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General Discussion / WT11 - The Final - Videos OUT!

  1. Zombo
    Date: Sat, May 7 2011 16:39:09

    http://www.worldpenspinning.com/?p=607

  2. Froggy
    Date: Sat, May 7 2011 16:46:49

    i might be a bit slow on this.. but.. what?! snow lost?... PrinceXD

  3. Raos
    Date: Sat, May 7 2011 16:48:01

    BATTLE OF THE MXs HERE WE COME

  4. Greendrago10
    Date: Sat, May 7 2011 17:21:19

    i feel as if this thread was unnecessary..we already know who's left, but..k. keep the pattern going hahah

  5. the noodler
    Date: Sat, May 7 2011 20:10:04

    wtf i thought either snow or supawit would win... guess neither of them will now

  6. Light
    Date: Sat, May 7 2011 20:29:55

    77777777 finish the fight

  7. AwonW
    Date: Sat, May 7 2011 20:42:26

    KIN

  8. hoiboy
    Date: Sat, May 7 2011 21:05:23

    KINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKINKIN I'm actually suprised that Supawit lost.

  9. Riley
    Date: Sat, May 7 2011 21:18:16

    I really wanted kin or snow to win the tournament, but after reading taichi's review, I definitely agree that supawit should've won. :/ I'm still voting for kin to win this though.

  10. Zkhan
    Date: Sat, May 7 2011 21:27:00

    Kin for the Win and what happened to snow?

  11. L-in
    Date: Sun, May 8 2011 04:10:03

    Snow, although he unfortunately lost, he is never defeated. He is the one that brings 2P2H to a new zenith, and also the one who greatly executes 2P1H in a WT. We will never forget him. And supawit127 too. Snow and supawit, we all love you, you know this. And you guys were the best, and will always be. ^_^

  12. Ulu
    Date: Sun, May 8 2011 04:22:30

    I'm shocked....

  13. sangara
    Date: Sun, May 8 2011 05:14:55

    Except kin's the best and you all need to recognize that. Basically here's what happened in layman's terms. Snow was incredibly sloppy going up against probably one of the most controlled spinners in the world, actually he is the most controlled spinner, no one can do what s777 can do. Kin just demolished, he showed that his left hand was a boss and on top of all that he uses an MX for crying out loud, none of you can do that. Supawit has been the redheaded step child in the penspinning world since he came to the scene with his buddy Peem. Basically he will always be #2 or in this case #3 or #4, someone's gotta do it. Oh and the few original mini combos that he has are ugly.

  14. Quai
    Date: Sun, May 8 2011 05:17:10

    KIN.

  15. smudgey
    Date: Sun, May 8 2011 05:34:55

    go kin ;) can everybody just stop complaining about kin>supawit. basically what sangara said. supawit is never gonna be #1. some ppl are even saying kinsupawit.

  16. r96
    Date: Sun, May 8 2011 05:37:11

    snow is the pride of psh,he is the greatest spinner and also one of the finalist~

  17. erik123098
    Date: Sun, May 8 2011 05:54:48

    Mind fuuuuu. I always thought that Supa will get it through. :/

  18. wings
    Date: Sun, May 8 2011 06:20:47

    Yay kin! wow you guys should really stop complaining like lil kids.:facepalm:

  19. pirates_of_caribbean
    Date: Sun, May 8 2011 06:24:21

    OH YEAH !!!!!!! I LOVE YOU KIN !! SUPAWIT LOST !! S777 FOR THE FINAL WIN !!

  20. Twine
    Date: Sun, May 8 2011 06:33:08

    I find it amusing how Kin was literally just as good in WT09, yet fricken A-13x got butthurt about combo time limit >.< Kin would have absolutely demolished WT09 hahahahaha. I love kin and S777 equally as much. I don't care about who wins now. I just want to see some awesome linkages :D

  21. Rude Boy
    Date: Sun, May 8 2011 06:40:13

    smudgey wrote: yeah the pen shouldn't be counted when juding the wt
    NOT. Joice of pen is yours. If you're sure you can spin well with MX, or DC comssa, go for it. Wieght of the pen isn't counted into difficulty criteria, because many times you cannot be sure with what mod someone's spinning. There's so many mod invented. This time we're sure it's an MX, but don't make an exception for one man. Anyway, I hope, that final will be freakin awesome, and both spinners have sth amazing and new to show

  22. AKS
    Date: Sun, May 8 2011 07:52:30

    haha ' XD ' , no buster again now is for the MX, eh?

