UPSB v4
General Discussion / World Tournament 2011 Spinner Selection
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Date: Mon, Jun 28 2010 05:31:11
Although WT11 will not start for another ~1/2 a year, it doesn't hurt to begin selecting the spinners representing UPSB early. With all this time, you'll get the chance to practice and prepare for next year. I will be the manager for UPSB during this WT, and so here is the general idea of how the selection will work. There will be 6 spinners that will represent UPSB; 3 have already been selected and invited... the remaining 3 spots will be open to wildcard spinners. So that means anyone who is native to UPSB can have the chance to be in the WT by obtaining one of these 3 wildcard positions. As some of you may know, WT11 will require each community to rank their spinners... so these wildcard spots will determine the spinners for the #4, #5, and #6 ranks. In order to enter yourself for one of these wildcard positions, you must submit a combo. This combo will not be revealed to the public so you may re-use it for something else; the only people viewing the combos will be moderators/administrators. If you wish to release it, of course you are welcome to, but we won't force you to. [B] Time limit: 15-25 seconds Deadline: November 14th Submit to: [email][email protected][/email][/B] The final spinner list must be submitted sometime in December or January, so the deadline will be in November -- giving the other mods and myself some time to review the clips carefully to choose the best spinners possible. And so with that said, I wish you all the best of luck!!
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Date: Fri, Jul 2 2010 04:03:42
who are the first 3? Vic penja and baaron?
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Date: Fri, Jul 2 2010 04:30:50
Yea screw eriror, we don't need Eriror [/sarcasm] :faceplam: unlesss... He's not spinning anymore? My predictions: Eriror Vic Baaron Penja Teotoko (?) Charlie
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Date: Fri, Jul 2 2010 04:58:36
woops I just forgot about UPSB's best spinner (IMO), I feel ashamed. Then I say vic eriror and penja or baaron in top 3. then penja or baaron (whoever isn't in top 3), teotoko, and iColor (yes, iColor:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfB-GMMfdJA ) in the wild card spots.
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Date: Fri, Jul 2 2010 19:44:05
Eriror said he is going to participate in the WT'11, as of now. Are multiple entries possible? I mean, can I send a vid, and if I manage to get a better one send it to replace the old one?
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Date: Sun, Jul 4 2010 04:01:59
imma try
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Date: Mon, Jul 5 2010 00:16:10
Resonance wrote: Eriror said he is going to participate in the WT'11, as of now. Are multiple entries possible? I mean, can I send a vid, and if I manage to get a better one send it to replace the old one?
Yeah, sure, you may send as many clips as you want up until the due date. And the 3 invites are vic, pen ninja, and eriror (no point in hiding it since most people probably can guess this) i do not have everyone's confirmation that they will be participating though -
Date: Mon, Jul 5 2010 12:21:28
those combos from iColor are pretty and all, charges full and complete and all that... but the difficulty isnt nearly enough for WT, no offence iColor
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Date: Thu, Jul 8 2010 22:42:45
Kirby wrote: then penja or baaron (whoever isn't in top 3), teotoko, and iColor (yes, iColor:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfB-GMMfdJA ) in the wild card spots.
No offense but there are some much better spinners here than iColor. -
Date: Thu, Jul 8 2010 22:49:00
What the heck? No way I'm being in WT. I'm not at that kind of level.
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Date: Fri, Jul 9 2010 02:00:58
icolor in the WT:biglaugh:
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Date: Fri, Jul 9 2010 02:31:56
sooo???? whatt?????? ^_^
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Date: Fri, Jul 9 2010 07:47:21
I would say a great team would be: EK Vic Penja Baaron Charlie JE (If he changes his angle) In the world of world class spinners it would really be difficult to beat them with all the other stuff like power tricking and smoothness and whatever 'cause UPSB doesn't have spinners who can power trick like peem or ultimate combos like s777 (no offence to anyone). I would say the best way for a UPSB spinner to win the WT is through creativity. Charlie, Baaron and JE are real creative spinners and Vic and Penja are strong spinners with a good grasp of power tricks with a lot of creative linkages as well. Don't need to say why EK is in.
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Date: Thu, Jul 15 2010 02:59:25
If I may ask, how are intra-community rankings going to decide pooling, especially if each community sends a different amount of people?
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Date: Thu, Jul 15 2010 03:02:15
hoiboy wrote: If I may ask, how are intra-community rankings going to decide pooling, especially if each community sends a different amount of people?
It'll be divided as evenly as possible. It wont' be perfect cause each community is sending a different amount of spinners like you said, but it'll be made to be as even as possible -
Date: Thu, Jul 15 2010 03:11:11
What happened to Chau?
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Date: Thu, Jul 15 2010 03:49:50
That Guy wrote: What happened to Chau?
He doesn't want to participate in WT11, and he said that if he does decide to be in it, he wants to represent VNPSB -
Date: Thu, Jul 15 2010 04:32:55
Hippo2626 wrote: In the world of world class spinners it would really be difficult to beat them with all the other stuff like power tricking and smoothness and whatever 'cause UPSB doesn't have spinners who can power trick like peem or ultimate combos like s777
i wouldnt say that. i think ek is at high level who can compete with/beat anyone. Vic can probably beat peem if he keeps doing his crazy linkages + peems power tricks. Id probably place in delta, though im not sure whats his activity atm. -
Date: Thu, Jul 15 2010 10:06:35
Just one comment mentioned about Chau :-? ... Why dont u guys support Chau , that he may try to participate in WT11 :-?
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Date: Thu, Jul 15 2010 10:06:48
What's this about Eriror perhaps not being in WT? WHAT IS THIS MADNESS!
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Date: Thu, Jul 15 2010 11:32:38
JC wrote: He doesn't want to participate in WT11, and he said that if he does decide to be in it, he wants to represent VNPSB
@namdang...read JC's post. i think some/most of UPSB wants chautran to compete, but he doesn't want to. ultimately it's his choice and we should respect him and not bother him too much about it... -
Date: Thu, Jul 15 2010 15:20:38
i.suk wrote: @namdang...read JC's post. i think some/most of UPSB wants chautran to compete, but he doesn't want to. ultimately it's his choice and we should respect him and not bother him too much about it...
