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Forum Games / --------Mafia Game 3 Day1--------
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 16:28:41
Game 2 Day 1 starts! @Chobi [B]Story[/B]: All of you have just infiltrated, the enemy walls. Your orders were to infiltrate the city of Terrice and to weaken the walls, so that the main army can break through the walls easily. However, once reaching there a random string of murders, within your group start to occur. You and the others, realize there are counter-intelligence within your group. You know that there are [B]5 Counter-Intelligence (Mafia)[/B] Can you find all of them and eliminate them, in time before the invasion? Only Time will Tell. [SIZE="4"][B]Please Read the SPOILER[/B][/SIZE]
In case anyone is new you can check out the rules here http://forum.upsb.info/showthread.php?t=16578 Here is the timer http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20140418T1240&p0=%3A&msg=Mafia+Day+1&csz=1 Also DO NOT edit your post, instead, post again. Good Luck!Spoiler
I have added two new roles to the setup pool. One is the [B]Undercover Cop[/B] The mafia must [B]lynch[/B] the undercover cop during the day phase. The mafia [B]CANNOT[/B] kill another mafia during the night The Undercover cop has no power other than the fact that he knows all of the roles The Undercover Cop in order to win must be alive in the end In order for the villagers or mafia to win they must lynch the undercover cop Like i said the role was added in the setup pool, the role may or may not be in this game The second role is the Psychic This person is on the side of no one, and only wins when they are alive in the end Because no one knows who they are, anyone is free to "bluff" and pretend they are psychic. They have no power, other than knowing all of the players alignments In order for any side to win, the psychic must be lynched or killed. You may choose to believe them, that is up to you This one is definitively in the game. -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 16:31:42
Let the games begin.
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 16:38:23
Looks good. Hey, if the undercover cop just reveals everyone at the get-go and lynches prove him to be right, can't you just win outright?
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 16:42:00
The undercover cop, has been nerfed, he must be lynched in order for any side to win, and he can only announce one name everyday.
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 16:46:15
yeahhh
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 16:58:11
So if the mafia must lynch the undercover cop during the day then by the next day we will know who the mafia is/are. Since the role of the lynched player will be revealed, and we know who lynched them. This seems like a flaw in the game.
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 16:59:26
Since the mafia can't lynch anyone else other than the undercover cop.
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 17:12:31
Implications of he new roles aside, this is gonna be ridiculously tough for us... If both the Cop and the Psychic are in this game there are 5 mafia, 2 independent players and only 7 townies. We don't have a lot of leeway to make mistakes, guys. A couple of townies lynched and there will be no one left of us :( Also, @Supergirl, I think you misunderstand what he is saying. The point is probably that they cannot kill the cop by night, and if they want to get rid of him they'll have to lynch, which makes their activities more suspicious. I'll try to go more indepth later but this seems like points we will have to check out.
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 17:14:43
So correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like the undercover cop is by himself in this, because for either side to win the undercover cop must die?
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 17:18:12
Tentcell wrote: So correct me if I'm wrong but it looks like the undercover cop is by himself in this, because for either side to win the undercover cop must die?
Looks like it, same with the Psychic. -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 17:22:41
Erirornal Kraione wrote: Implications of he new roles aside, this is gonna be ridiculously tough for us... If both the Cop and the Psychic are in this game there are 5 mafia, 2 independent players and only 7 townies. We don't have a lot of leeway to make mistakes, guys. A couple of townies lynched and there will be no one left of us :( Also, @Supergirl, I think you misunderstand what he is saying. The point is probably that they cannot kill the cop by night, and if they want to get rid of him they'll have to lynch, which makes their activities more suspicious. I'll try to go more indepth later but this seems like points we will have to check out.
That's what I'm saying lmao. -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 17:24:55
It sounded like you were saying they cannot lynch anyone else but the Cop, which sounds false. They probably still have the option to lynch townies or the Psychic, just like the rest. :P
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 17:29:14
Erirornal Kraione wrote: It sounded like you were saying they cannot lynch anyone else but the Cop, which sounds false. They probably still have the option to lynch townies or the Psychic, just like the rest. :P
Wait, it says: "The mafia [B]must[/B] lynch the undercover cop during the day phase." It sounds like that the mafia can only lynch the undercover cop. Is it not? -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 17:29:37
What do you guys think? It may seem complex but if it is too much i will try to switch the roles out. Sorry again if it is too much for some of you @Supergirl, they will have to, eventually, which is why i wrote that.
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 17:30:52
Supergirl wrote: Wait, it says: "The mafia [B]must[/B] lynch the undercover cop during the day phase." It sounds like that the mafia can only lynch the undercover cop. Is it not?
To me it just sounds as if they cannot do the opposite, which is killing them at night. It would be some undercover cop if the mafia already know who he is too. :P -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 17:43:10
I don't get the storyline? Why Dafuq we got it?
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 17:44:25
ShadowParadox wrote: I don't get the storyline? Why Dafuq we got it?
To give the game some narrative, which makes it more interesting. -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 17:46:05
Yeah, I'm thinkin' the undercover cop can't be killed by the mafia (assassinated I mean) since they don't have perfect information (i.e they don't know who is uc cop and who is mafia). Should be interesting...if its even in the game lol. Could just be a giant troll by Zen, and uc cop isn't even in this match. Also, Kraione, going a bit hard for the spy team aren't we? How many times did you use the words "we townies" in your post? Investigation imminent!
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 17:46:11
Ok I'm just gonna stick to the normal storyline...less confusing
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 17:51:19
Haha, investigate all you want! I am clean. :D I just tried to specify because people might be suspicious of the exact opposite! Sorry to get your alarm bells ringing there.
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 17:53:04
Shihab wrote: Yeah, I'm thinkin' the undercover cop can't be killed by the mafia (assassinated I mean) since they don't have perfect information (i.e they don't know who is uc cop and who is mafia). Should be interesting...if its even in the game lol. Could just be a giant troll by Zen, and uc cop isn't even in this match. Also, Kraione, going a bit hard for the spy team aren't we? How many times did you use the words [B]"we townies"[/B] in your post? Investigation imminent!
Eriror never used the exact words "we townies" in his posts so far. -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 17:54:12
Could we get this thing sticky pls?
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 18:01:13
Stickified for your pleasure.
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 18:15:27
@Supergirl Wasn't bein' literal, just meant that he was pushing hard for the villager team right off the get-go. He did use the word "us" quite a few times though right? @Kraione That I will Kraione, that I will :D
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 18:21:35
Anyone else thought of going to google and typing "how to always win mafia"?
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 18:25:17
No, thanks. I play fair.
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 18:33:43
cTreative_ wrote: No, thanks. I play fair.
U make it sound like googling something is gonna automatically make it happen...like curing HIV. -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 19:02:57
ShadowParadox wrote: U make it sound like googling something is gonna automatically make it happen...like curing HIV.
Well then... -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 19:06:45
Erirornal Kraione wrote: Well then...
Lol -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 19:17:26
ShadowParadox wrote: U make it sound like googling something is gonna automatically make it happen...like curing HIV.
By googling you are trying to cheat. I might not give you anything useful, but you are still trying to get an advantage. P.S. My internet went down when I wanted to reply ._. Luck -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 19:27:11
Gonna be fun!
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 19:28:37
You guys enjoy arguing over petty things? Completely ignoring the main problem at hand
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 20:38:57
Shihab wrote: Yeah, I'm thinkin' the undercover cop can't be killed by the mafia (assassinated I mean) since they don't have perfect information (i.e they don't know who is uc cop and who is mafia). Should be interesting...if its even in the game lol. Could just be a giant troll by Zen, and uc cop isn't even in this match. Also, Kraione, going a bit hard for the spy team aren't we? How many times did you use the words "we townies" in your post? Investigation imminent!
Whoa whoa a bit eager, aren't we. Especially considering that didn't happen, more like, suspicion onto you! -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 22:35:46
Actually Ceru, that did happen (although Kraione didn't use those exact words, he pushed hard toward the villager team) and I'll prove myself honest soon enough ;) @Tentcell And what, pray tell, is the main problem at hand, Tentcell?
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 22:38:45
Ceru Seiyu wrote: Whoa whoa a bit eager, aren't we. Especially considering that didn't happen, more like, suspicion onto you!
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 23:08:28
Zen wrote: Please do not edit your post, double post your correction.
Sorry, I was just correcting my typo from 'especiallt' to 'especially' -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 23:11:50
Shihab wrote: Actually Ceru, that did happen (although Kraione didn't use those exact words, [B]he pushed hard toward the villager team[/B]) and I'll prove myself honest soon enough ;) @Tentcell And what, pray tell, is the main problem at hand, Tentcell?
When you say he pushed hard towards the villager team do you mean that Eriror is vouching for the townies? In the sense that you are getting the feeling that he is on the townies side? -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 23:28:05
Nah, supergirl, I mean the other way. He's tryin' to push the idea that he himself is a villager too hard, that's what I meant by "he's pushing...", which makes him immediately suspicious. A real villager (such as yourself and Ceru, I suspect) wouldn't emphasize (or even mention, as you've done) their status as a villager. It doesn't matter that much though lol, y'all readin' too much into it. It was just an observation to get the ball rollin' nothin' definite. We'll know soon enough of Kraione's identity, you can be sure of that ;)
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 23:33:01
I can see where you're getting at. It does seem to be evident though, that Eriror is implicitly stating that he is a townie. As indicated by the following:
Erirornal Kraione wrote: Implications of he new roles aside, this is gonna be ridiculously tough for us... If both the Cop and the Psychic are in this game there are 5 mafia, 2 independent players and only 7 townies. [B]We[/B] don't have a lot of leeway to make mistakes, guys. A couple of townies lynched and there will be no one left [B]of us[/B] :(
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Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 23:50:16
Shihab wrote: Actually Ceru, that did happen (although Kraione didn't use those exact words, he pushed hard toward the villager team) and I'll prove myself honest soon enough ;) @Tentcell And what, pray tell, is the main problem at hand, Tentcell?
You must be new, let me explain. There are these people that are bad. They are called "The Mafia". They are trying to kill us townies. As townies, we have to deduce who "The Mafia" is and lynch them before they kill us during the night cycle. Petty arguments was what I used last game to win as the mafia. I found the people who made a big deal out of small things and kept adding fuel to the fire. Last game I barely had to do anything as mafia because the players basically drove themselves into paranoia and avoided the little things that made me quite obvious to be mafia. We can't let this happen this game, because if the mafia has any brains this game will be over quite quickly. Don't ask stupid questions. -
Date: Tue, Apr 15 2014 23:53:36
Supergirl, compare Kraione's responses to your own, or Ceru's, (or even mine!). Neither you, nor Ceru, are pushing hard to be considered villagers implicitly or otherwise. Also, I don't consider his responses to be implicit in any way. Yeah, he doesn't go out of his way to be blunt, but as I keep sayin' he's pushin' his idea hard and that's explicit enough for me. I'm just not buyin' it, is all. (p.s you missed an "us" :)
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 00:00:12
Tentcell wrote: You must be new, let me explain. There are these people that are bad. They are called "The Mafia". They are trying to kill us townies. As townies, we have to deduce who "The Mafia" is and lynch them before they kill us during the night cycle. Petty arguments was what I used last game to win as the mafia. I found the people who made a big deal out of small things and kept adding fuel to the fire. Last game I barely had to do anything as mafia because the players basically drove themselves into paranoia and avoided the little things that made me quite obvious to be mafia. We can't let this happen this game, because if the mafia has any brains this game will be over quite quickly. Don't ask stupid questions.
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 00:05:09
Don't patronize me Tentcell, it's demeaning. I understand the rules quite well. I was merely making an observation which other people questioned and which I promptly defended. If you believe my comments are so "pointless" kindly point in the right direction and I will follow. Otherwise, stop denigrating people that are just trying to play the game. Finally, I don't hear you disagreeing with my accusation, simply berating me for bringing it up. So then, I can only presume you agree with my suspicions, (if not their timing).
