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Off-topic / I need help building a gaming rig...

  1. Storm
    Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 01:57:26

    Finalizations, this is sorta likely the build I'm going to get: Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131665 CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115211 CPU Heatsink/Fan Sub: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103057 RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145250 Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102888 Sound Card: None (as it is already integrated into the mobo...) Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 DVD Burner: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6078414&sku=A455-5022 Case: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4631382&sku=C283-1223 PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006 Wireless Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124115 OS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754 (extra) Thermal Paste: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007 Monitor: Alienware OptX AW2210 21.5” Full HD Widescreen Monitor Keyboard: Alienware TactX Mouse: Razer Lachesis (+ the included "L33T Pack" which is 1$, woohoo~?) Speakers: Logitech Z520 Speaker System Surge Protector: Monster Cable MDP 500 Digital PowerCenter Surge Protector Budget: 2000$ Price: 1986.78$ (not including shipping...) I was over the budget, but a tech buddy of mine helped me swap out some parts. A less expensive CPU cooler that works beyond sufficiently, a smaller more stable hard drive, switching items between the sites for cheaper prices, and the suggestion that I should pirate Windows 7. If I did pirate it I would get another 99.99$ to fool around with, with which I'd probably buy more memory or some headphones (because I really do need some headphones... =_=;;)... We'll see. But yes, I am now under budget, everything seems to be fine, the specs are far beyond my scope of what I could get (thank God for techie friends and family...) and with this I should be able to go ahead and sign the deal off. I'll wait for some holiday savings though since that should drastically decrease the price. But then I risk things being sold-out/out-of-stock/holiday rush defects in the hardware, etc. Oh well~

  2. KTrinh93
    Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 02:36:31

    What happened to "I'm saving money for a car"?

  3. Storm
    Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 02:48:52

    When did I EVER say that Trinh? O_o I don't even need a car, plus I won't even use one until my upperclassmen years of College since I want to avoid parking costs, gas costs, trouble carpooling others, etc. You must've heard about someone else~

  4. KTrinh93
    Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 02:56:53

    Haha no no no it was you. You told me around this time last year when we did our tag that you weren't gonna buy any more pens because you were saving up for a car which is why I insisted that I paid you back for something but I forget what that thing was. Don't doubt this Asian's memory :XD:

  5. XYZaki
    Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 04:36:43

    http://forum.upsb.info/showthread.php?t=165

  6. Twine
    Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 05:56:24

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=336079391 See this, shit brix.

  7. VendettaBF
    Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 06:05:11

    if u have a previous tower, strip some of the parts from there so u can buy and i7 cpu. http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html looks like the gtx performs better and it's on newegg for hella cheap http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102883 cheaper.

  8. Storm
    Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 11:37:35

    Yes, but the card I'm using is 2GB, not 1. In fact I showed that very card to my cousin (he's really good with computers, heck he was INVITED to go to work for Blizzard...) and he said to pay the extra $$ for the card I chose above. ;P Thanks though~

  9. iMatt
    Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 16:12:54

    1.) Why are you running on the 1156 Socket? It's already outdated and let alone running an i5 on it. Future compatibility, get a 1366 i7 board if you're going that route. Get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131665 2.) A 3.6ghz i5. THAT'S FUCKING POINTLESS. You're paying over $300.00 for a slower processor than an i7 for heavens sake. Higher GHZ =/= faster. - Get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115211 3.) New memory, i7 runs better on triple-channel. You'll get better performance out of 6GB in Tri-channel than you would with 8GB in dual channel. (Not to mention CAS 9 Latency is garbage) This has CAS 7 below - Get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145250 4.) Video card is fine. 5.) Sound card isn't needed. Onboard sounds plenty damn good. If you want AMAZING audio you're gonna have to throw down a lot more $$$ on a higher end sound+processing unit+speakers than actually utilize it+high end headphones to use it as well (if that's what you want) - Skip it honestly. Expect to pay around $300 totally for quality stuff for good audio 6.) I would get a bigger HDD, but again that's just me. TB's are down to like 70-80$ now. Otherwise it's fine 7.) DVD-Drive is fine 8.) Case is fine 9.) PSU is Fine 10.) Wireless is fine. Stuff maybe a bit higher priced, but it'll go a long way towards future compatibility.

