"
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Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 20:11:37
Cloud wrote: well i almost always include freebies ill talk to him about it.
NONONON JUST GET THE WATERCOLOUR LOL i tried traind him but he wont send first cuz i have negative feedback. I was like its not negative god, it was a mistake and iMatt is going to remove it and he was like no. I was like fuck this and i didnt trade with him. Ypur lucky i didnt accept @Cloud . -
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 20:12:13
...i know its worth between 40 to 60 just wanted to know what other people thought about the trade. yeah, i was panicking when you wrote /pmed. lol
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Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 20:40:16
Cloud wrote: ...i know its worth between 40 to 60 just wanted to know what other people thought about the trade. yeah, i was panicking when you wrote /pmed. lol
DONT GIVE MROE ON YOUR SIDE sweetdrop 50$-60$+ watercolor 35$-40$ max persons 10-25$+ depending on color for a DC one or for 2 m&m $7-10ea fair pricing? @Nachoaddict -
Date: Sat, Jul 23 2011 20:45:00
I don't think Sweetdrops are more than $60. 60 should be max. M&M's are usually a bit more like $8-12. $8 if it's okay quality and you only have body. Persons I don't think should go to $25. $20 should be max.
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Date: Sun, Jul 24 2011 21:35:34
Can anyone help me with the prices of: M&M KT? Dr. Grip and Sailors versions. kUzu mod? Old SEVEN mod? Waterfall mod? Minwoo SC?
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Date: Sun, Jul 24 2011 21:38:56
honestly...10$ for all your stuff. PM me plz. haha *jk mmkt 30-40 drigrip wut? sailor about 1$ each
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Date: Sun, Jul 24 2011 21:42:13
Resonance wrote: Can anyone help me with the prices of: M&M KT? Dr. Grip and Sailors versions. kUzu mod? Old SEVEN mod? Waterfall mod? Minwoo SC?
M&M KT is around $30. Maybe more if the quality is very good. Kuzu depends a lot on the grip cut. That will vary from $20 for the really bad gripcuts to over $30 if the grip cut is good or done by a famous modder. SEVEN mod is about $25 but lately I've seen them for $12-15 (yeah o_O) Waterfalls on Penwish are $18 but I'd say $15-20 is reasonable as well. Minwoo I think is $17-23 again depending on quality. -
Date: Sun, Jul 24 2011 21:42:50
Nachoaddict wrote: M&M KT is around $30. Maybe more if the quality is very good. Kuzu depends a lot on the grip cut. That will vary from $20 for the really bad gripcuts to over $30 if the grip cut is good or done by a famous modder. SEVEN mod is about $25 but lately I've seen them for $12-15 (yeah o_O) Waterfalls on Penwish are $18 but I'd say $15-20 is reasonable as well. Minwoo I think is $17-23 again depending on quality.
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Date: Sun, Jul 24 2011 21:45:53
Oh is that what he meant by "old"? Well that's around $35-40 for the white body version. The colored bodies range in price and I'm unsure of those.
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Date: Sun, Jul 24 2011 21:51:31
Nachoaddict wrote: Oh is that what he meant by "old"? Well that's around $35-40 for the white body version. The colored bodies range in price and I'm unsure of those.
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Date: Sun, Jul 24 2011 21:52:51
There always were ._. Shonen sold this red one and he also had a blue one before.
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Date: Sun, Jul 24 2011 21:56:43
Nachoaddict wrote: There always were ._. Shonen sold this red one and he also had a blue one before. http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m293/shonenbatman411/2011-04-1020-34-00492.jpg
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Date: Mon, Jul 25 2011 04:19:44
Because of the stupid strikes in Canada, two packages I sent just before that period might be lost. It has been over 2 months and nothing arrived my recipents. So, since it is a national disaster (excuse me for using this expression), do I have an obligation to refund my traders? I was planning on refunding 50% of their losts (not cheap, at all); do you think it's reasonable? I have no problem with refunding, but isn't that a bit unfair to me? Since I spent money buying and shipping stuff out and then I have to pay more again. Maybe I am just complaining here, but does anyone else have a same problem with mine? How do you guys resolve it? T_T
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Date: Mon, Jul 25 2011 06:58:05
I think 50% is completely reasonable. Or some percentage around there. However I don't think they should send stuff over without recieving because it was out of their control as well.
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Date: Mon, Jul 25 2011 07:26:06
L-in wrote: Because of the stupid strikes in Canada, two packages I sent just before that period might be lost. It has been over 2 months and nothing arrived my recipents. So, since it is a national disaster (excuse me for using this expression), do I have an obligation to refund my traders? I was planning on refunding 50% of their losts (not cheap, at all); do you think it's reasonable? I have no problem with refunding, but isn't that a bit unfair to me? Since I spent money buying and shipping stuff out and then I have to pay more again. Maybe I am just complaining here, but does anyone else have a same problem with mine? How do you guys resolve it? T_T
Give it some time, another month or so. Notify them first,its out of your control and jurisdiciton on how and where the packge is. /triedusingbigwords [b]tl;dr[/i]Give it one month, nothing? 50% refund. Better than none. How I solve it..I just leave them bitching. Its not my fault that it was lost. You told me to sell you pens, I sold you a pen. I threw it in a packged destined to your house. It aint arriving? Not my fucking problem. I did my part, USPS does theirs (or not) -
Date: Mon, Jul 25 2011 22:33:26
Or maybe you got scammed. people scam for many reasons you know, racism is one.
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Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 14:26:12
I find it really ironic for Breezy to be posting in this section, discussing about “scammers” when he himself is one, or at least, I believe he is. Some of you may not believe what I’m going to post, but please read this thoroughly, and examine the process, and you can decide for yourself whether or not my claim is actually true. The aim of this thread is to identify Breezy, so that spinners who are sincere about buying pens can make their purchases from others who are more reliable. Also, I hope that Breezy can refund me the $45 USD that I sent to him earlier on for the pens on his thread, and if he does so then this will just be a big hoo-ha that I created, and I will bear responsibility (Negative feedbacks? Flaming?) for this, because I’d deserve it if it was just a misunderstanding. (In no way were the below contents modified, they were captured as screenshots and cropped, that’s all.) In chronological order:
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After which, Breezy procrastinated for a long time, close to 40minutes, and eventually he still refused to refund me USD $45. He digressed to topics way off the subject of refunding. For example he asked "what do you mean by anxious", and said his paypal had no money, can only pay by next week etc.
He then said:
A good excuse for "lost package" I guess, just so that he need not pay.
Sorry that I posted 3 times just for this, but the maximum pictures I can put up is 12 per post.
That's all for my claim. I hope Breezy can refund me still, and I'll apologise if it's misunderstanding on my part. But if he doesn't, it will be a good warning to all. -
Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 14:34:36
wait 2 weeks for your package, if it doesnt arrive, give him negative feedback and post here to warn ppl, i havnt recieved my $50 package from spiral yet and it has been about 3 months, about to give him feedback if i dont recieve in 2 weeks.
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Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 14:41:27
Well, I'm not sure if I have to wait, because if you refer to his sell thread there's another person who asked if he sent those pens already. And I've made another account (I know it's not allowed, but I had to do it so that I can confirm my suspicion) to ask if he's still selling his pens. He actually said yes as seen from the pictures. Oh yes, he also said this:
FYI the "threaten" he mentioned was actually me saying "I will take action"
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Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 16:17:29
That's very interesting >_> Yes I think there is something VERY fishy going on. (And tell a mod that you have 2 accounts and explain what happened and tell them to delete one because it's against the rules). It's a fairly large order so I think if he doesn't refund you or supply you with an adequate explanation, you should give him negative feedback and talk to a mod about it. Also, doesn't Paypal have a recall feature where you can recall the money you have spent? Or is it too late for that. I'm sure you can file a complaint with Paypal and possibly get your money back that way.
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Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 16:33:41
O.o drama!!! He pmed me about trading his waterfall for my ayatori :P but my ayatori is not well made so he dropped it.
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Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 17:01:24
I just asked Breezy what his comment was to the scamming thing, and he said his comment was "Smiley Face".
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Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 17:08:44
Give it more time. If it doesn't get to you by Friday I will fully refund you.
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Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 17:20:34
wait, @NEWsgPS wat pens did you order from him? i don't believe he's a scammer. he's a really nice guy. xD
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Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 17:28:40
Yea he says he sent replicas.
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Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 17:29:45
^ Nice guy <3 Like I told cloud, bypassing the feedback system. Duces!
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Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 17:32:37
@Breezy oh yea, since my pm is working now can i have tracking #?
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Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 18:13:09
lol, i have no idea what breezy is talking about. we were going to trade, i have +35 or something like that, he has +5. I told him to send first, he said no, trade was cancelled.
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Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 18:20:49
i think he doesn't want to rely on the feedback system...and he wants to send at same time maybe. *shrugs*
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Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 18:26:38
well thats really stupid. sending same time is one of the easiest ways to get scammed.
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Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 19:16:08
totally agree. people lags at sending.. and theres actually no difference in sending on time same time and sending first/last. its just that u and ur partner receives the package at roughly the same time. doesnt actually mean anything in terms of trust. (if you get what I mean) PrinceXD
Cloud wrote: well thats really stupid. sending same time is one of the easiest ways to get scammed.
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Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 21:19:11
@NEWsgPS breezy aint no scammer, i traded with him 3 times
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Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 21:23:31
So are you saying that if he did get scammed by Breezy, u'll take full responsibility? [B]I'm not saying Breezy is a scammer in anyway. [/B] I'm only saying that because someone could potentially go nice with other people just to scam in future. [B]Once again, I'm not saying Breezy is a scammer[/B] Just using this as an example. PrinceXD
DrakeOhMeteor007 wrote: NEWsgPS breezy aint no scammer, i traded with him 3 times
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Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 21:26:40
PrinceXD wrote: So are you saying that if he did get scammed by Breezy, u'll take full responsibility? [B]I'm not saying Breezy is a scammer in anyway. [/B] I'm only saying that because someone could potentially go nice with other people just to scam in future. [B]Once again, I'm not saying Breezy is a scammer[/B] Just using this as an example. PrinceXD
i know but you haven't traded with him b4 so you don't know. Im just saying hes not a scammer because he is easy to trade and like I said i traded with him 3 times and will trade with him in the future. -
Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 21:31:52
my situation right now is - I've sent 2 weeks ago, supposedly he did too. He got his package within 3 days while i havent gotten mines yet. But @Breezy was nice enough to say that he will refund me through paypal if it still doesnt arrive. So i sent him my paypal today, so let see what happens.
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Date: Tue, Jul 26 2011 21:33:43
Like i said im only using him as an example. What im trying to say is.. if you fully recommend someone to trade with, should you take full responsibility if he/she did scam. And he DID try trading with me previously, also mentioning that he wants me to send first. and ofcourse I have rejected his offer then, but thats for my own personal reasons. PrinceXD
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 00:39:13
@DrakeOhMeteor007 Yep initially I thought he was not a scammer too. It was precisely because he had some feedback for prominent forum members, so I decided to buy from him.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 00:40:48
@NEWsgPS i bought his trade thread for $30 bucks...=_=
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 00:44:16
Hmmm, if you noticed, the price went from $50, to $40, and even after I bought at $40, went down to $30. Which was what prompted me to make another account to clarify. It's the very same thread with 4 STs, firefly, ayatori etc right?
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 00:51:06
@NEWsgPS no ayatori. it had 4 STs, firefly, SEVEN, metallic comssa, emboss, and some german mod.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 00:53:14
LYFOjh wrote: @NEWsgPS no ayatori. it had 4 STs, firefly, SEVEN, metallic comssa, emboss, and some german mod.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 00:54:45
but i bought one too...=_=
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 01:02:05
LYFOjh wrote: but i bought one too...=_=
I bought 3 -
Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 01:04:06
were they the one's from his thread?
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 01:07:28
LYFOjh wrote: were they the one's from his thread?
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 01:08:03
Oops sorry it wasn't Ayatori, it was seven mod. My bad. Yep he sold it to you at 30 AFTER I bought it at 40. Unless he had that many pen replicas.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 01:08:46
he might've...we never kno.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 01:19:45
I bought that thread also, so does it mean he has 5x seven mods, bought 2 pens from german spinners, 8 Dr STs etc? Hmmm okay I'd believe that for now, and will decide whether or not it's true on Sunday.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 01:26:17
alright, tentcell made the dr st's i remember. he didnt have 8
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 02:04:34
Ohshit ._.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 02:06:10
Yep we got scammed BIG TIME. all five of us.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 02:08:13
I did too :( EDIT: my mom shipped it for me, and she used UPS supposed to arrive to him tommorow but im on the phone with them right now trying to get them to ship it back to me
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 02:15:13
breezy has been planing this this whole time. i mean look at his content on his page. he asked about deleting a account. he was always nice. he sold mods cheap. he was planning it for a while. smart guy. i give him props
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 02:34:13
I think Breezy and Asianspacemang (the guy who got banned for giving himself like +30 feedback) are the same person. For one according to people who traded with him, they have the same last name. First names are changed. Also, he could have bypassed the ban as I will show you now. I hid my last name by the way. These are messages he sent to me shortly after his ban.
Finally, this is his Facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1130170801
I know he posted a picture of himself on the UPSB headshots thread so you can look there and compare pictures and judge for yourself if they are the same person.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 02:36:34
funnky;120409]breezy has been planing this this whole time. i mean look at his content on his page. he asked about deleting a account. he was always nice. he sold mods cheap. he was planning it for a while. smart guy. i give him props[/QUOTE] i got a bit suspicious when he asked about deleting his account but i ignored it Bumps are only allowed after 72 hours: [QUOTE=Nachoaddict wrote: I think Breezy and Asianspacemang (the guy who got banned for giving himself like +30 feedback) are the same person. For one according to people who traded with him, they have the same last name. First names are changed. Also, he could have bypassed the ban as I will show you now. I hid my last name by the way. These are messages he sent to me shortly after his ban. http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww73/nachoaddict/BreezyScammer.jpg Finally, this is his Facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1130170801 I know he posted a picture of himself on the UPSB headshots thread so you can look there and compare pictures and judge for yourself if they are the same person. Hope this helps. Also the fact he's selling the same mods over and over again? I highly doubt he has that many or he would've taken pictures of more than one no?
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 02:39:40
Tetsip says that there is a feature for issuing for a refund on paypal. I HIGHLY suggest anyone who has traded with him go and try to use that feature to the best of their ability NOW. The longer you wait the less chance you have of getting your money back.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 02:48:06
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 02:53:16
lucky for those people of paid instead of sending packages =[
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 02:59:11
I also think, but not 100% sure that Breezy could be asian.space.mang. About 8 months ago, I did a trade with him, on one of his accounts, and that was successful. He sent first, I received, I sent back. I'm pretty sure I remember the last name was Cabrera. Anyway, I'm doing a trade with Breezy that's been going on for like three months now, and I haven't received, but then again, I haven't lost anything. This isn't that helpful, but just felt like getting all the info we need out there.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 03:00:27
Riley wrote: I also think, but not 100% sure that Breezy could be asian.space.mang. About 8 months ago, I did a trade with him, on one of his accounts, and that was successful. He sent first, I received, I sent back. I'm pretty sure I remember the last name was Cabrera. Anyway, I'm doing a trade with Breezy that's been going on for like three months now, and I haven't received, but then again, I haven't lost anything. This isn't that helpful, but just felt like getting all the info we need out there.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 03:03:38
Oh well, think everything's in light now. Breezy care to explain, or is he gonna just leave it here?
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 03:04:43
Look at his profile page...He's gone bro. "I'm doing it because of upsb and the people in it. I'm not Black but they look down upon them. I can't do much but I'm doing something. I FUCKING hate upsb. All the racism and Shit, that's why I did it."
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 03:05:17
Riley wrote: I also think, but not 100% sure that Breezy could be asian.space.mang. About 8 months ago, I did a trade with him, on one of his accounts, and that was successful. He sent first, I received, I sent back. I'm pretty sure I remember the last name was Cabrera. Anyway, I'm doing a trade with Breezy that's been going on for like three months now, and I haven't received, but then again, I haven't lost anything. This isn't that helpful, but just felt like getting all the info we need out there.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 03:05:34
Nachoaddict wrote: I think Breezy and Asianspacemang (the guy who got banned for giving himself like +30 feedback) are the same person. For one according to people who traded with him, they have the same last name. First names are changed. Also, he could have bypassed the ban as I will show you now. I hid my last name by the way. These are messages he sent to me shortly after his ban. http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww73/nachoaddict/BreezyScammer.jpg Finally, this is his Facebook page. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1130170801 I know he posted a picture of himself on the UPSB headshots thread so you can look there and compare pictures and judge for yourself if they are the same person. Hope this helps. Also the fact he's selling the same mods over and over again? I highly doubt he has that many or he would've taken pictures of more than one no?
if only i had this conversation i would of known this was gona happen. i guees i was reamed in the ass this time. feels good tho cause he tricked every single person -
Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 03:40:36
If you payed through paypal it should be pretty easy to get your money back. Paypal's pretty harsh on sellers, and sides on the buyer.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 04:49:25
unless you sent the money via the business end of paypal, u cant get it back unless u say it was an unauthorized transaction... Bumps are only allowed after 72 hours: so 6 ppl got scammed by him? damn...
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 04:54:17
yes you can. If he provided zero tracking and a bunch of people file complaints at same time, paypal will side with him.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 04:57:20
Nachoaddict wrote: Look at his profile page...He's gone bro. "I'm doing it because of upsb and the people in it. I'm not Black but they look down upon them. I can't do much but I'm doing something. I FUCKING hate upsb. All the racism and Shit, that's why I did it."
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 05:02:14
uh...no, im saying that i paid him via the personal section...paypal wont let me dispute unless i say i didnt authorize it
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 05:08:07
again, there is did not authorize and did not receive . both are options regardless of personal or not.
FullmetalDra wrote: uh...no, im saying that i paid him via the personal section...paypal wont let me dispute unless i say i didnt authorize it
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 05:11:06
this is what pops up when i try to dispute the transaction: "We're sorry, but this transaction cannot be disputed because it is not a purchase of goods or services. Please contact the recipient directly."
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 05:21:19
what did you send payment for then? isn't it goods?
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 05:21:36
i thought pens = goods
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 05:23:24
sigh.. like i said earlier people build up their reputation and feedback, just to scam in the future.. for big things so did i get it right this time @DrakeOhMeteor007 ? would you like to challenge me again? PrinceXD
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 05:29:09
@PenwisH i sent it as "other" under the "Personal" tab, not as "goods" under the "purchase" tab. lesson learned =.=
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 05:32:54
yeah don't send under other/personal. Not only are the fees higher but you have protection . basically it's like hey dude here's 10$. instead of hey dude here's 10$ for pens. big difference in paypal's opinion. if i were you i'd file it under did not authorize anyways and see how it goes. can't hurt
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 05:45:48
Gosh gosh. We never know when people are scamming do we. Hope Breezy gets his retribution. From his profile he's going to the marines soon right? Hmmm... Then again as a first time trader this has greatly reduced any confidence I once had, lol.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 05:48:05
thats why you should trade with me~ /gg.. or just ask my buyers.. quality stuff HAHA PrinceXD
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 05:52:57
With 45USD gone I don't think it'd be that easy convincing my dad to use paypal to pay for pens already haha. But yep PrinceXD I do note that you have quite good reputation ^^
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 05:57:13
but remeber people build their reputation just to scam people haha.
