UPSB v4
Fundamental Tricks / Sonic Reverse
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Date: Tue, Jun 8 2010 09:09:10
[B]Sonic Reverse[/B] This trick is similar to the Sonic Normal trick in that it moves the pen from one finger slot to another, but Sonic Normal moves the pen up the hand. While doing Sonic Reverse, the pen will be moving down the hand. It will move the exact opposite from Sonic Normal, and will need to be done the exact opposite as well. While Sonic Normal uses a Charge-like motion to move the pen upwards in addition to bending the middle finger downwards, Sonic Reverse uses a Charge Reverse-like motion to move the pen downwards in addition to bending the middle finger downwards. Unlike Sonic Normal though, using the thumbflap to build pressure to launch the pen does not work in this case. The thumbflap may NOT be used to perform Sonic Reverse. Video Tutorial by KTrinh93 Video Tutorial by Pari UPSB Wiki entry
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Date: Mon, Dec 13 2010 18:52:49
i can do it by 12-23, but its hard on 23-34 because the pinky is quite short =/
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Date: Sun, May 29 2011 01:30:53
this is so hard i just cant get it :|
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Date: Mon, Jun 27 2011 08:36:55
Keep doing charge reverse and try to move your middle finger forward. You ring finger should move up and catch the pen.
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Date: Sun, Jul 3 2011 09:21:59
I don't get this. Any idea why? ):
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Date: Mon, Jul 11 2011 00:21:12
This is gonna take me a while to learn, but it'll pay off. First attempt = Flicked it out of my hands some how, it bounced off the wall and hit me in the face. This then caused me to fall of my chair and hit my head off my wall. Not looking or feeling good at the moment. Fuuuu-
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Date: Mon, Jul 11 2011 01:25:36
Wolfe wrote: This is gonna take me a while to learn, but it'll pay off. First attempt = Flicked it out of my hands some how, it bounced off the wall and hit me in the face. This then caused me to fall of my chair and hit my head off my wall. Not looking or feeling good at the moment. Fuuuu-
I would recommend learning sonic clip and charge rev first. If you can do those well, sonic rev should be pretty easy -
Date: Mon, Jul 11 2011 06:32:27
Ok, I'll give Sonic clip a go, cheers.
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Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 06:47:44
ok so i threw the pen around 5 times in my office monitor... i guess my boss is going to kill me... lol... still can't get the technique... >__> any tips?
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Date: Wed, Jul 13 2011 09:46:12
keikei wrote: ok so i threw the pen around 5 times in my office monitor... i guess my boss is going to kill me... lol... still can't get the technique... >__> any tips?
if you already know the sonic normal then this should be pretty easy, just keep practising the reverse motion -
Date: Thu, Jul 14 2011 01:46:01
keikei wrote: ok so i threw the pen around 5 times in my office monitor... i guess my boss is going to kill me... lol... still can't get the technique... >__> any tips?
Pen spinning is all about control and smoothness. If you're pen is flying into your monitor you are using too much force, be gentle with it, just let it fall down a slot. -
Date: Mon, Jul 18 2011 06:55:21
Awesome wrote: Pen spinning is all about control and smoothness. If you're pen is flying into your monitor you are using too much force, be gentle with it, just let it fall down a slot.
can't get the right amount of force into it, and i can't get it to go down i end up making a rev charge -
Date: Mon, Jul 18 2011 15:36:59
Try bringing your middlefinger closer to your indexfinger while doing your rev charge =D This trick doesn't need any force ;)
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Date: Sat, Oct 1 2011 05:27:05
I can do the trick 12-23 but not 23-34. Any tips on how to do it 23-34?
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Date: Sat, Oct 1 2011 05:57:09
ron-g wrote: I can do the trick 12-23 but not 23-34. Any tips on how to do it 23-34?
Try this: after doing sonic rev 12-23 pull your ring finger in Towards your palm. This way you are trying to do a sonic fall (I guess that's what it is called). So basically as the sonic rev 12-23 is finishing, pull ring finger forward to force it to spin into the 34 slot. I think it helps if you do it palm sideways as well. I hope that helps. -_- -
Date: Sat, Oct 1 2011 13:06:33
i suggest you bend your ring finger down toward your palm whilst bring your pinky and middle finger together and as soon as the pen makes contact with the pinky, bring your ring finger back up so that it slides on top of the pen. hope i helped
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Date: Sun, Oct 30 2011 08:39:52
i can do it 12-23 but learning 23-34. well i learned the motion of charge reverse on 1-2 and i tried to do sonic reverse without resting it on the palm. once i can switch it to 23 but not getting the circular motion i tried resting it on the palm and i can do it now. also i tried charge reverse on 12 and yes i can. now learning TA reverse which is harder IMO
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Date: Wed, Nov 2 2011 00:13:50
girarae wrote: i can do it 12-23 but learning 23-34. well i learned the motion of charge reverse on 1-2 and i tried to do sonic reverse without resting it on the palm. once i can switch it to 23 but not getting the circular motion i tried resting it on the palm and i can do it now. also i tried charge reverse on 12 and yes i can. now learning TA reverse which is harder IMO
For more circular motion, i suggest to you to make a Sonic Fall, when you continue the Sonic Rev 12-23, then you must do the 23-34 fast, traning this trick will better your motion. Other thing you could do, is to training the Charge Rev on 23, cause is the key in the Sonic Rev 23-34. -
Date: Mon, Mar 19 2012 13:17:03
Euphoria wrote: I don't get this. Any idea why? ):
Maybe you can try pushing your hand back to make the pen go up... -
Date: Tue, Mar 20 2012 04:15:32
Sonic Rev. is Really Hard 4 me !