Then read my post againJust [B][COLOR="#ff0000"]one comment[/COLOR][/B] mentioned about Chau
I have read JC's post, I mean that Chau doesnt want to participate in WT11 for some reason although we dont know that, and supporting does not mean forcing... ^^ -
Date: Thu, Jul 15 2010 15:31:38
if Chau plays for VNPSB, then VNPSB should arrange with him
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Date: Thu, Jul 15 2010 18:14:46
I think ill try making a vid for it but im not going to get in but y not? if i do get in by some divine force because it would be my first vid i don't think i would do good because i started penspinning when i was ten in september 2009, now im 11 so i don't know very much
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Date: Thu, Jul 15 2010 19:18:55
What's the format of this tournament?
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Date: Thu, Jul 15 2010 20:11:27
videos? idk
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Date: Thu, Jul 15 2010 21:38:06
uh... obviously you have to submit videos I mean how is the tournament organized? Single elim, Double elim, Pooling, etc.
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Date: Thu, Jul 15 2010 21:49:17
information about WT11 is posted here: http://forum.upsb.info/showthread.php?t=632
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Date: Thu, Jul 15 2010 22:07:43
NamDang wrote: Just one comment mentioned about Chau :-? ... Why dont u guys support Chau , that he may try to participate in WT11 :-?
I wanted him to be in WT11 and I wanted him to represent UPSB, so I PM'd him to ask him about it... I was going to invite him, but he didn't want to. And if he may try to participate, he wants to represent VNPSB -- inwhich case, that's VNPSB's manger's job to place him into their team. --That's just everything he told me :dunno: he knows we support him and want him to represent UPSB, but he's already said no :\ -
Date: Thu, Jul 15 2010 23:07:43
in the end, the WT is an individual competition, so each spinner is playing for himself. it doesn't matter if Chau is playing for VNPSB or UPSB, first and foremost he should be playing for himself.
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Date: Fri, Jul 16 2010 04:17:40
Hippo2626 wrote: JE (If he changes his angle)
Uhmmmm...What? His angle is fine...>>; -
Date: Fri, Jul 16 2010 15:58:54
^lmfao mm for the wildcard i think baaron jamie and teoh are all pretty close.
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Date: Tue, Jul 20 2010 06:11:47
You're really good too ^^^ You should sumbit a video and see if you make it ;)
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Date: Thu, Jul 22 2010 23:25:28
My team: 1. Eriror 2. vic 3. penja 4. baaron 5. shadowserpant 6. awesome
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Date: Sat, Jul 24 2010 08:58:20
i hate to be an asshole but shadowserpent's combos are too easy y does no1 love awonw and resonance?
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Date: Sat, Jul 24 2010 09:18:42
Pen Ninja wrote: i hate to be an asshole but shadowserpent's combos are too easy y does no1 love awonw and resonance?
lol,agreed with u.he has a nice style,but it doesnt mean that hes good enough for wt. -
Date: Sat, Jul 24 2010 23:58:12
Pen Ninja wrote: i hate to be an asshole but shadowserpent's combos are too easy y does no1 love awonw and resonance?
Just like you, I hate to be an asshole but I don't feel they're top 5 or 6 in UPSB. I say EK, Vic, Penja, Teo, Baaron, simplex, and jamie are better. -
Date: Sun, Jul 25 2010 01:44:34
Wouldn't Mystic be somewhere in that top mix? thought he was around a Penja level of skill or something....
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Date: Sun, Jul 25 2010 03:01:32
Iota wrote: Wouldn't Mystic be somewhere in that top mix? thought he was around a Penja level of skill or something....
Yeah, i'd put mystic in over teo in kirby's roster -
Date: Mon, Jul 26 2010 14:14:59
mystic is very good, teo is slightly new to this but i think he has the capability, it'd be good to let him have a chance but well its up to you guys to decide.
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Date: Tue, Aug 10 2010 00:35:20
REVISED LIST 1.EK 2.vic 3 penja 4.teotoko 5.jamie enns 6.simplex
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Date: Tue, Aug 10 2010 02:37:39
switch mystic for jamie
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Date: Tue, Aug 10 2010 03:21:37
My new list: Vic Penja Baaron JE LITS (No idea where he is though...) Simplex (If EK is not participating for NLPSC than replce with EK) in no specific order
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Date: Tue, Aug 10 2010 10:31:01
I'm in for UPSB, always said that.
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Date: Thu, Aug 12 2010 23:46:13
id say Shadowserpent shuold still be in. Skill isnt everything in pen spinning. sometimes a combo is just more appealing and at the end of the day spinners are presenting what theyve got. from my persepctive, really shadowserpent is probably one of the most appealing styles in the world atm. so he deserves a spot in that regard. id like to see how he evolves in a major tournament, and its nice to see a mixture of spinners of different abilities.
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Date: Fri, Aug 13 2010 08:22:16
he would need some sort of difficulty and variety, so far to me, all his combos look the same and theyre all so easy difficulty isnt everything but MOAR style becomes pointless after a certain point
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Date: Fri, Aug 13 2010 10:32:33
agreed with peninja,style isnt everything especially now so many ppl fall in love with power tricks.maybe he is more stuitable for theme's tournament
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Date: Fri, Aug 13 2010 13:20:27
you have very valid points. most likely he wont get in, but i place my wildcard vote on him.
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Date: Mon, Aug 16 2010 15:31:34
so who are in for sure?
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Date: Mon, Aug 16 2010 15:38:12
1. Eriror 2. Vic 3. Simplex 4. Baaron 5. Peem 6. Jamie my team ^^
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Date: Mon, Aug 16 2010 15:41:32
everyone forgets about Mystic, that is if he is able to compete.
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Date: Mon, Aug 16 2010 16:07:12
lol...peem is in thpsc, but i guess you meant just who you are cheering for. Yeah people from the upsb tourne should be considered, but also others.
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Date: Mon, Aug 16 2010 16:33:23
Oh yay! World Tournament is coming! Doubt ill be in it though. Ive been out of the loop of things for a while and i never was very good to begin with.