  23. JC
    Date: Sun, May 8 2011 08:13:31

    I had thought (without looking at the combos) that finals would be supawit vs s777, though with some struggle for those two. I'm actually pretty surprised that kin beat supawit, though I do believe it's justified. It's pretty interesting how in '09 a buster spinner wins and now in '11, it's the complete opposite with either an MX or a light mod spinner winning. Mods generally are not taken into account for judging, and so that makes kin just unbelievable this round. Kin had a stronger combo than supawit, though it was kinda like comparing apples and oranges in some respects, but what really made supawit seem weaker this round was his control. Sacrificing control to go for difficulty wasn't a smart move against kin imo. But then we must take a step back and think, not only was kin's combo stronger but he also did it with an MX... It's pretty amazing. Though granted, some may not agree that kin's combo was stronger...but regardless, the judges have concluded that kin's combo is stronger and they are all experienced spinners who I usually trust and agree with. Though sometimes it's not the same as my own predictions, people look at things differently and value things differently...and it's the collective group of these differing values and opinions that shows the majority of the collective supporting kin's win. --When it comes down to it though, many things can be debatable because there will always be people who disagree. Anyway, next round will be interesting--both spinners focus on control and are proficient at spinning light mods. We'll see how that plays out though. (I support kin! :X lol )

  24. Krypton
    Date: Sun, May 8 2011 08:29:57

    Supawit lost D: Rooting for Stan!

  25. Sc00t
    Date: Sun, May 8 2011 08:52:46

    Riley wrote: I really wanted kin or snow to win the tournament, but after reading taichi's review, I definitely agree that supawit should've won. :/ I'm still voting for kin to win this though.
    it was biased, i could slow down supawit's video, point out all the flaws and ignore most of the good things, and make the same blog post in reverse anyway, s777's style is boring me now s777 is a more solid spinner than kin overall.. but i don't like his additude (too cocky) so kick his ass kin!

  26. Soren
    Date: Sun, May 8 2011 09:04:27

    s777 all the way!!

  27. henryORANGE
    Date: Sun, May 8 2011 10:56:21

    kin win!!!!!!!!!!!! oh no.........snow lost!?

  28. Breezy
    Date: Sun, May 8 2011 20:25:44

    henryORANGE wrote: kin win!!!!!!!!!!!! oh no.........snow lost!?
    You though snow was going to win?

  29. i.suk
    Date: Sun, May 8 2011 22:46:59

    Stare wrote: it was biased, i could slow down supawit's video, point out all the flaws and ignore most of the good things, and make the same blog post in reverse
    off topic response: then, as taichi said on his blog post, please do so. on topic: s777 hasn't used his left hand yet, and i'm pretty sure his trick/linkage array has expanded in the past year or so; he probably still has quite a bit of material to use, and has perfect execution. kin however, seems to be running out of stuff (triangle passes can't beat s777, nor can wipers or simple 'power' sequences with mx etc) idk, i want kin to win; but s777 probably will

  30. Sc00t
    Date: Mon, May 9 2011 01:24:39

    i.suk wrote: off topic response: then, as taichi said on his blog post, please do so. on topic: s777 hasn't used his left hand yet, and i'm pretty sure his trick/linkage array has expanded in the past year or so; he probably still has quite a bit of material to use, and has perfect execution. kin however, seems to be running out of stuff (triangle passes can't beat s777, nor can wipers or simple 'power' sequences with mx etc) idk, i want kin to win; but s777 probably will
    He's not worth my time or effort in doing so..

  31. darkdazh
    Date: Mon, May 9 2011 01:57:14

    Do people legitimately think Snow should've won, or is that just a favorite spinner thing? Can someone explain to me how Snow could've possibly won with his combo against s777's? And yes, s777 vs kin is perfect... I was actually a little surprised however that kin won. o__o

  32. MickChickenn
    Date: Mon, May 9 2011 02:52:30

    people like snow because he is unique. Nobody does 1p2h and 2p2h and 2p1h like he does. its cool, and he should have won.

