UPSB v4
Collaboration Organization/Signups / Themes of Pen Spinning [TOPS] - discussion/details
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Date: Thu, Jun 24 2010 05:01:10
Original Topic: http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=26159
IF YOU WANT TO EDIT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU CAN AND CANNOT EDIT :) or just pick a theme in the spoilers XP Okay~ so i thought of doing more than just a collab. i thought of doing a series of collabs in which i haven't fully decided on the name yet. So basically, each collab will have a particular theme which i choose (and you guys are more than welcome to suggest themes =]) and since it's series of collabs, i was hoping that you guys'll help me post stuff onto other boards. ... ... I was expecting to have such a huge introduction but i guess i was wrong... In Summary:
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[*]It'd be good if the editor can be different each time but it's not a priority
[*]I hope it'll be international - so i need people to spread the word^^
[*]I also hope it can be released every fortnight or so...
[*]SPRiNGFiELD is co-organizer =P
[*]Yosky is main editor
[*]Youtube Channel
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Date: Thu, Jun 24 2010 05:59:20
I recommend you put your deadline 6/26, on the Collab deadline calendar. then people can subscribe to your deadline and receive emails about it
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Date: Thu, Jun 24 2010 07:01:08
ooo thanks for the suggestion^^ okay everyone who signed up, please remember to subscribe!^^ is it possible to post a link to subscribe or do they have to go there and click subscribe?
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Date: Thu, Jun 24 2010 07:10:43
this is the direct link to get a reminder: http://forum.upsb.info/calendar.php?do=addreminder&e=5 just copy the link from when you go in your calendar entry it says "Request reminder", right click copy that
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Date: Thu, Jun 24 2010 07:42:59
okay thanks ^.^ Subscribe to creativity collab deadline reminder =3
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Date: Sat, Jun 26 2010 19:02:44
I can edit TOPS: Summer if it's not a problem.
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Date: Tue, Jun 29 2010 01:33:30
One of the TOPSs should be "Spinning Household Items." I'd like to see what people do with it.
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Date: Tue, Jun 29 2010 09:12:55
mmmm.......... i'm kinda wondering if themes like summer, winter, autumn, spring are good themes......
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Date: Tue, Jun 29 2010 10:03:20
I would speculate spinners who submit a video would only mean to have fun so it would probably be a fun collab.
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Date: Wed, Jun 30 2010 08:15:19
Updated the dates on the first post also changed a few things around. Please take note: 14. Christmas - Editor: ???? - 4/12/10 ~ 20/12/10 -- to be released on 25th 15. New Concepts - Editor: ???? - 20/12/10 ~ 28/12/10 -- to be released on 1/1/11 =] :hah: well if only it were november... :XD: w/e =P actually, i'm not sure when to make the deadline 'cos it depends on how fast the editors work... neither do i know when to post sign ups XD
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Date: Sun, Jul 4 2010 10:56:36
The collabs are going great but it's missing a lot of the Asian communities. How can we get people from KPSA, JEB and HKPSA to join? Does anyone know famous spinners from those teams personally? Perhaps you could ask them to post the collab signups on their boards. It would really help the TOPS in my opinion if some of those spinners were participating
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Date: Sat, Jul 10 2010 05:44:05
maybe u should add "spinning with a stuffed pluishie (like bonkura with yoshi in some vid)
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Date: Sat, Jul 10 2010 07:28:17
should i sub more interesting themes with those seasonal themes? the seasonal themes are based for those in the northern hemisphere =\
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Date: Sat, Jul 10 2010 08:23:43
i like seasonal themes maybe if you change the structure, so its 12 themes per set, then you could open each set with a seasonal video
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Date: Sat, Jul 10 2010 10:15:22
ugh that would mean i have to redate again D:
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Date: Sat, Jul 10 2010 11:18:06
i mean, you dont have to if you dont want to but i'm saying its an idea also, speed is up
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Date: Sat, Jul 10 2010 11:31:15
talked to springfield about this. i think we should change it. what difference would it make to the other collabs? says he... something along those lines... any other takers?