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 01:41:58
@Shihab don't you think if Eriror was mafia he'd find a more subtle way to imply his innocence other than trumpeting "I'm town"?
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 01:53:08
@Shihab Nowhere in my statement did I address anything you said to anybody else, other than the question directed to me, I would recommend re-reading your posts and what you tag others in. You asked me what the main issue was. This is a game of mafia, the answer to that doesn't require an answer from me. I do think it's pretty cute that you asked me to change my attitude in a game, so I'll give you some cutie points for that. I neither disagree or agree with your accusation as everyone is clawing at threads at this point of the game.
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 03:17:33
You make me sad Tentcell. What I was referring to in my previous post was this:
You guys enjoy arguing over petty things? Completely ignoring the main problem at hand
Said in such a brusque way, I responded by asking you what you believed to be the main problem to which you replied:There are these people that are bad. They are called "The Mafia". They are trying to kill us townies. As townies, we have to deduce who "The Mafia" is and lynch them before they kill us during the night cycle.
...and:Don't ask stupid questions.
I never asked you the main point of the game, since I didn't know that was what you were referring to in your original post. In fact, it's because I didn't know what you were referring to, that I asked you a question. To which you replied with condescension and sarcasm. Obviously there is a misunderstanding here, or you woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. I choose to believe the former because I don't know you all that well. With all that said, I apologize for the misunderstanding. *offers hand* Lets shake on it and move on. Now then, perhaps we can actually start solving the "main problem" as you so poignantly put it. You remain neutral regarding Karione, which does nothing for either side. What then, do you propose? Whom do you suspect? And why? You say everyone is clawing at threads at "this point in the game", does this imply you want to wait and see? Although I agree with you that pointless discussion gets nowhere, so does no discussion at all. Finally, I don't know what "cutie points" are (and I'm not sure I even want to know) but they make cringe. Keep 'em. -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 03:24:08
Yay some guy said "we" twice in one post and you guys are arguing for like 2 pages worth of posts about it...
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 03:29:23
Also @Laugh, no I don't, its not the method by which he associated himself with the villagers - subtle or otherwise is unimportant. It's that he did so (right off the bat, mind you!) at all. A real villager would not need to justify himself/herself, until they were accused. Only the guilty find the impulse to justify their actions/character before they're caught. That said, I didn't say Karione was Mafia (never said that, in fact) just that he seemed suspicious. This, I hoped, would spur to action those with the power to confirm (or destroy) these suspicions. That's all. Here's what I think: Supergirl and Ceru and maybe yourself, are villagers. Tentcell is probably someone with power: most likely psychic, possibly doctor Karione is suspicious, maybe Mafia, maybe over-eager villager Doesn't matter what I consider myself, since anything I say will be read with suspicion. But let the records show that I say I am a cop.
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 03:51:04
I feel as if 11 hours into the first day is a horrible point to judge people off of, so as of now my ideas on what I think are irrelevant and would only cause confusion and anger. Will post my thoughts later in the round.
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 08:27:28
ShadowParadox wrote: Yay some guy said "we" twice in one post and you guys are arguing for like 2 pages worth of posts about it...
Yeah, let's get the ball rolling by voting random people to make a mess. [B]Vote: Solid[/B] Someone needs to start I guess, because if we don't stop arguing nobody will get lynched today. -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 09:13:16
cTreative_ wrote: Yeah, let's get the ball rolling by voting random people to make a mess. [B]Vote: Solid[/B] Someone needs to start I guess, because if we don't stop arguing nobody will get lynched today.
uh oh....u dont wanna do that....queue the rage... -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 09:16:34
ShadowParadox wrote: uh oh....u dont wanna do that....queue the rage...
I'm not mad, I want to have fun -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 09:21:04
cTreative_ wrote: I'm not mad, I want to have fun
ok b u t dont blame me for when @Supergirl goes bat shit crazy on you... -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 09:44:55
Supergirl wrote: We were very close to lynching fang xD But you did play pretty well.
Someone had to put his hand into the fire. Also, a fact we know for sure that Tencell isn't a mafia, he hasn't said he was. :P -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 09:56:44
sup guys, lets do better this time around. Shihab is acting just like shadowparadox from last game LOL but anyways... you never know with Eriror...he could be using "we" a lot to fool us lol
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 09:57:23
cTreative_ wrote: Yeah, let's get the ball rolling by voting random people to make a mess. [B]Vote: Solid[/B] Someone needs to start I guess, because if we don't stop arguing nobody will get lynched today.
Solid hasn't actually appeared yet, which is strange. Looks like a lurker so [B]Vote: Solid[/B] -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 10:37:29
Woah! U can't do that! Just because someone hasn't appeared doesn't mean we should just lunc them straight away! Solid might just be inactive or something
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 10:43:12
Solid wrote: yeahhh
He was here. -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 10:54:31
cTreative_ wrote: He was here.
You're eager to lynch people...déjà vu anyone? -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 10:55:10
Fuck wait I meant @Shihab not the other guy
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 10:56:56
Woops I slept a litle late today, 1pm x.x(love holidays), anyhow I'm here now.
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 10:58:30
Xzeria wrote: Woops I slept a litle late today, 1pm x.x(love holidays), anyhow I'm here now.
Yeah... Sleeping until 2pm. Thats why we love holidays! -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 11:17:23
Tentcell wrote: You must be new, let me explain. There are these people that are bad. They are called "The Mafia". They are trying to kill us townies. As townies, we have to deduce who "The Mafia" is and lynch them before they kill us during the night cycle. Petty arguments was what I used last game to win as the mafia. I found the people who made a big deal out of small things and kept adding fuel to the fire. Last game I barely had to do anything as mafia because the players basically drove themselves into paranoia and avoided the little things that made me quite obvious to be mafia. We can't let this happen this game, because if the mafia has any brains this game will be over quite quickly. Don't ask stupid questions.
Or are you just trying to use the last game as a cover to make you seem more innocent? You providing such an easy, good answer can also raise suspicion, not only that, you played very well last game so everything you say might be some kind of story to make us think you're not mafia agian. And allso you allways talk like everything would befit the townies. If I were mafia I'd try to to write something like this, which might raise suspicion about me. But I think what Tentcell said is good because it's right, but my intuition tells me it might be a litle too good to be true. I'll keep my eyes on you but I'll wait a litle with my lynch vote until I can hear your response to this. -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 12:05:21
@Zen How many votes do we need for a lynch?
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 12:14:55
Zen wrote: The undercover cop, has been nerfed, he must be lynched in order for any side to win, and he can [B]only announce one name everyday.[/B]
Does this mean that he [B]must[/B] announce one name everyday? Wouldn't that give his role away? -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 12:28:56
Supergirl wrote: @Zen How many votes do we need for a lynch?
If there is 14 players, then 8 I guess. -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 12:39:32
cTreative_ wrote: If there is 14 players, then 8 I guess.
That's going to be challenging, to convince 8 people to lynch the same person. -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 12:46:05
Supergirl wrote: That's going to be challenging, to convince 8 people to lynch the same person.
14 Players, 5 Mafia, 1 or more Psycho(s), Maybe an Undercover Cop. 14 - 5 - ~2 = ~7 Townies Yeah... Real challenging -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 13:03:49
Ceru Seiyu wrote: Solid hasn't actually appeared yet, which is strange. Looks like a lurker so [B]Vote: Solid[/B]
He has appeared... Why don't you vote to lynch Court34 if you want to lynch someone who is inactive? You just support my blind shot. That seems strange, don't you think so? -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 13:19:59
Xzeria wrote: Or are you just trying to use the last game as a cover to make you seem more innocent? You providing such an easy, good answer can also raise suspicion, not only that, you played very well last game so everything you say might be some kind of story to make us think you're not mafia agian. And allso you allways talk like everything would befit the townies. If I were mafia I'd try to to write something like this, which might raise suspicion about me. But I think what Tentcell said is good because it's right, but my intuition tells me it might be a litle too good to be true. I'll keep my eyes on you but I'll wait a litle with my lynch vote until I can hear your response to this.
If you want to vie me out then go ahead, I could really care less. Fuck, I'd even help you vote myself out if you got 7 votes and needed another. I actually am a townie this game so if you want you can lynch me, it would only hurt the cause. -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 13:27:45
Tentcell wrote: If you want to vie me out then go ahead, I could really care less. Fuck, I'd even help you vote myself out if you got 7 votes and needed another. I actually am a townie this game so if you want you can lynch me, it would only hurt the cause.
Huum, yes. Sorry for calling you out, I do agree with you about not talking much bs and getting to the point. But I am unsure of whom to vote for and I'm just trying to get some ideas who might be mafia. What do you think about court/solid? Are their inativity enough reason to vote? I'd like to get a few people along with me as to not waste the first day like last game. -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 13:38:19
Xzeria wrote: Huum, yes. Sorry for calling you out, I do agree with you about not talking much bs and getting to the point. But I am unsure of whom to vote for and I'm just trying to get some ideas who might be mafia. What do you think about court/solid? Are their inativity enough reason to vote? I'd like to get a few people along with me as to not waste the first day like last game.
They were inactive last game as well. Which lead me to vote for court, who turned out to not be mafia. Though, it can be different this game. -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 14:02:06
Turst me, I'm not mafia. Vote for me, but you'll lynch another townie.
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 14:15:41
cTreative_ wrote: He has appeared... Why don't you vote to lynch Court34 if you want to lynch someone who is inactive? You just support my blind shot. That seems strange, don't you think so?
I missed his post on the first page, though now looking at it it's not participating, just posting for the sake of posting. Other guy is just as bad but w/e they're about equal with lurking atm. -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 14:25:06
Ceru Seiyu wrote: I missed his post on the first page, though now looking at it it's not participating, just posting for the sake of posting. Other guy is just as bad but w/e they're about equal with lurking atm.
I'm Just saying i don't want to get lynched again and then i said i'm a townie. I Don't have any suspicions yet, but trust me, i'm not mafia. -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 15:06:05
The only thing that's sketching me out about those two is the lack of activity from Solid. Last game, even if they were pointless posts, he was still posting more than he is now.
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 16:15:03
@Supergirl it takes 8 to lynch. Majority in other words. Also the undercovercop does not have to, it says he [B]can[/B]. Obviously it is beneficial for the undercover cop to stay hidden.
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 16:53:16
Since there are 5 mafias, it is imperative to vote not on possibility, but based on actual, logical assumptions. If we vote the wrong person consecutively for 2 days, here's what will happen. After day 1 there will be 1 townie lynched, and 1 townie killed during the night. Meaning 12 players left, 7 votes for majority where 8 are townies (including psychic/undercover cop/cop/doctor etc) and 5 are mafias. We can still make a come back after this. But if, we lynch the wrong person again, this is what will happen after day 2. With another townie lynched and another townie killed there will be 10 players left, 6 votes for majority where 5 are townies (including psychic/undercover cop/cop/doctor etc) and 5 are mafias. In this case we can't make a come back since there are not even enough townies to make a majority vote against the mafias. Since the mafias will not vote one of their own. Not to mention, the psychic and undercover cop (if there is one) needs to also be lynched for the townies to win. Seems like this mafia's game format does not favor the townies at all.
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 16:56:34
So I would not recommend voting for Solid under the basis that he [B]might[/B] be mafia just because he is [B]inactive[/B]. Townies are only allowed to afford two mistakes, before it's game over for them.
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 17:57:54
I would suggest everyone to make sure to check this thread somewhere around 1-2 hours before the day ends and finalize your votes if you haven't already, changing your votes if necessary.
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 18:29:39
woah woah. voting? for me!! <3!! no but seriously since i wasnt on im ssuspicious?? really guys? you guys are rushing the game...