  33. Kirby
    Date: Mon, May 9 2011 03:23:36

    I feel everyone is almost trying to be too hipster kitty with Kin and being all pro-mx and anti powertricking. Like I can see s777 maybe beating Snow, but not Kin over supawit. EDIT: NVM, Snow wrecked S777's shit.

  34. henryORANGE
    Date: Mon, May 9 2011 11:15:58

    kin win!!!!!!!! why snow lost.................. so sad

  35. eazi-penspinner
    Date: Mon, May 9 2011 12:18:02

    Stare wrote: it was biased, i could slow down supawit's video, point out all the flaws and ignore most of the good things, and make the same blog post in reverse anyway, s777's style is boring me now s777 is a more solid spinner than kin overall.. but i don't like his additude (too cocky) so kick his ass kin!
    Can you tell me what's wrong with his attitude?

  36. wyz9
    Date: Mon, May 9 2011 12:24:19

    kin kin kin kin are the best

  37. i.suk
    Date: Mon, May 9 2011 12:31:23

    Stare wrote: He's not worth my time or effort in doing so..
    'He's' as in taichi, supawit, or WT11 R5/judges? hmm, if you want to make a strong point that is worth more than mere 'personal opinion' of someone who may be thought of as yet another 'hater' (not saying you are one, just that others may think this), then do an analysis...not for taichi, but for your own standing and credibility x) i guess, if you can't be bothered, you'll just appear like another person who is randomly commenting, one who claims he can do something but has nothing to back it up, even if you indeed have good reasons as to why kin's combo is superior to supawit's...not that you really care much anyway though probably :P @darkdazh i suspect quite a few of those saying that snow should have beat s777 are fans/favourite spinner reason; but there is indeed basis for it...i guess, it's down to how much you value the work of those who pioneer or expand different areas of pen spinning, and how 'creativity' should be defined. i think in some of my previous posts i gave some reasons as to why snow should've done better against s777 (i.e. not a loss of 11-2)

  38. Enkronidus
    Date: Mon, May 9 2011 12:31:59

    eazi-penspinner wrote: Can you tell me what's wrong with his attitude?
    Let's say, his attitude is shitty enough that someone hates him so much that even post his WT11 video in a forum to let people press dislike his video in exchange of porn videos. [PS. That guy rocks, though. ;o] So yeah, kin'd better rape that 777 dude. Or else, WT sucks. But to be honest, both really have a chance. But s777 for the winner doesn't sound right to me. =/

  39. neoknux_009
    Date: Mon, May 9 2011 14:52:43

    Enkronidus wrote: Let's say, his attitude is shitty enough that someone hates him so much that even post his WT11 video in a forum to let people press dislike his video in exchange of porn videos. [PS. That guy rocks, though. ;o] So yeah, kin'd better rape that 777 dude. Or else, WT sucks. But to be honest, both really have a chance. But s777 for the winner doesn't sound right to me. =/
    wtf? Youd trust an asshole who would actually go to the level of doing something like that? Your actualyl believe someone like him (whom by his actual actions seems like a person with a shitty attitdued himself) and what he says about s777? Since WHAT THE HELL HAS s777 DONE TO ANY OF YOUR GUYS. FYI, ive actualyl talked to s777 in person. He is VERY VERY kind AND VERY MODEST from what ive seen. And sure im NOT HIS BEST FRIEND BUt when has in ANY of his videos You ever seen him be stuck up! NEVER!

  40. Zombo
    Date: Mon, May 9 2011 15:17:11

    well s777 did get into a conflict with FPSB before... thats why he was thinking of participating to WT as independent representative.

  41. Enkronidus
    Date: Mon, May 9 2011 15:46:49

    neoknux_009 wrote: wtf? Youd trust an asshole who would actually go to the level of doing something like that? Your actualyl believe someone like him (whom by his actual actions seems like a person with a shitty attitdued himself) and what he says about s777? Since WHAT THE HELL HAS s777 DONE TO ANY OF YOUR GUYS. FYI, ive actualyl talked to s777 in person. He is VERY VERY kind AND VERY MODEST from what ive seen. And sure im NOT HIS BEST FRIEND BUt when has in ANY of his videos You ever seen him be stuck up! NEVER!
    I wouldn't like to go any further. =/ I like his spinning as well, his linkages are insane. But his attitude is in the different zone, man. =/ It's the fact and a lot of people have faced it before. [Sorry about this post, I accidentally press Reply so it wasn't on purpose.]