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Date: Sat, Jul 10 2010 12:22:59
hey kari. I could help you editing for difficult theme. if you want to ^^
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Date: Sun, Jul 25 2010 20:34:11
would spins be a category?
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Date: Sun, Jul 25 2010 21:05:49
DANGER THEME :3 spin with knives or in dangerous places lol
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Date: Sun, Jul 25 2010 23:04:13
blahblahting wrote: would spins be a category?
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Date: Mon, Jul 26 2010 19:52:08
@kari-chan, for the summer theme, what do we do???
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Date: Mon, Aug 9 2010 06:21:37
*sigh* well summer theme didn't go so well i reckon......... so i'm gona scrap autumn, winter and spring... anyone gots ideas to replace them? =]
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Date: Mon, Aug 9 2010 06:29:52
yes i do actually. have a music video collab where you give the spinners certain parts of the song, and the must spin with the music. a performance of pen spinners.
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Date: Mon, Aug 9 2010 08:05:40
/in \m/
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Date: Mon, Aug 9 2010 09:09:10
thesun wrote: /in \m/
this is not a sign up thread ._. -
Date: Mon, Aug 9 2010 09:12:27
Over eager fan ! LOL
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Date: Tue, Aug 17 2010 00:55:36
anyone got any more ideas??? D: pen spinning at school/work - although i kinda fear it will fail GLAND suggested multiple videos of one combo. eg my cam test XP How about multiple combos in one vid? like yosky in this except i was thinking it would be within a "combo" time as in... uh... all combos in 1 vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd_dUFcshKU
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Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 05:51:01
anyone? hello?? well a few things need to be taken care of... i need an editor for #7 also, what do you guys think of
have a music video collab where you give the spinners certain parts of the song, and the must spin with the music. a performance of pen spinners.
pen spinning at school/work GLAND suggested multiple videos of one combo. eg my cam test XP How about multiple combos in one vid? like yosky in this except i was thinking it would be within a "combo" time as in... uh... all combos in 1 vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd_dUFcshKU
as the 3 ideas to replace autumn, winter and spring #5 should be coming out soon after VikroaL's replacement editor SebuiX finishes editing. sorry for the delay guys! another thing. DO YOU GUYS WANT A BREAK?!??? it seems like the lack of videos are telling me that you guys want a break... maybe 10 collabs are too much before a break? maybe 5? -
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 07:21:12
I'd be interested in participating in a collab themed "No Hands" as in little to none interactiom between pen and hand. Being creative is key here as we dun want everyone to just be bouncing pens off their feet and legs. Maybe its alright as long as a body part other than your hand is touching the pen at all times like that ear triabgle pass thing lol.
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Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 13:06:35
I'd love multiple combos in one vid.
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Date: Fri, Sep 3 2010 12:12:43
ok i need feedback. do you guys want a break now?? #5 took a while to come out #6 is lacking vids #7 requires an editor i don't want to think about #8 T_T
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Date: Sat, Sep 4 2010 02:32:09
It seems that there are more spinners losing interest in submitting videos. You want me to start asking the other boards again??
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Date: Sat, Sep 4 2010 05:36:14
umm is difficulty coming out anytime soon? xD i remember that i liked my combo lol
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Date: Sat, Sep 4 2010 05:55:36
ithink we need advertisement. i'll go on PSH someday to advertise
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Date: Sun, Sep 5 2010 01:30:33
Nachoaddict wrote: I'd be interested in participating in a collab themed "No Hands" as in little to none interactiom between pen and hand. Being creative is key here as we dun want everyone to just be bouncing pens off their feet and legs. Maybe its alright as long as a body part other than your hand is touching the pen at all times like that ear triabgle pass thing lol.