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Date: Mon, Aug 16 2010 19:45:13
Mystic wrote: Oh yay! World Tournament is coming! Doubt ill be in it though. Ive been out of the loop of things for a while and [B]i never was very good to begin with.[/B]
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Date: Mon, Aug 16 2010 22:47:45
My roster would be: 1. EK 2. Vic 3. Mystic 4. teo 5. penja (not a fan of his spinning) 6. i dunno Also i doubt Baaron would want to be in the WT. I remember him saying that he didn't really want to do WT. I dunno. I could be wrong
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Date: Tue, Aug 17 2010 10:40:31
seriously,i dun think teo and simplex are not good enough for such high level tournament
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Date: Tue, Aug 17 2010 11:28:04
Double negative? Although I somewhat agree but, who's better?
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Date: Tue, Aug 17 2010 22:53:19
i would say simplex > teo for WT if i had to choose between them... simplex has higher difficulty than teo and is equally smooth style is usually never a criteria while judging, so having a nice style but nothing else is not very.. helpful in the WT
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Date: Tue, Aug 17 2010 23:07:55
JC wrote: i would say simplex > teo for WT if i had to choose between them... [B]simplex has higher difficulty than teo[/B] and is equally smooth style is usually never a criteria while judging, so having a nice style but nothing else is not very.. helpful in the WT
Sry but i strongly disagree with that. =/ -
Date: Tue, Aug 17 2010 23:48:57
Vic wrote: Sry but i strongly disagree with that. =/
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Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 00:13:04
Well if it's not too late, here is my list 1. Erirornal Kraione 2. Vicgotgame 3 Mystic 4. Pen Ninja 5. Jamie Enns(i would choose Baaron, but i think he said he didn't wish to compete) 6. Teotoko
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Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 01:05:51
The first 4 are pretty clear. But the question is the 5 and 6 spots.
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Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 01:10:53
Kirby wrote: The [B]first 5[/B] are pretty clear. But the question is the 5 and 6 spots.
What? Also, I would take teo over simplex because of teo's linkages and because I think his spinning is a bit less sloppy. -
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 01:15:42
Typo I meant 4.
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Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 02:10:38
idk, ive seen some beast combos out of teo, like the one from the o13/nh tag i think teo deserves a spot
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Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 02:27:11
wow mystic is finally back! mystic is actually one of my fav upsb spinners. he has great variety and control, and so his combo's are naturally compeition standard. id say ek, vic, mystic, and penja. The other 2 really are open ended to anyone. id be great to see teotoko push himself. but im a shadowserpent fan so im rooting for him.
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Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 03:26:45
im 100% confident mystic can compete, espeically if i can... last combo i saw from him (that i remember) was vs me, and we were essentially equal, so if i make it, he should still shadowserpant: no his spinning sure is pretty but when ur hardest trick in a combo is "counter twisted sonic", thats just not WT level
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Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 05:06:07
heres my list 1. Erirornal Kraione 2. Vicgotgame 3 Mystic 4. Pen Ninja 5. Jamie Enns 6. LITS teo is good,but i still dun think that teo's best combo is as good as those wt participants.style isnt everthing,style is usually never a criteria while judging,especially in such high level tournament.btw,there are so many spinners with nice style nowadays,and for those who can represnt their board in wt,im pretty sure that they have nice style too. sorry for my bad english.
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Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 06:18:51
Vic wrote: Sry but i strongly disagree with that. =/
Hm... I haven't seen any of teo's more recent videos and I thought he took a break or something, but I guess if many people say teo's linkages have a lotta difficulty.. then I guess I'm wrong. Then again, I haven't watched too many of simplex's most recent vids either... just based that off of what I remembered from them a few months ago. (can't remember everyone's spinning specifically :\) but i still agree with song, i don't think teo (or simplex for that matter) are ready for WT-- if he does make in, unfortunately, imo he'd be in the lower tier... (but that aside, i'm a big fan of teo's spinning.. i don't wanna make it sound like i don't like his spinning, i love his spinning ^^; ) -
Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 07:19:52
I definitely want at least these three spinners in WT: 1) Penja 2) Baaron 3) Vicgotgame I'd like to think that skill difficulty isn't everything in competition. Although simple appeal may not be enough to carry someone like Shadowserpant, his creativity will. And I'm not a fan of continuous tricks in combos in the first place, which I'm sure I'll be seeing all too much of already. :/
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Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 10:45:58
ya,im not a fan of continuos or power tricks too(actually i really hate power tricks),but the fact is,they are the more important kriteria if compared with style or creativity.i dun think ponkutu can go far in wt with his creativity only.
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Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 20:28:44
seems like teotoko is really fast learner so it might be too soon to fix the last few spots since their skills may increase a lot by the end of the year.
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Date: Wed, Aug 18 2010 20:30:43
song wrote: ya,im not a fan of continuos or power tricks too(actually i really hate power tricks),but the fact is,they are the more important kriteria if compared with style or creativity.i dun think ponkutu can go far in wt with his creativity only.
He won almost every one of his WC battles, I think he can do fairly well. -
Date: Thu, Aug 19 2010 04:57:30
pls,he represented jeb for what themes in wc?
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Date: Thu, Aug 19 2010 05:10:17
song wrote: pls,he represented jeb for what themes in wc?
aerial, body and environment, two hands, creativity... i think those...maybe others, but we shouldn't be getting off topic. I definitely agree with Zombo. WT10 is still several months away. I think spots are still hard to decide, so that gives time people to practice or do nothing. I think it should get clearer as time goes by. -
Date: Thu, Aug 19 2010 08:53:48
I got to disagree with you're argument. Ponkotu cloaks his combo with creativity which overshadows the difficulty aspect of his combos as he did in WC. Creativity will be a great part of winning a battle in the WT. Those that are participating in the WC would already have a high standard of spinning technical wise. Since they all have a high level of the technical skill, the artistic side would normally determine who would win. Ponkotu is actually a very strong technical spinner, if you've seen somee of his videos like the vicgotgame mod test, he has a high proficiency level in power tricking as well. The problem with Ponkotu is that he dwells in the artistic side far too much!. too a point that he disregards a lot of the technical stuff. If he were to change his structure of his combos just a bit he could very well win the WT
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Date: Thu, Aug 19 2010 20:57:57
im gonna try and fail... =| i believe in myself though....