  42. song
    Date: Mon, May 9 2011 15:49:16

    ponkuto is so godly in doing both hand spinning and some extraordinary creativity moves,but who cares?everyone,especially those snow's fans give all the credits to snow when actually ther are quite a lot of ppl have been trying to do the same thing(but snow did better than them).and imo his hand movements are from pyralux i guess?originality?pioneer?

  43. neoknux_009
    Date: Tue, May 10 2011 02:39:13

    @song agree.

  44. darkdazh
    Date: Thu, May 12 2011 01:28:22

    i.suk wrote: it's down to how much you value the work of those who pioneer or expand different areas of pen spinning, and how 'creativity' should be defined.
    Is he really expanding penspinning? Is he really offering all of this new creativity to penspinning? I don't think flashy transfers and hand movements in a WT combo is very effective. -__- But yea, whatever.

  45. i.suk
    Date: Thu, May 12 2011 07:54:09

    darkdazh wrote: Is he really expanding penspinning? Is he really offering all of this new creativity to penspinning? I don't think flashy transfers and hand movements in a WT combo is very effective. -__- But yea, whatever.
    well, if snow could only use one of his hands, he'd probably have been knocked out in R1 or R2, but he got to R5 by using both hands...so i say it was pretty effective xD hmm, it's not so much an explicit 'expansion' like how peem opened up power tricks of course, but it does show that 1p2h, 2p2h, 2p1h can be used together, extensively and be quite effective...while snow's style is highly artistic, it is not that 'original' as pointed out by quite a few people earlier in this thread, it does seem to be the first time when various known elements of PS (use of 2 hands, synchronised and de-synchronised spinning, 2p1h and artistic 'hand waving' xD) have been integrated together... when i think about it a bit more, snow is not so much a 'pioneer' of a new distinct style/aspect of PS, but more someone who is able to take various elements and combine them fairly well...

  46. GigaByte
    Date: Thu, May 12 2011 08:31:59

    kin

  47. darkdazh
    Date: Sun, May 15 2011 17:07:47

    i.suk;93694]well, if snow could only use one of his hands, he'd probably have been knocked out in R1 or R2, but he got to R5 by using both hands...so i say it was pretty effective xD[/QUOTE] BaiMai didn't make it to R5. [QUOTE=i.suk;93694]while snow's style is highly artistic, it is not that 'original' as pointed out by quite a few people earlier in this thread, it does seem to be the first time when various known elements of PS (use of 2 hands, synchronised and de-synchronised spinning, 2p1h and artistic 'hand waving' xD) have been integrated together...[/QUOTE] BaiMai is original, highly artistic, and has pretty much mastered 2p2h in every aspect. [QUOTE=i.suk wrote: when i think about it a bit more, snow is not so much a 'pioneer' of a new distinct style/aspect of PS, but more someone who is able to take various elements and combine them fairly well...
    BaiMai masterfully combines various elements of 2p2h in combos. You can take this BaiMai argument however you want, but if any spinner in this tournament should be credited with such contribution to 2p2h pen spinning it should be him. Snow just doesn't seem to fit this mold. [/super late]

  48. Sc00t
    Date: Sun, May 15 2011 17:53:21

    darkdazh wrote: BaiMai didn't make it to R5.
    Snow did. 2 different spinners.

  49. V-Storm
    Date: Sat, May 21 2011 22:44:54

    Vids due today, right?

  50. Sc00t
    Date: Sat, May 21 2011 22:51:51

    V-Storm wrote: Vids due today, right?
    :walrus:

  51. askdafudgecicle
    Date: Sat, May 21 2011 23:06:01

    its here [video=youtube;vMJ01PBKiOQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMJ01PBKiOQ&feature=feedu[/video]

  52. Sc00t
    Date: Sat, May 21 2011 23:17:17

    askdafudgecicle wrote: its here [video=youtube;vMJ01PBKiOQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMJ01PBKiOQ&feature=feedu[/video]
    human anatomy just doesn't explain how this is possible...

  53. drgripable
    Date: Sat, May 21 2011 23:38:56

    yeah....um kin.......... -.-

  54. Lindor
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 00:17:50

    Does kin really have to send a combo ? Could'nt the juges just give the result now ? Would be way faster.