  10. JLSpinY
    Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 18:37:34

    For a gaming build you don't really need to spend that much. I would say $1000 bucks would be enough. Will the build be primarily for gaming, or will you be using it for photoshop and work as well? If that is the case, getting a dual/ triple monitor settup would be a good idea (plus it will make gaming awesome :P)

  11. iMatt
    Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 19:14:22

    $1000 = barely enough for gaming honestly. Seriously, if you're going big, GO BIG. get good components that won't shit out.

  12. Lapig
    Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 21:04:47

    iMatt wrote: $1000 = barely enough for gaming honestly. Seriously, if you're going big, GO BIG. get good components that won't shit out.
    $1000 is plenty, my pc cost me under $800 about a year and a half ago and I have yet to have a problem running any new games up to COD Black OPs which is the last game I bought, also have never had a part "shit out" My specs are at the bottom of this page www.xfire.com/profile/lapig/ if your interested

  13. Zombo
    Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 21:34:02

    9800 GT and 19" LCD... hmm yeah...doesn't mention what your PSU is either

  14. iMatt
    Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 22:08:28

    Lapig wrote: $1000 is plenty, my pc cost me under $800 about a year and a half ago and I have yet to have a problem running any new games up to COD Black OPs which is the last game I bought, also have never had a part "shit out" My specs are at the bottom of this page www.xfire.com/profile/lapig/ if your interested
    because you'e running it on a 19" monitor which does a max of what 1280x1024 lol. You try jacking that up to 1920x1080 + 4x AA you will kill your machine LOL.

  15. Storm
    Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 22:55:21

    The reason I got the dual-core i5 is because of the hyper-threading capabilities, so even if I don't have a quad-core, it'll still act like one when need be. Albeit upon further research it is as you said, WAY overpriced... I'll go with your suggestion. I was looking at this particular i7, but again I figured I wouldn't need the quad-core due to redundancy as most games don't support quad-core. As for the RAM, I didn't know you can get a 3-pack for such a good price, haha. I only got 2 of that same item because I couldn't find a 3-pack, thank you for that. As for the mobo, everything is still compatible with it, no? Like, I won't have to worry about substituting anything else on the list? Thanks Matt, really appreciate all this. There's just SO MANY CHOICES, kind of overwhelming, hehe.

  16. Lapig
    Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 23:10:47

    iMatt wrote: because you'e running it on a 19" monitor which does a max of what 1280x1024 lol. You try jacking that up to 1920x1080 + 4x AA you will kill your machine LOL.
    It's actually 20" with 1400x900 resolution, and also 4x AA and a massive resolution aren't exactly life changing but it doesn't really matter if op has a $2k budget anyway, he might as well go for it, but I'm just saying you definitely don't NEED over $1000 just to make a decent gaming rig

  17. Storm
    Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 23:17:23

    @iMatt: Sweet titties, you saved me over 100$ on car insu- the price of my rig. I think I'll get that extra hard drive space, mmyes. Delicious~ How's this look?: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=22-152-245&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=2#scrollFullInfo I had forgotten to add the price of my OS in the previous calculation, but even so, after replacing the hard drive with the 2TB, I can still get the 99.99$ OS and end up at 2001.79$, JUST over budget, but meh, that's pocket change. This is so excellent!

  18. Mats
    Date: Tue, Nov 30 2010 23:56:12

    Here's some good gaming advice. For just a few hundred dollars, you could buy yourself some toys to play with that are interesting for everyone (rubix cube, yo-yo etc) and a whole collection of board games to play with your friends. It would be a whole lot more sociable!