NEWsgPS wrote: With 45USD gone I don't think it'd be that easy convincing my dad to use paypal to pay for pens already haha. But yep PrinceXD I do note that you have quite good reputation ^^
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 06:01:01
Yes that's right. So PrinceXD, I'm gonna have to keep an eye on you....just kidding :) Oh man, with this matter settled, I feel kind of bored now. As in, I was expecting something to come from Breezy lol. Now I have nothing to look forward to in terms of pens. Oh well time to go pen hunting forums :/
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 06:10:21
lols penwish. i'll probably scam for a jell.be.. thats the only pen i really want :P (and you know it HAHA) PrinceXD
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 09:52:44
ok, so i have not recieved my package from spiral and it has been 3 months, i gave him negative feedback because i havnt recieve, he gave me negative feedback after i gave him my feedback eventhough he recieved my package and he claims that i am not respecting his rules and is lying that i just want a second package from him, so how do i deal with this situation and which moderator can i report to?
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 10:00:49
newsgps.go to the singapore gathering thread.theres a grp pw order
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 10:02:40
@Spin4fun PrinceXD
Spin4fun wrote: ok, so i have not recieved my package from spiral and it has been 3 months, i gave him negative feedback because i havnt recieve, he gave me negative feedback after i gave him my feedback eventhough he recieved my package and he claims that i am not respecting his rules and is lying that i just want a second package from him, so how do i deal with this situation and which moderator can i report to?
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 10:03:52
When you trade with me, you obviously follow my rules which are :
Rules: if you have more WL than me, i send first, hope we can send at the same time if i have more WL than you, you send first. I will not be responsible for any lost of items in the mail Send cash at your own risk(i will not be responsible for it)
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 10:08:43
well so here is the proof, he didnt have the reciept. This was from a MSN covo between me and him, didnt have a reciept, didnt know how to print screen so i used snipping tool.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 10:15:46
@Spiral Spin4fun is correct here. You should have received a receipt for proof of purchase (in this case, the purchase of a service) If you did not obtain one, and did not specifically asked for one, it's really your fault here. It's one method to proof you've sent. PrinceXD
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 10:17:18
Yes, you can ask with all people I traded with, they never got a receipt from me ... And I'm pretty sure that you've received and you want a second package because you think that the first isn't enough. Btw, you're liying, you're not waiting for 3 month.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 10:33:45
not 3 months? tell me the time i have been waiting, it should be here in a few weeks, and now even stuff from canada is here but not yours. Can you explain? no reciept, no proof that i have gotten the package and now tell me how long i have been waiting for? I will not start a flame here and will wait for the mod to settle this, just tell me how long i have been waiting.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 10:36:47
he hasnt received the package.i can verify that he isnt the kind hu will do this type of thing. you're the one asking for multiple packages from different people, all of which having almost the same pens. at least refund 50%. a 50usd trade is a lot and he has more feedback,y did he send first?
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 10:52:50
So, I sent exactly june 10th and you KNOW it so stop liying ... All the world can claim that he haven't received, you're not a proof. And please, just for once, say the TRUE price, obviously he hasn't paid 50usd for the pens he sent me ... otherwise it would have been cheaper to order from Penwish. And he sent first because he had less feedback than me.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 11:01:24
ok i dont noe how much the exact trade was but it was quite expensive.im not saying u havent sent(am i contradicting myself?), but i just think it would be fair to refund him half. im not lying,he hasnt received, and dont go shitting saying im in this with him.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 11:06:14
it was about 50 usd including packaging, so what if its sent on that date, i shouldve recieved like in 2 weeks, yes you had more feedback because it was my first trade. you dont have a reciept and thats all that matter. you can find excuses for all you want and i will just wait for the mod to handle this.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 11:21:26
Obviously it wasn't 50usd, otherwise it would have been cheaper to order on Penwish, so please stop liying and say the TRUE price ...
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 11:29:38
lol to think that i actually trusted you breezy. D: im such a fool.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 11:40:16
@Spin4fun Ok basically I lost track. But like I mentioned previously. Spiral you should have a receipt.. this is not for anyone else but for your own safety. Having a receipt proofs that you did send. If you don't have it, you're pretty much asking for trouble yourself. Now that you cant proof that you sent. No one can proof if Spin4fun received or not too. But then again, because you failed to present a receipt.. The burden is on your side. So.. you guys have 2 ways to solve it. 1) Trust each other that the package is sent, and is lost during the mail. Both parties pay 50% of the loss. 2) Take the negative feedback and do nothing. Because you also failed to proof you sent the package, you probably cant give negative feedback backward. So how much does your feedback cost? That is the question. PrinceXD p.s. or let iMatt solve it.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 11:42:07
Spiral wrote: Obviously it wasn't 50usd, otherwise it would have been cheaper to order on Penwish, so please stop liying and say the TRUE price ...
lol ok, 3 french dr grips, 3 super pirats, 8 reynold caps, which was what you were supposed to send plus the price of the package i sent that was about $7, if you want the true price why not you tell me? stop making this an excuse. Even if the price was lower, i still have not recieved my package so whats the point of argueing? -
Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 11:45:35
@Colin decide. PrinceXD
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 12:05:26
PrinceXD wrote: @Spin4fun Ok basically I lost track. But like I mentioned previously. Spiral you should have a receipt.. this is not for anyone else but for your own safety. Having a receipt proofs that you did send. If you don't have it, you're pretty much asking for trouble yourself. Now that you cant proof that you sent. No one can proof if Spin4fun received or not too. But then again, because you failed to present a receipt.. The burden is on your side. So.. you guys have 2 ways to solve it. 1) Trust each other that the package is sent, and is lost during the mail. Both parties pay 50% of the loss. 2) Take the negative feedback and do nothing. Because you also failed to proof you sent the package, you probably cant give negative feedback backward. So how much does your feedback cost? That is the question. PrinceXD p.s. or let iMatt solve it.
ill wait for iMatt :) or take 1. He had no loss, he recieved my package. I would agree 50% to me but he wont accept. -
Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 12:10:29
Honestly, I believe Spiral and Spin4fun are both being truthful. I believe this is just a unfortunate shipping mishap. Several things to keep in mind 1.)Price of shipping varies a LOT from country to country. Registering package in asia is relatively inexpensive. Registering packages in USA/Europe is a total ripoff. If I wanted to put tracking on a package, it's min 14$ + the cost of the actual postage 2.) Stuff does get lost from time to time. Even if you have beautiful hand writing with perfect packaging there's still a chance it may get lost There is really no right or wrong in this situation. you two need to work it out as I don't believe either is lying. I have lost a few packages over the year and I've always had to resend but shops are always different from trades. Some sellers have specific rules that you must take into account when trading. Hope you both work it out.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 12:37:17
OK if i did get scammed by breezy i would only loose 15 cuz i ordered twice from him. Once he sent about 2 weeks ago which i think i will get here. Worst case scenario is i loses 50, doesn't bother me. Ill just get it back by paypal refraction.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 12:41:22
@Breezy nigger.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 12:42:39
wow don't be mean to breezy. i still give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 12:48:57
That's kind of optimistic... In any case, my dad told me that Breezy had his money withdrawn from paypal already. I don't think he can have negative amount of money.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 13:08:57
Spin4fun, what I sent you is : 3 dr grips, 4 super pirats and 4 094, to solve the problem, I think I can send you another package with 50% of the value, hope we can talk about that on msn.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 13:16:19
always good to hear two people work it out. Hope it goes well
Spiral wrote: Spin4fun, what I sent you is : 3 dr grips, 4 super pirats and 4 094, to solve the problem, I think I can send you another package with 50% of the value, hope we can talk about that on msn.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 13:43:04
@PenwisH Have you read my email?
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 13:53:57
The first time I sent him 3 dr grip, 4 094 and 4 super pirats, and I offered him to send 4 094 and 2 super pirats. He didn't agree, so I tryied to solve the problem.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 13:56:06
It takes 3-5 working days for the payment to process.. PrinceXD
NEWsgPS wrote: That's kind of optimistic... In any case, my dad told me that Breezy had his money withdrawn from paypal already. I don't think he can have negative amount of money.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 13:56:10
1 dr grip, 2 094 and 2 super pirat and he didnt agree.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 13:59:07
@PrinceXD I'm not sure, that's what my dad said...
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 14:15:13
If he's withdrawing from his paypal balance, it will take 3-5 days. if his credit card is connected to his paypal, he wouldnt have paypal balance anyways. Hence no need to withdraw. Besides, this is criminal act. If paypal does indeed intend to do something (or if one of u guys that got scammed do something), they can get breezy easily. PrinceXD
NEWsgPS wrote: I'm not sure, that's what my dad said...
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 14:18:41
To all those that got scammed by Breezy, I hope this serves as a lesson to you guys that before you do trades, you cannot just go solely on feedback when it comes to trust. If I were you, I would do extensive research on whom I am dealing with. I would have never bought/traded with Breezy before this dilemma based solely on his conduct and the way he is. Do as much research as you can on the person before going through with trade. I remember that my first trade with a French trader (seindfu), I had no idea what to do. My main concern as being my first trade was, "OH SHIT. I HOPE NOTHING GETS LOST. CAN I TRUST THE SYSTEM? Is this guys not a scammer)." Soooo then I did research. Obviously I did not have to do much simply due to the amount of feedback he had and he was someone I trusted. Also, this trade took like 3 months to complete on both sides. I sent first because it was my first trade, though the trade was not very significant, prolly spent $5.00 at most. Basically what I'm saying is... Know the people you trade or deal with. Then comes the concern of people building up feedback to eventually scam people hehehe... Don't trade with me in the future ;) jk. Know your people.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 14:31:51
Tetsip wrote: To all those that got scammed by Breezy, I hope this serves as a lesson to you guys that before you do trades, you cannot just go solely on feedback when it comes to trust. If I were you, I would do extensive research on whom I am dealing with. I would have never bought/traded with Breezy before this dilemma based solely on his conduct and the way he is. Do as much research as you can on the person before going through with trade. I remember that my first trade with a French trader (seindfu), I had no idea what to do. My main concern as being my first trade was, "OH SHIT. I HOPE NOTHING GETS LOST. CAN I TRUST THE SYSTEM? Is this guys not a scammer)." Soooo then I did research. Obviously I did not have to do much simply due to the amount of feedback he had. I sent first because it was my first trade, though the trade was not very significant, prolly spent $5.00 at most. Basically what I'm saying is... Know the people you trade or deal with. Then comes the concern of people building up feedback to eventually scam people hehehe... Don't trade with me in the future ;) jk. Know your people.
I have traded with him b4 so I know he won't scam. Unlike the others, it's their first time. Like I said I don't care if I get scammed. U don't see there's a lesson for me but the others there is. I agree with you but I won't be affected cuz I was the furst person to buy from his new thread so I am probably not affected greatly. For the others however you should really do sone research talk to other traders bout that traders, find some people who have experience. If I were you I would say trade people that has Bren on for at least 10 months. -
Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 14:48:26
@Spin4fun @ Spin4fun, I will remove that negative feedback since you provided visual proof of no confirmation of sending. You should've reported the problem about (2) months ago. If you wait more than one month for a package and receive no shipping confirmation proof from the sender, then he's on grounds for negative feedback. @ Spiral, If you do not have proof of sending (Shipping receipt declaring you sent the package at the time you declared) you will receive a negative feedback since there is discrepancy within the trade. Your rules: if you have more WL than me, i send first, hope we can send at the same time if i have more WL than you, you send first. I will not be responsible for any lost of items in the mail Send cash at your own risk(i will not be responsible for it) "I will not be responsible for any lost of items in the mail." That rule only applies if you can provide PROOF of shipping. Since you cannot provide that, this rule is completely bunk. Remember guys, whenever you're doing trade. ALWAYS ask for a shipping receipt. These exact situations can arise.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 14:51:55
iMatt wrote: @Spin4fun @ Spin4fun, I will remove that negative feedback since you provided visual proof of no confirmation of sending. You should've reported the problem about (2) months ago. If you wait more than one month for a package and not receive no shipping confirmation proof from the sender, then he's on grounds for negative feedback. Your rules: if you have more WL than me, i send first, hope we can send at the same time if i have more WL than you, you send first. I will not be responsible for any lost of items in the mail Send cash at your own risk(i will not be responsible for it) "I will not be responsible for any lost of items in the mail." That rule only applies if you can provide PROOF of shipping. Since you cannot provide that, this rule is completely bunk. @ Spiral, If you do not have proof of sending (Shipping receipt declaring you sent the package at the time you declared) you will receive a negative feedback since there is discrepancy within the trade. Remember guys, whenever you're doing trade. ALWAYS ask for a shipping receipt. These exact situations can arise.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 17:48:48
DrakeOhMeteor007 wrote: I have traded with him b4 so I know he won't scam. Unlike the others, it's their first time. Like I said I don't care if I get scammed. U don't see there's a lesson for me but the others there is. I agree with you but I won't be affected cuz I was the furst person to buy from his new thread so I am probably not affected greatly. For the others however you should really do sone research talk to other traders bout that traders, find some people who have experience. If I were you I would say trade people that has Bren on for at least 10 months.
lol the irony, didnt u tell people on sb tat breezy is trustworthy cause u traded with him 3 times -
Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 18:27:43
And everyone, if something "sounds" too good to be true, it probably is. When this happens you need to proceed with extreme caution.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 19:15:31
Just remember, people who demand money first regardless of feedback are a bit suspicious. Be smart about it, do background checks.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 19:21:48
well not really, the general rule for selling is buyer sends first. its more in the buyers to think before buying from somebody who doesnt have that much feedback. I find its okay to be a bit more lenient on that if they're an old member who comes back to sell away their pens (i.e. I bought from k2 back in v3), even then they should have a decent amount of feedback
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 19:44:09
MrCraziBaby wrote: That's kind of optimistic... In any case, my dad told me that Breezy had his money withdrawn from paypal already. I don't think he can have negative amount of money.
not true, he can get negative on his account. and its possible that paypal can get the money from his account even if his withdrawn. -
Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 22:47:47
i got scammed by breezy for about $13 this is the 2nd time I have got scammed on upsb. Fuck trading. Breezy is asian-space-mang, he is also roy. He sent money to me on paypal first so I thought he wouldn't scam this time, but I decided to send him my mods, plus his money. Fucking hell.
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Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 23:07:41
To those who have been scammed; Write a letter addressed to Mr/Mrs (scammer's last name). Inside the letter, politely explain the situation and bring attention to the loss it means to you. Hopefully his parents will rectify the situation. All it will cost you is a stamp and a few minutes to write out a letter. Its worth a shot at least. Or you can do the Christian thing and forgive him.
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Date: Thu, Jul 28 2011 02:00:28
Hmmm, I'm not sure about paypal things. Regardless, any victims who successfully receive their money back, please tell us how you did it! Thanks.
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Date: Thu, Jul 28 2011 02:08:29
MrCraziBaby wrote: Hmmm, I'm not sure about paypal things. Regardless, any victims who successfully receive their money back, please tell us how you did it! Thanks.
If you sent the money in the mail, you can pretty much kiss it goodbye <_< If you used Paypal, file a complaint If you sent a package to him with UPS, if it wasn't delivered yet you can do what I did and call them and ask them to freeze the package and send it back, but you will have to go to the UPS store and verify that it's yours (NOTE: you will have to pay for shipping to send it back >.<) If you sent a package to him with USPS, if it hasn't already got there you can call them -
Date: Thu, Jul 28 2011 02:49:48
how much is a green waterfall with a superlavable body worth?
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Date: Thu, Jul 28 2011 03:01:20
Awesome wrote: To those who have been scammed; Write a letter addressed to Mr/Mrs (scammer's last name). Inside the letter, politely explain the situation and bring attention to the loss it means to you. Hopefully his parents will rectify the situation. All it will cost you is a stamp and a few minutes to write out a letter. Its worth a shot at least. Or you can do the Christian thing and forgive him.
+1 Also, I have nothing to complain of Breezy. Bought an MX for 10 bucks, asked for a refund of 5$. Only asked for half the money back, and i got to keep the MX + make 5 bucks. If anything, Im rooting for Breezy /notreally -
Date: Thu, Jul 28 2011 03:12:54
Colin wrote: +1 Also, I have nothing to complain of Breezy. Bought an MX for 10 bucks, asked for a refund of 5$. Only asked for half the money back, and i got to keep the MX + make 5 bucks. If anything, Im rooting for Breezy /notreally
Well the fact is, quite a number of us got scammed by Breezy, and the fact remains that he scammed us. Through seemingly good trades such as refunding, he is able to build up his rep a little with prominent traders on UPSB, and therefore use the rep to pull off his scam. -
Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 01:03:45
lol i knew breezy was trying to scam since he posted that "i am leaving UPSB" blah blah blah (refer to my comment i posted there) and yes breezy is Roy, asian-space-mang, Iam-still-here and about 10 other accounts he was probably banned more than 10 times i think Im guessing hes gonna be back again with some other name lol i warned u guys about Breezy didnt I ~(-_-)~
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 02:09:21
Why didn't you report him to a mod? Theaafg says you knew too.
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 02:42:34
i got him banned already like 5 times before, thought he learned his lesson cuz he was doing just fine for the first few months
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 04:47:28
Soooo... let's just say that Breezy comes back as another guy, with no intent of scamming, all clean. Do we give him another chance, or do we ban him again for his past actions? Even if he seems like he's clean, he's banned for a reason, so he doesn't come back. If he creates another account and we let him, then whats the point of the ban?
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 04:51:11
Even if he's clean, he hasn't been punished for the scam. I don't know about if he actually repays everyone and apologizes and does a lot to get forgiveness but if he's just like "hey guys I'm Breezy sorry bout the scam lol. BTW I'm not racist nor black!" then I have absolutely no remorse for him.
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 05:05:35
That's exactly my point. Even if he comes clean, his punishment is getting banned. If he comes back and you just let him in, that kinda bypasses the point.
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 05:35:01
Which is why this could have been completely avoided if someone who knew ahead of time had reported him to a mod. He might still come back but he'd have to start over again and possibly give up. Sorry theaafg but I don't feel sorry that you got scammed considering you knew the whole time :/
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 05:59:29
Wait, wut? Theaafg knew, and still got scammed?
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 06:05:22
Cloud wrote: Wait, wut? Theaafg knew, and still got scammed?
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 07:06:08
maybe should ban his ip add. ~_~
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 07:09:00
He changed it multiple times because he WAS ip banned
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 07:48:07
so there is no choice but to let him in. :facepalm:
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 15:04:20
@Zombo please can we have his e-mail address that he used to access the forum. I oath till the day I die I WILL hack his address and fuck some shit up, somehow. On that note has anyone tried contacting him on Facebook? His name was Roy Cabrera.. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1130170801
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 16:56:22
Vaan wrote: so there is no choice but to let him in. :facepalm:
Yes. But the amount of damage he can cause is much more limited when he has no feedback and hopefully someone can catch him before he gets people to trust him. -
Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 17:00:48
Nachoaddict wrote: Yes. But the amount of damage he can cause is much more limited when he has no feedback and hopefully someone can catch him before he gets people to trust him.
we have to watch for signs though and as @strat1227 said, he acted like an old timer a day after joining -
Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 17:14:22
... how do you act like an old timer? like not spam? ._.