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Date: Tue, Mar 20 2012 21:30:09
johndspinner99 wrote: Sonic Rev. is Really Hard 4 me !
be sure to bend the middle finger in and index and ring out and in a charge rev sorta motion (if 12-23) -
Date: Thu, Mar 22 2012 07:37:20
tnx for help :)
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Date: Thu, Mar 22 2012 21:03:49
np
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Date: Sat, Mar 24 2012 14:28:52
first thing first: do charge rev on 12 and 34
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Date: Wed, Apr 18 2012 16:25:29
waht's the point of learning reverse sonic if you have normal sonic???
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Date: Thu, Apr 19 2012 07:40:44
@Xmanmat2 It's nice to be able to know reverses, it's like saying what's the point of learning Thumbaround Reverse, if you know Thumbaround. If you only know "normal" of every trick, your combo will only be going in 1 direction, the reverse of the trick let's you change directions and be more creative :)
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Date: Mon, Jun 11 2012 01:59:59
Maybe you guys should try to jerk your hand back just a little first.... Than you will get the momentum.... And sooner or later you will get the trick without jerking your hand back.... That's how I learnt sonic rev. :)
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Date: Mon, Jun 11 2012 03:56:43
lol wen i wuz learning it i got it messed up so i thought charge was charge reverse and charge reverse wuz charge. it just kinda came one day, thats how i learned it EDIT: shit i thought i wuz posting this in a different thread :facepalm:
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Date: Mon, Jul 9 2012 15:58:56
i can manage to do it hardly i can spin it but ihave difficulty getting the position of the catch any1 knw why
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Date: Mon, Jul 9 2012 16:12:52
joelspinner wrote: i can manage to do it hardly i can spin it but ihave difficulty getting the position of the catch any1 knw why
I'm not sure what you mean, but this is how I learnt it. I kept using my left hand to guide the mod to do the sonic reverse. This sort of helped me learn the movement of the pen and fingers. -
Date: Mon, Jul 30 2012 05:44:22
any tips on how to do it from 2-3>3-4 ... i think thats the way to type it..
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Date: Mon, Jul 30 2012 08:12:55
Leonardlnx wrote: any tips on how to do it from 2-3>3-4 ... i think thats the way to type it..
For me, I learnt sonic reverse by basically performing the sonic fall(is there such a thing) except with my other hab guiding and directing it so after a while I got the hand movement. The important thing is the hand movement. -
Date: Mon, Jul 30 2012 10:07:31
Apocalyptic Shadows wrote: For me, I learnt sonic reverse by basically performing the sonic fall(is there such a thing) except with my other hab guiding and directing it so after a while I got the hand movement. The important thing is the hand movement.
@Apocalyptic Shadows.wads sonic fall?i dun think theres such a move. To all having trouble:learning reverse charge first would help you learn the reverse sonic faster.oh...and take a video of a sonic and rewind it if you dunno how it moves -
Date: Mon, Jul 30 2012 10:20:48
agillitrhiz wrote: @Apocalyptic Shadows.wads sonic fall?i dun think theres such a move. To all having trouble:learning reverse charge first would help you learn the reverse sonic faster.oh...and take a video of a sonic and rewind it if you dunno how it moves
Lol long quote. If there is such a thing, it would mean sonic reverse starting at 12 down to 23 and to 34 -
Date: Mon, Jul 30 2012 10:44:57
lol...i'd rather call it reverse rise.
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Date: Mon, Jul 30 2012 14:23:15
i don't know if it would help you or not.i found out that do sonic reverse after normal sonic is much easier to perform sonic reverse.you could do that first and do sonic reverse individually after you get familiar with sonic reverse motion.
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Date: Mon, Jul 30 2012 21:14:33
Sonic fall does exist, but I believe it's what used to be called moonwalk sonic fall Now it's just notated as sonic 12-23>sonic 23-34 Sonic rev fall would be sonic rev 12-23>sonic 23-34 @Leonardlnx do you kno how to do sonic rev 12-23? If so, strengthen ur pinky more and it should be the same idea And the correct notation is sonic reverse 23-34
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Date: Mon, Jul 30 2012 23:53:59
yea but its a little choppy
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Date: Tue, Jul 31 2012 00:57:48
it doesnt look like a rotation ... and hits parts of my fingers
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Date: Tue, Jul 31 2012 22:59:18
@Leonardlnx nice double post moving on, your not very specific, which part of your finger does it hit. and if its choppy, that just takes practice to smooth out. btw ur profile pic lol acchi kocchi, where my sig is from ahah
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Date: Wed, Aug 1 2012 05:14:58
oh srry for the double post. i didnt know how to edit it.