  19. Colin
    Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 00:02:31

    VendettaBF wrote: if u have a previous tower, strip some of the parts from there so u can buy and i7 cpu. http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html looks like the gtx performs better and it's on newegg for hella cheap http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102883 cheaper.
    honestly, i think the i7 is overrated. the Phenom x6 BE works just as good, if not better also, why buy an OS? Just download it, save yourself some money :thumb: Plus, yesterday was cybarz monday. You couldve gotton a 700W PSU for ike 40$ w/ free shipping :o if youre still into the ix seriies.. here's some good shit on newegg right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115213 i7 processor, 275$, free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182173 Rosewill 700W PSU, 40$, free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103089&cm_re=v6_cpu_cooler-_-35-103-089-_-Product CoolerMastur v6CPU Cooler 70$+7.90 shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119196 60$ CoolerMaster Storm Scout Case 60$ free shipping IMO, I dont think the 9800GT is well enough suited for a well-built computer like yours. Also, I noticed you dont have a CPU Cooler. I learned not to use a stock CPU cooler, noisy and ineffective as fuc >_> Plus, I dont like how the inside of that case isnt black. it just doesnt flow. Ya know? My bad, I didnt see iMatt's post :p @iMatt How does using different mobo's affect your performance? I understand the number of slots in the RAM, PCI/PCI-E etcetc and sound driveres..point is, how much does it affect it?

  20. Storm
    Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 00:49:32

    @Colin: The PSU wattage or deal isn't the problem, it's the reliability since a failure in the PSU could screw your entire system. And I trust corsair so I went with this which is a little higher wattage then I needed only so I can use it in the future. As for the Case, I like how the one I picked out looks, hehe. xP Works the same if not better than the one you picked out anyways. As for the replacement CPU heatsink/fan, I haven't heard any issues with the one that comes with the i5...

  21. Colin
    Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 00:51:12

    @Storm Im just saying :dunno:

  22. Storm
    Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 01:17:55

    I know, I know. I appreciate it. ^_^

  23. iMatt
    Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 02:00:10

    Colin wrote: honestly, i think the i7 is overrated. the Phenom x6 BE works just as good, if not better also, why buy an OS? Just download it, save yourself some money :thumb: Plus, yesterday was cybarz monday. You couldve gotton a 700W PSU for ike 40$ w/ free shipping :o if youre still into the ix seriies.. here's some good shit on newegg right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115213 i7 processor, 275$, free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182173 Rosewill 700W PSU, 40$, free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103089&cm_re=v6_cpu_cooler-_-35-103-089-_-Product CoolerMastur v6CPU Cooler 70$+7.90 shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119196 60$ CoolerMaster Storm Scout Case 60$ free shipping IMO, I dont think the 9800GT is well enough suited for a well-built computer like yours. Also, I noticed you dont have a CPU Cooler. I learned not to use a stock CPU cooler, noisy and ineffective as fuc >_> Plus, I dont like how the inside of that case isnt black. it just doesnt flow. Ya know? My bad, I didnt see iMatt's post :p @iMatt How does using different mobo's affect your performance? I understand the number of slots in the RAM, PCI/PCI-E etcetc and sound driveres..point is, how much does it affect it?
    There's a metric ton of differences that I'll try not to bore you with. But i'll get the main points. 1.) i7 is running with an integrated memory controller now so you actually utilize a higher amount of RAM at once. (Hence why it's a Tri-Channel setup) 2.) Also a lot of stuff comes down to the quality of the parts and the premium for a GOOD layout (flat SATA ports, one touch BIOS reset-buttons etc.) 3.) The different types of PCI-Slots will affect video performance. Things like having TRUE x16 x 3 PCI-E 2.0 slots vs. SLI/Crossfire scaling (16x 8x 4x) 4.) Then of course all the overclocking stuff, like support for voltage tweaking/onboard diagnostics. That about sums it up. I do agree the new Phenom X6 is really good, but right now it still doesn't pair up to the i7 just yet. I'm really excited to see AMD's new fusion line coming out soon. Those things should really boost up the performance bar.