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 18:31:18
if you guys actually are stupid enough to vote me then the mafia will be sure to win. really guys? <3
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 18:37:38
Solid wrote: woah woah. voting? for me!! <3!! no but seriously since i wasnt on im ssuspicious?? really guys? you guys are rushing the game...
If we don't do anything, mafia will win. It's better than chatting about stupid stuff. -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 18:39:49
cTreative_ wrote: If we don't do anything, mafia will win. It's better than chatting about stupid stuff.
so you want to lynch me? a townie -_-. you guys are gonna lose due to the fact that i was inactive. geez -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 18:41:38
Solid wrote: so you want to lynch me? a townie -_-. you guys are gonna lose due to the fact that i was inactive. geez
I voted you not for inactivity, I voted you randomly. -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 18:43:55
cTreative_ wrote: I voted you not for inactivity, I voted you randomly.
oh. good job then. now us townies are going to lose pretty quickly if we are going to just randomly vote everyone. -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 18:45:09
Anyone else notice that @Supergirl said "them" when referring to the townies? Just saying
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 18:45:58
Solid wrote: oh. good job then. now us townies are going to lose pretty quickly if we are going to just randomly vote everyone.
Yeah, fun stuff -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 18:46:45
ShadowParadox wrote: Anyone else notice that @Supergirl said "them" when referring to the townies? Just saying
Which post? -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 18:47:35
@ShadowParadox i highly doubt that he is the mafia. just use of the wrong words. @cTeative_ okay. go ahead.
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 19:15:24
Bet I got your heard racing there eh? :P
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 19:24:59
ShadowParadox wrote: Bet I got your heard racing there eh? :P
Who are you talking to? Please quote next time or something. If you're talking to me, then no, my heart remains normal. -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 19:37:51
okay. im going out everyone so dont get worried and vote me out. okay??...
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 19:39:01
Solid wrote: okay. im going out everyone so dont get worried and vote me out. okay??...
Leaving so soon? -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 19:39:32
[QUOTE=Supergirl;280564 Townies are only allowed to afford two mistakes, before it's game over for them.[/QUOTE] I agree. We can't afford to just vote based on trivial little things. We still have forty hours... let's not lynch rashly.
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 19:40:15
Haha messed up the quote :P
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 19:48:39
Are u quitting?
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 19:55:29
no no it was patronizing. im going out to run erands and yeah.
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 19:55:46
I believe @Solid said he was leaving not quitting the game. As in going outside in the real world
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 19:56:00
im not leaving the game @ShadowParadox
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 19:59:17
Zen wrote: I believe @Solid said he was leaving not quitting the game. As in going outside in the real world
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 21:07:46
ShadowParadox;280574]Anyone else notice that @Supergirl said "them" when referring to the townies? Just saying[/QUOTE] I assume you are referring to this post? [QUOTE=Supergirl;280564]So I would not recommend voting for Solid under the basis that he [B]might[/B] be mafia just because he is [B]inactive[/B]. [B]Townies[/B] are only allowed to afford two mistakes, before it's game over for [B]them.[/B][/QUOTE] I used the word[B] them[/B] because I was already talking about townies in the third person sense. I also said [B]we[/B], when referring to townies in my other post. [QUOTE=Supergirl wrote: Since there are 5 mafias, it is imperative to vote not on possibility, but based on actual, logical assumptions. If [B]we[/B] vote the wrong person consecutively for 2 days, here's what will happen. After day 1 there will be 1 townie lynched, and 1 townie killed during the night. Meaning 12 players left, 7 votes for majority where 8 are townies (including psychic/undercover cop/cop/doctor etc) and 5 are mafias.[B] We [/B]can still make a come back after this. But if, [B]we[/B] lynch the wrong person again, this is what will happen after day 2. With another townie lynched and another townie killed there will be 10 players left, 6 votes for majority where 5 are townies (including psychic/undercover cop/cop/doctor etc) and 5 are mafias. In this case [B]we[/B] can't make a come back since there are not even enough townies to make a majority vote against the mafias. Since the mafias will not vote one of their own. Not to mention, the psychic and undercover cop (if there is one) needs to also be lynched for the townies to win. Seems like this mafia's game format does not favor the townies at all.
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 22:34:25
@cTreative_ .
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 22:41:54
Solid wrote: @cTreative_ .
I'm not entirely sure what you're saying. Are you saying that based on creative's vote for you that shadow is trying to get you off the hook and throw the lynch onto me? -
Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 23:02:07
yes. sorry im bad at typing. but you get the point. im not entirely sure thats what @ShadowParadox was trying to do.
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Date: Wed, Apr 16 2014 23:55:27
Solid wrote: yes. sorry im bad at typing. but you get the point. im not entirely sure thats what @ShadowParadox was trying to do.
Just like last game he thinks I'm mafia lmao. -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 01:57:08
hmm...I honestly don't know with shadowparadox, especially after last game lmao.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 02:01:18
jet wrote: hmm...I honestly don't know with shadowparadox, especially after last game lmao.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 02:29:31
I'm having suspicions about @cTreative_ . Don't know why, he's just giving me a bad vibe...
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 02:33:20
The way I see it he's getting straight to the point of the game. Knowing that it is better to go for a lynch he decides to do so. But to choose Solid randomly, is not logical. As I said before, if 2 townies get lynched, then the townies can't win. So making a wrong lynch through random basis is one step towards a loss.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 02:40:18
ShadowParadox wrote: ok b u t dont blame me for when @Supergirl goes bat shit crazy on you...
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 02:42:07
this game isnt going anywhere is it :/ we need some people to act more suspicious than @cTreative_ lol
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 02:43:16
Would help if eveyone would post more.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 02:44:31
@Supergirl agreed. yeah sorry about that lmao. i "was" inactive.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 02:48:08
Lets keep this simple. As it stands, our chance of a good lynch (Mafia or psychic) is less than half (5/14). The most important person right now is the psychic, because they hold all the cards. (Or UC cop, but since I've claimed to be a cop, there should be no UC cop since they can't coexist). What then does the psychic want? Self-preservation. Nothing more. To win, the psychic must simply survive at the end of the game. They know who the bad guys are by process of elimination, therefore they are valuable to the villagers. But they must also be killed in the end, hence the psychic must never be caught. He/she is skittish, like a deer. Who then, is the psychic? I've had my suspicions of Tentcell, his utter neutrality remains interesting. Creative, is also interesting, his random pattern suggests omniscience. Karione remains suspicious in my eyes, since he hasn't posted in a while; I think he is Mafia and I will investigate him this coming night. If I am dead tomorrow, well, then you know for a fact Karione is Mafia. If not, well, you will know either way :D. Shadowparadox, according to most of you, likes to randomly accuse people to start fires. He then hides in the shadows (no pun intended) and laughs at his arson. He too is mighty suspicious. Lets then, suppose, Shadow is counter-intel. Whoever he accuses, must then be innocent (he wouldn't bring the spotlight to a mafia this early after all). So who has he accused? Myself and Supergirl. He has not accused Karione however, in fact he tried to defend him by accusing me. Thus to me, Karione is suspicious as hell, as I said before I WILL investigate him. That said, we should lynch Shadow. Here are the reasons: 1. Suppose Karione is a Mafia, it makes sense Shadow defends him and attacks his accuser and that he tries to deflect to supergirl (who I pretty much believe 95% is villager or psychic) 2. Killing Shadow ends the arson and the bullshit that comes with it, whether he is or is not a Mafia 3. If he is Mafia, then this supports my Karione theory all the more and we get two birds for one kill 4. We should kill someone this round, because this is goddamn Mafia and not Parcheesi. 5. If Karione opposes this, be on guard and ready the pitchforks. So in conclusion, [B]vote: ShadowParadox[/B]
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 02:50:49
how many hours are left untill nightime?
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 02:51:37
look at the timer at the first post @Solid
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 02:54:42
@ShadowParadox he was the same way always starting shit but when we lynched him he was just a townie. i am not saying he isnt the mafia or saying he is but he is always this way. we cant afford mistakes this game. we should let it play out. but i, as a townie, refuse to hide in the shadows and wait out the game. (no pun intended lel)
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 02:58:00
Just a lynch count 2 votes for @Shihab) Time left http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20140418T1240&p0=%3A&msg=Mafia+Day+1&csz=1
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 03:16:53
I understand your concern Solid, what then would it take for you to believe? I haven't played with Shadow in the past so I don't know of his mannerisms but my suspicions are not completely groundless. This is what I offer. Lynch Shadow today, we will immediately know of his identity. Then, if he is Mafia (as I suspect) I will follow up by investigating Karione. Given the argument above, I think he too is Mafia. If Shadow is not Mafia, I will personally keep silent for three days(since anything I say no longer has credibility) and/or offer my head for lynching. Why do I this? Because otherwise we will not procure enough votes for anything and this discussion goes nowhere some sort of consequence is necessary to spur action. This is my deal, if we lynch anyone other than Shadow, then I will consider my input null and again keep silent for 3 days. This is the extent to which I believe in Shadow's guilt. Trust in me for this one day, and if I be wrong, I will suffer the consequences.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 03:36:05
very well than @Shihab [B]vote: shadowparadox[/B]
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 05:09:46
Woah! Why lynch me?!
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 05:20:52
@Shihab 's entire thing
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 08:56:44
If we are CONSTANTLY referring to the previous game then might I remind u that I was a townie. And this game is no different. I am a townie this game as well...so if you guys want to lynch a townie then go ahead but once again like last game we will lose. And secondly who have I randomly accused? I only said what I said before just to point out, I had never meant to put the blame onto anyone else.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 09:00:39
Shihab wrote:
If he's mafia, then why is he defending those people who were voted for no real reason? Mafia wants that stuff to happen. He defends them, because they all are mafia You may say Then why Solid votes for him? And why nobody defends him? I really don't think it's ShadowParadox. My suspicions go on other people...Spoiler
Lets keep this simple. As it stands, our chance of a good lynch (Mafia or psychic) is less than half (5/14). The most important person right now is the psychic, because they hold all the cards. (Or UC cop, but since I've claimed to be a cop, there should be no UC cop since they can't coexist). What then does the psychic want? Self-preservation. Nothing more. To win, the psychic must simply survive at the end of the game. They know who the bad guys are by process of elimination, therefore they are valuable to the villagers. But they must also be killed in the end, hence the psychic must never be caught. He/she is skittish, like a deer. Who then, is the psychic? I've had my suspicions of Tentcell, his utter neutrality remains interesting. Creative, is also interesting, his random pattern suggests omniscience. Karione remains suspicious in my eyes, since he hasn't posted in a while; I think he is Mafia and I will investigate him this coming night. If I am dead tomorrow, well, then you know for a fact Karione is Mafia. If not, well, you will know either way :D. Shadowparadox, according to most of you, likes to randomly accuse people to start fires. He then hides in the shadows (no pun intended) and laughs at his arson. He too is mighty suspicious. Lets then, suppose, Shadow is counter-intel. Whoever he accuses, must then be innocent (he wouldn't bring the spotlight to a mafia this early after all). So who has he accused? Myself and Supergirl. He has not accused Karione however, in fact he tried to defend him by accusing me. Thus to me, Karione is suspicious as hell, as I said before I WILL investigate him. That said, we should lynch Shadow. Here are the reasons: 1. Suppose Karione is a Mafia, it makes sense Shadow defends him and attacks his accuser and that he tries to deflect to supergirl (who I pretty much believe 95% is villager or psychic) 2. Killing Shadow ends the arson and the bullshit that comes with it, whether he is or is not a Mafia 3. If he is Mafia, then this supports my Karione theory all the more and we get two birds for one kill 4. We should kill someone this round, because this is goddamn Mafia and not Parcheesi. 5. If Karione opposes this, be on guard and ready the pitchforks. So in conclusion, [B]vote: ShadowParadox[/B] -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 09:11:11
ShadowParadox wrote: If we are CONSTANTLY referring to the previous game then might I remind u that I was a townie. And this game is no different. I am a townie this game as well...so if you guys want to lynch a townie then go ahead but once again like last game we will lose. And secondly who have I randomly accused? I only said what I said before just to point out, I had never meant to put the blame onto anyone else.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 12:15:50
@Shihab [B]vote: ShadowParadox[/B]
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 12:20:50
Chobi wrote: @Shihab [B]vote: ShadowParadox[/B]
For real? Im defending myself because this is my game life we are talking about and i dont want us to lose like last time to the mafia! If you were tried for lynching you would probably do the same as well -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 15:46:16
3 votes for @Ceru Seiyu
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 16:11:09
@ShadowParadox does it?