  55. chris
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 01:22:48

    Lindor wrote: Does kin really have to send a combo ? Could'nt the juges just give the result now ? Would be way faster.
    That would be a bit unfair, I guess.

  56. Advecticity
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 01:28:25

    Nevertheless, an epic combo worthy of a WT final round. Now let's have Kin finish this up beautifully too.

  57. sangara
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 01:35:20

    Holy shit.

  58. akitaka
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 01:37:39

    GO KIN GO KIN GO KIN!!!!!!

  59. Knightpal
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 03:34:03

    The hell man. That pen was floating ._. WHERE'S KIN?

  60. V-Storm
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 03:52:49

    8 minutes till midnight EST..Where is kin?

  61. GigaByte
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 04:12:06

    kin kin kin kin kin .. GO

  62. Sc00t
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 04:29:15

    s777 win by defaultlol

  63. GigaByte
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 04:34:28

    Stare wrote: s777 win by defaultlol
    wait kin's video 1st .who know if kin make amazing video .. nothing is impossible

  64. V-Storm
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 04:41:10

    Well, it's 12:41 AM in EST time...so..it's late..?

  65. GigaByte
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 04:54:16

    i dont know what time is now . cuz here is morning .. XD KIN WHERE ARE U !!

  66. Elune
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 04:58:48

    Where's our hero ? Well, Kin is reading these lines :) Kin please we're waiting for you :)

  67. GigaByte
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 05:03:43

    Elune wrote: Where's our hero ? Well, Kin is reading these lines :) Kin please we're waiting for you :)
    ya we waiting for you , do not lose before fight ..

  68. wings
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 05:12:24

    Argh! kin!!!

  69. Sc00t
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 05:18:33

    s777winlol @kin Last Activity 16 Minutes Ago :trollface:

  70. GigaByte
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 05:28:59

    Stare wrote: s777winlol @kin Last Activity 16 Minutes Ago :trollface:
    is that any official announcement that said S777 is winning by default ?

  71. Riley
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 05:52:36

    kin [video=youtube;lX-CyEpoCp4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX-CyEpoCp4&feature=channel_video_title[/video]

  72. Alvaris
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 05:53:34

    [video=youtube;lX-CyEpoCp4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX-CyEpoCp4&feature=channel_video_title[/video]

  73. GigaByte
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 05:55:49

    Alvaris wrote: [video=youtube;lX-CyEpoCp4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX-CyEpoCp4&feature=channel_video_title[/video]
    finally . thx for uploading @kin

  74. i.suk
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 06:23:10

    kin's vid was up like 7 hours ago, geez ppl :P just wasn't public, i think... congrats both kin and s777 for getting to WT finals, incredible :)

  75. GigaByte
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 06:42:45

    i.suk wrote: kin's vid was up like 7 hours ago, geez ppl :P just wasn't public, i think... congrats both kin and s777 for getting to WT finals, incredible :)
    surprise .. XD

  76. snow
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 08:06:08

    IMO, two videos are hard to judge...the result will be amazing again~

  77. L-in
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 08:16:40

    Personally, I really really really want to see kin win. But, I have to admit that, in this round, I actually prefer watching S777's combo, for the first time. Best luck goes to kin, though!!! :XD:

  78. crinix
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 10:53:40

    snow wrote: IMO, two videos are hard to judge...the result will be amazing again~
    I dont agree at all. It should be obvious that s777 has won. go s777 go!

  79. Elune
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 10:56:05

    ^ This .... I fell for s777's combo for the first moment :)

  80. GigaByte
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 11:07:28

    Elune wrote: ^ This .... I fell for s777's combo for the first moment :)
    i feel S777 will got easy win at 1st but after kin's combo out . i think it not easy anymore . Go kin

  81. Krypton
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 11:50:04

    And to think I'm making an s777 MX nao... Kin was very smooth and visually appealing, but Stan is far too awesome. I actually shivered while waiting for both videos to stream :D

  82. Zombo
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 13:00:57

    vids: http://www.worldpenspinning.com/?p=607 download: http://www.worldpenspinning.com/wt11/r6

  83. Light
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 13:42:20

    I'll I can say is, s777. mind = blown

  84. Kirby
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 13:49:07

    S777 won. But, I look at these and then I look back at WT 09 finals. 09 was substantially better, these are just much less impressive than the 09 finals vids.