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Date: Thu, Aug 19 2010 21:14:48
You just said your going to fail, then you say you have confidence in yourself? Contradiction.
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Date: Sat, Aug 21 2010 01:52:32
yeah im going to try too !! :D
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Date: Sat, Aug 21 2010 03:45:56
IMO This should be the top 6: Vicgotgame Eriror Pen Ninja Teotoko Mystic Jamie / Baaron
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Date: Mon, Sep 13 2010 19:55:37
Just a quick reminder, vids are due in ~2 months. I would start thinking about them and see where you can improve at this point to get ready for WT11
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Date: Tue, Sep 14 2010 00:39:29
JC wrote: Just a quick reminder, vids are due in ~2 months. I would start thinking about them and see where you can improve at this point to get ready for WT11
lol i opened up like 7 threads in tabs and read that there was a combo due soon and i scared myself a little -
Date: Tue, Sep 28 2010 06:04:28
why do i always come back to random hate towards me in threads like these -_- thanks for the support neo and archer, ill submit and i am working on my difficulty too. i dont really think i warrant all the mean comments honestly. i never said i had high difficulty.
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Date: Tue, Sep 28 2010 22:46:47
i really hope that Mystic will take part for upsb. i like kt master's.
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Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 06:49:03
Shadowserpant wrote: why do i always come back to random hate towards me in threads like these -_- thanks for the support neo and archer, ill submit and i am working on my difficulty too. i dont really think i warrant all the mean comments honestly. i never said i had high difficulty.
sorry man, its not like im going to every thread shouting "SHADOW SUCKS!" but im not just gonna agree with things i dont agree with -
Date: Fri, Oct 8 2010 03:05:48
wow, time flew by... only 1 week left to submit .____. i don't have any videos yet.. (i think, unless you sent it really early and i forgot about it)
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Date: Fri, Oct 8 2010 03:23:16
JC wrote: wow, time flew by... only 1 week left to submit .____. i don't have any videos yet.. (i think, unless you sent it really early and i forgot about it)
Holy shit, you scared me. Don't you mean a month and a week? It says November in the original post. -
Date: Fri, Oct 8 2010 04:37:24
oh wow, you're right :X fail jc.. fail, my bad, 1 month + 1 week left!! ^^; i only looked at the date D: sorry about thatttt
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Date: Fri, Oct 8 2010 05:45:47
Bad JC. But i always really enjoyed shadowserpant's spinning, he doesnt have the highest difficulty but he has some difficulty in his combos and he pulls it off very well, and has a nice variety which is very appealing, so i would like to see him in WT11 ;D
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Date: Fri, Oct 8 2010 06:48:23
I see a clear difference between being confident with our choices and settling with others. There are very few spinners on upsb that are truly world class level, such as Vicgotgame (Winner of UPSB WT), Pen Ninja (runner up), Eriror (very experienced). These people, we would feel confident about. This is only my opinion, i would say baaron, mystic, and jamie are up there too but not quite as confident as the first 3 probably due to lack of experience. (meaning they've never been in such a big high level tournament before, not necessarily meaning lack of skill) As for just settling with a "good choice" yet probably not WT level, i would mention the rest of the people you guys have. teo, simplex, AwonW, Resonance... But who knows really, anyone can get super good quickly. The WT is a long ways away! Random comments: As for Chau...I know this is an individual based tournament but i just thought it was funny how, when he lived in Vietnam, he spun for UPSB. Now that he lives in the states, he spins for VNPSB. @shadow I dont think anyone was really trying to hate on your spinning. They were just trying to say that you might not be the best choice for this kind of tournament. Someone mentioned earlier that they think vic is able to beat peem. I agree too. Peem is an incredibly great spinner however he does lack an overall appealing style. Also lacks linkage variety and originality in "normal" spinning. Vic is not as good as peem in power, yet he is still one of the best power spinners...meaning, HE CAN DO THEM AS WELL! As far as linkages, originality, and style, there are few that can match. Hopefully those aspects will be good enough to win the WT! Or beat peem at least... Can't wait!
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Date: Fri, Oct 8 2010 09:15:29
Totally agree with everything TEK said. No offence to Peem but I think many spinners can beat him now unless he ups his spinning in all the other areas. I wasn't around during the WT'09 but I think the main reason he won was because that was when the "power trick" revolution started and Peem was the catalyst. Now I think creativity and originality is starting to interest everyone (because of the WC I suppose), plus, the awareness for a combo to encompass every aspect of PSing has grown tremendously. Peem is creative (in power tricking contexts) but his combos (minus the power tricks), well, lets just say even I can copy them. I suspect the winner of the WT next year would be someone who can produce great combos constituting all the technicalities of PSing like S777, Eriror or Vic and can bring something new to the mix of PSing like Freeman or Ponkotu for every battle would win it ('least for me anyway). I think I drifted off from what I wanted to say and missed out some other stuff but oh well... Ill add them later (if I remember). Just my personal opinion
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Date: Fri, Oct 8 2010 11:09:11
it sounds as though people don't expect peem to pull anything 'new' in next WT. (after all, he only releases videos every few months...maybe in WT11 he won't need 'filler' material and non-repetitive combos ==). i think variety, creativity will play a greater role in WT11 than in WT09 (it's about time xD), but it's possible the 'power' seen in WT09 was only the tip of the iceberg, and the 'creativity' seen in WC10 is only the beginning. high expectations? yes. some time ago i remember reading something about reaching the 'limit of one's style'. in this WT, pushing past this limit into different 'styles' may be the key (no idea what i just said lol) about UPSB spinners, it might not only be about who can 'get good very quickly', but about who has the most material hidden away for future use too, and if anyone hits a 'wall' to improvement. time is ticking away... also hopefully this time there'll be no 'OMG he went over time by 0.5 seconds' arguments.