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 16:13:38
He never actually defends them, he argues over the validity of lynching people who were not even on. As for solid, you are correct, he may be Mafia as per your observation. But even if he is and especially if he is, distancing himself from shadow would be the smart thing to do at this point. If you were Mafia, you wouldn't try to defend the guy another person is literally risking their own life to accuse unless you yourself wanted to seem super suspicious. Instead you would distance yourself as much as possible from that guy. This is why no one is defending Shadow. This doesn't mean I think solid is Mafia, but even if he is, his actions only corroborate my argument, that Shadow IS, since Solid would know (if he were Mafia). Notice Creative, that even YOU don't go out of your way to defend Shadow (the post right after the one I've referred to testifies to that), hence I think you have your suspicions as well. What I am asking, is for everyone to trust me this one time. This is not just a shot in the dark. I really do think Shadow's actions have been suspicious and I know most of you do as well. This is a game of trust, trust me, and if it turns out I really am full of bullshit, well, I've already offered my head, I can do no more.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 16:13:52
Laugh wrote: @ShadowParadox does it?
Below every post there's a button "Reply with Quote". It makes a quote for you -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 16:22:57
[B]unvote: Solid[/B] Now let's get serious with our votes. Only 20 hours left until bad stuff happens.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 16:24:03
@Laugh, sorry could you quote supergirl and the others you claim to defend Errior? If I recall, supergirl agreed with my comments but remained ambivalent (perhaps he can clear this up himself). Finally, why Shadow? Well, if you read my original post, its not only because I suspect he's Mafia, but because he likes to start fires for no reason. He is a volatile element, villager or Mafia. His elimination would avoid a lot of headaches in the future, some of you have claimed he did this in a previous round and was a villager. As creative says, that was then and this is now. Regardless, he is a dangerous element, I like to deal in constants, not unknowns. Also, why not you? In fact, I do have my suspicions of you (I will investigate you sooner than later) but I don't think you are an immediate danger and I am not as sure of you as I am of Shadow. If I'm risking my neck, I'd like it to be over people I have absolute faith in their guilt (misguided or otherwise, die for something you at least believe in), not people I am semi-certain about.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 16:32:10
Shihab wrote:
If we lynch him and find out that he was a townie, then lynch you and find out the same... ...It's literally game over for us.Spoiler
@Laugh, sorry could you quote supergirl and the others you claim to defend Errior? If I recall, supergirl agreed with my comments but remained ambivalent (perhaps he can clear this up himself). Finally, why Shadow? Well, if you read my original post, its not only because I suspect he's Mafia, but because he likes to start fires for no reason. He is a volatile element, villager or Mafia. His elimination would avoid a lot of headaches in the future, some of you have claimed he did this in a previous round and was a villager. As creative says, that was then and this is now. Regardless, he is a dangerous element, I like to deal in constants, not unknowns. Also, why not you? In fact, I do have my suspicions of you (I will investigate you sooner than later) but I don't think you are an immediate danger and I am not as sure of you as I am of Shadow. If I'm risking my neck, I'd like it to be over people I have absolute faith in their guilt (misguided or otherwise, die for something you at least believe in), not people I am semi-certain about. -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 16:37:03
Shihab;280616]Lets keep this simple. As it stands, our chance of a good lynch (Mafia or psychic) is less than half (5/14).[/QUOTE] 6/14 If you include the psychic. 7/14 If you include, and there actually is one, the undercover cop. [QUOTE=Shihab;280616](Or UC cop, but since I've claimed to be a cop, there should be no UC cop since they can't coexist).[/QUOTE] Why can't a cop and undercover cop co-exist? I have not read this in the rules. Unless I have overlooked. [QUOTE=Shihab;280616]Karione remains suspicious in my eyes, since he hasn't posted in a while; I think he is Mafia and I will investigate him this coming night. If I am dead tomorrow, well, then you know for a fact Karione is Mafia. If not, well, you will know either way . [/QUOTE] Suspicious for pushing too hard to come off as a townie? I honestly don't see how Eriror in any way pushed too hard to come off as a townie. [B]Who else here thinks that Eriror pushed really hard to come off as a townie?[/B] First off, you accused Eriror for going hard towards the spy team by referring to himself as a townie. [QUOTE=Shihab;280472]Yeah, I'm thinkin' the undercover cop can't be killed by the mafia (assassinated I mean) since they don't have perfect information (i.e they don't know who is uc cop and who is mafia). Should be interesting...if its even in the game lol. Could just be a giant troll by Zen, and uc cop isn't even in this match. Also, Kraione, [B]going a bit hard for the spy team aren't we? [/B]How many times did you use the words [B]"we townies"[/B] in your post? Investigation imminent![/QUOTE] Here you also ask how many times he used the words "we townies" in post. The implied meaning here, being that Eriror really wants to come off as a townie. When in fact, Eriror never once used the exact words "we townies" in his post. And when I inquired you about it, you said that you wasn't being literal. [QUOTE=Shihab;280482]@Shihab not the other guy[/QUOTE] Is this what you are referring to? If not, please correct me and show me what exact post you are talking about when you say that Shadow has accused you. Here, I hardly see how Shadow has accused you of being mafia, he merely stated that you're eager to lynch people. How did you get from that to he is accusing you? [QUOTE=Shihab;280616]He has not accused Karione[/QUOTE] He also has not accused the 11 other players. [QUOTE=Shihab;280616]in fact he tried to defend him by accusing me.[/QUOTE] Don't see how he defended Eriror when he barely even accused you. [QUOTE=Shihab;280616]1. Suppose Karione is a Mafia, it makes sense Shadow defends him and attacks his accuser and that he tries to deflect to supergirl (who I pretty much believe 95% is villager or psychic)[/QUOTE] This is already wrong, since I have already identified how Shadow has not defended Eriror. Unless you can provide me the exact post where Shadow defends Eriror to make me think otherwise. Shadow attacks his accuser? The accuser being you? How did he attack you? He merely said that you were eager to lynch people. I hardly see that as an attack. Tries to deflect to Supergirl. Again how? Through accusing me? As stated before, I hardly think that he accused me. But rather stating a suspicion about me. [QUOTE=Shihab;280616]2. Killing Shadow ends the arson and the bullshit that comes with it, whether he is or is not a Mafia[/QUOTE] What bullshit has he said? [QUOTE=Shihab;280616]3. If he is Mafia, then this supports my Karione theory all the more and we get two birds for one kill[/QUOTE] If Shadow is mafia it doesn't entail that Eriror is also mafia. Shadow barely even defended Eriror. [QUOTE=Shihab;280616]2. Killing Shadow [B]ends the arson [/B]and the bullshit that comes with it, whether he is or is not a Mafia[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Shihab;280616]Shadowparadox, according to most of you, likes to randomly accuse people [B]to start fires.[/B][/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Shihab wrote: Creative, is also interesting, his random pattern [B]suggests omniscience[/B].
Please refrain from using metaphors or poetic writing. It creates ambiguity, and makes it unclear as to what you are exactly saying. Though, I understand how others may not have a problem with this. --------------------------------------------------- I would also like to add that I am not defending Shadow or Eriror. I am merely picking out and criticizing what Shihab is claiming. -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 16:37:45
I am a townie.... Don't waste this opportunity to lynch the real mafia on me...like many have said we only have 2 chances
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 16:42:17
ShadowParadox wrote: I am a townie.... Don't waste this opportunity to lynch the real mafia on me...like many have said [B]we only have 2 chances[/B]
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 16:46:40
Also, you can see how many posts a user has made with this link http://forum.upsb.info/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=16783 Fang you have made only one post thus far in the current 14 pages of posts. Why? Townies, you have no power but your voice. Let your voice be heard, how are you going to win by remaining silent? Please pitch in with your thoughts and opinions with the current accusations and votes. There isn't much time left for the rest of the day.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 16:47:11
@Shihab , can u quote any bs I have said? And please don't refer to the last game, that was the past
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 16:50:21
Supergirl wrote: Also, you can see how many posts a user has made with this link http://forum.upsb.info/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=16783
How I'm second? Too addicted to Mafia it seems... -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 16:58:20
Supergirl;280658] I would also like to add that I am not defending Shadow or Eriror. I am merely picking out and criticizing what Shihab is claiming.[/QUOTE] Sorry, I misinterpreted your writing earlier about defending him. @Shihab don't you think if Eriror was mafia he'd find a more subtle way to imply his innocence other than trumpeting "I'm town"?[/QUOTE] Okay let me see. [QUOTE=Shihab;280656] Finally, why Shadow? Well, if you read my original post, its not only because I suspect he's Mafia, but because he likes to start fires for no reason. He is a volatile element, villager or Mafia. His elimination would avoid a lot of headaches in the future, some of you have claimed he did this in a previous round and was a villager. As creative says, that was then and this is now. Regardless, he is a dangerous element, I like to deal in constants, not unknowns.[/QUOTE] Why again do you suspect Shadow as mafia? He has barely done anything of acclaim this round and personally, I don't think he's been "starting fires for no reason". If anyone is starting fires, it's you. One of your first posts was to pick on Eriror's using "we". Now you're going after Shadow for things he's done in the past. You like to deal with constants? What in this game is a constant? Unless you're the UC cop or a psychic, pretty much everything is an unknown. [QUOTE=Shihab wrote: Also, why not you? In fact, I do have my suspicions of you (I will investigate you sooner than later) but I don't think you are an immediate danger and I am not as sure of you as I am of Shadow. If I'm risking my neck, I'd like it to be over people I have absolute faith in their guilt (misguided or otherwise, die for something you at least believe in), not people I am semi-certain about.
Let me hear your suspicions of me. And please reiterate why you believe so wholeheartedly that Shadow should be lynched besides the fact that he was annoying the last time he played mafia. -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 17:00:10
STOP FUCKING REFERRING TO THE LAST GAME!!!!
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 17:04:11
ShadowParadox wrote: STOP FUCKING REFERRING TO THE LAST GAME!!!!
Sorry I was just trying to ask for more evidence. Shadow, what do you think of this game so far? -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 17:05:47
Laugh wrote: Sorry I was just trying to ask for more evidence. Shadow, what do you think of this game so far?