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 17:20:28
Apho wrote: ... how do you act like an old timer? like not spam? ._.
Know more information on pen spinning then a noob would ? Idk -
Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 17:20:53
Strat said he acted like someone who had gotten banned...
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 17:29:20
this should be posted somewhere else lol not many ppl read the sticky section
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 18:04:34
Yeah guys it's a hard road to walk ... When he joined he knew a lot more about PS than a noob would, he acted in the shoutbox like someone who had been banned and made a new account (he acted like he already knew people), and I posted about it in the mod's forums, but none of those things are a reason to ban people. It was just a hunch so I couldn't really do anything about it, his IP didn't match up (he was using a proxy the whole time), and there was no concrete proof. So essentially all we can do is add people to our "watched users" list and keep track of them, which we did. This weekend though we will be releasing a "Blacklist" which is essentially a surefire way to make sure you'e not trading with a known scammer. Obviously if they've never scammed before then we can't guess who they are, but this will prevent repeat offenders. Secondly, I STRONGLY suggest only having 1 trade at a time with anyone who hasn't been here for literally years. If someone who joined 6 months ago has 9 trades going at once, odds are they're a scammer. For scams to work they have to do all the trades at once, and most of the time people less than one year old (to the community) don't have many trades at once. So if you see in they're thready they're already doing a trade, do NOT trade until that one ends. Anyway, not much could have been done (unless people knew he was a second account, in which case you should IMMEDIATELY report it, there's a reason that's not allowed), but there were definitely signs and lessons we can learn.
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 18:26:34
This seems a bit extreme... I haven't been here years, as well as a large number of the newer generation spinners. I've had up to 5 trades at once, didn't scam anyone. I think it's more about how he trades. Note that he bought random mods, some that nobody else was interested in. Then, when he opens a thread, he says you have to send first, regardless of feedback. I know that the "buyer pays first" rule has become quite popular, but when I offered to trade with him, he still insisted that I send first. THAT, should raise some flags. He also spammed UPSB like hell. It seemed like he was just trying to gain post count, to prove that he was here to stay. I've also noticed, beware of quitting sales, especially the ones with AMAZING deals. They do that to get as many buyers at once, in order to scam the maximum amount of people before getting banned. Since a person is quitting, they might be a douche bag and decide that the UPSB feedback doesn't mean shit anymore. So, they scam for money, while still keeping their mods. I thought that it was strange that he would want to delete his UPSB account. Most people just leave and never come back. That was pretty stupid on his part. Specifically, if you look at how Breezy scammed, he had some strange patterns. He bought a bunch of mods, only to put them on sale for CHEAPER than he got them only about 2 weeks later. He tried to cover that up with the quitting thing, but if you planned on possibly quitting soon, why would you buy a bunch of pens in the first place. Also, while he spammed UPSB, he never posted pics about pens that he made. He wasn't into the pen spinning world, only spammed stuff, like saying "nice combo" or "cool mod". He didn't actually say anything really useful. I mean, if you're on UPSB that much, I'd expect you to be crazy about spinning or making mods. I had suspicions that he might be a scammer, but I couldn't just condemn him. However, unlike some people, I didn't know that he was Asian-space-mang. It would be pretty embarrassing if he wasn't. I would be pretty pissed if some guy just started rumors that I was a scammer. About 2 days later, people start putting together the pieces, proving that he was a scammer. Watch for suspicious behavior, like increasing post count unnecessarily, quitting sales, and the "YOU SEND FIRST." IMO, the lower feedback sends first rule is much better and safer. If someone tells you to send first, even on a trade, regardless of feedback, be careful. Ask them why they want you to send first. I didn't get scammed by Breezy, but it kinda bugs me that he scammed so many people, yet it could have been prevented. EDIT: @strat1227 I'm not on your watchlist because of the amounts of trades and the number of posts, am I?
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 18:27:54
i fully support the idea of public black list. PrinceXD
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 18:50:10
I think every time a trade is in progress, a post needs to be made in both trader's threads. That way, we can keep track if someone is doing multiple trades at once.
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 18:59:07
good idea, but hard to get everyone doing it. besides.. theres a 72hr bump system.. so that means u cant really post again within 72hrs (although u could edit... LOL) also.. this got me thinking.. how do u actually define a scammer? what gets them into the "watch list"? number of negatives? or what? i can have lots of unsuccessful trades and not intend to scam.. or i can have lots of positive feedbacks intended to scam in future.. PrinceXD
hoiboy wrote: I think every time a trade is in progress, a post needs to be made in both trader's threads. That way, we can keep track if someone is doing multiple trades at once.
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 20:48:16
Breezy left me a positive feedback in the trade, is it still valid? I did do my half of the deal, but for the circumstances for myself I would find it invalid. That kinda annoys me more than losing the money. He is the only feedback I have. To be honest, I only traded due to me wanting to build some rep. Brilliant.
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 20:49:43
Wisp wrote: Breezy left me a positive feedback in the trade, is it still valid? I did do my half of the deal, but for the circumstances for myself I would find it invalid. That kinda annoys me more than losing the money. He is the only feedback I have. To be honest, I only traded due to me wanting to build some rep. Brilliant.
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 21:00:09
having addresses is somewhat of an invasion of privacy even if there is scamming going on. I am 100% for a blacklist thread that includes Home number and Zipcode, country. so for example if i was deemed a "Scammer" My address Penwish 1729 windward ave naperville, Il 60563, USA We can have a database that lists Home number:1729 Zip:60563 Country:USA That way before you make a trade, you can look up the "blacklist" and see if any of the address details match. We won't have the whole address so it's not like we are trying to get them spammed or whatnot. It will just be a nice friendly checker that will allow people to match up numbers. If there is a SLIVER of a chance that the same address has the exact same numbers you can always send mods an email to double check the address. We will have a complete address list with the full address (the mods will) and we can help confirm yeh or neh. Just a thought. We will have to somehow confirm that it is a full-out scam.
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Date: Fri, Jul 29 2011 21:03:42
Also add facebook, msn, email if they have it..? im sure people wont mind adding another friend anyways.. unless he plans to scam PrinceXD
PenwisH wrote: having addresses is somewhat of an invasion of privacy even if there is scamming going on. I am 100% for a blacklist thread that includes Home number and Zipcode, country. so for example if i was deemed a "Scammer" My address Penwish 1729 windward ave naperville, Il 60563, USA We can have a database that lists Home number:1729 Zip:60563 Country:USA That way before you make a trade, you can look up the "blacklist" and see if any of the address details match. We won't have the whole address so it's not like we are trying to get them spammed or whatnot. It will just be a nice friendly checker that will allow people to match up numbers. If there is a SLIVER of a chance that the same address has the exact same numbers you can always send mods an email to double check the address. We will have a complete address list with the full address (the mods will) and we can help confirm yeh or neh. Just a thought. We will have to somehow confirm that it is a full-out scam.
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Date: Sun, Jul 31 2011 20:20:35
A new member joined named Breezer... PW banned him. EDIT: @PenwisH I think you banned a legit guy. http://www.psws-blog.de/2011/07/31/d...s-etc/?lang=en credits to Baaron
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Date: Sun, Jul 31 2011 20:47:56
NO!! @PenwisH I think you banned a legit guy. http://www.psws-blog.de/2011/07/31/d...s-etc/?lang=en credits to Baaron[/QUOTE] meh I knew/checked before.
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Date: Mon, Aug 1 2011 02:30:43
its possible to remake msn's, emails, etc. it would b better to target the guy's paypal name imo
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Date: Mon, Aug 1 2011 03:04:28
and then more people creating accs called: Breezing, Breezah, The Breeze, Mr.Breezy, Breezy *insert something here*. :P Frog~
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Date: Mon, Aug 1 2011 03:17:18
Cloud wrote: A new member joined named Breezer... PW banned him. EDIT: @PenwisH I think you banned a legit guy. http://www.psws-blog.de/2011/07/31/d...s-etc/?lang=en credits to Baaron
i dont see hows hes breezy. He speaks german, fleunetly. Also he has an account on GPC and htat acount was created 27th of october 2010. I dont think hes breezy -
Date: Mon, Aug 1 2011 03:20:36
well i was imed by someone that he was breezy. I will reverse the infractions if that's the case. Bad time to register under anything similar to breezy
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Date: Mon, Aug 1 2011 03:25:43
unbanned. next time people need to be sure people are sure scammer before pming mods lol. i should have done some more research tho=(
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Date: Mon, Aug 1 2011 03:29:12
That guy was probably like "WTF!!!!!!!!!! I got banned by some dickhead for no reason!!!!!!!!!!"
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Date: Mon, Aug 1 2011 03:33:32
lol if he was here the last 2 weeks. anything that has "breeze" in it is synonymous with scammer
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Date: Mon, Aug 1 2011 04:26:43
Wisp wrote: @Zombo please can we have his e-mail address that he used to access the forum. I oath till the day I die I WILL hack his address and fuck some shit up, somehow. On that note has anyone tried contacting him on Facebook? His name was Roy Cabrera.. http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1130170801
A long time ago, when I did a trade with him on one of his accounts, his email was [email][email protected][/email] though I'm not sure if he still uses that at all. -
Date: Mon, Aug 1 2011 04:45:57
seriously tho, i doubt he would use a name similar to his last one, unless he's really that stupid
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Date: Mon, Aug 1 2011 05:39:28
Or he can play smart and make u think that way. Frog~
Noodles wrote: seriously tho, i doubt he would use a name similar to his last one, unless he's really that stupid
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Date: Mon, Aug 1 2011 08:00:24
the world may never know...until he attempt to strike again lol
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Date: Mon, Aug 1 2011 18:07:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsqs9upyyE&feature=player_embedded "I didn't want to do it" pfft you did it before, this isn't the first time :facepalm: and he says he was sick of the racism and that he was "trying to change us" like scamming is going to change anything but our opinion of him
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Date: Tue, Aug 2 2011 22:29:46
Lol. And he still questioned my nationality, because he thought Asians couldn't speak good English -.-
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Date: Sun, Aug 7 2011 01:36:02
which one worth more columb g3 or key 3 g3? @Nachoaddict
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Date: Tue, Aug 9 2011 23:32:29
Key3 -> Tapliclip Coulomb -> Hi-Tec-C which one worth more? I would say Key3. Frog~
DrakeOhMeteor007 wrote: which one worth more columb g3 or key 3 g3? @Nachoaddict
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Date: Fri, Aug 12 2011 17:58:46
How much are RSVP Colors worth?
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Date: Fri, Aug 12 2011 18:03:37
$1-2 I think PW has em around $2.
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Date: Thu, Aug 25 2011 01:48:17
PenwisH wrote: having addresses is somewhat of an invasion of privacy even if there is scamming going on. I am 100% for a blacklist thread that includes Home number and Zipcode, country. so for example if i was deemed a "Scammer" My address Penwish 1729 windward ave naperville, Il 60563, USA We can have a database that lists Home number:1729 Zip:60563 Country:USA That way before you make a trade, you can look up the "blacklist" and see if any of the address details match. We won't have the whole address so it's not like we are trying to get them spammed or whatnot. It will just be a nice friendly checker that will allow people to match up numbers. If there is a SLIVER of a chance that the same address has the exact same numbers you can always send mods an email to double check the address. We will have a complete address list with the full address (the mods will) and we can help confirm yeh or neh. Just a thought. We will have to somehow confirm that it is a full-out scam.
PENWISH YOUR A MOD MAKE THIS THREAD PLOXPLOXPLOX @PenwisH -
Date: Sat, Sep 3 2011 02:35:15
mesi g3 for turndont g3. Is it fair?
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Date: Sun, Sep 4 2011 00:32:33
how much are spoko grips worth ??? :P
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Date: Sun, Sep 4 2011 01:53:08
How about mods store blacklisted addresses in a database only they can see. Users can search it for specific parts of an address, like name, street #, or just zip code. If it's a scammer's address it'll turn up the previous usernames of the scammer and maybe also threads linked to the incidents, but it won't show the complete address to anybody who doesn't already have it. It's better than simply posting people's addresses online for everybody to see.
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Date: Mon, Sep 5 2011 11:31:48
delete this please
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Date: Mon, Oct 10 2011 05:30:25
How much does Esquisse ultra lavables or s777 MX real cap worth? 1x Esquisse ultra lavables : 1x PC2 + 1x Jimnie 1x Esquisse ultra lavables : 1x Nextage 1x Esquisse ultra lavables : 2x PDS black comssa caps (hexagonal) Is that fair? It doesn't seem to me the pen Esquisse ultra lavables cost as much as 1 PC2+1 Jimnie or a Nextage. =.=
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Date: Mon, Oct 10 2011 05:55:03
Depends on what you paid for them I think if you're the one who has them. I have almost never seen those up for sale or trade so they are quite uncommon. That's probably the reason for their mysterious trade value. Unless a lot of people in FPSB have them or a lot of people in some other board. I think it really depends on how much you want for them and how much the other person is willing to give for them as well as if you can get more of them easily.
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Date: Mon, Oct 10 2011 08:37:06
Nachoaddict wrote: Depends on what you paid for them I think if you're the one who has them. I have almost never seen those up for sale or trade so they are quite uncommon. That's probably the reason for their mysterious trade value. Unless a lot of people in FPSB have them or a lot of people in some other board. I think it really depends on how much you want for them and how much the other person is willing to give for them as well as if you can get more of them easily.
I see. I appreciate your reply. There should be quite many frenchs in this board that have access to the Esquisse ultra lavables packs because i asked few of the french traders in this board, most of them can access to the packs. Well i made a lot of adjustments from the experiences of previous trade to make the trade fair for both sides. I did offer some limited access items in return like metallic gel or other japanese and chinese stuff when asked but some pens are just too costly to be 1(eg. nextage) for 1 or 2(pc2+jimnie) for 1 as the Esquisse ultra lavable is not discontinued. -
Date: Thu, Nov 3 2011 05:27:58
How much does a color express pack cost?
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Date: Thu, Nov 3 2011 05:46:29
trade value maybe 10-20$ actual cost 5-10$
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Date: Thu, Nov 3 2011 06:01:26
thanks @PenwisH, but why is the trade value so high?
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Date: Thu, Nov 3 2011 06:08:35
any pen that can only be bought in 1-3 countries value will be high
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Date: Wed, Nov 9 2011 02:07:11
how much is a 2009 PDS case worth?
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Date: Wed, Nov 23 2011 03:06:26
How much is a firefly g3 worth? a well modded 1 How much is a dc black f3000? @PenwisH
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Date: Sun, Jan 8 2012 23:17:21
how much is a seven mod (all original) worth? @Nachoaddict
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Date: Sun, Jan 8 2012 23:20:07
If it's the white and black version generally they are $35 to $45 or around there depending on the quality of the mod.
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Date: Sun, Jan 8 2012 23:20:19
hoiboy wrote: how much is a seven mod (all original) worth? @Nachoaddict
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Date: Sun, Jan 8 2012 23:21:32
Oh I thought he was talking about watercolor >_< If it's the g3 and it uses signo pastel and modding is good, $25-30. Pw doesn't use signo pastel.
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Date: Sun, Jan 8 2012 23:22:49
wellmodded from a famous modder 30-35. normal one well modded 25-30 f3000 is rare but only select few want it. no more than 20
Abyss wrote: How much is a firefly g3 worth? a well modded 1 How much is a dc black f3000? @PenwisH
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Date: Sun, Jan 8 2012 23:23:35
true. although broad honestly looks better=p
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Date: Sun, Jan 8 2012 23:25:55
PenwisH wrote: true. although broad honestly looks better=p
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Date: Sun, Jan 8 2012 23:41:12
@PenwisH Isn't F3000 the cheap one that comes with only 1 black or red cap while purchasing from market? I thought 3000F was the really rare one with red/blue double caps. IIRC, F3000 is about 5-10 USD per mod. And 3000F is the one with 25-30 USD price.
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Date: Tue, Jan 10 2012 23:33:55
Pink cartoon Comssa anything special? Or same price as normal one?
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Date: Mon, Jan 16 2012 18:08:54
Cost of a red tornado mod in USD?
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Date: Mon, Jan 16 2012 18:12:06
If I remember correctly reds are a tad harder to obtain than blacks and blues so I'd say $9-12
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Date: Mon, Jan 16 2012 19:18:11
urm...my fren trade with me with a lot of pen: [SPOILER="thing he gave for trade"]White Comssa Marker Black Cap x2 UPSB Custom RSVP- Red x1 Uni Signo Broad White x1 Ohto Needlepoint Pen- METAL x1 Zebra Jimnie Black x1 Lakubo Ballpoint Pen- Blue x1 Zebra Hyper Jell Blue-Gray x1 Sky Blue Ring Hoops x1 Stabilo Trio Cap x1 Inoxcrom Slick Gel x1 Yellow Ring Hoops x1 Pentel Hybrid Gel Grip HGG RED x1 G3 plastic Tip x1 Gripmatic x1 Jap Dr Grip x2 HGG lumi Pink x1 g3 barrel x2 luminious paper x1 Reynold 094 x2 Superpirat x1 anyball pink x1 anyball black x1 1 purple ring x2 RSVP GREEN WIF BLACK INKTUBE x1 Signo knock black x1 Comssa barrel white x1 Hybrid Gel Grip Pastel Purple x1[/SPOILER] with [SPOILER="mine"]KuZu, Waterfall, Key3, 2wopex and 2bictory[/SPOILER] worth?
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Date: Mon, Jan 16 2012 19:58:40
How much is a M and M body? and Value of HAL KT?