  24. Storm
    Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 04:32:51

    /bump with updated list... xP

  25. iMatt
    Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 05:34:37

    You knock down the video card a bit. A 5870 is great, but for budget sake you can get similar performance out of the GTX 460 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130566 Also runs a little bit cooler as well actually. It'll still annihilate everything you toss at it. Since you're not running a super high end multi-monitor setup/higher resolutions than 1080p you could probably do without the extra horsepower. That would take off $169.00 Newegg carries the same PSU $10.00 less + a $10 mail in rebate for it, so that's another $20 down. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006 You're not overclocking the i7 so that CPU-fan/heatsink is really quite over-kill honestly. If you go down a few lines: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103057 May not look as cool, but that'll still cool your CPU MORE than sufficiently. If you don't believe me, check reviews. That's another $35.00 off HDD-wise. Never get a 5400RPM drive on 1TB or higher. It'll kill performance. Plus if you need more space you can always buy a second HDD. But for now, Get this instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 $70.00 for a 7200RPM 1TB. That would take off $254.00 (honestly it's easier to pirate Windows 7 lol) That way you install an unlimited amount of times. That would take off $354.00 total. Hope that helps.

  26. JLSpinY
    Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 15:29:57

    @Storm What are you going to be using you computor for? Are you a hardcore gamer who games nonstop, or do you just play 1-2 hours a day?

  27. Mats
    Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 16:22:14

    JLSpinY wrote: @Storm What are you going to be using you computor for? Are you a hardcore gamer who games nonstop, or do you just play 1-2 hours a day?
    Nonstop or 1-2 hours a day. You don't give much middle ground do you!

  28. JLSpinY
    Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 22:05:47

    Yeah, I guess :p So, in simple terms: 1. How hours a day do you game? 2. What games do you play? 3. What else will you be using your rig for, and how long will you be doing them?

  29. Storm
    Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 22:42:51

    @JLSpinY: Haha, well I'm on almost all the time whenever I'm not on Black Ops for the XBox. So while the computer is on about 14 hours per day, maybe 4-5 hours is spent gaming? I'm planning on buying games in the future, but as of now I don't have any money due to this thing, haha. ;P I'll probably be playing Minecraft as well as various other free MMORPG/FPS's until I can afford games such as Counter Strike Source, WoW (I might play this, dunno...), and anything else anyone wants to recommend to me. (I refuse to get Black Ops though, since I already have it for the XBox...)... I'll also use my rig for Photoshop and MS PAINT (mwahaha, I love this program so much!!) for artsy stuff. Goin' to college next year too so I'll probably be having 3D stuff/video stuff to do while I'm there (like Maya, Adobe After Effects, etc.)... I'll probably be doing those for a good long while. Programming I'm planning on getting into, but that isn't too important, lol. And this rig I wanted to make last through college at the least, maybe a few replacements here or there and this should suffice greatly.

  30. Colin
    Date: Thu, Dec 2 2010 03:03:48

    also, I found a cheaper DVD burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289&cm_sp=DailyDeal-_-27-106-289-_-Product I use the same one, but its kinda..its picky. it doesnt burn certain dvd's and such..i dunno, i got it cause it was 20$ at the time :dunno: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=27-106-289&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&PurchaseMark=&SelectedRating=3&VideoOnlyMark=False&VendorMark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Keywords=(keywords)&Page=1#scrollFullInfo here was the review that i wrote

  31. Storm
    Date: Thu, Dec 2 2010 04:34:34

    Hehe, since my budget allows for the DVD Burner I picked, I'll get that instead since all the reviews are positive for it. I'd much rather spend 3-4$ and get a DVD Burner that doesn't have 3-star reviews going down the entire page. xP Thanks though! And I believe I'm done with picking out parts now. All I need to do is check all the parts are compatible with each other (that'd be embarrassing if I bought the parts but then had to return them because they don't fit, haha...) and then order them! ^_^ Thanks for all your help guys.