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 17:06:03
@Supergirl, I will just say this, although you claim Shadow does not attack or accuse anyone, (based on the quotes) to me they ARE accusations. There is no need to come right out and say "you are Mafia", and a Mafia (as I suspect and continue to suspect Shadow being) wouldn't do that because he would risk attention on himself. So those vague sounding "suspicions" of Shadow are to me, full-blown accusations and I stand by what I have said. Also, "he also hasn't accused the other 11 people", yes he hasn't. But I am going with what I know rather making wild speculations. Among those 11 is Karione, I have always suspected Karione, hence him being among those 11 makes him very suspicious. As for my "poetic" metaphors (I guess I'll take that as a compliment even if it wasn't), that's just the way I like to write, sorry. I didn't think I was being vague but I will stop if its bothering everyone that much. (Just thought, the game could use some flavor, is all). Finally, regardless of all this, what I have said stands. There are two situations as I can see it. I am right and I am wrong. If I am right, Shadow is Mafia, we lynch him and Errior becomes more suspicious. If I am wrong and we still lynch him we kill a villager, yes, but again, we eliminate a volatile element. (also, the "bullshit" I'm referring to is Shadow's constant accusations of random people, you may choose to compare him with me, but I have always kept my accusations to a select few, namely Shadow and Errior). There is also the situation where we do not lynch him regardless of whether I am right or wrong. In this case, I will simply consider my future input to be null, and will just stay silent for the next three days. Yes, this in an ultimatum (because if I really am cop as I claim then my input should be valuable in the future) but without this nothing happens; no one votes and since time is running out, villagers lose the advantage. If this really happens, the Mafia have no reason to kill me since I am not harming them (by keeping silent) and will remain hidden. Finally, no, UC cop is not definitely in the game. Only psychic is. Also yes, either UC Cop or Cop is in the game, not both (I've asked Zen about this to make sure, since those are the rules I know of, feel free to ask himself yourself). That said, there should definitely be at least 2 good guys (of which I am one) based on what I've said so far (if I'm cop, no uc cop). Its fine that you are dissecting my argument supergirl, it is in the spirit of the game. But we just don't have time now. Unless you are in favor of inaction, you must vote soon.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 17:07:50
ShadowParadox wrote: What about it?
10/10 The graphics served this game very well ... All Games -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 17:10:05
cTreative_ wrote: 10/10 The graphics served this game very well ... All Games
Graphics? Id say mediocre. Gameplay 10/10. :D -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 17:11:04
@Shihab you say Kairone has only 1 post so far? i see 7 on that board. but in issues about the post count fang has 1! a bit strange you havent mentioned him yet.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 17:17:26
@Laugh I do have my suspicions of you (for example, delaying this voting for Shadow business is an indirect defense of sorts, also you've begun to accuse me as well). But as I have said, they are unimportant at this stage of the game, as I really can't tell what you are. As for shadow, I am basing my argument on his behavior from previous games (based on you have said) but even beside that he has "started fires" in this game by accusing myself and supergirl, and not strongly either, which is suspicious also, since accusing someone outright, as I've already said, puts attention on yourself (just look at myself for evidence of that!) unwanted in the case of Mafia. Look, I'm tired of arguing and defending myself. You all know my terms, agree with them or don't agree with them. The consequences are there, so choose wisely. Also, when did I ever state how many posts Karione made? I just said he hasn't said anything SINCE I started accusing him (give or take like 2 posts he made after I stated my initial suspicions, he hasn't said anything at all so far, he'll turn up soon I suspect.)
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 17:24:02
Shihab wrote: @Laugh I do have my suspicions of you (for example, delaying this voting for Shadow business is an indirect defense of sorts, also you've begun to accuse me as well). But as I have said, they are unimportant at this stage of the game, as I really can't tell what you are. As for shadow, I am basing my argument on his behavior from previous games (based on you have said) but even beside that he has "started fires" in this game by accusing myself and supergirl, and not strongly either, which is suspicious also, since accusing someone outright, as I've already said, puts attention on yourself (just look at myself for evidence of that!) unwanted in the case of Mafia. Look, I'm tired of arguing and defending myself. You all know my terms, agree with them or don't agree with them. The consequences are there, so choose wisely. Also, when did I ever state how many posts Karione made? I just said he hasn't said anything SINCE I started accusing him (give or take like 2 posts he made after I stated my initial suspicions, he hasn't said anything at all so far, he'll turn up soon I suspect.)
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 17:36:34
Shihab;280668] I will just say this, although you claim Shadow does not attack or accuse anyone, (based on the quotes) to me they ARE accusations.[/QUOTE] No they are not accusation. I think a few people will agree with me on this. Pulling out a google definition, an accusation is a charge or claim that someone has done something illegal or wrong. Shadow has yet to accuse me or you, as stated in my rather large post. I think that you think it is an accusation because you think that there is a deeper meaning to what Shadow has said. I still don't see how. [QUOTE=Shihab;280668]If I am right, Shadow is Mafia, we lynch him and Errior becomes more suspicious.[/QUOTE] Again, you think Eriror becomes more suspicious because Shadow is defending him. [B]Please provide the exact quote where you believe that Shadow is defending Eriror. Since I have yet to find one.[/B] [QUOTE=Shihab;280668]If I am wrong and we still lynch him we kill a villager, yes, but again, we eliminate a volatile element.[/QUOTE] You think he is a volatile element because he is making accusations? They are not accusations. [B]Can everyone else tell us whether or not you think Shadow has made accusations towards me and Shihab based on the posts I provided on the previous page.[/B] @Chobi [QUOTE=Shihab;280668]In this case, I will simply consider my future input to be null, and will just stay silent for the next three days. [/QUOTE] You are going to stay silent? Why? [QUOTE=Shihab;280668]Yes, this in an ultimatum (because [B]if I really am cop as I claim then my input should be valuable in the future[/B]) but without this nothing happens; no one votes and since time is running out, villagers lose the advantage. [/QUOTE] You're making a rather strong stand that you are a cop. And since, if you are indeed a cop, you can investigate players and find out their role, you're information will become imperative to the game. Yet you choose to stay silent if we don't lynch Shadow? If you are a cop, you are on the townie side. If you are on the townie side you definitely do not want to remain silent. And to stay silent for the next three days! Two days of wrong voting is enough for the townies to lose. How do you plan on winning if you're going to remain silent? [QUOTE=Shihab wrote: Unless you are in favor of inaction, you must vote soon.
I am not in favor if inaction, I've been very active in during this day of mafia. And indeed I will vote soon. My problem that lies with you is why are you so in favor of lynching Shadow. You're pushing for a lynch incredibly hard, based on what you think are accusations. My second problem, is that it seems like you made a threat that you will remain silent if we don't lynch Shadow. This absolutely doesn't make sense. If you are indeed a cop, your information is imperative to win the game. As a cop you are also on the townie's side. It doesn't make sense to remain silent for the next three days, when all it takes is two bad days for you to lose. Your choice to remain silent is irrational, I don't see how you intend to win the game as a cop/townie if you will remain silent. I think I am going to vote for you. But I want to hear your response first. -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 18:36:56
@Supergirl, so be it. Like I said I won't debate any longer. Why I will choose keep silent however, is because it seems my words will be falling on deaf ears, hence whether I say something or don't doesn't change anything. If I can't get you all to trust me here, whats to say you even believe I am cop later on? It is a gamble of mine, and it is quite simple. If you lynch me now, you lose an ally, if you don't lynch Shadow, you lose an ally. I am being harsh NOW so that my words will have weight LATER. Trust goes both ways, if I can't trust you to believe in my words, then there is no reason for my input in the future. Lynching me doesn't really accomplish anything and risks quite a bit if I am in fact telling the truth. (Lynching the cop right off the bat is not a healthy option, I assure you). And if I am mafia, well, it would just be easier to check this information by lynching Shadow. If both shadow and I are mafia it wouldn't make sense to accuse him, if I am mafia and shadow is not then you will know immediately. If Shadow is mafia and I am not, you will know this immediately as well. I already get the feeling we will be going nowhere this day, so I'm just going to wait until tomorrow (as in day 2) and see the carnage. If you guys do decide to lynch me, bon chance to you. If not, and you do something else, I will at least give you the courtesy of revealing Errior's identity tomorrow (although given by how this is going, you won't believe me anyway) and then, I will keep silent. Yes, I do want the villagers to win, but what is the point of my input if it doesn't have any weight or impact? Silence, then, is better since at least I won't incur the wrath of the Mafia.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 18:46:27
While we are fighting here, others are hiding in the dark and laughting at us... Just sayin...
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 19:10:54
Shihab wrote: @Supergirl, so be it. Like I said I won't debate any longer. Why I will choose keep silent however, is because it seems my words will be falling on deaf ears, hence whether I say something or don't doesn't change anything. If I can't get you all to trust me here, whats to say you even believe I am cop later on? It is a gamble of mine, and it is quite simple. If you lynch me now, you lose an ally, if you don't lynch Shadow, you lose an ally. I am being harsh NOW so that my words will have weight LATER. Trust goes both ways, if I can't trust you to believe in my words, then there is no reason for my input in the future. Lynching me doesn't really accomplish anything and risks quite a bit if I am in fact telling the truth. (Lynching the cop right off the bat is not a healthy option, I assure you). And if I am mafia, well, it would just be easier to check this information by lynching Shadow. If both shadow and I are mafia it wouldn't make sense to accuse him, if I am mafia and shadow is not then you will know immediately. If Shadow is mafia and I am not, you will know this immediately as well. I already get the feeling we will be going nowhere this day, so I'm just going to wait until tomorrow (as in day 2) and see the carnage. If you guys do decide to lynch me, bon chance to you. If not, and you do something else, I will at least give you the courtesy of revealing Errior's identity tomorrow (although given by how this is going, you won't believe me anyway) and then, I will keep silent. Yes, I do want the villagers to win, but what is the point of my input if it doesn't have any weight or impact? Silence, then, is better since at least I won't incur the wrath of the Mafia.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 19:14:31
I would just like to point out, that Supergirl has been defending ShadowParadox this whole entire time (obviously). Now he could be swaying people from voting for him as I did last game with fang, or he could truly be a townie and truly believe that shadow isn't a member of the mafia. I really don't think that Shadow is a member of the mafia. It would be downright stupid for Supergirl to defend him when there are now 5 mafia members, it would put a huge target on his back. Now shadow is acting very similar to how he did last game, which is very similar to how I would've acted when I was 13, and how many of you would have too because at that age everyone had their immature tendancies. I truly don't think he's mastered the art of bluffing either at his lack of play time as well. So with that said I will not be voting for shadow this round, I'm still thinking about voting solid though.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 19:15:42
[B]Vote: Shihab[/B] Way too many faults on my perspective.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 19:19:59
Tentcell wrote: I would just like to point out, that Supergirl has been defending ShadowParadox this whole entire time (obviously). Now he could be swaying people from voting for him as I did last game with fang, or he could truly be a townie and truly believe that shadow isn't a member of the mafia. I really don't think that Shadow is a member of the mafia. It would be downright stupid for Supergirl to defend him when there are now 5 mafia members, it would put a huge target on his back. Now shadow is acting very similar to how he did last game, which is very similar to how I would've acted when I was 13, and how many of you would have too because at that age everyone had their immature tendancies. I truly don't think he's mastered the art of bluffing either at his lack of play time as well. So with that said I will not be voting for shadow this round, I'm still thinking about voting solid though.
Wtf?!?! Can we all stop with the fucking age discimination! Dafuq does that have to do with this?! @Zen these people have no right to discriminate me about my age! And if I have to type "STOP FUCKING REFERRING TO THE LAST GAME!!!!" One more time.... -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 19:20:43
Tentcell wrote: I would just like to point out, that Supergirl has been defending ShadowParadox this whole entire time (obviously). Now he could be swaying people from voting for him as I did last game with fang, or he could truly be a townie and truly believe that shadow isn't a member of the mafia. I really don't think that Shadow is a member of the mafia. It would be downright stupid for Supergirl to defend him when there are now 5 mafia members, it would put a huge target on his back. Now shadow is acting very similar to how he did last game, which is very similar to how I would've acted when I was 13, and how many of you would have too because at that age everyone had their immature tendancies. I truly don't think he's mastered the art of bluffing either at his lack of play time as well. So with that said I will not be voting for shadow this round, I'm still thinking about voting solid though.
I am not defending Shadow. I am picking out, and criticizing the claims that Shihab is making. I assume you have read what Shihab has posted right? Does it make sense to call what Shadow has said to be accusations? -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 19:23:42
@Tentcell Does it also make sense to latch onto to these non-accusations and so strongly go against not lynching Shadow?
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 19:28:55
Supergirl wrote: I am not defending Shadow. I am picking out, and criticizing the claims that Shihab is making.