Hello? I never even got an answer to this... I know you don't wanna think about 8 yet Kari chan but just throwing this out there. -
Date: Tue, Sep 7 2010 01:02:36
oh crap yeah that sounds good XP sorry i'm a bit busy D: got so much work >< if you guys would advertise it would be really great. i wish i could =\ but work DD:
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Date: Wed, Sep 8 2010 23:44:07
cruddy! #7 deadline was last saturday......... and... i don't know what to do with #8 now ><
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Date: Thu, Sep 9 2010 01:14:36
i'll say release the thread first. then we see how things go. what i'm afraid is low submission
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Date: Sun, Sep 12 2010 19:35:03
i think that you have to take a break..forget the dl that you have planned till this day for next tops.. we should promote this in all possible communities to get more people, and more editors also..when everything be organized again open the thread for the next top.. i think that open other thread when the above thread is not over causes disorganization...
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Date: Mon, Sep 13 2010 01:39:50
Kari-Chan wrote: oh crap yeah that sounds good XP sorry i'm a bit busy D: got so much work >< if you guys would advertise it would be really great. i wish i could =\ but work DD:
Yeah that or maybe a "Two Hands" theme where the majority of the tricks must involve both hands. In other words both hands are on the pen for the majority of the combo. -
Date: Mon, Sep 13 2010 03:05:28
I think a break is necessary. Or just give a long time to film or say like "submit for TOPS #8 (creativity) or #9(infinities)" then give them like a month to submit for either catagory.
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Date: Mon, Sep 13 2010 08:29:55
Tops #1-#8 is season 1 Next year there shall be season 2 With tops #9 & #10 as a finale ? IM BOERD
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Date: Mon, Sep 13 2010 09:29:44
SebuiX wrote: i think that you have to take a break..forget the dl that you have planned till this day for next tops.. we should promote this in all possible communities to get more people, and more editors also..when everything be organized again open the thread for the next top.. i think that open other thread when the above thread is not over causes disorganization...
yeah, i think its a good point most of the tops collabs have the same spinners in it, mostly due to the variety of spinners that submitted (due to the lack of advertising?) once every 2 weeks does seem too quick/hectic to produce once a month is a good starting point i think i'm assuming that you want TOPS to be a "high quality", "this is what pen spinning is about" collabs to show the pen spinning community? then advertising by saying "look, supawit was in this one" or "look at the super-awesome editing job that glands did for the difficulty collab" is a good way to advertise (also, we need people to go to the various boards) -
Date: Mon, Sep 13 2010 13:21:54
Heh, If u don't have editors, I can edit some TOPS. My last project: Phantasm 1st.
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Date: Tue, Sep 14 2010 15:59:23
I want to join the themeless....but its sooooo faaaarrr away!!!!
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Date: Tue, Sep 14 2010 19:24:25
Kari-Chan wrote: ok i need feedback. do you guys want a break now?? #5 took a while to come out #6 is lacking vids #7 requires an editor i don't want to think about #8 T_T
maybe we should consider not as heavy filtering? also ya we should advertise to other boards -
Date: Tue, Sep 14 2010 20:23:25
#5 is public #6 is public #7 need people (editor: Jan) #8 need people (editor: Phantasm) Its okey?
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Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 08:33:06
mintypaladin wrote: maybe we should consider not as heavy filtering?
i think filtering is needed so that this series of collabs doesn't become complete rubbish thats a little harsh.... need a more... tactful word this is meant to be a good showcase of all the different areas of psing, meaning (ideally) its the best of the best spinners producing the best combos -
Date: Thu, Sep 16 2010 01:01:46
mintypaladin wrote: maybe we should consider not as heavy filtering? also ya we should advertise to other boards
this is not the problem, the problem is the shortage of spinners that want to participate -
Date: Thu, Sep 16 2010 06:40:25
To be honest, the novelty has worn off. Like if we had a new JapEn every 2 weeks people wouldn't even bother watching after a while. It would just be like Meh. I think that the time for each collab should be moved to 1month for more excitement and more time to prepare. Just my 2cents
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Date: Thu, Sep 16 2010 12:07:22
yea twine is right. and yeah i'm a big fan of phantasm's editing, i hope he can edit for us ^^
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Date: Wed, Sep 22 2010 07:56:47
very well then. the collab sign ups will be posted when i feel like it's time to post but it'll still be in the same order that we have which means... EVERYONE IGNORE THE DATES! XP due dates... well... within a month i guess XP
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Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 00:57:44
I would like to note that you should use more of the weirder themes now Kari. With the new 1 month per collab thingy, It'll be much better not to exhaust all the normal(ish) themes now. If not in the future, when all of these normal ones are gone, this project would be pretty unappealing to many spinners
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Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 02:06:18
Another thing, Kari Perhaps if you have the luxury of choice for editors, you could choose the one that has a more intimate knowledge on the theme and the one who is more responsible and better at editing? Not based on who is first.