  32. JLSpinY
    Date: Thu, Dec 2 2010 19:43:52

    Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225&cm_re=haf_x-_-11-119-225-_-Product - $200 PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207003&cm_re=xfx_psu-_-17-207-003-_-Product - $130 Optical Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289&Tpk=Lite-On%20iHAS124 - $17 CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849&cm_re=phenom_ii_x6-_-19-103-849-_-Product - $230 CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018 - $90 RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226103&cm_re=mushkin_ddr3-_-20-226-103-_-Product - x2 - $160 Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130236&Tpk=MSI%20NF980-G65 - $160 GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908&cm_re=6850-_-14-102-908-_-Product - x2 - $400 HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&cm_re=samsung_f3-_-22-152-185-_-Product - $70 OS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754 - $100 Monitors: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824002554&cm_re=nec_monitor-_-24-002-554-_-Product - x2 - $290 Total: $1857 A bit late but I suggest this. Even if you don't want to change I would strongly advise changing the Graphics card to the one I suggested as it better, and will be more future proof. The PSU I suggested is modular and will improve airflow and will make your case look tidyer all-round.

  33. Tkal
    Date: Sat, Dec 4 2010 09:10:45

    JLSpinY wrote: RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226103&cm_re=mushkin_ddr3-_-20-226-103-_-Product - x2 - $160 [B]8 GBs is overkill tbh[/B] GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908&cm_re=6850-_-14-102-908-_-Product - x2 - $400 [B]You'd get a lot more value from a single 6870[/B] Monitors: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824002554&cm_re=nec_monitor-_-24-002-554-_-Product - x2 - $290 [B]Few users actually need two displays. Getting two doesn't "future proof".[/B] Total: $1857 A bit late but I suggest this. Even if you don't want to change I would strongly advise changing the Graphics card to the one I suggested as it better, and will be more future proof. The PSU I suggested is modular and will improve airflow and will make your case look tidyer all-round.
    It's such a shame that a gaming rig like this will be outdated in about 2 years when Xbox and PS3 users can still use their 3-4 year old hardware to run visually comparable games at a fraction of the cost.

  34. JLSpinY
    Date: Sat, Dec 4 2010 21:39:47

    RAM: I think Storm said somewhere that he wanted 8GB, but I could be wrong. GPU: Meh, he has a budget to blow, may as well use it. Monitors: Yeah, that was a mistake, that I forgot to edit out :p One monitor of that standard should be enough. But having 2 monitors is really useful for pretty much anything.

  35. Storm
    Date: Sat, Dec 4 2010 22:48:01

    @JLSpinY: I would get 8 GB in the future when I need it (since RAM can move from mobo to mobo, I can simply reuse the RAM I already have and buy more when the games really start getting intensive on my rig years in the future...). Also the GPU I'm getting is plenty enough for me. Once the time comes I'll crossfire another one onto this one. Again, just another way to let me upgrade in the future without wasting too much money. I'll get another and crossfire that onto this one if I really need be, but again this one can handle anything I want to throw at it anyhow~ Thanks for the tips though. Learning all this stuff and mixing and matching is a lot of fun and really exciting. :3 I think I found a new hobby, haha.

  36. Remorse
    Date: Sat, Dec 4 2010 23:07:09

    Instead I'd get the Razer Deathadder, its superior to the lachesis, Razer Lycosa for your keyboard too =) Never really been a big fan of ATI, Nvidia are pwning them, why dont you get something along the lines of a GTX 580? Everything else looks fine, although if you had a bit more budget, I'd say to get an i7 980x Case is beautiful XD~

  37. Remorse
    Date: Sat, Dec 4 2010 23:09:13

    Tkal wrote: It's such a shame that a gaming rig like this will be outdated in about 2 years when Xbox and PS3 users can still use their 3-4 year old hardware to run visually comparable games at a fraction of the cost.
    Your consoles wont be so visually comparable to PC's if they're still running the same hardware in 3-4 years time...