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Date: Mon, Jan 16 2012 20:56:26
M&M body is 8-12 depending on from who. HAL kt if uses M&M rubbed probably 40. white AC. probably 25-30
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Date: Fri, Jan 20 2012 03:48:11
@spinner127 claims that I'm scamming him. Here is the chatlog that I've copied from facebook messager: http://www.mediafire.com/?53q43izii8kjcgj And here are the 3 photos that he claim "proof" (I have reupload them to my photobucket to make it viewable): http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af250/PrinceXDProduction/Random%20-%20TEST/406636_235972569813621_100002026393037_505317_834547732_n.jpg http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af250/PrinceXDProduction/Random%20-%20TEST/404766_235973949813483_100002026393037_505318_754264693_n.jpg http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af250/PrinceXDProduction/Random%20-%20TEST/399992_235967373147474_100002026393037_505313_1272264022_n.jpg In short, here are the details: - He wants 1 Red HGG Grip, 1 Bell-SSa, 1 Airfit Grip, sending me 10AUD via mail for them. - He claims that he have sent at 16th Jan, post office have tracked that says arrived to my home at 18th. But I received nothing. - So I said I'll attempt to trace it down for him. However, he only gave me those pics, the mailing company he uses (Fast Way NZ (?)) + phone number, his name and the reference number for his phone call inquiry - I asked for his address, and tracking number on how he traced the package.. and also the receipt to the service he paid. He claims confidential and unable to provide the receipt (the receipt he provided is a bank deposit, which i cant read the rest of the stuff) So there you have it. Please judge whether its me scamming him, or he trying to scam me. Frog~ p.s. after copying to the word doc, he just said he will contact the cops too~ awesome. edit: attaching a new pic for his response after i gave him the link to show i've posted on UPSB: http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af250/PrinceXDProduction/Random%20-%20TEST/naise.jpg
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Date: Fri, Jan 20 2012 04:11:57
i not scaming him im just asking why my product arent sent yet i sent him the money what mr wong say i ahvent i can put clery photos of all the procuts up tomorrow thank spinner 127 someone u can trust
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Date: Fri, Jan 20 2012 04:25:01
spinner127 Can you post picture of a receipt or show proof of tracking. Tracking codes are not confidential and should be and can be used by anyone. Once we see proof of shipment to Frog then we can move on further from here. Frog has the benefit from being a 100% feedback member so usually that carries more weight but please upload picture of shipment and we can then determine the next steps from there. thanks PW
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Date: Fri, Jan 20 2012 04:33:58
try posting a more clear picture. it could be a receipts from McDonalds since we can't really see anything. thanks for trying to work it out probably just a misunderstanding hopefully you guys can work it out
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Date: Fri, Jan 20 2012 04:44:36
I call bullshit.
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Date: Fri, Jan 20 2012 04:53:09
lol I read the whole FB story http://www.mediafire.com/?53q43izii8kjcgj
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Date: Fri, Jan 20 2012 16:56:34
Well this is my first step against Krypton, ah poor boy trying to scam new users like me (i have registered 1 month ago). Ok, he said he could buy namae packs (x3 namae each packet) brand new from daiso shop. All right! I did the paypal transfer, and a week later I did recieve it. But.. both pack were previously opened (strange, i though customs at a first instance) and ALL the namae prints were defective (quite strange too, here I saw it all) no one has a perfect print on it. I'm new, but not stupid, I'm 24 years old and this is not serious, a poor boy trying to scam 8$ sending me the worst namaes he got. I WILL NOT GIVE YOU A NEGATIVE FEEDBACK at the moment, cos I 'm not at the same level as you, but I hope a mod can do it for me, even ban you. Scam new users, only RATS do that. EVERYONE has to know that this sad boy scams you at the sad price of 8$, nothing else to say. Hope this can help anyone, and mods could be aware of users like this. Oh i forgot, i said him to send me another pack totally new and unopened, even talk about a negotiation but he has not accepted it. Thanks, xplosion. Bumps are only allowed after 72 hours: Sorry I forgot, not even to no-negotiate, he told me in one of his messages : "Go ahead and spam my thread or mess with my feedback or whatever, I'm sure the mods will side me. And who are they going to believe, a PS-Addict with 400+ posts and +5 feedback or a New Member with 2 posts and 1 feedback?" You are so sad Krypton. Thanks
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Date: Fri, Jan 20 2012 17:35:40
xplosion can you post what you got. Most namaes even brand new don't have perfect print on them. They are kinda printed on there very sloppily hence that's why it's at a discount shop. post what you got so we can make a determination. Closeup of the txt would be best
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Date: Fri, Jan 20 2012 17:40:25
Pictures of the namaes? I doubt Krypton is the type of person who'll scam people, I know him personally and he's a great guy. Its normal for people to open the packets before sending in order to check the product, so that doesn't really count.
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Date: Fri, Jan 20 2012 18:20:51
Hello!! I have only kept 2 namaes, the ones with best prints, the other ones are trashed away. I wanted them to make some mods to sell (so they were to be in great print condition) So I can't prove it, a newbie epic fail, but the other namaes were really bad printed. He had luck this time but I wont do the same mistake the next time. The first and the last. But people has to be aware of this kind of user. I will post the pic with namaes I kept when I arrive at home in comparision with other namae mod that I bought from a french user of FPSC. Thanks for the help man. Bumps are only allowed after 72 hours: @Alvaris, I don't know him personally like you, but that proves that him couldn't scam a new user? don't make me laugh please A new user that doesn't know the world of trades and it appears to be a good person?? a scam lamp appeared above his head. Life is full of situations like this. I'm too good person, i have no badness, and that's my fail. The next time I will ask for pictures before sending the pens, don't worry. As I said, a newbie epic fail in every way. If I can, and the other user don't know pen spinning and trades at all, i will try to scam him.. first lesson that I learned. And yeah, I know a lot of spanish users too. Bumps are only allowed after 72 hours: As everyone in this forum, if I pay money, I want that product almost in good condition, for example, has penwish sent you defective pens in your orders?? I think he doesn't. Money is money from everyone malasyan, spanish, japanese, chinese, etc etc
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Date: Fri, Jan 20 2012 19:32:57
You know..you shouldn't have thrown them away, some people rub off the text on the barrels so that they get a clean white barrel :/ And no, that doesn't prove that he won't scam, its just to alleviate some of the suspicion off him, well seeing that you too don't have any pictures as well to prove that he 'scammed' you by swapping stuff..and come on, i know this guy. he doesn't even have anything on him(lol no offence krypt) besides a few mods on sale. up to you to believe me or not but i assure you he's a trustable person Also, as Penwish said, namaes are often printed sloppily, so..yeah
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Date: Fri, Jan 20 2012 19:44:10
nothing has been proven here but remeber. most of the biggest scammers of all time had really good feedback to begin with =/
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Date: Fri, Jan 20 2012 20:02:50
dude if I would find some use for that barrels i would kept with me, but no, I didn't find any use. I have cleaned superpirats for minwoo and waterfall f.ex. and I wanted namaes for the japanese letters in them (namae mods with dr grip grip and gripmatic tips, i asked Penwish what tips were used in a photo I sent him), and if they are not well printed I cannot use them.. I want the things well done, I'm not conformist. I want what I paid for. I have a sell thread too, and I'm not interested in problems, I want just the opposite. But in my thread you buy what you see, Krypton only has a sad photo that he did when he went to the shop for the first time.. NOT THE REAL pens he sends. See the difference? As I said it will be the last time that I dont ask for real pens b4 sending.. You will never listen someone who buy from me this same problem, it's a fact.
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Date: Sat, Jan 21 2012 02:16:39
I have none but verbal conviction that I didn't scam this guy. The only thing I have left is the wrapper for the envelope. I can't very well defend myself insistantly if you're trying to defame me, but my conscience is clear, I did not change anything. I don't even have spare Namaes to swap. Like Alva said, I don't have much, most of the stuff from my trade thread is stuff I can get for people. @Alvaris, sure no problem, it's a fact anyway :p
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Date: Sat, Jan 21 2012 02:24:58
EVERYONE CALM THE FUCK DOWN. Pay Krypton another $8 if you want new packs of Namaes. If you're being a little bitch over $8 worth of pens then you're really fucked up. The bloody man opened them to see if there were defects, FOR YOU!
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Date: Sat, Jan 21 2012 02:39:17
I'm getting crazy, having personal problems. I'm sorry, maybe my rage went on you without a consistent reason. suffering too much at the moment, sorry. But prints were like a shit, that is true, and yeah, its a fact ¬¬
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Date: Sat, Jan 21 2012 02:42:33
Please remember Namaes are a $2.80 pen that come in packs of three in a discount store.... Not everything is perfect.
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Date: Sat, Jan 21 2012 02:43:38
next time show a pic before send, that easy. And yea, 8$ are 8$ its a fact. now more than ever
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Date: Sat, Jan 21 2012 02:45:23
you may have to open pack if you wan to see the print on all the pens =p but i think it is just a small misunderstanding. try to work it out~
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Date: Sat, Jan 21 2012 05:18:44
@Krypton Although you only opened the package to check for defect, You should first let your buyer know beforehand: "Oh do you want me to check for defect when I purchase them?" OR Mention it in your thread: "I will check for defect upon purchasing." Start doing that from now on, and it will defend yourself in long run. If there are more reports about you, things will be done, so don't risk it. Frog~
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Date: Sat, Jan 21 2012 05:21:11
Fair enough. Will do that.
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Date: Sat, Jan 21 2012 13:42:25
As I said i'm having bad days. And of course u don't know me, but it's not my style. I have pride but I'm honest. Simply, I never though on sending bad pens, that's all (human values that everyone should have) well in fact, "Scam" maybe it's not the word, maybe we should call it "Trick" bah its ok, I will forget it. Bumps are only allowed after 72 hours: Sometimes my friend, you have to think in bad to see things clearly. there is a spanish proverb that says : think in bad, and you will be right. (And if that person is a lot of thousand km of you, you have to be carful)
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Date: Sun, Jan 22 2012 05:42:37
xplosion wrote: As I said i'm having bad days. And of course u don't know me, but it's not my style. I have pride but I'm honest. Simply, I never though on sending bad pens, that's all (human values that everyone should have) well in fact, "Scam" maybe it's not the word, maybe we should call it "Trick" bah its ok, I will forget it. Bumps are only allowed after 72 hours: Sometimes my friend, you have to think in bad to see things clearly. there is a spanish proverb that says : think in bad, and you will be right. (And if that person is a lot of thousand km of you, you have to be carful)
Good, so we're on good terms? I'm sorry if the prints came off, but it was not like that when you received them, and certainly not like that when I sent them. -
Date: Sun, Jan 22 2012 16:41:03
my first trade, so I was happy to recieve the packet...but I did not realize at first instance. nothing else to say
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Date: Tue, Jan 24 2012 02:52:34
How much is a clarity mod worth?
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Date: Tue, Jan 24 2012 03:07:35
prolly 10-15 for those that want it cuz it rare mayble l il more
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Date: Tue, Jan 24 2012 03:15:45
Didnt you sell it at 12 bucks? Muji Twin Markers are pretty rare thou... wont be surprised if it hits 15 per piece :P Frog~
PenwisH wrote: prolly 10-15 for those that want it cuz it rare mayble l il more
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Date: Tue, Jan 24 2012 03:21:13
Xplosion is selling them( the marker) for 2.5$. Penwish, if you still have one would be able you add it to my cart. Or is that unlikely?
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Date: Tue, Jan 24 2012 03:21:46
Different marker I'm pretty sure.
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Date: Wed, Feb 1 2012 08:29:49
@tetrisbusterupsb same person. please moderator double confirm with IP check. Frog~
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Date: Sun, Feb 5 2012 16:05:50
A dc colortwin for my 2 signos, 6 dong a caps and a gray s360 body. Is it even?
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Date: Sun, Feb 5 2012 16:13:35
in terms of value probably fairly even
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Date: Mon, Feb 6 2012 10:07:34
guys how much im gonna sell my nautilus mod? in (dollars)
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Date: Mon, Feb 6 2012 10:15:26
You have just posted in[B] News & Announcements[/B], when its not news or announcements. [B]Trade Value/Scammer Discussion[/B] http://forum.upsb.info/showthread.php?t=634 See the part where it says "[B]TRADE VALUE[/B]"? Do you see it? And a pic is needed, as how you modded it affects the price. Frog~
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Date: Mon, Feb 6 2012 14:14:55
ok a seven on fire g3 vs s777 mx i know that sound rediculus but how much off is my trader just for a s777 mx with real caps? just to add my seven on fire g3 has perfect cuts and real red seven insert <--> s777 mx (not even sure how it looks but just wnt the real cap) generally seven is 18$ if you make it yourself but i have no idea on s777 mx help anyone?
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Date: Mon, Feb 6 2012 15:24:11
S777 is worth nowhere near as much as a SEVEN G3. I'd put it about MAXIMUM 10$ doesn't use too many pens and is not expensive to mod. The real superlavable cap? Just get it from a trader in France.
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Date: Fri, Feb 10 2012 00:15:53
ah i see thanks and i personally hate seven g3 so yea XD just gonna ask for more stuff
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Date: Fri, Feb 10 2012 00:18:15
hate seven g3............................................only one in the history of psing to hate seven g3 i think
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Date: Fri, Feb 10 2012 01:04:21
lol i personally hate how it spins i like how it looks thats it tho :P
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Date: Fri, Feb 10 2012 06:16:46
flame sivics;174505]ok a seven on fire g3 vs s777 mx i know that sound rediculus but how much off is my trader just for a s777 mx with real caps? just to add my seven on fire g3 has perfect cuts and real red seven insert <--> s777 mx (not even sure how it looks but just wnt the real cap) generally seven is 18$ if you make it yourself but i have no idea on s777 mx help anyone?[/QUOTE] If the s777 MX uses the legit cap then I'd say $10-16 depending on how badly you want it. The cap is relatively hard to obtain but lots of peoples just sub it with the Stabilo Trio cap. And by the way, "real red seven insert" means nothing. That's just a re-colored version of the already released Seven G3 insert. Unless of course you're emphasizing the value of the ink and paper the insert is printed on. [QUOTE=eurocracy wrote: The real superlavable cap? Just get it from a trader in France.
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Date: Fri, Feb 10 2012 17:37:52
Nachoaddict wrote: If the s777 MX uses the legit cap then I'd say $10-16 depending on how badly you want it. The cap is relatively hard to obtain but lots of peoples just sub it with the Stabilo Trio cap. And by the way, "real red seven insert" means nothing. That's just a re-colored version of the already released Seven G3 insert. Unless of course you're emphasizing the value of the ink and paper the insert is printed on. s777 MX does not use superlavable cap.
lol why is it suddenly like 10-16 for caps now? arent they like only worth a dollar in france? and wehn i say the insert lol its laser printed so yea... idk does that help it change the value? sorry if any of these are stupid questions -
Date: Fri, Feb 10 2012 17:39:10
i think he means 10-16 for the mod
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Date: Sat, Feb 11 2012 00:05:22
Yes I mean for the entire mod. They are hard to find if I remember correctly because they come from some random pen. But if it uses the Stabilo Trio, then 10 is a good price to stay at. No more than that because Stabilo Trio is very easy to find.
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Date: Sat, Feb 11 2012 00:57:01
laser printing means nothing. yes it will look better and sharper.. but no one should ever put a extra price on the mod just cuz its laser printed. besides... free printing is everywhere... office, school... Frog~
flame sivics wrote: lol why is it suddenly like 10-16 for caps now? arent they like only worth a dollar in france? and wehn i say the insert lol its laser printed so yea... idk does that help it change the value? sorry if any of these are stupid questions
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Date: Sat, Feb 11 2012 03:46:18
Froggy wrote: laser printing means nothing. yes it will look better and sharper.. but no one should ever put a extra price on the mod just cuz its laser printed. besides... free printing is everywhere... office, school... Frog~
yeah your right kinda thought it was a stupid question even tho someone on youtube said something with inserts can change it but i didnt think that was right but anywho thanks @Nachoaddict -
Date: Sat, Feb 18 2012 14:23:28
Will Harna$ scam me? Also how much are yellow spokos worth?
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Date: Sat, Feb 18 2012 15:07:52
Penz3160 wrote: Will Harna$ scam me? Also how much are yellow spokos worth?
dont trade with harnas = = fucking scammer -
Date: Sun, Feb 19 2012 05:56:36
Yea I was also wondering how much spoko's were (in gerneral, not just yellow ones).
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Date: Wed, Feb 22 2012 13:50:20
Ok so i have been discussing trade with @iMatt used to take care of this kind of stuff but he is inactive now, can you help me solve this problem? Thanks. EDIT: sorry for the uber large pictures :/
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Date: Wed, Feb 22 2012 17:47:00
well, this is a local trade and you didnt lose anything, so i dont think this merits a negative feedback, which is more used for international trades where you actually lose something
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Date: Wed, Feb 22 2012 19:03:26
unfortunately, local trades should not even be counted in feedback and nothing was physically scammed so both negative feedbacks should go away.
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Date: Wed, Feb 22 2012 22:23:21
PenwisH wrote: unfortunately, local trades should not even be counted in feedback and nothing was physically scammed so both negative feedbacks should go away.
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Date: Wed, Feb 22 2012 22:49:44
done, both feed back delated
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Date: Thu, Feb 23 2012 14:16:57
Japanese Dr.Grips are discontinued, right? So how much are they worth? And how about Dr.Grip Just Meet?
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Date: Thu, Feb 23 2012 15:30:42
@Sibis you wanted just meet? lololol. I am not sure whether you are lucky enough to get them in shops. Bu the last time i went japan, i found just meet, but it was a ball point pen, and the mechanical pencil must be preordered online, and its not cheap at all LOL, expensive wood. (if you know what i mean ^^)
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Date: Fri, Feb 24 2012 01:18:54
How much for a K7 hybrid? And a FPSB RSVP? Thanks !
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Date: Fri, Feb 24 2012 01:19:58
k7 hybrid is same as any other g3 typically around 18-25 depending on how well it's made. fpsb is a collectable and will vary based on how much someone wants it
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Date: Fri, Feb 24 2012 10:27:47
hmm okay how about regular japanese Dr.Grip?
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Date: Fri, Feb 24 2012 11:53:39
10-20$ depending on who you trade it from
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Date: Wed, Feb 29 2012 02:54:41
How much are white ballsigns worth?
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Date: Wed, Feb 29 2012 02:57:04
not enough in circulation
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Date: Wed, Feb 29 2012 04:26:25
Cyan used to get them $60 bucks each. True story. Frog~
Penz3160 wrote: How much are white ballsigns worth?
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Date: Thu, Mar 1 2012 11:31:54
Are they really worth that much O_o maybe I should auction my white ballsign mod
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Date: Fri, Mar 2 2012 06:11:23
The white cap one with clear body is like $2. White body is a lot more expensive.
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Date: Fri, Mar 2 2012 08:41:20
How much is a yellow (not golden yellow) signo DX worth? In what way is it rare? What about a yellow signo broad? Any picture?
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Date: Sat, Mar 3 2012 03:15:39
L-in wrote: How much is a yellow (not golden yellow) signo DX worth? In what way is it rare? What about a yellow signo broad? Any picture?
I think they might be discontinued but people are still able to find them in stores. Not a whole lot of them in circulation and not very popular (like M&M) so the trade value isn't very concrete. Never seen pure yellow signo broad though. -
Date: Sat, Mar 10 2012 10:32:40
How much is watercolour body worth?
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Date: Wed, Mar 14 2012 13:07:23
Can I trust bolidepink? He's quite new to upsb and has been on vnpsb for a year. I'm paying 50$ for a Japanese dr grip and fire and ice ayatori mod. He doesn't give much proof that it's his. No name card or anything. I tried asking him if there are scratches, cracks, subbed parts etc. I also want pictures. All he said was "new 100% I sure with you."
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Date: Wed, Mar 14 2012 13:11:31
Penz3160 wrote: Can I trust bolidepink? He's quite new to upsb and has been on vnpsb for a year. I'm paying 50$ for a Japanese dr grip and fire and ice ayatori mod. He doesn't give much proof that it's his. No name card or anything. I tried asking him if there are scratches, cracks, subbed parts etc. I also want pictures. All he said was "new 100% I sure with you."