  85. GigaByte
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 13:58:47

    what ever happen i still support KIN ..

  86. spinford
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 14:09:12

    Kin!! You will win! Fight back! I am on your side!!!

  87. OpenSpin
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 14:27:21

    Damn, this is hard to decide, but i'm still rooting for S777

  88. neoknux_009
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 14:29:29

    s777 wins ;] but kin had nice links but s777's were bettter. great job finalists!

  89. pensp
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 16:03:42

    s777. his combo is terribly insane, especially the finisher. He really did made me surprised:O kin is just back to his old school style. Not much progress.

  90. darkdazh
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 17:21:44

    Vic is the only one who could've possibly competed with s777.

  91. Kiyo
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 21:01:18

    s777. His combo is to my opinion one of the most epic that I have ever seen! Nevertheless, I am not sure whether those judges fail again o.0

  92. AKS
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 21:23:17

    I confused who will be the winner? But yeah, go go go for them all!

  93. Mage In Black
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 21:36:03

    Yeah, definitely seemed like kin was running out of material. It shows. Glad to see s777 went all out for his final round. It shows.

  94. k-ryder
    Date: Mon, May 23 2011 00:08:21

    This is the first time this tornament that s777 has impressed me. In previous rounds i think he focused too much on difficulty of linkages, and the combo was not as visually appealing. This round, he upped the difficulty, but he also brought that style he had before the WT that made me support him in the first place. Kin on the other hand, a lot of the combo was twisted sonic variations. Could throw in a complaint about how we've seen the triangle pass every round and stopped being original. The transition from the tp to the bust was nice though, as were some other elements in there, but not enough to blow me away, especially at WT level, and the final as well in my eyes, i think s777 has this

  95. Knightpal
    Date: Mon, May 23 2011 06:24:19

    Kin's combo was awesome but.. S777's pen looked like it was defying gravity. Jeez.

  96. wyz9
    Date: Mon, May 23 2011 10:17:46

    i think kin will win a bit

  97. supawit127
    Date: Mon, May 23 2011 10:47:20

    good luck both <3

  98. bonkey12
    Date: Mon, May 23 2011 11:19:18

    i hope kin wins.. but.. look at s777's video.. and you can see that he spins slow, then fast, then slow again.. and thats like.. not smooth.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mCcDs6tukA&feature=related and im quoting from @Megas " * look at how even the rotation speed is, never speeds up never slows down, steady rotation is the mark of perfect smoothness. Medsas 1 year ago 17 "

  99. neoknux_009
    Date: Mon, May 23 2011 11:40:55

    bonkey12 wrote: i hope kin wins.. but.. look at s777's video.. and you can see that he spins slow, then fast, then slow again.. and thats like.. not smooth.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mCcDs6tukA&feature=related and im quoting from @Megas " * look at how even the rotation speed is, never speeds up never slows down, steady rotation is the mark of perfect smoothness. Medsas 1 year ago 17 "
    lol whoops presssed the like button xD was meant to press the quote. anywho. Smoothness is not only definted by change of tempo speeed. You can be smooth and have a continous change in tempo speed. This kinda of control also shows smoothness. Smoothness is more about how the pen flows between speeds. An undeliberate (whcih is usually obvious) awkward change in speed is bad smoothness, a gradual or deliberate change in speed is also considered smoothness.

  100. Zombo
    Date: Mon, May 23 2011 13:08:01

    bonkey12 wrote: i hope kin wins.. but.. look at s777's video.. and you can see that he spins slow, then fast, then slow again.. and thats like.. not smooth.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mCcDs6tukA&feature=related and im quoting from @Megas " * look at how even the rotation speed is, never speeds up never slows down, steady rotation is the mark of perfect smoothness. Medsas 1 year ago 17 "
    rofl Medsas is my old youtube account, that's not Megas and what I meant to say is that "within a rotation", the speed should be constant, its ok to change speed, as long as "within a rotation" its the same

  101. Raos
    Date: Mon, May 23 2011 14:05:09

    Zombo wrote: rofl Medsas is my old youtube account, that's not Megas and what I meant to say is that "within a rotation", the speed should be constant, its ok to change speed, as long as "within a rotation" its the same
    what zombo said. During a roation when you speed up and slow down it will make the spinning awkward too look at because your suddenly speeding up and suddenly slowing down and it can make the spinning unappealing. IMO s777 will win because his combo to me looks harder and changing the speed also adds an effect of making it look harder as well. Kin, however changes speed also because of the triangle pass. I have never seen a video of a spinner who does a triangle pass that does not slow down to it and speeds up after.