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Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 14:06:23
So many WoW!
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Date: Wed, Oct 6 2010 03:51:40
Please, when you have to send the download link to the mail put: "Hi, im "nick(example: SebuiX) and this is my download link" Beacuse in some cases the editors have to guess who is spinning.. thanks!^^
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Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 08:40:42
More themes... Wipers, Arounds, Finger dexterity, DC mods?, SC mods? Also would it be a good idea if you try another approach to the whole sign up thing? I was thinking maybe you have 2 simultaneous TOPS sign ups going on but theres no due date until you get a certain number of good combos for each collab and when that is done the next sign up will be released. Obviously the 2 TOPS sign ups wont be corresponding so it'll give a natural pace to the TOPS project. Plus if one of them was the normal ones and the other line was the crazier ideas it won't make the TOPS project weird in the future but give a healthy variety of stuff constantly.
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Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 10:16:22
if there's no due date, the vids will never come in... it's happened before. due dates push people to sending things in
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Date: Sun, Oct 17 2010 12:20:49
Hippo2626 wrote: I would like to note that you should use more of the weirder themes now Kari. With the new 1 month per collab thingy, It'll be much better not to exhaust all the normal(ish) themes now. If not in the future, when all of these normal ones are gone, this project would be pretty unappealing to many spinners
I reorganised the listWhat do you think?Spoiler
1. Aerials – 20/10/10 - 20/11/10 2. Outside – 20/11/10 – 20/12/10 3. MX only – 20/12/10 – 20/01/11 4. Puppets – 20/01/11 – 20/02/11 5. Copy Eriror – 20/02/11 – 20/03/11 6. Errors – 20/03/11 – 20/04/11 7. Power Tricks (Thai Style) – 20/04/11 – 20/05/11 8. Pretty Hands – 20/05/11 – 20/06/11 9. personal Mod only – 20/06/11 – 20/07/11 10. Blindfold – 20/07/11 – 20/08/11 11. Multiple combos in one vid – 20/08/11 – 20/09/11 12. Not pens – 20/09/11 – 20/10/11 13. 1No Power Tricks (Korean Style) – 20/10/11 – 20/11/11 14. Stringed – 20/11/11 – 20/12/11 15. Unmodded – 20/12/11 – 20/01/12 16. Multi Tasking – 20/01/12 – 20/02/12 17. Pass on – 20/02/12 – 20/03/12 18. Cosplay – 20/03/12 – 20/04/12 19. 2p1h – 20/04/12 – 20/05/12 20. Hand Behind Back – 20/05/12 – 20/06/12 21. Copy – 20/06/12 – 20/07/12 22. Nature – 20/07/12 – 20/08/12 23. Continuous – 20/08/12 – 20/09/12 24. No Hands – 20/09/12 – 20/10/12 25. Arounds – 20/10/12 – 20/11/12 26. Themeless (not penspinning) – 20/11/12 – 20/12/12 27. Black/White – 20/12/12 – 20/01/13 28. Odd Places – 20/01/13 – 20/02/13 29. New Concepts – 20/02/13 – 20/03/13 30. Self-Copy – 20/03/13 – 20/04/13 31. multiple videos of one combo – 20/04/13 – 20/05/13 32. Multiple (Spins) – 20/05/13 – 20/06/13 33. 1p2h – 20/06/13 – 20/07/13 34. Rainbow – 20/07/13 – 20/08/13 35. Pairs – 20/08/13 – 20/09/13 36. Wipers – 20/10/13 – 20/11/13 37. Finger dexterity – 20/11/13 – 20/12/13 38. DC mods – 20/12/13 – 20/01/14 39. New Linkages – 20/01/14 – 20/02/14 40. Self-Copy – 20/02/14 – 20/03/14 41. Dangerous – 20/03/14 – 20/04/14 42. SC mods – 20/04/14 – 20/05/14 43. Music video – 20/05/14 – 20/06/14 44. Assisted – 20/06/14 – 20/07/14 45. 2p2h – 20/07/14 – 20/08/14 -
Date: Mon, Oct 18 2010 15:53:53
@Hippo2626 u should bump "themeless" up!! :P:P
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Date: Tue, Oct 19 2010 00:31:39