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Date: Wed, Mar 14 2012 13:12:53
just provide picture with name card, that is usually the minimum for new traders
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Date: Wed, Mar 14 2012 14:16:19
value of old profiles that are not retractable? and are they discontinued @Nachoaddict
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Date: Wed, Mar 14 2012 14:46:41
I can still get them at Office Depot. As far as I know they aren't rare nor discontinued.
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Date: Wed, Mar 14 2012 14:47:47
Nachoaddict wrote: I can still get them at Office Depot. As far as I know they aren't rare nor discontinued.
damn I was hoping they were D: -
Date: Wed, Mar 14 2012 14:50:39
I don't think they'd even be useful for anything besides the grip lol.
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Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 04:43:12
Dear all, It has been a long time since I'm actually back to post at UPSB; while I will always remember the nice guys at UPSB who made my stay such a pleasant one :wub: , this place has recently become nothing but a shithole full of fuckers. Baaron and I have yet to regret our decision to leave for LPSA 8) Baaron and I have been victims recently, by the commercialisation of pens. Honestly, I never like the idea of selling pens from famous spinners at high prices. Even when Peem sold the Buster CYL Peem version, I was never too fond about it although it did look very aesthetically pleasant. Now the problem that is going on is that people are actually paying for secret mods tutorials (e.g. Serket SC) which were never meant to be released to the public. I hope the UPSB population understands that tutorials were kept secret for a reason, not because of selfishness. As much as I knew that my mod attracted a fair bit of attention, the reason behind why I never released a tutorial was that original parts are no longer in production. [SIZE="7"]Whoever who thinks that buying a tutorial will make them the mod, you must be really intelligent indeed [/SIZE] And the fact that if I actually wanted you to have the tutorial, I would have personally given you the rare parts of the pen myself :D [SIZE="7"]SO PLEASE STOP WASTING YOUR MONEHHHH [/SIZE] To sum it up, I have to insist again that tutorials are kept confidential for a reason. We feel terribly sorry for the Japanese guys who were being dragged into this shitty situation. Money may seem like the most attractive thing out there but is it worth it to trade your morals and trust for that? I have never known a more vulgar expression of betrayal and deceit. Please take a look at the screenshots i have obtained below for a better understanding of a whole picture.
Me acting like an idiot to hope for more information to be revealed
Obviously i didnt buy that.. period -.- and he is THAT CHEAP. if money mattered that much to me .....
WHAT IS THIS I DONT EVEN???????
YOU HAD THE GUTS TO ASK ME TO DO THAT! SHAME ON YOU
Things are really getting out of hand.
and FYI, Baaron was arrasis, watching the convo to see how he would react
he literally came into tc and thats the first thing he asked
to the people who still want to buy the pen, ISHYGDDT -
Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 04:53:36
Somehow I knew this was gonna happen lol Edit; I auk was right that ara guy wa baron
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Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 05:19:48
The fuck is wrong with UPSB?
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Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 05:41:53
[10:36:46 PM] Matt: "It says I got banned for scamming. I didn't scam anyone. I lied to springfield and told him I was selling a fake tutorial so he would not get mad and stuff. Every mod and tutorial I sold was 100% real. When I sold the tutorial, I sent the tutorial springfield made himself untouched. theirfor I did not scam anyone. Although it was a dick move, i should not be banned. Right now I am in the middle of selling a lot of my pens, and it is not fair to ban me with deals half done. That would mean that people who bought from me would not recive pens because I dont yet know their addresses, and me not receiving money for pens I already sent. Banning me would mean scamming all those people." [10:38:15 PM | 10:38:22 PM] Matt: PS "Baaron and I have been victims " no. only springfield is a victim. I didn't sell anyone baaron's mod tutorial, or sold any of his mod. His mod is still safe. just so you know. I'm not siding on either side, I'm just posting this for Matt.
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Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 06:03:27
Efff the hell outa u Matt u said u wer gunna unsub the seven I bought from u but u didn't and u charged me extra $2 and u didn't fking giv me change web u said sure sure sure in our shitty confermation pm >:( Asshole thought I was a idiot jackass *_* (sry for inappropriate language if it affected anyone)
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Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 06:35:21
@yoppi000 You really couldn't of taken some more time/effort in that message? I know it's the internet, but you are going a bit overboard there. That message was just hard to read and took much more effort than any normal paragraph. I would be least bit surprised if you weren't native in English, but I'm pretty sure you are. If you are that bad at typing that it would take that much more time to type full words and use correct grammar, then you need some practice.
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Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 06:36:56
I banned matt. His said the first SRPiNGFiELD SC he sold away was a complete bogus. Either way, it shows how untrustworthy matts is.
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Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 06:50:23
Untrustworthiness isn't a criteria for being banned, I thought..
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Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 06:51:56
the ban was on the account of him scamming that he sold the fake springfield sc to
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Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 07:23:24
But we just established that this wasn't the case I thought .-. I'm not saying I agree with the actions or disagree with them being deserving of a ban, just that I don't think that in light of the current information it would be a technically warranted one.
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Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 09:01:16
iColor wrote: [10:36:46 PM] Matt: "It says I got banned for scamming. I didn't scam anyone. I lied to springfield and told him I was selling a fake tutorial so he would not get mad and stuff. Every mod and tutorial I sold was 100% real. When I sold the tutorial, I sent the tutorial springfield made himself untouched. theirfor I did not scam anyone. Although it was a dick move, i should not be banned. Right now I am in the middle of selling a lot of my pens, and it is not fair to ban me with deals half done. That would mean that people who bought from me would not recive pens because I dont yet know their addresses, and me not receiving money for pens I already sent. Banning me would mean scamming all those people." [10:38:15 PM | 10:38:22 PM] Matt: PS "Baaron and I have been victims " no. only springfield is a victim. I didn't sell anyone baaron's mod tutorial, or sold any of his mod. His mod is still safe. just so you know. I'm not siding on either side, I'm just posting this for Matt.
How contradictory.. so u did not scam anyone but you lied to me. That dishonesty. nuff said. and how is Baaron not a victim? if you were in his position how would you explain to the guys like serket? you didnt sell his mod, because you know that is fanbase wouldnt tolerate that. or maybe you did, god knows because you told me that my mod was safe in the first place. how am we to trust anyone now? You did that to me because i obviously seemed to be more vulnerable. stepping on the popularity to make money.. well done .. so this is what pen spinning is about.. -
Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 09:19:28
Jon wrote: @yoppi000 You really couldn't of taken some more time/effort in that message? I know it's the internet, but you are going a bit overboard there. That message was just hard to read and took much more effort than any normal paragraph. I would be least bit surprised if you weren't native in English, but I'm pretty sure you are. If you are that bad at typing that it would take that much more time to type full words and use correct grammar, then you need some practice.
I'm sry I type everything on my my itouch and I have a Megan fox thumb so it's hard to type :O but i don't think I mentioned u anywhere in the post why the fuck do u care jon??? -
Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 09:23:40
@yoppi000 Jon is matt's bro. Im not implying anything here
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Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 09:32:32
yoppi000;183984]I'm sry I type everything on my my itouch and I have a Megan fox thumb so it's hard to type :O but i don't think I mentioned u anywhere in the post why the fuck do u care jon???[/QUOTE] My message had nothing at all to do with the matter on the hands in this thread. You just assume I cared about what you were saying enough to reply to it? Nope. I would have sent that same message on any thread no matter what it was about. [QUOTE=Pixels wrote: @yoppi000 Jon is matt's bro. Im not implying anything here
That has pretty much nothing to do with what I was saying to her at all. It has nothing to do with the thread as I said earlier. -
Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 10:48:38
Um, guys, chillax.. Despite the problems around secret mods, I traded with both Jon and Matt recently. We had smooth negotiations and comfortable trades. I am not putting my any opinion on secret mods, since there are already so many. However, just want to tell buyers that, TRADING-WISE, Jon and Matt are NOT SCAMMER and they are both TRUSTWORTHY. :XD: And although I am not on any side, I still want to say, all of you should stop attacking personalities in your arguments. Discussion about secret mods should focus on the modding aspect. Otherwise, you are embracing the philosophical fallacy named "Ad Hominem (Against the Man)". kthxbai
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Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 16:33:08
L-in wrote: Um, guys, chillax.. Despite the problems around secret mods, I traded with both Jon and Matt recently. We had smooth negotiations and comfortable trades. I am not putting my any opinion on secret mods, since there are already so many. However, just want to tell buyers that, TRADING-WISE, Jon and Matt are NOT SCAMMER and they are both TRUSTWORTHY. :XD: And although I am not on any side, I still want to say, all of you should stop attacking personalities in your arguments. Discussion about secret mods should focus on the modding aspect. Otherwise, you are embracing the philosophical fallacy named "Ad Hominem (Against the Man)". kthxbai
Matt is trustworthy? That's already a lie. He sold tutorials of Springfield's "secret mod" that weren't even supposed to be known to others to make money out of it. That is breaking Springfield's trust. And even if they weren't the real tutorial, that is already scamming people by selling people FAKE mods to make money lying to everyone else. How is this even considered "trustworthy"? -
Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 17:03:38
Is that considered scamming, though? He didn't sell fake mods to people. I don't know if 'trust' is a bannable offense.
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Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 17:16:17
Please don't ban Matt..its been 9 days I still didn't get my Blue Moonz yet and I need to message him thanks
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Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 17:21:52
i traded with jon recently two and everything went fine. and who cares about fake secret mod shit................
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Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 20:00:49
yoppi000;183962]Efff the hell outa u Matt u said u wer gunna unsub the seven I bought from u but u didn't and u charged me extra $2 and u didn't fking giv me change web u said sure sure sure in our shitty confermation pm >:( Asshole thought I was a idiot jackass *_* (sry for inappropriate language if it affected anyone)[/QUOTE] [6:50:54 AM] Matt: "First of all, i did unsub it retard, take it apart and look, its all real, with a metallic jell in the front. Second of all, shut the fuck up about how I "charged you an extra $2", You changed you mind like 9 fucking times in the PMs, first you say keep the change, then you say give me more stuff, they you say send it back, they you say keep the change, i didn't even fucking know what you wanted. Its obviously was not very clear. So in the end, when you ended up with TWO FUCKING DOLALRS less then you thought because i didn't ship BACK money you sent to me..... you shouldn't get mad. Learn how to type and be more clear next time." [QUOTE=SPRiNGFiELD;183983]How contradictory.. so u did not scam anyone but you lied to me. That dishonesty. nuff said. and how is Baaron not a victim? if you were in his position how would you explain to the guys like serket? you didnt sell his mod, because you know that is fanbase wouldnt tolerate that. or maybe you did, god knows because you told me that my mod was safe in the first place. how am we to trust anyone now? You did that to me because i obviously seemed to be more vulnerable. stepping on the popularity to make money.. well done .. so this is what pen spinning is about..[/QUOTE] [6:50:54 AM] Matt: "The reason I did't sell baaron mod was because I like baaron as a spinner and as a person, I couldnt do that to him. The fanbase wouldn't tolerate it? whatever the fuck that means, a shitload of people would pay $50 for a baaron mod in a second. I sold your mod because I think your a douche and I don't like you. Think about it, if i wanted to I could have made twice as much money selling baaron mod any day. And no, baaron is not a victom. Yes, I sold ONE secret SC. But do you REALLY think serket is going to hear about that all the way in Japan? The person I sold it to is such a noob, they wont take it apart because they know they wont be able to put it back together. And even if serket DID hear about it, how would he know that it was baaron who first leaked it? serket told a lot more than just baaron. It could be any of them. I talk to plenty of Japanese spinners. And finally, you take 10 million super close up pictures of your stupid little pen, put them all up on facebook for everyone to see, and then walk around saying how your mod is so "secret" and then say how all the guys looking at the pictures cant have it. Its like waving money in a poor persons face. you just want attention. Baaron has never done anything CLOSE to that. All he does is spins, and his talent alone attracts the attention. Plus just look at your hair, you look like such a faggot. I wanted people to have your mod MORE than I wanted the money. baaron actually has legit reasons to keep his mod a secret. you just want attention." [QUOTE=Hippo2626 wrote: the ban was on the account of him scamming that he sold the fake springfield sc to
[6:50:54 AM] Matt: "Its pretty clear no one got scammed. Sure, im dishonest, but I lot of people on here are and you can't ban someone for that. The only scamming that will happen is if I stay banned, and can't finish trades. So please unban me." Just posting for Matt, in his own words. -
Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 20:05:47
damn :whut:
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Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 20:10:50
In a way, Matt isn't banned. He has many people to speak for him...
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Date: Sun, Mar 18 2012 00:17:02
Wind wrote: Matt is trustworthy? That's already a lie. He sold tutorials of Springfield's "secret mod" that weren't even supposed to be known to others to make money out of it. That is breaking Springfield's trust. And even if they weren't the real tutorial, that is already scamming people by selling people FAKE mods to make money lying to everyone else. How is this even considered "trustworthy"?
Why don't you read carefully? I said "TRADING-WISE". :facepalm: A trader is considered a legit scammer only if he steals money or lies about reception of stuff to anyone. Since only the buyer and matt know about the legit-ness of the mod being sold, and neither of them complained so far, there is no reason to mess up "TRADING SCAMMER" with "BAD FRIEND". I'm just pointing out the fallacies some of you are making, not aligning with any side. Don't be so sensitive, guys, not cool. Go post in secret mod general discussion or whatever. This thread is named "TRADE VALUE/SCAMMER", not "YOUR OPINIONS ON SELLING SECRET MODS". Period. -
Date: Sun, Mar 18 2012 00:36:09
That depends if Matt can prove that he IS selling the legit spring mod. Meaning for him to prove it, one of the moderator team must have knowledge of the LEGIT spring mod, and read Matt's tutorial. You guys are missing the point that hes banned for SELLING FAKE spring mod, when he clearly noted that they're REAL. That's like me telling you I'm gonna sell REAL buster cyl, when its made out of paper. Is that scamming to you guys then? Frog~ p.s. offtopic: crap nearly double posted :(
iColor wrote: Is that considered scamming, though? [B]He didn't sell fake mods to people.[/B] I don't know if 'trust' is a bannable offense.
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Date: Sun, Mar 18 2012 01:57:35
Froggy wrote: That depends if Matt can prove that he IS selling the legit spring mod. Meaning for him to prove it, one of the moderator team must have knowledge of the LEGIT spring mod, and read Matt's tutorial. You guys are missing the point that hes banned for SELLING FAKE spring mod, when he clearly noted that they're REAL. That's like me telling you I'm gonna sell REAL buster cyl, when its made out of paper. Is that scamming to you guys then? Frog~ p.s. offtopic: crap nearly double posted :(
Then, I vouch that the tutorials he was selling are 100% authentic, and the mod that he sold was authentic as well, having seen them in real-life. Again, I'm not on Matt's side. I'm just stating that the 'scamming' aspect was false. -
Date: Sun, Mar 18 2012 02:00:00
iColor wrote: Then, I vouch that the tutorials he was selling are 100% authentic, and the mod that he sold was authentic as well, having seen them in real-life. Again, I'm not on Matt's side. I'm just stating that the 'scamming' aspect was false.
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Date: Sun, Mar 18 2012 06:56:38
@iColor Then why haven't you unbanned him yet? Frog~
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Date: Mon, Mar 19 2012 00:20:00
By Anonymous.. "Think about it. Whether or not Matt does good or bad trades are beside the main point. Even if Matt have all reasons to hate Springfield, what he did was unethical. He is posing a direct personal attack on springfield whether it started out because of the money or wateva reasons. This is obviously not right and it's morally wrong. Furthermore, giving an excuse that Raos is a loser and won't leak the tut doesn't mean that it gives you the right to. Also giving the reason of halting all trades due to ban is not a valid excuse. If you work so hard to get your words here on this post. I am sure you have other means to continue the trade. Banning on the forum doesn't mean u can't use other mediums to communicate."
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Date: Mon, Mar 19 2012 01:50:45
Yamaguchi wrote: By Anonymous.. "Think about it. Whether or not Matt does good or bad trades are beside the main point. Even if Matt have all reasons to hate Springfield, what he did was unethical. He is posing a direct personal attack on springfield whether it started out because of the money or wateva reasons. This is obviously not right and it's morally wrong. Furthermore, giving an excuse that Raos is a loser and won't leak the tut doesn't mean that it gives you the right to. Also giving the reason of halting all trades due to ban is not a valid excuse. If you work so hard to get your words here on this post. I am sure you have other means to continue the trade. Banning on the forum doesn't mean u can't use other mediums to communicate."
usually traders only communicate on UPSB, so Matt would probably nt take the measure of getting a different from of contact for each trader. Plus im not a looser I can take it apart and if I do I will be able to put it back together I can get a tut for secret mods but I DONT WANT TO plus he got banned for scamming, which is what he DID NOT DO, so I dont see a reason to ban him if dishonesty is bannable. I believe what Matt did is kind of wrong, but it is natural. Every human being has this kind of urge and mocking him. Plus hes not personally attacking him and there was no personal information being violated. AGAIN its just a sentence of words that sound bad Also unethical means that human rights are being violated. THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE, lying and spilling the beans does not violate human rights of any kind. Its a consequence of taking the risk for telling people tutorials. What he did may be wrong, its jsut a natural consequence of taking a risk. He should not get banned for it just because a majority of people didn't like ow it came up. People have to realize that this is just a result of takin a risk tellign soemthing you treasure to someone you have never met before. I see your point, but it is not a good enough reason to be hatin on him. I know some people are mad and pissed off but you jsut have to deal with it, banning him WONT SOLVE ANYTHING. -
Date: Mon, Mar 19 2012 02:33:06
Yamaguchi;184391]"If you work so hard to get your words here on this post. I am sure you have other means to continue the trade. Banning on the forum doesn't mean u can't use other mediums to communicate."[/QUOTE] I agree with this. I think he can work something out with Jon's account if he really wanted to finish trades. Otherwise, he's just using it as an excuse to fight the ban so he can continue making money. [QUOTE=Raos wrote: Plus hes not personally attacking him and there was no personal information being violated. AGAIN its just a sentence of words that sound bad Also unethical means that human rights are being violated. THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE, lying and spilling the beans does not violate human rights of any kind. Its a consequence of taking the risk for telling people tutorials.
Personal attack does not necessarily mean personal information must be violated. Unethical does not necessarily mean human rights must be violated. It's ironic because Suixidal was banned because he was hurting the community albeit you had fault in that whole ordeal too. Now this is all perspective but the reason people are hating on Matt is because they think he's hurting the community by breaking the trust of other spinners and profiting off of them. Then again you could argue that these spinners should have expected there to be leaks or that the spinners hurt the community by making their tutorials exclusive, creating a sense of elitism in the forum. That hurts the community as well because it separates certain individuals, damaging the unity of the forum whether it was intended or not. It's all a matter of perspective which is why it's not really black and white where I stand on this. I'm sure others feel this way too. -
Date: Mon, Mar 19 2012 02:35:06
Nachoaddict wrote: I agree with this. I think he can work something out with Jon's account if he really wanted to finish trades. Otherwise, he's just using it as an excuse to fight the ban so he can continue making money. Personal attack does not necessarily mean personal information must be violated. Unethical does not necessarily mean human rights must be violated. It's ironic because Suixidal was banned because he was hurting the community albeit you had fault in that whole ordeal too. Now this is all perspective but the reason people are hating on Matt is because they think he's hurting the community by breaking the trust of other spinners and profiting off of them. Then again you could argue that these spinners should have expected there to be leaks or that the spinners hurt the community by making their tutorials exclusive, creating a sense of elitism in the forum. It's all a matter of perspective which is why it's not really black and white where I stand on this. I'm sure others feel this way too.