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Date: Fri, Oct 8 2010 14:39:39
i.suk wrote: it sounds as though people don't expect peem to pull anything 'new' in next WT. (after all, he only releases videos every few months...maybe in WT11 he won't need 'filler' material and non-repetitive combos ==). i think variety, creativity will play a greater role in WT11 than in WT09 (it's about time xD), but it's possible the 'power' seen in WT09 was only the tip of the iceberg, and the 'creativity' seen in WC10 is only the beginning. high expectations? yes.
I for a fact know peem will come up with one or multiple "new" power tricks for the WT. That is inevitable, however that might not be enough to win it. Especially if he will face hard opponents most of his rounds. And peem cant always come out with full FLTA videos every time. Its not only originality and variety a single combo but originality and variety all rounds or else people will be like "yeah thats cool but he did that the last two rounds". Peem is good and i respect him a lot, but im trying to be realistic. Also, a full fl combo has already been done before so i probably wont have nearly the same reaction as the first, even if it is better. But who knows too, peem is one crazy spinner.... And yes, very very high expectations :) -
Date: Fri, Oct 8 2010 14:45:26
just to get an idea, this is how I imagine Peem's grade for a regular combo for him. Like a regular WT tournament for him where he doesn't do anything more execution: 5/5, spinnerpeem has flawless execution difficulty: 4/5, no hard linkages, if theres some really hard linkages between power tricks, which does happen quite often, its 5/5 creativity: often 0/5 no attempt of creativity. if he shows a new trick, its usually a variation of an old trick but pushed to the extreme like punkan. in that case 2/5 presentation: -1 ou -2 pour lack of variety, bad structure (often unbalanced combos), poor/boring linkages -1 ou -2. 1-3/5 total: 10-13/20 for his usual spin. so yeah you can see he has a lot to improve, but so does everybody else. the judging system allows a lot of leeway for improvement. the idea is that of the tournament is that, ideally, the winner of the tournament sohuld be the #1, best spinner in EVERY aspect. Since this is obviously unfeasible, we know that each spinner has their own strenghts and weaknesses. The goal then, is to find a spinner who is #1, best spinner in SOME aspects and at least ABOVE AVERAGE in its WEAKEST aspects. We look for someone that is so good at everything, you can't really find a good weakness to criticize them on. With peem its too easy to find his flaws, it must not be that easy to find for the world champion.
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Date: Sat, Oct 9 2010 04:31:23
Ops, Imma retard. Ignore me :facepalm:
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Date: Sun, Oct 10 2010 06:51:42
s777 FTW
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Date: Sun, Oct 10 2010 07:00:20
neoknux_009 wrote: s777 FTW
QFT execution: 5/5, s777 has flawless execution difficulty: 5/5, Hard inkages and controlled power tricks. creativity: 4/5 always new linkages but often repeats things presentation: 5/5 always nice angle combos are rarely boring linkages: 5/5 Every time -
Date: Sat, Oct 16 2010 15:01:15
i will try...
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Date: Sat, Oct 16 2010 16:41:08
Jan, you already said that two pages ago. Nobody cared the first time. I don't really think you need to tell us again.
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Date: Fri, Nov 5 2010 17:34:03
confirmed 6 spots for UPSB spinners.
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Date: Sat, Nov 6 2010 22:08:22
I suppose I should give it a try before the due date for the vids november 14th. I hope I get in.
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Date: Sun, Nov 7 2010 01:05:14
@Zombo: What's the overall distribution of spots?
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Date: Sun, Nov 7 2010 16:41:51
@hoiboy: :search: http://forum.upsb.info/showthread.php?t=632&p=32963&viewfull=1#post32963
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Date: Mon, Nov 8 2010 22:06:37
Just a reminder, videos to try out for the wildcard spots are due on the 14th! That's in ~1 week!! I still haven't gotten any videos from anyone, so there's still 3 spots up for grabs for anyonee.
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Date: Mon, Nov 8 2010 22:16:01
Umm, so we just let any old three wankers take places in the WT? Bloody great. Looks like UPSB are going to REAL good again.
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Date: Mon, Nov 8 2010 22:21:38
Well, I would hope that good spinners would take up this opportunity and submit a video and get into the team, but in the end, it's really the spinner's choice no matter how good they are. If it ends up being 3 spinners who really aren't ready... yes, it'll be sad =(
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Date: Mon, Nov 8 2010 23:18:28
From the first post: 'December or January, so the deadline will be in November -- giving the other mods and myself some time to review the clips carefully to choose the best spinners possible.' If you have fuck all clips, you can extend the deadline a week!
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Date: Mon, Nov 8 2010 23:38:33
lol. im sure most of the people are just being the normal procrastinator. dw
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Date: Mon, Nov 8 2010 23:50:34
neoknux_009 wrote: lol. im sure most of the people are just being the normal procrastinator. dw
Don't worry? The fuck? Are you drugged? We should be worried because UPSB has been fucked over everytime in WT. Only Eriror can stand proud (and UPSB organisers of WT from UPSB of course). Where is everyone else? Stop playing video games and wasting your life and go out and win a tournament! It's a great thrill, hell, even competing is fantastic. -
Date: Tue, Nov 9 2010 00:16:15
the other option is giving back spots to other communities if you dont think you have good enough spinners to fill them
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Date: Tue, Nov 9 2010 00:21:19
Zombo wrote: the other option is giving back spots to other communities if you dont think you have good enough spinners to fill them
How shameful on UPSBs spinners... <_< It seems the best plan though. -
Date: Tue, Nov 9 2010 01:27:03
JC wrote: Just a reminder, videos to try out for the wildcard spots are due on the 14th! That's in ~1 week!! I still haven't gotten any videos from anyone, so there's still 3 spots up for grabs for anyonee.
I'm still planning on sending and I'm sure tons of other people are as well.. -
Date: Tue, Nov 9 2010 05:03:11
umm... nobody put i.suk in their list? I think besides the top 4-ish that have been confirmed to rep UPSB, he's one of the strongest spinners here. Assuming he is UPSB.