  38. iMatt
    Date: Sun, Dec 5 2010 02:48:40

    Total: $1857 A bit late but I suggest this. Even if you don't want to change I would strongly advise changing the Graphics card to the one I suggested as it better, and will be more future proof. The PSU I suggested is modular and will improve airflow and will make your case look tidyer all-round.
    [/quote] Just figured I'd inform you a bit about the stuff you chose. 1.) The case, over-necessary, you can get an even better airflow case (NZXT phantom) for $135. (Looks better IMO as well) 2.) That's an SLI-chipset Motherboard. You'd be bottlenecking performance (not to mention you can't crossfire unless you have one of the two boards that support hybrid scaling) so you'd have to get Nvidia cards instead. 3.) The CPU cooler is too big for the motherboard, that thing in real life is GIGANTIC. It's near C. Master V12 size. That's overkill for someone who doesn't even know what over-clocking is lol. Any standard 30-40$ cooler will be fine, especially for AMD processors. 4.) AMD's 6000 line of Radeon cards are actually perform worse than the the 5870 X2. They were to serve as a mid-range replacement for the 5850/5870 line. They aren't future proofed at all. The new flag-ship cards with new GPU's that take advantage of the PCI-Express 3.0 bus (recently released) won't hit till next year. Bigger numbers =/= better performance. (Also they don't gain much benefit from Crossfire) the 5870 X2 still out performs them for less than $400.00 5.) Those monitors are horrible and over priced. They aren't industry grade in terms of color depiction so the higher price point isn't justified. 5ms response time for gaming is way too much. If you plan on playing anything at a high level 5ms won't cut it. (2ms or less is deal, especially if you're talking in terms of future proofing, being ready for any new games.) You can get anything better Nothing personal, just need to be a tincy bit more informed on how stuff actually works before you recommend it XD

  39. Storm
    Date: Sun, Dec 5 2010 04:21:56

    @REM: 1) When it comes to GPUs, it's really a matter of personal preference. People can argue all the time about which is better etc. but I just like the AMD line better, haha... Just personal preference and past experience. 2) The Lachesis is better... higher dpi and just plainly looks cooler. I really only picked the mouse on looks alone since the difference between the Naga, Mamba, Lachesis, etc. is so small to me that I wouldn't care. 3) Sweet titties that CPU is expensive. Actually, lemme rephrase that. SWEET TITTIES THAT CPU IS EXPENSIVE. @Everyone: I already placed my orders and stuffs today. The parts and stuff'll be coming in within 10 days max, some coming even sooner than that. Can't waiiiiiiiit~

  40. Tkal
    Date: Mon, Dec 13 2010 04:28:20

    Sorry for the slight necro, but I had to address this:

    ReM0RsE wrote: Your consoles wont be so visually comparable to PC's if they're still running the same hardware in 3-4 years time...
    The same hardware being used today to play ACII, Killzone 2, and Uncharted 2, three absolutely gorgeous games, was created 4 years ago. If you tried to get desktop hardware back then to play a similar game, you'd easily drop 3-5x as much money. The fact of the matter is that when you have a stable and standardized platform, game devs can optimize the living daylights out of their game for that system, which makes console hardware so long lasting. Sure in raw performance, a $400-500 computer could probably steamroll both the PS3 and XBox360, but you can't use all that raw performance since games can't be feasibly optimized for individual rigs.

  41. PenwisH
    Date: Mon, Dec 13 2010 10:49:54

    l maybe i'm in the minority but I prefer quieter computers. Granted my computer is slow by today's standards but it's really efficient and it is almost passive. athlon x2 4400 and 7600gt 3 gb memory enough to do everything cept game. I highly suggesst getting a Antic p180 case. Awesome airflow, build, and expandability.

  42. Colin
    Date: Tue, Dec 21 2010 20:43:08

    sorry for such a late post, ive been ahving trouble finding your thread. ive found artic 5 for cheap, its like 3 dollars cheaper, but hey, its money http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Genuine-ARTIC-SILVER-5-CPU-Paste-Ships-Today-/140488045080?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20b5bd7218#ht_2464wt_1139 shiettt i was too late >< let us know! I wanna seee pics nig!

  43. Storm
    Date: Tue, Dec 21 2010 22:29:15

    A one week bump? =_=;; Stop that.

  44. Mike
    Date: Tue, Dec 21 2010 23:35:14

    This will last you a while. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.564144 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.564020 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.568964 Knock yourself out.

  45. Colin
    Date: Wed, Dec 22 2010 04:06:04

    @Mike He already ordered the parts lol. Show us pictures mang! :( Its not a build thread without pics and tits