You have a point too, but Matt is currently banned for scamming which is what he did not do. I think action should be taken on that part. -
Date: Mon, Mar 19 2012 02:37:59
when people are leaving PS. even if they have a good reputation, weird things can happen. bright eyes, flying asian.. are were 100% feedback traders that went on a spree as they were leaving ps. people leaving ps will typically break ps community rules. it happens more often than you think.
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Date: Mon, Mar 19 2012 02:41:57
Raos wrote: You have a point too, but Matt is currently banned for scamming which is what he did not do. I think action should be taken on that part.
You don't even define what kind of action you think is suitable. Do you want him to be banned for hurting the community? Or unbanned or given a warning or what... The point is, it's clear this is a problem within the community. While we all figure this out, it's probably best to prevent the issue from continuing and possibly getting worse. And unfortunately for him, the best way to do it is trying to prevent him from continuing to open new trades on UPSB. We did this for Suixidal as well. We banned him temporarily while the mods figured out what to do. Again it's a controversial issue so I'm sure people will disagree with me when I say this especially those who might have not finished their purchases with him. -
Date: Mon, Mar 19 2012 02:45:59
Nachoaddict wrote: I'm sure others feel this way too.
I do. ^_^ It's a hard decision though. Matt did broke the trust of some spinners to make profit off of them, which is pretty unethical, but I'm not sure about the ban, because I consider it could be an issue to be discussed by the people involved (Matt - SPRiNG, mainly). Considering iColor vouched that the mod he sold was real, we could say there's no real reason for being banned for scamming. What's to be evaluated is the damage done to SPRiNG/the community, that could be the key to determine if the ban should be kept or not. Also, it is clear that Matt can keep the contact with the people he's trading with even being banned :x -
Date: Mon, Mar 19 2012 02:48:18
rules need to be more strict. suixidal and matt are both borderline
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Date: Mon, Mar 19 2012 02:54:12
At the end of the day, Matt still did a douche-y thing.
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Date: Mon, Mar 19 2012 03:11:28
PenwisH wrote: rules need to be more strict. suixidal and matt are both borderline
oh my, I bought Blue Moonz from him and after 9 days it still haven't arrive my place yet -
Date: Mon, Mar 19 2012 03:20:11
Kido wrote: oh my, I bought Blue Moonz from him and after 9 days it still haven't arrive my place yet
Try contacting his brother or getting his email/fb/msn/skype -
Date: Mon, Mar 19 2012 03:20:34
9 days? to malaysia? even if it was 19 days, i wouldn't not be surprised. usa to malaysia takes 1.5-3.5 weeks
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Date: Mon, Mar 19 2012 03:55:32
@PenwisH actually today its consider 10 days for my timezone. if after 14-19 days it will be making me worried about it. its been a while I never waited for that long. I bought a pack of hyperjell from Canada it takes 10 days to arrive my country and the shipment fee is the same, so I not sure about USA then. But well let me wait 4 more days and see how it goes.
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Date: Mon, Mar 19 2012 06:17:25
@Everyone just chill and let the mods decide XD
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Date: Mon, Mar 19 2012 10:47:24
dafuq? good traders are getting banned..
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Date: Tue, Mar 20 2012 08:59:55
I really need money so how much should I ask for my Just Meets to get them sold a little faster? Any thoughts?
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Date: Tue, Mar 20 2012 09:10:14
they arent exactly in high demand... its mainly a collector's item, and most psers arent really into dishing out loads of cash for collection. even if u sell it at low cost, people will just use it the way its not intended to.. Frog~
Sibis wrote: I really need money so how much should I ask for my Just Meets to get them sold a little faster? Any thoughts?
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Date: Tue, Mar 20 2012 10:42:21
Sibis wrote: I really need money so how much should I ask for my Just Meets to get them sold a little faster? Any thoughts?
The price u gave was extremely high. Previously there was an auction for just meet and thr BIN was 30 bucks. You are asking for more than that. -
Date: Tue, Mar 20 2012 10:53:45
Pixels wrote: The price u gave was extremely high. Previously there was an auction for just meet and thr BIN was 30 bucks. You are asking for more than that.
Allright thanks for this information. I'll edit the price some time soon and maybe start an auction -
Date: Wed, Mar 21 2012 18:40:52
hey anyone know the value of a yelo mod??? or even a set of all 6 colors?? all 6 colors as in orange, pink, yellow, light green, light blue and purple. would it be around 23$-30$?? or more since bellcolor???
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Date: Thu, Apr 5 2012 07:01:27
Hey . does anyone know Castle master? i trade with he 2 joey's dc and 1 waterfall for 1 pack 25 bell color and 15 separately ... Because he is not answering me . whether he sent or not . He send first . because his feedback is lesser .. so should i give he negative feedback ?
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Date: Fri, Apr 6 2012 10:22:11
If u haven't sent yet and did not lose anything, u don't give negative feedback. Frog~
FRspinner wrote: Hey . does anyone know Castle master? i trade with he 2 joey's dc and 1 waterfall for 1 pack 25 bell color and 15 separately ... Because he is not answering me . whether he sent or not . He send first . because his feedback is lesser .. so should i give he negative feedback ?
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Date: Sun, Apr 15 2012 13:31:44
Hi Upsb! I would just like to inform you that Bolidepink is indeed a scammer. Here is his profile link: http://forum.upsb.info/member.php?u=7171 . He asked my if I wanted to buy some mod. He showed me this: http://vnpsb.net/2011/forum.php?mod=...extra=page%3D1 . I found out he has none of these mods and is taking it from LNT-Phat's album and from the internet. He claims he has japanese dr grip too. Proof of him scamming: 1. This is big. He said he sent when I didn't even tell him my address. 2. He refuses to send pics with his name card. I will get pictures of all my pms, and more proof later.
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Date: Sun, Apr 15 2012 13:45:21
Wrong thread bro, you're supposed to post in the Scammer/Value Discussion Thread. Scammers are getting dumber nowadays (point no. 1).
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Date: Sun, Apr 15 2012 14:32:05
Oh I posted here cause aurora posted his thread in this section. @Nachaddict if you need to move, go ahead.
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Date: Sun, Apr 15 2012 14:39:43
Anyone know what a peemalux mod is worth? Are two rsvp 7 packs ( 14 total ) a fair trade for a peemalux mod?
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Date: Sun, Apr 15 2012 15:32:44
He refused to show you pics and you still sent him the money ? @.@ Well back then he actually had a LOT of mods ... I don't know if he does now >.> And he's quit PSing so he's no longer available on VNPSB
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Date: Sun, Apr 15 2012 23:55:28
Got a message from him, just ignored it.
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Date: Mon, Apr 16 2012 01:03:14
sangara wrote: Got a message from him, just ignored it.
That's what he does. He will go around asking if you want to buy mods. Guys, don't fall for this! -
Date: Mon, Apr 16 2012 01:09:00
Is he like James_never_quits or sth? He always sends PMs asking if ppl wanna buy LNT_Phat's mods also.
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Date: Mon, Apr 16 2012 01:13:08
MrCraziBaby wrote: Is he like James_never_quits or sth? He always sends PMs asking if ppl wanna buy LNT_Phat's mods also.
I think James is trustable as long as he has pictures and sends first. The safest thing to do is buy from LNT. -
Date: Mon, Apr 16 2012 11:14:26
MrCraziBaby wrote: Is he like James_never_quits or sth? He always sends PMs asking if ppl wanna buy LNT_Phat's mods also.
i'm not bolidepink:| -
Date: Mon, Apr 16 2012 15:25:57
james_never_quits wrote: i'm not bolidepink:|
i support james. i have confirmed with LNT that he has sold mods to him -
Date: Mon, Apr 16 2012 15:49:40
Hahas alright I was just stating my doubts... @james_never_quits sorry about that! No hard feelings ^^
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Date: Tue, Apr 17 2012 11:14:02
MrCraziBaby wrote: Hahas alright I was just stating my doubts... @james_never_quits sorry about that! No hard feelings ^^
i don't care^^but i'm not bolidepink -
Date: Fri, Apr 20 2012 19:19:34
@PenwisH how much are Muji Hex markers worth nowadays noticing the fact that the Muji Online Store no longer sells them?
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Date: Fri, Apr 20 2012 23:51:42
Jan wrote: @PenwisH how much are Muji Hex markers worth nowadays noticing the fact that the Muji Online Store no longer sells them?
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Date: Fri, Apr 20 2012 23:54:51
not much. easy to get still for most part from distributors
Jan wrote: @PenwisH how much are Muji Hex markers worth nowadays noticing the fact that the Muji Online Store no longer sells them?
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Date: Sun, Apr 29 2012 10:16:04
@Jo So after a length discussion, I have finally decided to share this experience with you guys. A guy under the name Jo have contacted me, syrti, nacho and i.suk to help him make a few mods. During the negotiation, I have asked him about syrti and nacho's response, and have reached a mindset that he will be using the service I provide. So with that mindset, I have spent more than half day sitting in front of my laptop, constantly adjusting the shopping cart in penwish.com to accomodate with his demand. At first, he asked for Mesi PC2, Mesi G3, Stuhl Mod, K7 Hybrid, VGG Emboss and Jumi G3... but after a moment of discussion, and notifying him the price on penwish, he then changed his want list to something else. He repeated the process roughly/over 4 times, with each time me changing the shopping cart to meet his request as soon as possible. During the negotiation process, I have also constantly reminded him to be aware of his budget. I have also recommended him how to pay less for more. However, because he insist on sticking with Mesi PC2, Mesi G3, Jumi G3 and Yelo Mod (something he added later along the negotiation process), it is hard to make the whole order cheaper already. So after finally reaching an agreement, he notifies me that he does not have paypal, and so I have asked Alvaris' assistance, by having Jo's payment transferred to Alvaris, then Alvaris will convert that payment into paypal balance and transfer that to me. I have also clarified with Penwish about his stock during and after the negotiation process. Once everything is set, and the payment is the only thing required to continue the order, Jo then tells me that he will ask for the price from flaming oracle. Because of how much time and effort I have spent on the negotiation process, and that it involves more than just myself and Jo, I have then, under agreement with several moderators in charge of trading section, to notify him that, due to my effort spent, he will either have to trade with me, or I will share this experience out and let the community judge him. Now I'm not pissed because he chose the cheaper option. I understand that everyone wants the best stuffs for the lowest price. However, what I am pissed about is that, after "using" me to get all the info he needs, he decides to just run off and cancel the trade. -- This is the example I gave to everyone that are aware of the situation: Imagine I go to your pizza shop, and asked for a pizza with special requirements (maybe special type of cheese, with special sauce). You have then agreed to make me the pizza, after spending half a day just planning everything out. But after a moment, I have just simply walk out of the store, without paying anything. -- So will you, assuming you're the owner of the pizza store, just suck it up and let me walk away.. or will you run out of your store and stop me? This is the same situation, only that it happened on the internet, and that it involves more people than simply the seller and the buyer. I'm not here to expose his intention to scam. However, if you are going to trade with him in the future, please be aware that he will attempt waste your time and effort. -- Here is the mediafire link to the original facebook conversation: http://www.mediafire.com/?xb0510aldeqicab Note: I have censored Jo's name due to rule 12. Note 2: The whole conversation is 64 pages of text. Frog~
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 01:08:52
@Froggy I never replied to him because I don't really do requests. Just in general, I think that unless you explicitly tell them that they will receive negative feedback if the trader backs out after a certain reasonable point (such as after exchanging addresses) it doesn't merit a negative mark until a trader backs out after packages are sent. But aside from that, I agree with you. What he did was inconsiderate especially if he was only paying for the mods and not the parts.
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 01:23:14
If you are negotiating with someone it's best not to waste someone's time which seems to be the case in this situation. You can't ask someone to do a days of work and say kk thx for doing all the work, i'm going with someone else
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 06:06:01
I see a increasing trend of people like this from mypsc. I have also tried trading with msia ppl but my experience has been always very bad. Many should start learning to be less selfcentered. No racism intended.
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 06:12:52
It's not scamming at least but don't waste people's time then tell them no after they have done all the work for you. wasting someone's time is just as bad as wasting someone's money.
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 12:50:42
Froggy.. He ask for buying the mods? Or what?......
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 14:32:50
PenwisH wrote: If you are negotiating with someone it's best not to waste someone's time which seems to be the case in this situation. You can't ask someone to do a days of work and say kk thx for doing all the work, i'm going with someone else
@Froggy he did the same to me. im tlaking to him for almost 2weeks about a big trade .. as i want to buy like 4pens from him and his upsb case after i drove 3times an hour and half drive to exchange the cash to USD, because he kept changing his mind to sell me or not after all this time he suddenly tells me "his mom wont agree for it because i live far" he made me waste so much time and effort on this stupid trade .. backing out and in time after time non stop.. imo he should be banned for all of the shit hes doing -
Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 14:46:00
@DasToks Did u end up exchanging the currency? Also, I personally felt this deserves a negative, due to the cost of transportation. But you will have to confirm with penwish. Frog~
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 14:48:35
@Froggy yes i did end up exchaning the currency .. 3 times! because he kept saying ok, then changing his mind, then ok again .. and so on and now suddenly he says hes mom wont let him send it cuz i live far from him i demand from him sending me the pens or atleast get his punish? clearly im not the first guy hes doing that to.
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 14:57:44
Well, people like this cannot be blacklisted/ negative feedback unless you have specified that he cannot back out, but then again, that's what feedback is for, not whether you have traded or not, he could be given negative/positive feedback. Anyway, has he given you any form of apology?, or can you see any bit of regret?, if that has any importance to you.
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 14:58:53
some of this stuff is borderline negative feedbackable.....live too far? I am sure the person he is trading with (he who shall not be named) lives farther than you DasToks as I'm pretty sure United States is farther from Malaysia than Israel.....
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 15:00:25
@PenwisH Could he be blacklisted?, since he dropped out of the trade with Froggy for someone else, I would assume he has made a successful trade with someone else without scaming.
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 15:02:40
IMO I dont think thats true, that u cannot negative feedback unless specified otherwise. So if I'm trading with you, and after I sent my package you decided to back out... because I didn't specify, therefore you dont deserve a negative? How I see it, is if one side physically lose something, then its eligible for a negative feedback. Like in my case, I would be using the internet anyways whether Jo approached me or not. I did not physically lose anything. but in Dastoks' case, He not only lost time, but also transportation fee (which is physical), and perhaps the exchange of currency too. Then again, Penwish never clarified it. So we may never know until then.. Frog~ edit: as far as im aware, he have not completed the trade YET.
Cubesnail wrote: Well, people like this cannot be blacklisted/ negative feedback unless you have specified that he cannot back out, but then again, that's what feedback is for, not whether you have traded or not, he could be given negative/positive feedback. Anyway, has he given you any form of apology?, or can you see any bit of regret?, if that has any importance to you.
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 15:04:33
@Cubesnail If you are dealing with any reputable trader. They will not make you do half day of work or drive for hours to do currency exchange then say they live too far when the person they are trading with lives over twice as far away. It's not scamming pens but scamming time is just as bad and in many cases worse. There is a reason people with good feedback trade a lot. Prices are reasonable and they negotiate and do business correctly for the most part. If I made someone do the work for my benefit, I would compensate them somehow even if it means taking a slightly lesser deal. I have no issues with people who don't agree on deal but making people do a ton of work then backing out is a no no.
Cubesnail wrote: Well, people like this cannot be blacklisted/ negative feedback unless you have specified that he cannot back out, but then again, that's what feedback is for, not whether you have traded or not, he could be given negative/positive feedback. Anyway, has he given you any form of apology?, or can you see any bit of regret?, if that has any importance to you.
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 15:05:53
@Froggy, you could give negative feedback saying he wasted your time perhaps?
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 15:07:24
@Cubesnail Definitely won't blacklist but the mods will kinda have to talk it over. It seems like it's a pattern. If it is, definitely negative feedbackable.
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 15:12:24
@Cubesnail Penwish have told me to give him a neutral instead. Frog~
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 15:19:56
I will talk it over with the other mods. Seems almost negative worthy.
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 15:31:55
i dont care a ratsass about an apology he made me waste money, time, and effort. not to mention i waited for this trade some time now im not going to give him netural feedback .. for what ?!? spending my time, money, and effort?! his going to get his negetive feedback, and thats the least. i still think he should be banned he done it few times already why let him go away with it and do it again? @PenwisH
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 15:52:37
DasToks wrote: i dont care a ratsass about an apology he made me waste money, time, and effort. not to mention i waited for this trade some time now im not going to give him netural feedback .. for what ?!? spending my time, money, and effort?! his going to get his negetive feedback, and thats the least. i still think he should be banned he done it few times already why let him go away with it and do it again? @PenwisH
Damn man, his mom doesn't allow him to trade internationally, that happens with some people, my mom and dad are the same. don't be rude D: -
Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 15:54:00
utkarsh wrote: Damn man, his mom doesn't allow him to trade internationally, that happens with some people, my mom and dad are the same. don't be rude D:
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 16:03:48
sigh. I apologised to u guys.. im really sorry.. I really want to sell of my mods too ya know.. just that my mom doesnt allow me too.. and i RESPECT what she says... i dont like u saying '' I dont care about apology and stuff' hey at least i told u im not sending u .. or not u'll be waiting.... i know i wasted ur transportation time.. but u should have not 'rush' to get ready the $ or smth cuz u said after i send u the pens only u will send.. to froggy , I apologised to u 3 times and i said thanks because u thaught me something like mods information ( not to say Im using u.. but u're also helping me to know more about ps world.. thats a good thing to do now ya know.. ) I know i wasted alot of ur time.. but Im really sorry..
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 16:11:32
its really dosent matter.. like penwish said, the guy your trading with is living way far the me, not to mention most of your trades will be like that and your trying to make it fall on me now? i went to get the cash ready when you AGREED if you agree, why should i wait until you change your mind ? dont make it fall on me. its your own fault, and clearly not the first time your doing it. not to mention that penwish is right, and your reason for not doing the trade with me is stupid because your doing a trade with some1 who lives farther then me you wasted my MONEY, time and effort! you should be punished or atleast Compensate us
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 16:14:30
I dont mind if you wanna ask me stuffs about penspinning. But you asked for my recommendations, to cut down the cost of the package. And that is related to the trade itself. And even after telling me you're looking for alternate seller, you still actually dare to ask what I recommend you? I tried to keep my cool, still hoped you would use the service I provided. I was clearly too soft. It took 2 moderators' opinion to actually make me reveal your act. And I'm glad I did. Point is, you are suppose to do all your homework, researching whose service to use, before approaching them. Frog~ p.s. I am actually pretty pissed. I just dont rage it out like Dastoks.