You're defending him, whether it's intentionally or not, you're doing it. But nonetheless, I am in agreement with you. And Shadow, I'm not trying to be mean or "discriminate" against you due to your age, I'm just stating the facts, younger people are less mature. -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 19:36:36
Tentcell wrote: You're defending him, whether it's intentionally or not, you're doing it. But nonetheless, I am in agreement with you. And Shadow, I'm not trying to be mean or "discriminate" against you due to your age, I'm just stating the facts, younger people are less mature.
Perhaps me criticizing Shihab does make it seem as though I am defending Shadow. But I am not defending Shadow. Through criticizing the claims, the result becomes as though I am defending Shadow. Regardless, [B]at this moment in time[/B] I have no reason to believe that Shadow is mafia. Making a wrong lynch is not an option. One mistake is halfway to a loss as a townie. -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 19:44:35
Alright, i had enough of this. Normally the host is not part of the game but feel there is a need now to interfere. First of all @fang are you dead? Come on and talk! That is all i have to say, remember that the ONLY power of the Townie is to vote. /end rant
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 19:48:26
Shihab;280677]If I can't get you all to trust me here, whats to say you even believe [B]I am cop later on[/B]? It is a gamble of mine, and it is quite simple.[/QUOTE] Why should we even believe that you are a cop now? You're gamble to is make people believe that you are a cop when we have no reason to believe that you are. [QUOTE=Shihab;280677]If you lynch me now, you lose an ally, if you don't lynch Shadow, you lose an ally. I am being harsh NOW so that my words will have weight LATER.[/QUOTE] You call yourself an ally, yet you seem to threaten us that you will remain silent if we don't lynch Shadow. How can you expect us to trust you to be a [B]true[/B] ally if you do this? [QUOTE=Shihab;280677](Lynching the cop right off the bat is not a healthy option, I assure you).[/QUOTE] It is indeed not healthy. But first off, we have no reason to believe that you are a cop. Second of all, it seems as though you are now pressing the nuclear button since not many people agree with you. You throw away all reason, and choose to stay silent if we don't lynch Shadow. Like I said before, this is irrational and I don't see how you intend to win by staying silent. If you're going to stay silent, what use are you? You don't even want to win the game anymore. Unless. And this is a big unless. Oh yes, I've worked it out. You choose to stay silent if we don't lynch Shadow. This is irrational and you will lose. This would be the case if you are a cop. It doesn't make sense to play irrationally. Why would you choose the path of losing? Well, now I don't believe you are choosing the path to losing by remaining silent. You are choosing the path to win by remaining silent. Because you are mafia. You've so strongly held onto the claim that you are a cop, so when you're silent, you hope that the townies will continue to believe that you are a cop. And you also said: [QUOTE=Shihab wrote: Silence, then, is better since at least I won't incur the wrath of the Mafia.
You won't incur the wrath of the mafia anyways, since you are mafia. And that's how you plan to win. That very fact that you would go to such an extreme (that extreme being choosing the losing path), tells me that you are not a cop or a townie. You're choice to remain silent seem irrational and I don't see how you intend to win as a cop by staying silent. But in fact, you are not being irrational, it is only irrational to remain silent if you are a cop. It is not irrational, if your role is in fact a mafia. If I am indeed right, I am probably a huge target for the mafias right now. I see where the plan to remain silent for [B]three[/B] days comes from now. Because you have read my post that it only takes two days of wrong lynching for the townies to lose. By factoring in the fact that the townies may lynch a mafia you decided to remain silent for specifically [B]three[/B] days My dear townies, heed my words. I am putting myself at risk by revealing Shihab, by doing so I hope you can believe that I am a townie. I put myself at risk because I can't keep this a secret from my fellow townies, I want us to win. Does anyone oppose to my reasoning? Well, whatever the case, I'm convinced Shihab is a mafia. [B]Vote: Shihab[/B] -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 19:57:19
2 votes for Shihab 3 votes for ShadowParadox 1 vote for Solid
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 20:16:42
Im actually 14...
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 20:19:18
@ShadowParadox what do you think of my reasoning? Is it enough to convince you to vote for the one that has accused you?
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 20:21:53
I'm going to give my final vote tommorow if I will wake up that early, because today I'm not so sure what to vote for. Probably Shihab...
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 21:11:54
why has everyone all of a sudden decided to vote @ShadowParadox ? working together? possibly. [B]unvote: Shadowparadox[/B] [B]vote: supergirl[/B]
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 21:19:35
think about it. if @Supergirl is correct.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 21:35:28
[B] Vote: Shihab[/B] Not to act as a "Yes man" but I agree with most of what supergirl has said this far, though if shihab isn't mafia, my suspicion will head directly to supergirl.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 21:47:36
[QUOTE=Solid;280698]why has everyone all of a sudden decided to vote @Solid ? Any questions? Anything you don't understand from my explanation? Also, please definitely reply to the questions that I have specified.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 21:55:06
Tentcell wrote: [B] Vote: Shihab[/B] Not to act as a "Yes man" but I agree with most of what supergirl has said this far, though if shihab isn't mafia, my suspicion will head directly to supergirl.
Please explain why your suspicion will head directly to me if I'm wrong. If I am wrong, that doesn't entail that I am mafia. Since after all, I assume you agree with what I say because it is sound and rational. A sound and rational argument can be wrong. But I don't see how that makes me a mafia. I've been waiting for someone to give me a reason to believe that they are mafia, and I believe that I have found it. I've been following up on things people have said. Breaking down their entire argument bit by bit, my claims are rational. Regardless, if I am wrong and you do suspect me, then I can only tell you that I am not mafia. But if I am right, I hope this proves that I am on the townies side. -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 22:08:41
Solid wrote: why has everyone all of a sudden decided to vote @ShadowParadox ? working together? possibly. [B]unvote: Shadowparadox[/B] [B]vote: supergirl[/B]
As for your last point. No. I am not working together for ShadowParadox. I am [B]not[/B] defending him. Here's is what I am doing. Shihab has made claims. I read his claims and stated that they are false claims. This is what I done. I was criticizing his claims, that's all. But a few seem to have jumped the gun and immediately think that because of me pointing out Shihab's false claims that it entails that I am defending Shadow. Which is not the case. It seems as though I am defending Shadow because by refuting Shihab's claims the by-product is that it appears as though I am defending Shadow. I can not stress this enough, since a few people are not getting this idea in their head. Once again I am not defending Shadow. This may seem as though I am being defensive. But I am not. Since if you've read my explanation as to why I am not defending Shadow you can see the rationality of it. I am merely [B]pointing out the false claims[/B] that Shihab is making. The [B]by-product[/B] of pointing out these false claims is that people [B]think[/B] that I am defending Shadow. -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 22:10:41
I am not working together [B]with[/B] ShadowParadox.* Correcting grammatical error for my above post. Switching the word "[B]for[/B]" with "[B]with[/B]".
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 22:22:56
@Supergirl i understand your reasoning but i am sticking with my gut choice of voting you for the reasons i explained in my last post.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 22:23:48
Solid wrote: @Supergirl i understand your reasoning but i am sticking with my gut choice of voting you for the reasons i explained in my last post.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 22:37:47
@Supergirl the things shadow said were not accusations. and the reasons for lynching shadow were not valid or a good idea.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 22:41:08
Solid wrote: @Supergirl the things shadow said were not accusations. and the reasons for lynching shadow were not valid or a good idea.
Glad you think so too. Then let me try and understand what you're thinking then. First off, you said that Shihab made good and valid reasons. But now you have changed your mind. Does this mean that you disagree with the claims that Shihabs has made now? And do you agree with my line of reasoning? -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 22:45:27
To clarify. By "my line of reasoning", I mean my reasons for thinking that Shihab is mafia. And the reasons why I am not defending Shadow.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 22:59:40
Glad to see this is finally heading somewhere (we have less than 14 hours, those that are inactive, please vote!). As I said before, I won't argue anymore. Let it be. I will say this, I really think the villagers will win this one. Mafia beware, when the cards are dealt, the villagers will be the one with the aces (I know supergirl doesn't like metaphors, but I couldn't resist :D ). @whomever is suspicious of supergirl (I think it was Tentcell) I still think he is villager (with 95% confidence); don't waste your time on him. Of course you have no reason to believe me (but you might soon ;) ) Bon chance people, the clock is ticking.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 23:13:05
As of the time of this post there are 13 hours and 27 minutes left for the day. As Shihab said, we don't have much time, and as Zen stated, time is of the essence. Please cast your votes. And remember, making one wrong lynch is already halfway to losing for townies. Making another wrong lynch and it's over for the townies. Make your votes wisely. @Chobi
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 23:35:04
half of us are inactive so whats the point of trying to rally up the townies :/ . okay there are 5 mafia. the people who seem suspicious to me this game are @jet .
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 23:39:27
Erirornal Kraione Posts 6 Laugh Posts 5 Ceru Seiyu Posts 4 Court34 Posts 4 Xzeria Posts 2 jet Posts 2 Chobi Posts 1 fang where are you guys!!!
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 23:42:30
@Solid Reply to my post please.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 23:43:57
Solid wrote: half of us are inactive so whats the point of trying to rally up the townies :/ . okay there are 5 mafia. the people who seem suspicious to me this game are @jet .
Rally everyone up because you need 8 votes for a lynch. In previous games and in this one, it has been established that it is beneficial for townies to vote for a lynch on the first day, and to also lynch on all days. -
Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 23:44:41
[QUOTE=Supergirl;280696]@ShadowParadox Reply to this please.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 23:52:45
@ShadowParadox but i do not find shadow to AS suspicious as you.
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Date: Thu, Apr 17 2014 23:59:38
Solid;280719]@Supergirl the things shadow said were not accusations. and the [B]reasons for lynching shadow were not valid or a good idea[/B].[/QUOTE] So first off, you claimed that Shihab made good valid reasons. Then I tell you why they are not good valid reasons. And you agree with me. But now you say that Shihab has good reasons? Make up your mind. What is your actual opinion? And you still haven't replied to my question. Specifically, the part in bold. [QUOTE=Supergirl;280709]Glad you think so too. Then let me try and understand what you're thinking then. First off, you said that Shihab made good and valid reasons. But now you have changed your mind. Does this mean that you disagree with the claims that Shihabs has made now? [B]And do you agree with my line of reasoning?[/B][/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Supergirl wrote: To clarify. [B]By "my line of reasoning", I mean my reasons for thinking that Shihab is mafia. And the reasons why I am not defending Shadow.[/B]
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 00:02:07
I voted, don't know why I continue to get tagged in this.
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 00:03:53
Tentcell wrote: I voted, don't know why I continue to get tagged in this.
Sorry. I copy and pasted Zen's first post which has the mentions of all the players. To make it easier and faster for me, rather than typing it all. But yes, you have voted, sorry for mentioning you again. -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 00:15:07
@Supergirl i do not believe your reasoning i do not believe that shihab is the mafia at all but i do believe you are not backing up shadowparadox. so in a way yes and no.
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 00:30:23
@Solid Ok, if that's what you believe after all my explanation then so be it. But you forgot to respond to one thing. You're contradiction. Do you think that Shihab's reasons for lynching Shadow are good and valid? Please give me a final opinion. You seem to be changing your mind a lot. I'm going to sleep now, so I'll say this in advance. I have already given reasons as to why Shihabs reasons are not good or valid. Which you have agreed. Since this is the case, don't you find it odd that Shihab is so strongly opposed to not lynching Shadow when his reasons are based on false accusations? And to even go to the extreme of threatening to keep silent. I'm going to stop there since I've already explained my reasons many times in depth already. But you seem to not get it. You don't point out exactly which parts of my explanation that you do or do not agree with. I'm starting to think that you didn't really pay attention when reading my explanation. I strongly advise you to re read all my explanations thus far before making your final vote. Remember, you can always change your vote.