@Darealone Why? Also I had an idea to get more spinners involved in this project. We can do like an advertisement thing to tell the PS community about the coming few TOPS projects (maybe 4-5) and that advert will tell everyone the due dates for all those projects. They can start recording for those collabs now which gives ample time to collect many many combos for each collab. This advert is like a video sign up for several collabs. Thoughts?
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Date: Tue, Oct 19 2010 02:31:57
i personally think themeless is a shit idea it happened with variety, where all the combos lacked a focus on a strong theme it just turned into a normal collab yes, there can be great spinning in it, but it detracts from the point of the whole collab series, where each week (or 2 weeks, or whatever) we showcase a different aspect of pen spinning and with the advertisements, you mean kinda like gland's promo for the difficulty collab? i think thats a good idea, except i lack the adobe after effects to make the promo XP
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Date: Tue, Oct 19 2010 02:46:18
@k-ryder To be honest the Technical themes like variety, control and whatever can be great if we get good entries. The main problem is that too few and too little spinners are participating so we don't have the choice of filtering the bad ones out. And I think Themeless is a normal collab. not really sure about what it actually is though. The advert thing is something like Gland's idea but to get more spinners to sign up. I kinda' got eager to do it yesterday so I started working on it a bit. Any other comments about the list?
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Date: Tue, Oct 19 2010 15:10:16
@Hippo2626 Because its the only collab im gonna be able to make
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Date: Tue, Oct 19 2010 15:49:27
ide participate a bit more but the themes r just getting rediculous, not well defined and hard to show
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Date: Sun, Oct 24 2010 02:52:42
TOPS 9 uploading now also, if you can, could you please rename ur video file so it has your name in it its helps the editors a lot i tend to like having the community name under the spinner name, if you could put that in the email also, would be great
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Date: Sun, Nov 21 2010 20:19:09
when tops 10 is coming??
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Date: Mon, Nov 22 2010 04:02:30
sorry i got distracted by my holiday XP i'll post sign ups now
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Date: Mon, Nov 22 2010 15:30:56
okay
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Date: Tue, Nov 23 2010 00:58:21
Hippo2626 wrote:
what do people think about hippo's new list?Spoiler
1. Aerials – 20/10/10 - 20/11/10 2. Outside – 20/11/10 – 20/12/10 3. MX only – 20/12/10 – 20/01/11 4. Puppets – 20/01/11 – 20/02/11 5. Copy Eriror – 20/02/11 – 20/03/11 6. Errors – 20/03/11 – 20/04/11 7. Power Tricks (Thai Style) – 20/04/11 – 20/05/11 8. Pretty Hands – 20/05/11 – 20/06/11 9. personal Mod only – 20/06/11 – 20/07/11 10. Blindfold – 20/07/11 – 20/08/11 11. Multiple combos in one vid – 20/08/11 – 20/09/11 12. Not pens – 20/09/11 – 20/10/11 13. 1No Power Tricks (Korean Style) – 20/10/11 – 20/11/11 14. Stringed – 20/11/11 – 20/12/11 15. Unmodded – 20/12/11 – 20/01/12 16. Multi Tasking – 20/01/12 – 20/02/12 17. Pass on – 20/02/12 – 20/03/12 18. Cosplay – 20/03/12 – 20/04/12 19. 