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Date: Tue, Nov 9 2010 05:34:52
he is indeed UPSB... i think the main concern with isuk is his style. its getting a lot better so i dno, but aside from his power tricks, his style isnt really developed enough for tourney level. tho hes improving fast, i dno
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Date: Tue, Nov 9 2010 06:00:03
lol, you'd be very naive to think i have only worked on 'power tricks' in the past 3 or 4 months :P that being said, i still need to plan my entry combo/s ==" procrastination ftl
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Date: Tue, Nov 9 2010 06:13:29
i.suk wrote: lol, you'd be very naive to think i have only worked on 'power tricks' in the past 3 or 4 months :P
I was gonna say that. lol I'd probably have: Vic EK Penja i.suk or Baaron Jamie Enns Charlie Or something along those lines... haven't looked into it much. =P -
Date: Tue, Nov 9 2010 06:50:34
@Mats, will you be submitting a combo? have you already? will you stand proud for UPSB when you win the WT11?
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Date: Tue, Nov 9 2010 07:24:36
I'm submitting. Stop tripping balls mats
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Date: Tue, Nov 9 2010 08:02:19
im very aware isuk has been working on non-power i dno y im in WT tbh, i dont feel worthy =\
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Date: Tue, Nov 9 2010 12:42:39
@Mats wtf? are you kidding? so you think eriror has been the only good competitor and we've been screwed? Man UPSB has always had a good solid line up and have always included strong competitors. UPSB has always tried their best within the 2 tournaments. it just so happens that last year vic versed ek. charlie, chautran and other UPSB spinners also tried what they could. Stop complaning about people who havent submitted a video yet. YOU dont own them. im confident they know about the deadline and they will submit when/if they want to.
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Date: Tue, Nov 9 2010 13:54:44
lots of ppl didnt submit for the UPSB 2nd and they had a lot of time as well, WT is more important than a collab but to receive 0 entries at this stage is still worrying... imo the #1 priority is to convince baaron to join the WT because a lot of ppl including me wants to see him do well
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Date: Tue, Nov 9 2010 14:37:05
i want to see baaron rape everyone in wt :D lolol
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Date: Tue, Nov 9 2010 14:57:45
then nag him to go lol also what about teotoko or shonenbatman
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Date: Tue, Nov 9 2010 18:25:37
I'm quite busy trying to win some other tournaments at the moment (chess) actually Jamie, while trying to put together my 4 new acts for next year and working full time. So I won't be submitting, haven't already and won't stand proud for UPSB. However, my main hobby is not spinning pens! In fact, it is something I don't even do daily, sometimes weekly. But, people who do spin pens a lot, who can do well for UPSB in the tournament... They should be putting their names forward! This is an excellent opportunity for them. They should be reaching out and grabbing it with boths hands! It has been good to see that some people have started replying that they will be submitting and this is good to see. :) And it is true neoknux, Chautran did good too!
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Date: Tue, Nov 9 2010 18:30:26
speaking of chautran, vnpsb is not even registered lol, so if he wants to participate it might have to go through UPSB
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Date: Tue, Nov 9 2010 19:25:07
Are we allowed to submit a combo which is like 18secs long and then submit a 5sec FL combo on top of that?
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Date: Tue, Nov 9 2010 23:32:59
JC, would time extensions for qualification videos be possible? cuz like, wt isnt for another half year ish as you say in the first post :/ i'll try to get something in, but i may need more time to film :dunno:
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Date: Tue, Nov 9 2010 23:45:44
blahblahting wrote: wt isnt for another half year ish as you say in the first post :/
Look at the date he posted that blah ;) also I think I might give it a shot. Why not? -
Date: Wed, Nov 10 2010 00:04:38
JC wrote: Yeah, sure, you may send as many clips as you want up until the due date.
@Twine, yes :P -
Date: Wed, Nov 10 2010 00:06:04
i.suk wrote: @Twine, yes :P
Are you submitting isuk? (The correct answer for you to give is 'I'm good at spinning so yes I damn well am') -
Date: Wed, Nov 10 2010 00:10:32
blahblahting wrote: JC, would time extensions for qualification videos be possible? cuz like, wt isnt for another half year ish as you say in the first post :/ i'll try to get something in, but i may need more time to film :dunno:
more like 2 months left now. -
Date: Thu, Nov 11 2010 10:37:23
sent.
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Date: Fri, Nov 12 2010 05:13:03
sent.
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Date: Fri, Nov 12 2010 09:59:04
While the due date is still the 14th, I'd say there may be a slight chance for an extended due date. I've been without a computer for 2 weeks now and have been using my iPod for internet (mainly just email) so I haven't really been able to sort anything through for the WT in terms of spinners/judges. I still need more judges btw, and for those who have e-mailed me concerning the position so far, I will present you a few clips for you to judge so your judging ability can be gauged. But again, I will do that when I get my laptop back. Supposedly, I'm suppose to get it back Friday, but I wouldn't be surprised if it took longer than that. I also will not have internet over this next weekend because I will be on a retreat to the middle of nowhere in the woods of New Hampshire. So I'm sorry to have to push this back further (or maybe not, we'll see), but I've been extremely inconvenienced without a computer/laptop these few weeks :(
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Date: Fri, Nov 12 2010 19:05:28
Yeah. :D An extended due date would be nice. Sometime later next week and I'll be in.
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Date: Sat, Nov 13 2010 08:45:06
So who has sent so far?
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Date: Sun, Nov 14 2010 09:19:41
I'm in! My skill surpasses all!!!
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Date: Sun, Nov 14 2010 09:51:21
who r u?
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Date: Sun, Nov 14 2010 10:14:28
sent it!! just in time!
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Date: Sun, Nov 14 2010 21:47:04
I'm going to extend the deadline by a week and make them due November 21st, and so that I'll have thanksgiving to look them over. I apologize to those who rushed their clips to get them in on time, but you have a bit more time now if you'd like to refilm. I only got a few clips so far, but I'm not going to release the names.
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Date: Sun, Nov 14 2010 21:51:09
Will there be public input on spinner selection?
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Date: Sun, Nov 14 2010 21:55:20
hoiboy wrote: Will there be public input on spinner selection?
giving the other mods and myself some time to review the clips carefully to choose the best spinners possible.