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 00:58:53
[B]Guys, hold the fuck up, we can make ourselves a winnable situation either way.[/B] Aside from picking apart speech, we MUST just pay attention to some facts. If shadowparadox is Mafia, then ShiHab is a cop because he called it. ShiHab CANNOT be Mafia because if he makes ONE bad call we can lynch him. If shadowparadox turns out to be a Townie, ShiHab is MAFIA, so we LYNCH HIM and eliminate a mafia, giving us another chance. Lynch Shadow, and THE RESULT will determine what we do next. ShiHab better be right else he's next. [B]UNVOTE: Solid VOTE: SHADOWPARADOX[/B]
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 01:47:06
@shadow paradox. which pretty much sums up that supergirl and shadow are mafia and that shihab is a cop. (sorry if i made mistake. all my "suspicions")
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 02:00:10
[B]VOTE: SHADOWPARADOX[/B] not sure about the supergirl theory yet but we'll see
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 02:53:33
5 votes for @Tentcell) Time left http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20140418T1240&p0=%3A&msg=Mafia+Day+1&csz=1
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 03:02:37
@ShadowParadox
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 03:21:38
I agree with @Supergirl regarding Shihab's silence ultimatum. It is just wrong. [B]Vote: Shihab[/B]
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 04:39:15
@Zen are the votes reset each day otherwise im fucked
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 05:18:08
ShadowParadox wrote: @Zen are the votes reset each day otherwise im fucked
Yeah,they're reset each day, but the same people can vote for you the following days. -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 05:40:32
Ceru Seiyu wrote: Lynch Shadow, and THE RESULT will determine what we do next. ShiHab better be right else he's next.
This logic would be thw townies' downfall. We can't afford to lynch someone just to see what will happen in the aftermath, the mafia's sheer numbers will be overpowering. I might unvote soon, @Shihab's 3 days of silence. Let's see how the rest unfold in the next few hours. -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 05:43:15
ooo just read all of that back there and I may also switch @Chobi that would make 8 and a lynch
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 07:45:04
Ceru Seiyu wrote: If shadowparadox is Mafia, then ShiHab is a cop because he called it. [B]UNVOTE: Solid VOTE: SHADOWPARADOX[/B]
A cop can investigate only 1 person and only at night, right? So if ShiHab is a cop then he hasn't had a chance to investigate someone and doesn't know really if ShadowParadox is mafia or not. -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 08:03:02
cTreative_;280747]A cop can investigate only 1 person and only at night, right? So if ShiHab is a cop then he hasn't had a chance to investigate someone and doesn't know really if ShadowParadox is mafia or not.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Zen wrote: The Undercover cop has no power other than the fact that [B]he knows all of the roles[/B]
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 08:09:14
The undercover cop is not on our side, he has his own side ant to win he needs to stay alive.
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 08:32:43
[B]VOTE: SHADOWPARADOX [/B] It seems that being inactive makes you suspicious. I simply didn't had time to reply. Sorry for that!
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 08:42:34
fang wrote: [B]VOTE: SHADOWPARADOX [/B] It seems that being inactive makes you suspicious. I simply didn't had time to reply. Sorry for that!
Why?! -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 08:43:08
An I mean the vote
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 10:18:03
Ceru Seiyu wrote: [B]Guys, hold the fuck up, we can make ourselves a winnable situation either way.[/B] Aside from picking apart speech, we MUST just pay attention to some facts. If shadowparadox is Mafia, then ShiHab is a cop because he called it. ShiHab CANNOT be Mafia because if he makes ONE bad call we can lynch him. If shadowparadox turns out to be a Townie, ShiHab is MAFIA, so we LYNCH HIM and eliminate a mafia, giving us another chance. Lynch Shadow, and THE RESULT will determine what we do next. ShiHab better be right else he's next. [B]UNVOTE: Solid VOTE: SHADOWPARADOX[/B]
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 10:23:01
Solid wrote: @shadow paradox. which pretty much sums up that supergirl and shadow are mafia and that shihab is a cop. (sorry if i made mistake. all my "suspicions")
No. The mafia doesn't have no lynch the cop during to day. You're confusing it with the undercover cop. And I don't understand how you reached the conclusion that me and shadow are mafia and shihab is a cop. Again, it sounds like you haven't been paying attention to my explanation. And oh look. You didn't even bother to reply to my post. -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 10:25:25
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 10:28:09
fang wrote: [B]VOTE: SHADOWPARADOX [/B] It seems that being inactive makes you suspicious. I simply didn't had time to reply. Sorry for that!
Explain your vote. Shihab's reason for lynching Shadow are wrong and invalid. Whereas I have provided rational explanation about Shihab being mafia. -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 10:55:09
jet wrote: [B]VOTE: SHADOWPARADOX[/B] not sure about the supergirl theory yet but we'll see
What are you not sure about, I can attempt to explain more. The most important part is the oddness of the extreme to stay silent for three days if we don't lynch Shadow. As a cop, who is on the townies side the cop's information are imperative for the townies to win. To choose silence will mean no one will lead the townies for a good and true lynch. Since the cop can find out someone's role by investigating them at night. But to keep silent will mean that the townies are more likely to made a bad lynch through wrong judgement. If Shihab is a cop doesn't this seem to be irrational? Even if we don,'t lynch Shadow, big woop. Why threaten us that he will keep silent for for three days? This is absurd behaviour. To keep silent doesn't benefit the townies. The cop is the townies side. This is irrational. Since to keep silent for three days, Shihab doesn't intend to win. It only takes two wrong days of lynching for townies to lose. So, as a cop it would irrational to keep silent, as this means admitting defeat. So why play irrationally? If he is a cop what does he accomplish from keeping silent? Nothing he loses. But this is where it gets interesting. It is only irrational if he is a cop. To keep silent would be rational if he is mafia. And for reasons I've already explained. I'm repeating myself a lot. So please re read my in depth explanations that I've already posted. [B]I urge you all to do the same.[/B] It is imperative to get the right lynch for us townies to win. [B]Remember this. Shihab provides invalid reason for lynching Shadow. He threatens to keep silent which is irrational if he is indeed a cop, as he would lose. But it's not irrational because he is mafia. Whereas I have criticised Shiabs argument by breaking it down bit by bit. Proving evidence for why they are false. And when I asked for the exact post for why shihab thinks that shadow is defending eriror, he failed to provide me with such. And my reasoning thus far has been analytical and no less than rational.[/B] And don't you find it weird that Shihab is not saying anything with regards to my accusations? He doesn't want to say anything more, in case it gives me even more reasons to believe why he is mafia. [B]We only have a couple of hours left. I urge you all to think more wisely.[/B] -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 11:00:05
Supergirl wrote:
They don't understand, because thay don't want to, they will do their best to save him...Spoiler
What are you not sure about, I can attempt to explain more. The most important part is the oddness of the extreme to stay silent for three days if we don't lynch Shadow. As a cop, who is on the townies side the cop's information are imperative for the townies to win. To choose silence will mean no one will lead the townies for a good and true lynch. Since the cop can find out someone's role by investigating them at night. But to keep silent will mean that the townies are more likely to made a bad lynch through wrong judgement. If Shihab is a cop doesn't this seem to be irrational? Even if we don,'t lynch Shadow, big woop. Why threaten us that he will keep silent for for three days? This is absurd behaviour. To keep silent doesn't benefit the townies. The cop is the townies side. This is irrational. Since to keep silent for three days, Shihab doesn't intend to win. It only takes two wrong days of lynching for townies to lose. So, as a cop it would irrational to keep silent, as this means admitting defeat. So why play irrationally? If he is a cop what does he accomplish from keeping silent? Nothing he loses. But this is where it gets interesting. It is only irrational if he is a cop. To keep silent would be rational if he is mafia. And for reasons I've already explained. I'm repeating myself a lot. So please re read my in depth explanations that I've already posted. [B]I urge you all to do the same.[/B] It is imperative to get the right lynch for us townies to win. [B]Remember this. Shihab provides invalid reason for lynching Shadow. He threatens to keep silent which is irrational if he is indeed a cop, as he would lose. But it's not irrational because he is mafia. Whereas I have criticised Shiabs argument by breaking it down bit by bit. Proving evidence for why they are false. And when I asked for the exact post for why shihab thinks that shadow is defending eriror, he failed to provide me with such. And my reasoning thus far has been analytical and no less than rational.[/B] And don't you find it weird that Shihab is not saying anything with regards to my accusations? He doesn't want to say anything more, in case it gives me even more reasons to believe why he is mafia. [B]We only have a couple of hours left. I urge you all to think more wisely.[/B] -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 11:00:51
Argh so many typos. Oh well hope the typos don't cause confusion' since I can't edit my posts.
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 11:02:16
cTreative_ wrote: They don't understand, because thay don't want to, they will do their best to save him...
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 11:07:22
@jet
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 11:50:50
@Xzeria any input? And make your vote please.
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 11:54:08
Ahh yes, I'm gonna make a last minute vote.
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 11:55:44
Well 46 minutes left. I don't think all the players are online. The lack of rational discussion is the pitfall for all of us. But maybe it is just that I'm more into the game than the others, and that I have far too much time on my hands. This day may end up with no lynch.
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 11:57:42
Vote count? @Zen
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:10:37
Well @Supergirl I agree with you about Shihab, lack of evidence for lynching/and or accusing Shadow, but fact still remains we need a lynch for information. And even more we need to have 8people vote for the same person... Do you wanna gamble on shadow being mafia or should we try to get another person lynched and risking getting none? Guess it's ok if we miss one day, it'll put more pressure on us the second day to really get a mafia lynched..
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:10:49
@Zen I still don't fully understand the role of the undercover cop. Why does the townie need to lynch him to win? The cop is working undercover for the benefit of the townies. And wouldn't the undercover cop be disguised as a mafia? After all, he is working [B]undercover.[/B] And when you say that the mafia must lynch the undercover cop during the day, is Eriror right in the matter that the mafias can't kill the undercover cop at night? What if they choose to kill a player but he turns out to be the undercover cop? Will you, Zen, tell the mafias to choose to kill someone else? And then the mafias, with that information will try to lynch the undercover cop during the day? The role description you provided doesn't seem to match what an actual undercover cop is.
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:15:27
@Supergirl I think it works like this, I read up a few rules on the internets. You know the rule that mafia can't assasinate of of their own? The Undercover Cop would then be a normal mafia for the other mafia? And because of that they can't assasinate him? I'm not sure about this, we might not have the same rules, it seems logical though.
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:22:46
Xzeria wrote: Well @Supergirl I agree with you about Shihab, lack of evidence for lynching/and or accusing Shadow, but fact still remains we need a lynch for information. And even more we need to have 8people vote for the same person... Do you wanna gamble on shadow being mafia or should we try to get another person lynched and risking getting none? Guess it's ok if we miss one day, it'll put more pressure on us the second day to really get a mafia lynched..
Glad that you agree too. And yes we do in fact need a lynch. At this rate, with about 20 minutes left, even if I change my vote to Shadow (which I won't) I don't think we'll get enough votes because of the time constraint. To clarify. I have not been defending Shadow, and he can still be mafia. But I have no reason to believe that he is mafia. Nor do I have reason to believe that he is a townie. I don't think we should gamble on lynching Shadow for information. One gameble is too far. If we get it wrong, you know what. Halfway already to defeat. One more wrong lynch and us townies lose. I hold my ground very strongly that Shihab is mafia. For reasons I have already explained which are logical and rational. It's okay-ish to miss one day of voting. But then the day would be wasted. One townie will be dead and no information will be gained. We should not waste a day of lynching. -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:23:48
Xzeria wrote: @Supergirl I think it works like this, I read up a few rules on the internets. You know the rule that mafia can't assasinate of of their own? [B]The Undercover Cop would then be a normal mafia for the other mafia?[/B] And because of that they can't assasinate him? I'm not sure about this, we might not have the same rules, it seems logical though.