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Date: Tue, Aug 7 2012 11:59:12
@Kyoflow moonwalk sonic?i've searched it on the wiki page and i still dun get it.does somebody,other than kyoflow,pass me a vid tutorial?
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Date: Tue, Aug 7 2012 13:59:49
is it something like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPLwCnZq1FM
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Date: Tue, Aug 7 2012 16:11:46
@agillitrhiz giotto found a vid:
Giotto wrote: is it something like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPLwCnZq1FM
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Date: Sun, Aug 12 2012 05:52:16
@Giotto. tks
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Date: Tue, Nov 13 2012 03:48:27
when performing a sonic reverse 23-34 I nearly always end up catching the pen off-centre in the 34 slot, so that the majority of the pen is on the palm-side of my hand. This is especially a problem when I try it palm-down. I'm trying to work towards being able to do a sonic rise/fall harmonic, and I can do all other components to this trick fine (sonic rise, sonic reverse 12-23), but catching the pen like this makes it impossible to follow on with a regular sonic 34-23... any tips?? :s
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Date: Tue, Nov 13 2012 04:18:00
magic_claws wrote: when performing a sonic reverse 23-34 I nearly always end up catching the pen off-centre in the 34 slot, so that the majority of the pen is on the palm-side of my hand. This is especially a problem when I try it palm-down. I'm trying to work towards being able to do a sonic rise/fall harmonic, and I can do all other components to this trick fine (sonic rise, sonic reverse 12-23), but catching the pen like this makes it impossible to follow on with a regular sonic 34-23... any tips?? :s
You could start by trying to learn sonic rev clip 23-24 > charge rev 24. Basically you stop the sonic rev half way and then try to do charge rev. Get used to holding the pen in the "clipped" slot (24) and doing charges there. Its a harder trick but by trying this harder trick it should make sonic rev 23-34 seem easy. Other than that keep practicing and you'll get it :) -
Date: Tue, Nov 13 2012 04:38:02
Awesome wrote: You could start by trying to learn sonic rev clip 23-24 > charge rev 24. Basically you stop the sonic rev half way and then try to do charge rev. Get used to holding the pen in the "clipped" slot (24) and doing charges there. Its a harder trick but by trying this harder trick it should make sonic rev 23-34 seem easy. Other than that keep practicing and you'll get it :)
Oh god the feeling of holding the pen like that makes my fingers want to throw up lol. Thanks though, it seems like trying that will encourage my ring finger to start bending down properly which I suspect may be part of the problem. -
Date: Wed, Nov 21 2012 12:03:29
every time i try to do it on 12-23 it seems like my fingers are paralyze... clueless fingers... XD
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Date: Wed, Nov 21 2012 13:11:01
@hunterken48 How about start it with charge rev or continue doing it after do the sonic normal.both might give you some power to start sonic rev^_^
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Date: Tue, Dec 11 2012 12:17:41
@Giotto thanks!! already mastered it!..
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Date: Tue, Dec 11 2012 15:53:02
@hunterken48 no problem! I'm glad you've mastered it:D
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Date: Tue, Dec 25 2012 02:11:44
So should I move my index finger backwards for the sonic motion or is this another completely different technique?
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Date: Tue, Dec 25 2012 09:34:43
Any way to learn rev sonic without knowing rev charge?
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Date: Tue, Dec 25 2012 13:17:18
SwitchPalm wrote: Any way to learn rev sonic without knowing rev charge?
I learnt rev sonic before rev charge, just practise, it took 2 days. -
Date: Tue, Dec 25 2012 18:36:54
Markopokodude wrote: So should I move my index finger backwards for the sonic motion or is this another completely different technique?
Yes, you can move your index finger back and also you can get pressure by pressing it against the left side of your palm when it's facing up, this is away you can learn it pressured, to learn unpressured you would just move your index finger, but I would recommend learning it pressured first. Hope this helps. :) -
Date: Wed, Dec 26 2012 00:58:28
Ah, that's smart. It's much easier pressured, I actually got it on my first try. Thanks! :)
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Date: Wed, Dec 26 2012 14:49:37
You are :welcome: keep practicing.
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Date: Fri, Jan 4 2013 23:36:15
thanks
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Date: Sat, Jan 5 2013 10:23:21
i have been practicing this for 3 weeks, but still can not do it.
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Date: Fri, Apr 12 2013 08:22:48
Epic wrote: this is so hard i just cant get it :|
Do you know the charge reverse? if you do then just flick the pen up in slot 12 and a charge like motion will be present. now make some gap in slot 23 to catch Hope it Helps! :D -
Date: Fri, Apr 12 2013 10:56:11
Wow now i learned it i look so cool it look more better than the normal one
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Date: Sat, Sep 6 2014 06:48:42
I finaly did it / cry after 9 hours or practice straight :/