That is what JC wrote on the first post. READ THE FIRST POST WITH THE INFO ON DAMNIT! -
Date: Mon, Nov 15 2010 00:27:32
JC wrote: I'm going to extend the deadline by a week and make them due November 21st
YES! thank you =D maybe if i have more time next weekend i can try to film =] -
Date: Mon, Nov 15 2010 00:28:21
I did see that part. I guess my question just got phrased wrong. I was actually wondering why the mods don't add in public input.
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Date: Mon, Nov 15 2010 00:54:34
hoiboy wrote: I did see that part. I guess my question just got phrased wrong. I was actually wondering why the mods don't add in public input.
a lot of the public either: probably don't have enough experience to judge the difficulty of linkages tricks (this is for world tournament, not some friendly battle lol), and/or they probably can't be bothered looking at the combos in depth, slow-motioning them etc. subtle difficulty is big nowadays, also remember the public's vote may not take into consideration all the WT11 criteria -
Date: Mon, Nov 15 2010 03:23:55
we already got plenty of public input in this thread @hoiboy, I don't know exactly how JC is planning on using that info though. I don't think it would be wise to set a straight method like voting, gotta keep it flexible.
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Date: Mon, Nov 15 2010 03:25:50
the public is also very vulnerable to bias... i like X so im gonna vote for them or X had an awesome combo way back and now im a big fan... ill vote for them
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Date: Mon, Nov 15 2010 16:42:08
I think the moderating team is knowledgeable and experienced enough to make the right choice on what spinners to choose with or without public input. I think we should be alright.
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Date: Tue, Nov 16 2010 00:55:56
works for me... its also when 2 week noobs look at combos and the one that looks the prettiest wins
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Date: Wed, Nov 24 2010 03:39:50
An update?
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Date: Thu, Nov 25 2010 06:03:10
Jamie Enns wrote: An update?
uhh did you even send a vid yet? -
Date: Thu, Nov 25 2010 06:53:44
uhh yea, an update?
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Date: Thu, Nov 25 2010 06:57:20
I looked through my email again, but I didn't find your clip.. And I don't think I accidentally deleted it... but I guess I might've It's all good though, I got your clip Wildcard spinners will be chosen shortly, give it a day or two max
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Date: Thu, Nov 25 2010 17:11:17
not sure if JC wants to post the list of vids received, but anybody who submitted should definitely verify that their vids are receivd.
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Date: Thu, Nov 25 2010 17:43:01
Pen Ninja wrote: works for me... its also when 2 week noobs look at combos and the one that looks the prettiest wins
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Date: Thu, Nov 25 2010 18:29:34
@Jan , posts mean nothing. Exhibit A : you. It's best if the moderating team makes the choice
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Date: Thu, Nov 25 2010 20:09:41
JC: You got my clip alright?
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Date: Thu, Nov 25 2010 22:12:52
Yep Twine, I got it
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Date: Sat, Nov 27 2010 20:25:49
Update on this?
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Date: Mon, Nov 29 2010 10:15:03
Alright, Lets do this, LEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYY NNNNNSHFGSJFWIQOQJEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNKIINNNNSSSSSSS
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Date: Mon, Nov 29 2010 10:18:16
Wheres Baaron? :ghost:
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Date: Mon, Nov 29 2010 20:07:25
we're still debating, there's some great competition for the last few spots no worry though we still got 1 month to decide
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Date: Mon, Nov 29 2010 20:36:37
Did Baaron submit? He better of or I will be dissapoint in him >______________<
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Date: Mon, Nov 29 2010 20:57:07
i dunno if we can reveal who did or did not submit, its up to JC to decide
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Date: Mon, Nov 29 2010 22:03:31
I suppose someone would get the wild card position. I dont I dont know... Would simples get the wildcard position?
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Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 17:37:54
I thought we would know who is in by now?
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Date: Sun, Dec 5 2010 21:55:31
bump for info
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Date: Sun, Dec 5 2010 22:08:34
This selection process is slower than a James Bond villain's way of killing.
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Date: Mon, Dec 6 2010 02:28:07
the process has sort of moved on to an "interview" phase with potential candidates, we want to really determine what's their potential and make sure we make the right decision. it's really not easy.
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Date: Mon, Dec 6 2010 03:48:23
Do you have a time estimate?
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Date: Mon, Dec 6 2010 04:12:21
Ideal team imo: Vicgotgame Eriror Penja Baaron Teotoko Jamie / i.suk / AwonW
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Date: Mon, Dec 6 2010 04:13:34
you forgot penja @Twine and im pretty teotoko is inactive now but no worry we got good candidates
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Date: Mon, Dec 6 2010 04:16:42
lol woops, Penja is meant to be above the trio >.< That's really disappointing about teotoko. He truly was a prodigy (well at lease for UPSB). Like he had that naturally awesome style, good links. Aww man he was one of my favorite spinners!
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Date: Mon, Dec 6 2010 08:03:12
I'm sorry guys for the delay, but as Zombo's said, we have made it more of an interview I suppose. While we know some spinners have the potential ability, the videos they sent us didn't show us what we would like have seen from them...things that we know they could possibly do -- and so because of that, we have asked a few people to send us additional videos to redisplay their strengths and see if they are a more suitable candidate after that. (We are still waiting on these videos before we decide) With that said though... we have come to a conclusion on some of the wildcard spinners. Here is the lineup so far. Vicgotgame Pen Ninja Erirornal Kraione Baaron Jamie Enns So we are just debating over who should take the last spot (Jamie will be on the team though with either the 5th or 6th spot.)
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Date: Mon, Dec 6 2010 08:22:47
Teo isn't on there? D:
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Date: Mon, Dec 6 2010 08:54:01
Anyone thought of KTrinh93? He's pretty pro!
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Date: Mon, Dec 6 2010 10:29:36
J A Z Z wrote: Anyone thought of KTrinh93? He's pretty pro!