  102. Fx
    Date: Mon, May 23 2011 14:25:21

    noo..imo kin's losing D:

  103. i.suk
    Date: Mon, May 23 2011 14:43:46

    what i'm more interested in (rather than the result itself, it seems kinda clear to me who will win) is how much fame the winner will get (peem got on TV in a few countries because he won WT09), and the path PS will take in light of WT11 results (how popular will 2h/2p spinning become? will mx's make an epic comeback? what will happen to power tricks? will beginners start wanting to use mx, DC comssa, rushons and S777 mx's? will they learn triangle pass and flush sonic before proper linkages? etc) at any rate, s777 has inspired me to learn that funny anti-grav indexaround thing he did for finisher in R6, it looks cool, but as a finisher the final catch was kinda shifty (well, i guess he had this issue with his R5 and R4 vid finishers to an extent too); but rest of combo i have no words - crazy everything, i need to look closer; but i expected something not just amazing, but revolutionary...maybe a radically different hybrid or take on PS no one has done before, or crazy asynch 2h spinning/transfers...how much further can s777's 1p1h spinning go? it also makes me ask the unavoidable question - if it had been supawit in R6 and not kin, would s777 have made a different combo? would he have used his left hand too? would he have come up with new ideas to face supawit (who could have entirely new power tricks and 1p2h just waiting to be used?) we'll never know, i guess :( i must applaud kin for his valiant effort, against an opponent like s777 it must be crazy T__T that being said, i also expected more from him - i think he can do more tricks on left hand, and i've seen him use 2p1h in one of his FS's a while ago; so i expected him to use 2p1h at least for R6 to pull out his final 'ace'...nonetheless, kin showed that using an mx in WT against heavy stick spinners is still effective if your skill is high enough xD i wonder if use of triangle passes will rise now... note: trend of 2nd place spinner in WT using 2 hands and being from a european country has been broken in 2011 (random trivia? lol) congrats kin and s777 on getting to finals, it is an achievement i can barely comprehend. regardless of the outcome, they have both earned a place in PS history :)

  104. tacohead12
    Date: Mon, May 23 2011 15:03:16

    Go s777 :D I couldn't even comprehend what he was doing. So amazing

  105. Zombo
    Date: Mon, May 23 2011 15:46:13

    s777 would have not used 2h in the final, because he lost the FPSB final by using 2p2h and french ppl dont want him to use 2h

  106. i.suk
    Date: Mon, May 23 2011 23:34:41

    Zombo wrote: s777 would have not used 2h in the final, because he lost the FPSB final by using 2p2h and french ppl dont want him to use 2h
    is that combo where he basically did 2p2h sync spinning? that isn't a very effective use of 2p2h (outside of collabs, perhaps), because his right hand skills would be limited to what his left hand was doing, i'm sure he could've planned something far more effective for a WT...i think Oo" can't be 100% sure, i have no idea what goes on in FPSB -.-

  107. Far
    Date: Tue, May 24 2011 01:08:42

    But S777's anti gravity was just magnificent IMO And the inv. pinky bust 3x (If I'm not mistaken) was totally hard I think S777 is gonna win, no offense =/

  108. V-Storm
    Date: Tue, May 24 2011 03:50:37

    s777's style can be notated as fast and slow. Saying that s777 isn't smooth is like saying cows make orange juice. In my opinion, the speed change adds a ton of suspense to the combo.

  109. eazi-penspinner
    Date: Tue, May 24 2011 10:02:40

    when i look back at the WT07 vids, i say wow spinning has improved so much since then, imagine saying the same thing 4 years later that s777's combo was simple o_O. anyways i think s777 deserves to be the champ, his spinning had new stuff each round. ps : s777's curly hair looked better lol

  110. Hippo2626
    Date: Wed, May 25 2011 13:51:15

    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?p=PL00533271E925A74A Playlist for R6. I made it just for fun and because I like things neat and complete!

  111. Huin
    Date: Thu, May 26 2011 04:28:05

    GO KIN!!!!!!