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 16:20:21
not only u wasted ur time, i also wasted my time.. and yes IM TRADING with someone in US. my mom allows me to Buy from him why?: he has 29 positive feedbacks he does not get ANNOYED with all of my questions, hes a good person i asked about him , everyone say he is good, trusted , fast seller he offered me a good deal.. although we have been negotiating for a Long time, hes okay about it if i cancel the trade. ( and u only have 3 positive so its not fully 'secured'.. i really appreciate what froggy did like calculate the stuff, but when u have a better deal Of course u would go for it.. but when the package is SENT u HAVE to trade with the person.. but its not even SENT yet and i didnt even SENt the money to him yet. Both parties didnt suffer any lost.. but Of course, TIme.. not only froggy lost his time , i also did.. of course he might lost more time than me because he needs to do calculatations and stuff.. i apologised to him 3 titmes already.. I appreciate what he had done to me too..
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 16:20:46
DasToks wrote: you clearly dont understand whats going on then, so stay out of it. thanks
i know what happened, it really feels bad to see your efforts being wasted in front of you. but the language you are using, showing no emotions, seems to me you live alone or maybe you don't love your mom. but atleast respect jo's efforts =/ -
Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 16:21:50
If your mother doesn't let you trade don't fucking agree beforehand. This is all your fault, not the traders and not your mother's.
utkarsh wrote: i know what happened, it really feels bad to see your efforts being wasted in front of you. but the language you are using, showing no emotions, seems to me you live alone or maybe you don't love your mom. but atleast respect jo's efforts =/
I don't know what you are talking about. Jo has wasted a lot of time on utkarsh's hands, how does him being enraged mean he doesn't love his own mother. What the fuck are you talking about. -
Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 16:26:20
Honestly, I wouldnt mind if you only asked me once how much it will cost. But nope, you asked me 4~5 times, with me ACTIVELY changing the shopping cart to suit ur demand. I definitely lost my time here, where I could use it to do something productive (or surf UPSB, not that productive). You on the other hand? You're looking for sellers. Thats the time you will be spending anyways. Frog~
Jo wrote: not only u wasted ur time, i also wasted my time.. and yes IM TRADING with someone in US. my mom allows me to Buy from him why?: he has 29 positive feedbacks he does not get ANNOYED with all of my questions, hes a good person i asked about him , everyone say he is good, trusted , fast seller he offered me a good deal.. although we have been negotiating for a Long time, hes okay about it if i cancel the trade. ( and u only have 3 positive so its not fully 'secured'.. i really appreciate what froggy did like calculate the stuff, but when u have a better deal Of course u would go for it.. but when the package is SENT u HAVE to trade with the person.. but its not even SENT yet and i didnt even SENt the money to him yet. Both parties didnt suffer any lost.. but Of course, TIme.. not only froggy lost his time , i also did.. of course he might lost more time than me because he needs to do calculatations and stuff.. i apologised to him 3 titmes already.. I appreciate what he had done to me too..
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 16:31:10
Jo;196013]not only u wasted ur time, i also wasted my time.. and yes IM TRADING with someone in US. my mom allows me to Buy from him why?: he has 29 positive feedbacks he does not get ANNOYED with all of my questions, hes a good person i asked about him , everyone say he is good, trusted , fast seller he offered me a good deal.. although we have been negotiating for a Long time, hes okay about it if i cancel the trade. ( and u only have 3 positive so its not fully 'secured'.. i really appreciate what froggy did like calculate the stuff, but when u have a better deal Of course u would go for it.. but when the package is SENT u HAVE to trade with the person.. but its not even SENT yet and i didnt even SENt the money to him yet. Both parties didnt suffer any lost.. but Of course, TIme.. not only froggy lost his time , i also did.. of course he might lost more time than me because he needs to do calculatations and stuff.. i apologised to him 3 titmes already.. I appreciate what he had done to me too..[/QUOTE] lost in time? both parties didnt suffer any lost? i lost money mate and your telling im not "secured" when your forgetting the link i gave you to the vouche page. with contains over 100 ppl saying im super trusted, including the admins in the site. ROFL you need to understand. i dont care anymore that you send to him instead to me, i care that while you were talking to me about it, and kept changing your mind over and over again while i lose money and spend effort, you talking to another dude on the items. and have i ever got pissed about you asking questions? you never asked me any, so how can i get pissed at it? [QUOTE=utkarsh;196014]i know what happened, it really feels bad to see your efforts being wasted in front of you. but the language you are using, showing no emotions, seems to me you live alone or maybe you don't love your mom. but atleast respect jo's efforts =/[/QUOTE] language? i kept my language but now thats it. fuck off retard, you dont know who i am or my family, so dont tell me i dont love my mom or leave alone your not related to this, nor i asked for your opinion about my personal life so gtfo and stop analizing me you 11years old kid, learn how to respect other people and behave instead of shoving your nose where you shouldnt! and what jo's efforts am i suppose to respect? that he told me hes busy with school and he will send next week, or that he suddenly cant sent to me. and you retard missing the point, i never said he should dis-respect his mother or do anything the opposite to what she said i only said most of hes trades will be "far" so dont jump to conclusions saying i said stuff that i havent said! [QUOTE=eurocracy wrote: If your mother doesn't let you trade don't fucking agree beforehand. This is all your fault, not the traders and not your mother's. I don't know what you are talking about. Jo has wasted a lot of time on utkarsh's hands, how does him being enraged mean he doesn't love his own mother. What the fuck are you talking about.
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 16:40:18
@utkarsh His mom is allowing him to trade utkarsh so obviously distance is not the issue as originally stated If distance is the issue then that's not the reason since Distance from Israel to Malaysia is 4731 Miles or 7613 Km Distance from Colorado (USA) to Mayalsia is 9032 Miles or 14535 Km So my guesstimate was pretty accurate. It's actually about twice as far. Initial post saying no trade was due to distance so another issue here.
utkarsh wrote: i know what happened, it really feels bad to see your efforts being wasted in front of you. but the language you are using, showing no emotions, seems to me you live alone or maybe you don't love your mom. but atleast respect jo's efforts =/
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 16:40:47
@DasToks ok cool down man, i am not 11 years old, and that language for me was f*ing rude and i mean it. but i dun wanna move on more into this fight.
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 16:45:57
utkarsh wrote: @DasToks ok cool down man, i am not 11 years old, and that language for me was f*ing rude and i mean it. but i dun wanna move on more into this fight.
then dont talk like you did and jump to false conclusions and intervein with stuff that isnt related to you, nor saying stuff i said, which i didnt. and now that like 7ppl agreed on me and Froggy side, whats going to happend? am i going to get Compensation for the money loss? can i -rep him now? is he going to get punished? -
Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 17:19:52
@Jo You are new but there is a good and bad trade etiquette. If you agree on something don't back out. Just say " I'm thinking about it. let me get back to you" In many countries verbal agreements are binding. Written words, emails, pms are all binding for many legal purposes. Just learn to trade property and you'll be fine. Be courteous and don't waste other people's time unless you are serious about the trade. And we all have excuses for backing out of things (I've done it before and we probably all have) but make sure it's either the truth or remotely believable. You can tell someone you can't trade because your mom says it's too far then trade with someone that's basically on the opposite side of the planet. reason can be low feedback/no feedback but please make this decision early in the process so the other trader can move on and not spend valuable time. There is strategy to trading and negotiations but there is a right un-written way to go about it. Hopefully your next trades will be smoother.
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 17:22:54
penwish. thanks i'll follow ur method from now on.. thanks a bunch...
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Date: Mon, Apr 30 2012 17:28:13
so im not going to get compensation for my money loss? i cant even -rep him for all the trouble he caused me and @Froggy? really?
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Date: Fri, May 4 2012 08:36:52
@Saurkk have 2 negative feedback but he ask me to send first because he has over +1xx feedback on FPSB .... should i send first? or he send first???????
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Date: Fri, May 4 2012 08:50:09
He should send first. When you're using this forum to trade, you use the stats shown here. [B]UNLESS[/B] you guys are using FPSB to trade, in that case you will need to send first. Not claiming that he have any intention to lie about his feedback, but think what would happen if people claim they have +1xx feedback in this random forum he uses.. and ask you to send first? Frog~
FRspinner wrote: PenwisH[/MENTION] Saurkk[/MENTION] have 2 negative feedback but he ask me to send first because he has over +1xx feedback on FPSB .... should i send first? or he send first???????
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Date: Fri, May 4 2012 09:08:56
yep . he said he has more feedback so i send first ........... just speechless ... so i just ask moderators to done this
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Date: Fri, May 4 2012 09:09:44
Can someone delete my 2 false negative feedback please? ^^'
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Date: Fri, May 4 2012 09:15:03
saurkk as long as i know . it's only moderator can change it . because the feedback is about the trader feedback for you
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Date: Fri, May 4 2012 09:23:15
So, @PenwisH, can you please? ^^
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Date: Fri, May 4 2012 12:39:39
Froggy wrote: He should send first. When you're using this forum to trade, you use the stats shown here. [B]UNLESS[/B] you guys are using FPSB to trade, in that case you will need to send first. Not claiming that he have any intention to lie about his feedback, but think what would happen if people claim they have +1xx feedback in this random forum he uses.. and ask you to send first? Frog~
Ask him for a link to the feedback page, and check it yourself. XD Languages may be different, but feedback colours and + or - are all the same. :) Although Froggy is right, you're trading on UPSB and not FPSB, so going by general, unspoken trade guidelines, the ones with negative feedback will send first. It's up to your discretion, really. -
Date: Fri, May 4 2012 12:46:56
@Saurkk: As Eternity said: Normally the one with Bl will always snd first, no matter how many Wl he has! Especially in your case when six of your eight last trades are either neutral, or negative! Source.
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Date: Fri, May 4 2012 12:55:18
I know but I have two FALSE negative feedback. One of who add me one doesn't know how to delete it, and the other is a bad trader who have rage because I have put him a BL point because I have never got his pens...
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Date: Fri, May 4 2012 13:07:08
Syrti;196849]@Saurkk: As Eternity said: Normally the one with Bl will always snd first, no matter how many Wl he has! Especially in your case when six of your eight last trades are either neutral, or negative! Source.[/QUOTE] Well considering the list that Syrti posted, I'd certainly say to have him send first. (always ask for the link for their feedback page if they claim to have whitelist on another board, for cross-reference). Even ignoring the two 'false negatives', the FPSB list is enough to warrant a request for him to send first. [QUOTE=Saurkk wrote: I know but I have two FALSE negative feedback. One of who add me one doesn't know how to delete it, and the other is a bad trader who have rage because I have put him a BL point because I have never got his pens...
Ask the 1st guy to PM a moderator to change it (or do it yourself and tell the moderator which user's feedback needs to be changed). As for the other one...pens can get lost in the mail, and if he stated that he wouldn't take any responsibility for postal service screwups, then yeah. (meeting that kind of people in unfortunate, though.) -
Date: Fri, May 4 2012 13:13:51
@Saurkk Send request to hippo. And you will need to contact them to let the moderators know that you have worked it out and to say to remove negative feedback. That is only way it is removed here on upsb. thx
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Date: Fri, May 4 2012 13:34:06
Tinarrier have -3 on his blacklist (its the other one), and no positive feedback...
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Date: Fri, May 4 2012 13:50:07
@Saurkk Okay i remove that one.
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Date: Fri, May 4 2012 14:21:01
Thank you!
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Date: Wed, May 9 2012 19:33:42
@PenwisH, how much are justmeets worth nowadays?
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Date: Wed, May 9 2012 19:41:33
@Jan You can still get them from jap traders since they are avialable at B&M stores there so prolly 25-30ish
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Date: Thu, May 10 2012 19:55:38
@Jon , just to confirm, i have sent, and you have not recieved. I sent one week ago, in the US, mail usually takes 2 days to arrive right? I'm not calling you a scammer jon, i'm just trying to contact you indirectly since ur inbox is full and you don't have a place to post visitor messages on your profile.
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Date: Fri, May 11 2012 22:59:26
drgripable wrote: @Jon , just to confirm, i have sent, and you have not recieved. I sent one week ago, in the US, mail usually takes 2 days to arrive right? I'm not calling you a scammer jon, i'm just trying to contact you indirectly since ur inbox is full and you don't have a place to post visitor messages on your profile.
Didn't realize inbox was full, my bad. Also, there IS a place to leave visitor messages. I understand you have sent, and I never accused you of anything. I do not believe this was the right place to post your message. But ignoring that, there isn't much to say. -
Date: Sat, May 12 2012 00:04:58
@Jon really? i couldn't find it. It said Visitor messages. Then no place to type. :/ hmmmmmm but yah. I guess we'll just wait..unless the letter got LOST
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Date: Sat, May 12 2012 00:48:48
drgripable wrote: @Jon really? i couldn't find it. It said Visitor messages. Then no place to type. :/ hmmmmmm but yah. I guess we'll just wait..unless the letter got LOST
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Date: Mon, May 14 2012 09:44:35
Just recently traded with @ninjamagic7, I have sent and you have not received. Thus, I lost $30 ish. Not calling you a scammer, but i just want to make sure that this isn't a recurring event.
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Date: Tue, May 15 2012 02:45:11
Uhm I wouldn't jump unless it's been a while. How long has it been since you sent amd has he/she confirmed receiving? When did you last talk to him/her?
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Date: Sat, May 19 2012 04:05:26
@Nachoaddict Sent about three weeks ago, last contacted about a week ago.
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Date: Tue, May 22 2012 23:44:09
Sent payment via registered mail WITH tracking number to @, and he claims not to have received it even though it was already delivered on 16th May. Proof:
Opinions?Spoiler
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Date: Wed, May 23 2012 00:33:59
@Eternity I won an auction for a miffy kt from him a few weeks ago but he never returned my pms so I never sent.
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Date: Wed, May 23 2012 00:48:47
The original FPSB post cannot be found, he probably deleted. I'd just like to hear everyone's opinions on the matter while waiting for him to explain. If he cannot provide an explanation, then he will be given negative feedback.
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Date: Wed, May 23 2012 12:54:52
Eternity, sorry it was stocked at my local post. i go to my Post office for keep your letter with your money. I sent it tomorow ;) sorry if I was a scammer I would not ask to see your at your local post office.. Sorry for problem.
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Date: Wed, May 23 2012 14:24:53
If a moderator sees this, can they please delete the above posts, the issue has been resolved. Thank you!
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Date: Wed, May 23 2012 22:10:49
@ So i've sent you a lot of pms about this, but what is the status of the auction? You said I won and to pm you, but you havent responded. Is 50 USD for the miffy kt + 5 USD shipping still good?
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Date: Mon, May 28 2012 23:13:42
Whoadie wrote: @ So i've sent you a lot of pms about this, but what is the status of the auction? You said I won and to pm you, but you havent responded. Is 50 USD for the miffy kt + 5 USD shipping still good?
55$ for a DR M&M? That is expensive! It kinda goes like this...... 20$ for the M&M barrel 10$ for the dr grip tips 10$ for 2 color twins and sailors(or dr grip grips) =40$ thats how i count it up. Because i bought a miffy barrel for 20$ and i have gotten lots of offters to buy a DR M&M for 40$ free shipping. -
Date: Tue, May 29 2012 02:25:59
@PenwisH my feedback is higher than a trader , so he pay me the money via paypal . Once i received , i send it off the pens . But now he said he didn't received any pens . what should i do ? But i sent it off
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Date: Tue, May 29 2012 02:35:53
well even if it is lost it is always responsibility of the sender . did you get tracking?
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Date: Wed, May 30 2012 12:26:20
@Zombo
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Date: Fri, Jun 1 2012 13:56:38
@FRspinner Ask him for the receipt for using the postal service. If he does not reply, and you don't want to reveal the name, then PM me the name and I'll see what I can do. It seemed strange that you have 2 problematic trades going on almost at the same time.. I'm just pointing it out. Frog~
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Date: Thu, Jun 7 2012 03:45:15
How much would a miffy body with lots of scratches under both sides (under where the caps would go) and minor scratches all over the barrel (like a normal used one) and 2 Miffy caps that have screw marks on the nubs and scratches on them be? When it's DCed you cant see the big (sorta) scratches on the body.
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Date: Thu, Jun 7 2012 03:54:01
That seems like it's in pretty bad condition :/ I'd say the body by itself is around $5-7 depending on just how badly it's scratched. With scratched caps maybe $6-9 :/ Really depends on the quality of the parts. I'm assuming it's pretty bad.
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Date: Thu, Jun 7 2012 12:59:25
Dang... I just bought it for $15 and I assumed it would be in pretty good condition since the trading guide said "pens or stuff you have SHOULD be in good condition , like not broken, scratched excessively or dirty. If it’s the case like a one or two scratches inform the trader about it." Thanks for answering me Nacho.
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Date: Thu, Jun 7 2012 14:04:58
how much is a perfect condition rubbed miffy?
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Date: Thu, Jun 7 2012 14:58:49
If it's decent condition, $10-15. If it's in good condition, $15 is a good price. If they are in perfect condition, $15-20 or 25ish. However I've seen them easily go $20+ in auctions. It's very rare that you will get a decent deal on miffies through auctions nowadays :/ That's if it has the logo. If it's been rubbed, it should be $2-4 cheaper IMO.
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Date: Thu, Jun 7 2012 19:11:36
What's considered "decent" condition?
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Date: Thu, Jun 7 2012 22:17:12
Slightly dirty, that can be cleaned with soap and water or some sort. No visible scratches, but may feel a bit used (if u have a new one to compare with) Anything worse than that and I personally would sell it at extreme low price. Frog~
Colbyy wrote: What's considered "decent" condition?
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Date: Thu, Jun 7 2012 22:30:47
Yeah decent means it's got a few very insignificant minor scratches from spinning. Perfect means it's in immaculate condition as if it's completely new. Good in in between decent and perfect.
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Date: Thu, Jun 7 2012 22:41:49
Nachoaddict wrote: Yeah decent means it's got a few very insignificant minor scratches from spinning. Perfect means it's in immaculate condition as if it's completely new. Good in in between decent and perfect.
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Date: Thu, Jun 7 2012 22:47:12
$15 include or exclude shipping? if include, it's very close to terrible, depending on how much you want it too. if exclude, pretty overpriced IMO. Frog~
Colbyy wrote: So the one I bought for $15 was a terrible deal then, right?
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Date: Thu, Jun 7 2012 22:55:17
$15 shipping already included. So I pretty much got screwed over..
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Date: Fri, Jun 8 2012 00:04:21
Yeah if it's in as bad condition as I think it's in :/
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Date: Thu, Jun 14 2012 10:09:15
Recently, I came across a guy who sold a buster cyl for $26!!! Is it worth it? The net says its only $10-$15!!! Help!!!:O
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Date: Thu, Jun 14 2012 10:15:43
Unless it has insane yet nice tape cut and special customization to it, no its not worth it. 1 Buster ONLY needs 2 Airfits, 1 Super Tip, and 2 Comssa Caps. Frog~
tom19 wrote: Recently, I came across a guy who sold a buster cyl for $26!!! Is it worth it? The net says its only $10-$15!!! Help!!!:O
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Date: Fri, Jun 15 2012 00:59:15
How much is an old namae worth? I bought like 8 packs like a year ago and recently I found out that they're worth quite a bit (more than $0.50 ea at daiso lmao) now?