:facepalm :facepalm :stupid: :stupid: His combos are spammy. He is just doing some cont tricks and power tricks; no difficult linkages, creativity... -
Date: Mon, Dec 6 2010 20:55:29
JC;40308]I'm sorry guys for the delay, but as Zombo's said, we have made it more of an interview I suppose. While we know some spinners have the potential ability, the videos they sent us didn't show us what we would like have seen from them...things that we know they could possibly do -- and so because of that, we have asked a few people to send us additional videos to redisplay their strengths and see if they are a more suitable candidate after that. (We are still waiting on these videos before we decide) With that said though... we have come to a conclusion on some of the wildcard spinners. Here is the lineup so far. 1. Vicgotgame 2. Pen Ninja 3. Erirornal Kraione 4. Baaron 5/6. Jamie Enns (spot undecided) So we are just debating over who should take the last spot (Jamie will be on the team though with either the 5th or 6th spot.)[/QUOTE] YUUUSSS MOTHER FUCKING BAARON <3 :D :wub: Olawd I see UPSB getting far this year :) [QUOTE=Mage In Black wrote: Teo isn't on there? D:
Teo =/= active :(. Man he was a beast... -
Date: Mon, Dec 6 2010 21:03:17
WOW Upsb is looking good so far, Vic, Eriror Penja ;)
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Date: Mon, Dec 6 2010 21:43:47
Edit on the team lineup, current order is not set.
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Date: Mon, Dec 6 2010 23:05:15
would simplex be in?
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Date: Mon, Dec 6 2010 23:07:57
simplex never submitted a video, and I believe he is pretty inactive right now? Same goes for the comments about teo
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Date: Mon, Dec 6 2010 23:52:56
Bah. That blows. Teos' one of my fav pen spinners. He put on quite a show in the UPSB tourny. Imo, he was just on the edge to taking out Eri and Vic.
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Date: Tue, Dec 7 2010 00:08:01
Uh oh.
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Date: Tue, Dec 7 2010 00:27:44
@Mage In Black you should be in. "MIB's one of my fav pen spinners. He put on quite a show in the UPSB tourny. Imo, he CAN take out Eri and Vic."
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Date: Tue, Dec 7 2010 00:37:00
lol. I wasn't even in the tourny. But thanks. I'll try to be more active filming wise even if I don't get in. :]
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Date: Tue, Dec 7 2010 02:12:03
MIB>Jamie and Mystic>Jamie Both are better. in my opnion.
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Date: Tue, Dec 7 2010 02:22:00
mystic is not active.
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Date: Tue, Dec 7 2010 02:30:58
why are a lot of our best spinners inactive .___.
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Date: Tue, Dec 7 2010 02:42:42
Because this board kinda turned to shit.
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Date: Tue, Dec 7 2010 03:06:10
well they might hav ebeen the best spinners 6-7 months ago, that does not mean they're still the best now. it changes fast. we need recent vids to evaluate
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Date: Tue, Dec 7 2010 03:11:16
Catfish?
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Date: Tue, Dec 7 2010 04:58:42
hmmm dont think we have seen his vid, but we have plenty of very good candidates for that last spot, which makes it very very hard to decide, thats why we're kinda conducting interviews theres at least 4 candidates for the last spot
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Date: Tue, Dec 7 2010 06:25:08
haha kirby didnt know you still liked my spinning i didn't submit a video cuz i thought i had no chance sooo ya lol
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Date: Tue, Dec 7 2010 08:53:27
Zombo wrote: thats why we're kinda conducting interviews theres at least 4 candidates for the last spot
interviews? :o 4 candidates for last spot, oh wow. dammit i should be practicing atm them =__=" -
Date: Tue, Dec 7 2010 22:10:35
please do. you>all other contenders.
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Date: Thu, Dec 23 2010 04:19:55
err.. Any update on this? Sorry >
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Date: Thu, Dec 23 2010 14:50:49
it'll probably be resolved within one week. we're working on making the final decision
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Date: Fri, Dec 24 2010 05:36:02
Okay, here is the final lineup for UPSB's WT11 team. (Rank is yet to be decided) [Vic, Pen Ninja, Erirornal Kraione, Baaron, Jamie Enns, AwonW] Congratulations to all participants and I wish you all the best of luck next year! I'll be PM'ing you all with updates later.
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Date: Fri, Dec 24 2010 05:42:31
oshi- Epic line up ^^
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Date: Fri, Dec 24 2010 05:43:00
we might have a chance :D
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Date: Fri, Dec 24 2010 05:44:29
Whooooo :D Go Aaron!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Fri, Dec 24 2010 05:52:34
AWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWONAWON WOOOOOOOOOOOOO Congrats to everyone else too :P
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Date: Fri, Dec 24 2010 05:57:02
AWONWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW omgomgomg gl to all of you ^^ (psst aaron you should use that devils shadow ~ sidespin 0.5 ~ FL RA 0.5 :3)
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Date: Fri, Dec 24 2010 07:14:33
Nice. go awon. HoTpsb team for the win. :D
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Date: Fri, Dec 24 2010 07:29:41
Congrats AwonW! We got a strong team!! UPSB all the way!!
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Date: Fri, Dec 24 2010 07:41:55
wow its the dream team!!!!! go upsb and good luck my good sirs :D
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Date: Fri, Dec 24 2010 08:33:23
YEA SON!!! UPSB I GONNA BE SWEEPING THIS TOURNEY ;D Epic to see awonw in :D. Rooting for Vic to win the whole thing :p
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Date: Fri, Dec 24 2010 10:59:37
i feel so sorry for the people who are going into the WT........
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Date: Fri, Dec 24 2010 11:12:31
yay aaron + baaron
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Date: Fri, Dec 24 2010 11:19:41
OK Thankss _____________ Play gclub must give a detailed study and familiarize gclub clearly
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Date: Sat, Dec 25 2010 04:25:04
Vic, please pound Peem's face in. Lol jk good luck to you all! Show no mercy >:D
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Date: Sun, Dec 26 2010 13:15:31
i encourage anybody who got turned down, like charlie, shonenbatman, i.suk, to submit for WT wildcard. there's a good chance to get in from there
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Date: Sun, Dec 26 2010 13:22:01
PLEASE DO D: @i.suk