2p1h – 20/04/12 – 20/05/12 20. Hand Behind Back – 20/05/12 – 20/06/12 21. Copy – 20/06/12 – 20/07/12 22. Nature – 20/07/12 – 20/08/12 23. Continuous – 20/08/12 – 20/09/12 24. No Hands – 20/09/12 – 20/10/12 25. Arounds – 20/10/12 – 20/11/12 26. Themeless (not penspinning) – 20/11/12 – 20/12/12 27. Black/White – 20/12/12 – 20/01/13 28. Odd Places – 20/01/13 – 20/02/13 29. New Concepts – 20/02/13 – 20/03/13 30. Self-Copy – 20/03/13 – 20/04/13 31. multiple videos of one combo – 20/04/13 – 20/05/13 32. Multiple (Spins) – 20/05/13 – 20/06/13 33. 1p2h – 20/06/13 – 20/07/13 34. Rainbow – 20/07/13 – 20/08/13 35. Pairs – 20/08/13 – 20/09/13 36. Wipers – 20/10/13 – 20/11/13 37. Finger dexterity – 20/11/13 – 20/12/13 38. DC mods – 20/12/13 – 20/01/14 39. New Linkages – 20/01/14 – 20/02/14 40. Self-Copy – 20/02/14 – 20/03/14 41. Dangerous – 20/03/14 – 20/04/14 42. SC mods – 20/04/14 – 20/05/14 43. Music video – 20/05/14 – 20/06/14 44. Assisted – 20/06/14 – 20/07/14 45. 2p2h – 20/07/14 – 20/08/14 -
Date: Wed, Mar 30 2011 17:01:57
It's my first post on this board, so Hello :)) My english isn't very good so I write simple sentences. I hope that you'll understand me. I really like the Themes Of Pen Spinning project. Unfortunately i don't see new videos of this project. I have read a few posts in this thread and I see that there are no people who want to share with others. I want to ask - do you plan to do another videos of this project? I'm sorry if you have written about this, I remind that my english isn't good and I don't understand everything.
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Date: Thu, Mar 31 2011 02:18:53
The only reason TOPS 10 hasn't been released yet was because the incentive to submit good strong clips for the collab went way down from what it was when the series first started. Personally I don't know what will happen to the future of the project. Kari-Chan or Springfield would have to tell you.
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Date: Thu, Mar 31 2011 02:21:22
OK this may be a very stupid idea, but im throwing it out there. TOPS: Style Well? :P
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Date: Thu, Mar 31 2011 02:34:43
^JEB pumps out multiple collabs every week already... we don't need more. On a more serious note, how would we define style then?
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Date: Thu, Mar 31 2011 02:42:09
style as in the most aesthetically pleasing styles namely, HAL's
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Date: Thu, Mar 31 2011 02:45:00
Like I said in the shoutbox.
Not everyone likes a certain style and also that style is unique to one person. It would be hard for some people to replicate it. I think you're really limiting who submits if you do a theme like that
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Date: Thu, Mar 31 2011 03:21:32
Hm... but every theme limits who submits. Not exclusive to style. I think it's more of an issue of "aesthetically pleasing" because that's opinionated. And imo, a style-themed TOPS seems redundant to me... collabs are meant to show off the styles of multiple spinners after all. I thought the point of TOPS was to explore other parts of pen spinning not usually shown in the typical collab.
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Date: Thu, Mar 31 2011 05:11:34
What I meant by "really limiting" was you're limiting more than the other themes. I have to agree with what you said too though, casual.
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Date: Thu, Mar 31 2011 06:37:29
@Kari-Chan mabey you can skip this one and try to do that later
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Date: Mon, Apr 4 2011 21:57:03
Wat about TOPS "Power"? people who use a lot of power trick (spam) and use it well. We could prob get peem to submit if that were the case