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Date: Fri, Jun 15 2012 01:28:54
Don't listen to the noob frog :trollface: you actually need a backplug too =p
Froggy wrote: Unless it has insane yet nice tape cut and special customization to it, no its not worth it. 1 Buster ONLY needs 2 Airfits, 1 Super Tip, and 2 Comssa Caps. Frog~
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Date: Fri, Jun 15 2012 01:46:28
tom19 wrote: Recently, I came across a guy who sold a buster cyl for $26!!! Is it worth it? The net says its only $10-$15!!! Help!!!:O
based on average trade value prices. airfits 3x2 comssa caps 0.5x2 st 1. total 8 sgd. thats the rough cost price. furthermore all the parts can be found in sg other than comssa caps -
Date: Fri, Jun 15 2012 02:43:47
They do worth quite a bit, if u take the initial price into consideration. Like don't expect to receive $10 per marker. I would say $2 per marker is reasonable. You could go higher by a buck or something, depending on the buyer's demand. Frog~ p.s. Totally forgot about backplug :facepalm: lol
Colbyy wrote: How much is an old namae worth? I bought like 8 packs like a year ago and recently I found out that they're worth quite a bit (more than $0.50 ea at daiso lmao) now?
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Date: Fri, Jun 15 2012 03:53:10
Forgot about backplug? And yeah I meant quite a bit based of off of what they used to be worth each.
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Date: Fri, Jun 15 2012 23:42:23
Price of pink and yellow hyper jell plus just yellow hyperjell body Also the upsb wristband walrus sold? If a kuzu has a crack in the cap how much does the value go down? Ty :3 in advance
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Date: Sun, Jun 17 2012 16:12:55
yoppi000 wrote: Price of pink and yellow hyper jell plus just yellow hyperjell body Also the upsb wristband walrus sold? If a kuzu has a crack in the cap how much does the value go down? Ty :3 in advance
I don't think a yellow hj body is worth anything. I think the kuzu goes down by the price of a new hj cap if it's a pretty noticeable crack. -
Date: Sun, Jun 17 2012 18:53:14
yoppi000 wrote: Price of pink and yellow hyper jell plus just yellow hyperjell body Also the upsb wristband walrus sold? If a kuzu has a crack in the cap how much does the value go down? Ty :3 in advance
Pink and yellow hyperjells are going for $5 each for full pens. The body is practically worthless :/ even if it's from a yellow hyperjell. Wristband depends on the price you bought it for. If it's not tainted by sweat and other things you may be able to sell it for a little more than you paid but as far as I can tell there's not much demand for them. Crack in the Kuzu cap means you need to replace it with a new one and declip the cap which is labor. I'd say the value goes down by $2-3 depending on the color of the hyperjell clip as pink and yellow are more rare. -
Date: Mon, Jun 18 2012 14:43:26
Harnas PPP is on the watch list for now. Getting Tons of pms about him scamming now
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Date: Mon, Jun 18 2012 18:47:19
Ty :3 I managed to sell my wristband for $5 if anyone is interested in about what they are selling for
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Date: Sun, Jun 24 2012 17:03:53
How much are red unmodded zebra f3000 pens worth each?
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Date: Wed, Jun 27 2012 03:44:38
Someone can say to @Abyss to clean his inbox? I'm waiting for a package for a few months now, and he neither delete his inbox or try to contact me. :S
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Date: Wed, Jun 27 2012 03:57:02
@Someone can say to Abyss to clean his inbox? I'm waiting for a package for a few months now, and he neither delete his inbox or try to contact me. :S[/QUOTE]
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Date: Tue, Jul 17 2012 01:30:33
from penwish....
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Date: Tue, Jul 17 2012 01:32:57
no.... try getting more o.O Frog~
Raiz wrote: from penwish....
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Date: Tue, Jul 17 2012 01:39:18
Froggy wrote: no.... try getting more o.O Frog~
um, i dont get what your saying im sorry. -
Date: Tue, Jul 17 2012 01:56:34
I'm assuming RSVP 7 bucks + shipping 8 bucks = 15bucks? get more so you reach 26 bucks items, so you get free shipping instead. (you live in US right? US people gets free shipping if their order is over 25.99) Frog~
Raiz wrote: um, i dont get what your saying im sorry.
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Date: Tue, Jul 17 2012 02:02:58
Froggy wrote: I'm assuming RSVP 7 bucks + shipping 8 bucks = 15bucks? get more so you reach 26 bucks items, so you get free shipping instead. (you live in US right? US people gets free shipping if their order is over 25.99) Frog~
Oh ok, thanks man. and yes im in the US. -
Date: Tue, Jul 17 2012 04:08:22
? shipping in usa is not 8 bucks. how do you get 15$ for rsvp mx? if you are in usa and can mod pick up a rsvp and rsvp rt pen and make ur own
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Date: Mon, Jul 23 2012 17:28:01
can i trust Pieniek? anyone trade or buy with him before?
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Date: Mon, Jul 23 2012 17:41:47
yes people have traded with him before. not sure recently though
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Date: Sun, Jul 29 2012 05:04:59
How much are neon waterfalls worth? (Super pirat body and neon Reynolds body) Also clear waterfall worth? Oh and watercolour kt?
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Date: Sun, Jul 29 2012 05:15:25
really no worth. if you are out of france you'll have to pay typically 25-35$ for a neon waterfall atleast that seems to be trade value of it. If you are in france much lower of course since is back in production. clear waterfall not really rare so normal waterfall range. watercolour kt is whatever you want for it. can be 30-50$
Apocalyptic Shadows wrote: How much are neon waterfalls worth? (Super pirat body and neon Reynolds body) Also clear waterfall worth? Oh and watercolour kt?
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Date: Sun, Jul 29 2012 06:02:00
I traded with suixidal for couple weeks. I sent he pens to him. And now he blocked me on Skype. He is just a retarded noob
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Date: Sun, Jul 29 2012 21:44:00
What's the current value of the UCPSB BIC-Roundsticks? (The blue ones with the orange logo)
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Date: Tue, Aug 7 2012 12:10:29
Does anyone know how much a yellow HGG is worth?
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Date: Tue, Aug 7 2012 22:02:21
for trade value 4-7$ prollly it's prolly one of the most desired since well shops dont' ahve it lol
Apocalyptic Shadows wrote: Does anyone know how much a yellow HGG is worth?
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Date: Fri, Aug 10 2012 13:44:13
anyone knows the price of an old namae cap?
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Date: Fri, Aug 10 2012 13:58:03
One of those items that can go from 2-5$ depending on who you trade with. if people care it's told a little more and if they don't' a little less
... wrote: anyone knows the price of an old namae cap?
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Date: Fri, Aug 10 2012 14:28:39
How much are yellow signos?
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Date: Fri, Aug 10 2012 15:06:59
too rare. it really depends on seller. Frog~
ShadrCom3t wrote: How much are yellow signos?
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Date: Sat, Aug 11 2012 04:21:15
HenryS wrote: anyone selling M&Ms i want the real thing
you are posting the wrong place .. you must open a new thread below this trade value/scammer discussion .. -
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2012 04:32:16
Either that or you go to the thread called trade partners. -.-
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Date: Tue, Aug 28 2012 12:07:12
how much is an impact MX made by Kam himself worth?
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Date: Tue, Aug 28 2012 13:03:57
how much do u love kam? cost of impact mx + your love for him = value of it
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Date: Tue, Aug 28 2012 13:58:31
i.suk wrote: how much is an impact MX made by Kam himself worth?
what alvaris said and depends on if he signed it, and condition and of course any tapecuts/gripcuts etc. -
Date: Wed, Aug 29 2012 02:41:15
Ask @Kyoflow he got one :D
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Date: Wed, Aug 29 2012 05:06:34
@i.suk wait is he selling you one? he seemed pretty unwilling to part with his pens so its worth quite a bit. one thing to keep in mind, these pens have been through alot and are old, so they aren't gonna be in perfect condition. for my impact i traded him an LNT_Phat kuzu that i bought for $40.
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Date: Wed, Aug 29 2012 05:07:21
It's the one that Kam sold 30 bucks each back in v3. It doesn't have a signed insert, but there's a this code that Kam printed on the insert... Making it as unique as a siggy. also, seller claims mint condition. Frog~
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Date: Tue, Sep 4 2012 11:36:17
2 Metal tipped gripmatics, 2 Coloured grip gripmatics, 2 Metal G3s for 1 RSVP MX, 2 Sunburst, 2 RSVP. Is this trade fair?
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Date: Tue, Sep 4 2012 12:48:36
all depends on where traders are from and what kind of sunburst they are
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Date: Wed, Sep 5 2012 07:53:51
Does anyone know the price for the Syndoraemonex Mod? (It uses a Doraemon pencil body, Synectic Brand caps and Nextage Shaker tips)
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Date: Wed, Sep 5 2012 12:38:09
it's too much of a niche pen you will have to find a buyer who knows what that is and wants it. unless it's common it's hard to price.
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Date: Wed, Sep 5 2012 12:41:46
presidentGPC wrote: Does anyone know the price for the Syndoraemonex Mod? (It uses a Doraemon pencil body, Synectic Brand caps and Nextage Shaker tips)
picture?? -
Date: Wed, Sep 5 2012 12:51:53
FRspinner wrote: picture??
It is in my trade thread picture (at the bottom): http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/dp593a7f/verkauf.jpg Penwish: Yeah I know this problem, but I thought maybe someone knows what it is usually traded for (just an estimation). But however, thank you :) -
Date: Wed, Sep 5 2012 13:42:03
how much is a waterfall with pink caps worth(pink reynolds)?
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Date: Wed, Sep 5 2012 15:30:22
agillitrhiz wrote: how much is a waterfall with pink caps worth(pink reynolds)?
I think that it depends on which type of Reynolds caps they are. There has recently been a new Papermate one so it might be cheaper. :/ -
Date: Fri, Sep 7 2012 12:48:48
How much are Beifas worth nowadays? [ nowadays or now a days?]
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Date: Fri, Sep 14 2012 06:54:38
It should be around $15 if both sided, This is just a rough figure.
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Date: Fri, Sep 14 2012 08:56:58
15$ for what? pink waterfall? if it's an authentic one. there are going to be very few people who trade it for 15$. beifas worth depends on how bad you want it. but 2$-3 or 4(colored ones)
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Date: Mon, Oct 1 2012 08:24:17
How much would colour express markers cost singly and in packs of 10? How much are duraflashes worth? Fibracolours too?
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Date: Fri, Oct 12 2012 16:55:54
How much would silicone gel tips sell for (from daiso)
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Date: Sun, Oct 14 2012 05:22:54
A bunch of Daiso's stopped selling them if I remember correctly but not a lot of mods use them so I would say a little more than what you paid to get them. How much did you pay? Or are you purchasing them?
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Date: Sun, Oct 14 2012 06:03:26
Colbyy wrote: How much would silicone gel tips sell for (from daiso)
Silicon tips are used for slofis dc, serket dc and dr grip tip subs. They are valuable for those that want authentic jeb mods since silicon tips are mostly discontinued -
Date: Tue, Nov 6 2012 19:35:54
@Lucid is a scammer i traded a kt and dr grip tips for a kt, he said he sent it but he cant even confirm his address he send it to or give me any other information as proof
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Date: Tue, Nov 6 2012 19:36:27
@Lucid is a scammer i traded a kt and dr grip tips for a kt, he said he sent it but he cant even confirm his address he send it to or give me any other information as proof
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Date: Wed, Nov 14 2012 03:37:42
@Rudra Over 4 weeks ago, I paid $30 for Rudra's Yellow Joey DC (cause I don't know how much authentic Yellow Signo DX's cost). I know it's outrageous, but he hasn't sent NOR logged in since I paid him that large sum. I opened a Paypal dispute... what should I do?
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Date: Wed, Nov 14 2012 04:14:04
well paypal will take care of it if he doesn't have proof of shipping so be patient. or wait till he logs back on. he seems legit tho so dunno maybe something happened to him
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Date: Thu, Nov 15 2012 02:30:56
He does seem legit :dunno: I emailed him. I've had this happen before with yoyos... so I'm a little bit worried. Paypal said if the dispute isn't resolved in 45 days, it'll close. Does that mean I'll get my money back or that they'll just close the case?
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Date: Thu, Nov 15 2012 02:59:39
if you want money back you have to escalate it to a claim if he doenst respond
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Date: Sat, Nov 17 2012 03:05:06
Has he responded yet? Let me know if he does not i can talk to him
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Date: Sun, Nov 25 2012 17:26:25
Sorry for not replying sooner- no he hasn't replied.
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Date: Wed, Nov 28 2012 02:40:51
Apparently PayPal automatically closes the dispute WITHOUT warning you. (cause it said it would warn me but it didn't.) What should I do now? It's $30... F my life. :walrus:
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Date: Wed, Nov 28 2012 02:45:10
it clsoes the dispute without warning because you didn't escale to claim so they assumed you fixed it with him. you have to escalate to claim or you are SOL and -30$
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Date: Thu, Nov 29 2012 06:06:05
:dunno: oh well. Paypal had an assurance saying it would notify me if the dispute would close when I first opened it... wtvr. Thanks for helping anyway.
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Date: Sun, Feb 3 2013 18:25:58
I'm wondering if original reynold neon 094's retain their value now that there are the neon subs out. Can anyone answer this?
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Date: Sun, Feb 3 2013 20:17:48
pretty sure the value has dropped quite a bit.
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Date: Tue, Feb 12 2013 10:43:43
Not sure what happened but i just erased all feedback left for and by Matt last day or so...yeah.. pm me if things are amiss
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Date: Sat, Feb 16 2013 14:37:19
Matt don't answer anymore to MP, i send 31$, no news.
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Date: Sat, Feb 16 2013 20:32:31
pretty sure matt is scamming people now so you may be $-31 =(
mot wrote: Matt don't answer anymore to MP, i send 31$, no news.
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Date: Sun, Feb 17 2013 03:10:11
PenwisH wrote: pretty sure matt is scamming people now so you may be $-31 =(
Oh fk real? O_O so meaning I should get a refund now? -
Date: Sun, Feb 17 2013 03:46:44
wait before i go falsely accusing i should probably get more details but ask around. i heard something was fishy...
L-in wrote: Oh fk real? O_O so meaning I should get a refund now?
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Date: Sun, Feb 17 2013 04:00:52
PenwisH wrote: wait before i go falsely accusing i should probably get more details but ask around. i heard something was fishy...
I really hope he's honest as before.. but IDK~ I opened a dispute before the payment expires anyway, I'll see whether pens or refund come.. -
Date: Sun, Feb 17 2013 04:10:58
If he is scamming, you have his address and this is a criminal offense?
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Date: Sun, Feb 17 2013 05:23:18
anything under 5,000$ they usually don't give a crap especially internationally.
Mats wrote: If he is scamming, you have his address and this is a criminal offense?
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Date: Fri, May 10 2013 00:53:06
whats the value of a hyperjell pack these days?
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Date: Sun, Jun 16 2013 02:36:13
Can anyone tell me if the "stars" version of the namae is discontinued and if so, how much are they worth? How much are the regular old namaes worth?
Stars Namae is in between the old namaes on the left and the colored pens on the right -
Date: Thu, Jul 11 2013 09:03:16
Hi. Anyone know whats the value of an old namae in SG now?:)
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Date: Sun, Aug 25 2013 21:49:53
What is the value of a MSP now? Regards, Zen
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Date: Sat, Nov 9 2013 16:35:51
I have an unopened FULL set mint condition miffy & melanie pack, how much does this go for these days?
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Date: Sat, Nov 9 2013 18:22:18
NapkinVII wrote: I have an unopened FULL set mint condition miffy & melanie pack, how much does this go for these days?
Alott It depends how much your willing to sell it for But it well sell for a lot If it's a pack over 100 -
Date: Mon, Nov 25 2013 20:25:17
Im not sure if this is the right place to post this, but please tell me if im wrong. OK, I contacted Zen about a trade. We decided we would ship at the same time. I would be shipping 2 mini rsvp and he would be shippping 2 rsvps and 2 ballsigns, we were also both adding in freebies. So we both shipped on 10-28-13 same time. On 11-4-13 I asked if he had gotten mine? He said yes(7 days it took for him to get mine). I still hadnt recived his. I told him that and he asked me to wait a few more days. He said he might of gotten the address wrong. On 11-6-13 I told him I still hadnt received it and he said he would resend on 11-7-13. Then On 11-8-13 I asked if he had shipped it. He told me he would then ship it on 11-11-13. I said fine. On 11-15-13 I told him I hadnt got it. He Told me i needed to wait 2 WEEKS! ( We both said we would use the cheapest shipping, which i did and he got it in 1 week.) he also said he used the package I sent to save on postage.He then said he recived the 1st package that he had sent back from the PO. I asked him on 11-22-13 if he had the reciept for either package he shipped. No response. Today is 11-25-13 which is 2 weeks after 11-11-13 which was the date he shipped the 2nd package. And I didnt receive it in the mail today. A few things to note are that we are both in the USA, Im in Florida and hes In NewYork. Im not sure what to do. Please help. My first trade.
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Date: Tue, Nov 26 2013 04:23:24
luckyitsonlyacoupleofpens
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Date: Tue, Nov 26 2013 11:23:29
DioBrando wrote: luckyitsonlyacoupleofpens
Ye Im glad it was. -
Date: Sun, Dec 1 2013 00:35:24
Ryland613 wrote: Im not sure if this is the right place to post this, but please tell me if im wrong. OK, I contacted Zen about a trade. We decided we would ship at the same time. I would be shipping 2 mini rsvp and he would be shippping 2 rsvps and 2 ballsigns, we were also both adding in freebies. So we both shipped on 10-28-13 same time. On 11-4-13 I asked if he had gotten mine? He said yes(7 days it took for him to get mine). I still hadnt recived his. I told him that and he asked me to wait a few more days. He said he might of gotten the address wrong. On 11-6-13 I told him I still hadnt received it and he said he would resend on 11-7-13. Then On 11-8-13 I asked if he had shipped it. He told me he would then ship it on 11-11-13. I said fine. On 11-15-13 I told him I hadnt got it. He Told me i needed to wait 2 WEEKS! ( We both said we would use the cheapest shipping, which i did and he got it in 1 week.) he also said he used the package I sent to save on postage.He then said he recived the 1st package that he had sent back from the PO. I asked him on 11-22-13 if he had the reciept for either package he shipped. No response. Today is 11-25-13 which is 2 weeks after 11-11-13 which was the date he shipped the 2nd package. And I didnt receive it in the mail today. A few things to note are that we are both in the USA, Im in Florida and hes In NewYork. Im not sure what to do. Please help. My first trade.
I can beat him up for you if you want lol I love in New York too -
Date: Mon, Feb 17 2014 03:31:00
What is the selling price of a Kuzu with all original parts (yellow zebra grip) and a miffy body?
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Date: Sun, Aug 17 2014 15:14:48
Hello, it`s been a while since I spinned, and wanted to know how much a M&M and an pentel watercolor goes for thanks
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Date: Tue, Oct 28 2014 22:09:24
What will be the price of a Dr.Ct ?