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:27:28
@Zen just get rid if the idea of an uc, too confusing
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:30:14
Scince the undercover cops job is get the Mafia lynched because he knows who they are, someone "cough" Shihab "cough" has been accusing someone (shadow) for being mafia without any solid evidence, does this mean that shihab would be an undercover cop? So that would mean if we lynch shadow and he is mafia we would automatically know that shihab is an undercover cop, and by the way shihab has been trying to get shadow lynched for quite a while I belive this could be true. I'm on to lynching shadow and IF he is a mafia I'd like to get a majority on lynching Shihab the next day. This would be a very good tactic because we need to have both the undercover cop and the mafia dead for us to win. If it works out we'd both kill a mafia and secure another lynch on shihab. [B]Sorry bud.. ; (( Vote: ShadowParadox[/B]
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:31:35
--> Because of the way Shihab has been accusing SP I must assume that he is an undercover cop and that SP is mafia.
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:32:34
Wait...how many votes do I have?...
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:32:57
We need a lynch and I think this might be our only way of getting information, @Supergirl please vote for shadow, if he isn't mafia go a head a vote for me because I would obviously be mafia then.
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:37:49
Ok, it's time to end the day [B]Vote: Shihab[/B] I think it's the 8 vote for Shihab
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:38:00
Supergirl wrote: A normal mafia for the other mafia? What other mafia? I'm confused.
Sorry that wasn't very well described.. :S Ok. IF undercover cop looks to be a mafia for the "normal" mafia they can't assasinate him? Because of the rule that the mafia can't assasinate one of their own. -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:38:32
cTreative_ wrote: Ok, it's time to end the day [B]Vote: Shihab[/B] I think it's the 8 vote for Shihab
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:39:12
Xzeria wrote: Scince the undercover cops job is get the Mafia lynched because he knows who they are, someone "cough" Shihab "cough" has been accusing someone (shadow) for being mafia without any solid evidence, does this mean that shihab would be an undercover cop? So that would mean if we lynch shadow and he is mafia we would automatically know that shihab is an undercover cop, and by the way shihab has been trying to get shadow lynched for quite a while I belive this could be true. I'm on to lynching shadow and IF he is a mafia I'd like to get a majority on lynching Shihab the next day. This would be a very good tactic because we need to have both the undercover cop and the mafia dead for us to win. If it works out we'd both kill a mafia and secure another lynch on shihab. [B]Sorry bud.. ; (( Vote: ShadowParadox[/B]
Hmm yes. If we lynch shadow and he does turn out to be mafia then Shihab would be an undercover cop. He can't be cop, he hasn't had time to investigate anyone to know that shadow is mafia. So then, there can only be three other ways that Shihab can know that Shadow is a mafia. 1.) Either Shihab is a mafia, and knowing all the other mafias, he wants to lynch one of his own to gain the townies trust that he is a cop. Since losing one mafia is not too big of a loss. There are still 4 mafias and townies will lose after 2 wrong lynch. Which Shihab will try to get, since he believes that he has gained the townies' trust that he is mafia. 2.) Shihab is an undercover cop and knows that Shadow is a mafia, and so he lynches Shadow based on Xzeria's reasons. 3.) Shihab is a psychic, and knows that Shadow is a mafia, and so he lynches Shadow based on Xzeria's reasons. This is all under the assumption that Shadow turns out to be a mafia. There is no way that after Shadow being revealed as a mafia that Shihab can't be either a mafia, undercover cop or a psychic. Unless Shihab made a lucky guess, which is highly unlikely due to the amount of players and the fact that Shihab is incredibly against not lynching Shadow. It appears as though you are right Xzeria. There are more votes towards Shadow right now, I am also inclined to vote for him since we need a lynch for information and there are more votes for Shadow than Shihab right now. 2 minutes left and I doubt many others will change their vote for Shihab, nor are other players online right now. We must go for a vote to gain information, it seems that [B]I am forced into voting[/B] Shadow. [B]Unvote: Shihab[/B] [B]Vote ShadowParadox[/B] -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:40:21
Fuck u guys...
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:40:43
I think that is 8votes agianst shadow right?
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:40:53
Weve lost
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:41:25
Xzeria wrote: I don't think he's near 8votes yet?
Yeah, it is. -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:41:35
ShadowParadox wrote: Fuck u guys...
Really sorry dude, I know how sad it is to get killed this early in the game.. -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:42:19
Chobi can you put your last min vote on SP?
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:42:21
cTreative_ wrote: Yeah, it is.
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:43:40
ShadowParadox wrote: Weve lost
Hmm. -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:44:10
To clarify. Just because I am now voting for Shadow does not mean that I am throwing away all my reasons thus far. I still believe that Shihab is not a cop, and is likely to be mafia. If it does turn out that Shadow is mafia and therefore Shihab was right in voting for Shadow then that does not make my proposition wrong. Since I've not stated that Shadow is not a mafia, nor have I stated that I think he is a townie. Also, if Shadow is a mafia then our suspiscions all turn back to Shihab, since for the reasons above, he will either be mafia, undercover cop or a psychic. If Shadow turns out to not be a mafia, then we can't believe that Shihab is a cop. Since he pushed hard for a vote towards a townie. Cops and Townies are on the same side. Another clarification, since Chobi got this wrong. Cops and undercover cop are two different roles. Cops can investigate other players roles at night (can only investigate one player per night) and can't know anyones role from the first day because it has not been night yet so he can't investigate. While the undercover cop knows all the roles.
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:45:27
Sorry guys, I haven't been active because I wasn't actually home the last couple of days. Can't give a lot of input, only sometimes read stuff on my phone. :( The question is between SP and Shihab?
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:47:30
Yes but if we vote for SP we can automatically know that Shihab is undercover cop, which allso needs to be killed by both sides to win, so we get sort of 2lynches for one, kinda?
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:47:59
And what about u xzeria? Suspicious much?
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:49:41
And by the way of how much evidence I present before I chose my lynch I could allmost even suspect everyone who dosen't vote with be to allso be mafia, scince they want to protect Sp then. Unless they were offline right now ofc.
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:50:23
Erirornal Kraione wrote: Sorry guys, I haven't been active because I wasn't actually home the last couple of days. Can't give a lot of input, only sometimes read stuff on my phone. :( The question is between SP and Shihab?
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:50:48
I am not mafia...
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:51:24
Fuck it! Do what u want!
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 12:55:25
cTreative_;280779]Ok, it's time to end the day [B]Vote: Shihab[/B] I think it's the 8 vote for Shihab[/QUOTE] No it's not. There are currently 7 votes for Shadow, it is 12 minutes past the end of the day but I hope Zen will allow last minute votes. [QUOTE=Zen wrote: 5 votes for @Tentcell) Time left http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?iso=20140418T1240&p0=%3A&msg=Mafia+Day+1&csz=1
Including yours now it would be 3 votes for Shihab since I changed my mind. Shihab's vote for Shadow is not counted because he decided to vote for me, which Zen must have overlooked. I just know that because of time constraint I need to change my vote, since it doesn't seem likely that people are voting for Shihab. And we definitely need a vote to gain information. Whether or not Shadow turns out to be mafia, Shihab will be our next target, for reasons that I've already stated. -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 13:00:03
Yeah I guess those are the best ways to proceed so far. At least we get solid information that way. Vote: ShadowParadox
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 13:03:34
I told you guys that I *might* change my vote, but I chose not to for the information we will get out of lynching SP. My original vote was for SP, and it still stands. @Xzeria
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 13:04:15
I guess the day is over then? Sp lynched and nigh begins?
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 13:05:05
Chobi wrote: I told you guys that I *might* change my vote, but I chose not to for the information we will get out of lynching SP. My original vote was for SP, and it still stands. @Xzeria
Ahh sorry I didn't remember, I think I mixed you up with someone else. Derp. -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 13:07:56
@Xzeria what do you think of my reasons that Shihab will either be mafia, undercover cop or psychic if Shadow is revealed to be a mafia. And yes, we have enough votes for a lynch now. Sorry Shadow, sucks to die after the first day. And sorry Zen if we're not allowed to discuss now, since it's technically gone past the end of the day.
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 13:08:34
U better fucking lynch shihab or ill kick youre fucking teeth in
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 13:11:07
Supergirl wrote: @Xzeria what do you think of my reasons that Shihab will either be mafia, undercover cop or psychic if Shadow is revealed to be a mafia. And yes, we have enough votes for a lynch now. Sorry Shadow, sucks to die after the first day. And sorry Zen if we're not allowed to discuss now, since it's technically gone past the end of the day.
Yes, there cannot be a reason for Shihab to try to get SP lynched unless he is what you said, and we need to kill all of those roles to win the game. So we win either way. -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 13:13:14
Xzeria wrote: Yes, there cannot be a reason for Shihab to try to get SP lynched unless he is what you said, and we need to kill all of those roles to win the game. So we win either way.
Agreed. All my reasons thus far still stands. Circumstances have changed, I need to lynch Shadow to confirm my theory that Shihab is not a cop. Whether or not Shadow turns out to be mafia, for reasons I've already stated, Shihab you will be next to be lynched. Hopefully the majority will agree during day 2. -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 13:27:40
@Zen Is the game over?
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Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 13:30:59
Court34 wrote: @Zen Is the game over?
Not over, but day one is up. And we should enter the night phase now and Zen should be announcing the Shadow lynch. -
Date: Fri, Apr 18 2014 15:26:12
Ah holy crap guys, i was sleeping my bad. I will allow any votes before this post. I think the lynch count is Shihab 6 and ShadowParadox 8, something like that sorry, i just woke up and i just can't sift through 10 pages. ShadowParadox is Lynched! with a majority of 8 votes. ShadowParadox is a MAFIA I don't get what you don't understand about the Undercover Cop? Basically he is to balance out the Psychic. Because if it was just the psychic or the undercover cop the game would be unfair for the mafia. Think about it, you have one guy who knows [B]Every[/B] single person's alignment. He could easily as @Ceru Seiyu said just reveal all the names of the mafia and then die and there would be no problem. So in order to fix that, the psychic and the Undercover Cop become third parties. Story wise, think of the UC as a person who only cares about himself. If he told everyone the mafia names he would be killed, which is why he is a vigilante and [B]has[/B] to survive. This was more of a last minute thing, but i feel it adds another level of strategy to the game. Again sorry for unexpectedly adding this. This won't be in the next game (If there is a next game) unless you want it in. Night phase Starts! I will pm the mafia a private discussion chatroom.
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 15:42:48
Night Phase is over! Game 2 Day 2 starts! @Xzeria is leaving the game, due to some personal obligations (Unless he is trolling me) So in order to compensate i will NOT announce his role. Until after the game ends. 2nd NOTE: Now i want to talk about "death rants". Granted everyone gets one, but they are not allowed to announce any [B]new[/B] information that hasn't been announced before. Shoeman6 had some nice death rants, they were poems. Very creative. Now because the psychic is dead, i don't want the Townies wanting the psychic to reveal all of the mafia's role. Got that? It will more or less break the game. You may say something vague, like this "Look at the information provided "Check what you have missed and what you have minded" Anyway 11 people left! Takes 6 to lynch! GO GO GO Timer http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140423T16&p0=179&msg=Mafia+Day+2
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 15:52:01
Well well, Supergirl's role does shake things up.
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 15:54:07
A mafia and a psychic, a good start I think.
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 16:09:01
Well, I got killed. Of course, I was at the heart of the game, putting all attention on me. Through the art of logic and rational thinking I completely tore down Shihab's argument. I was a big threat for the mafias, of course they have to eliminate me. It was only logical for them to do so. As a psychic I could of played smarter. But playing smarter wasn't fun. Since playing smarter would mostly mean keeping quiet, not fun at all. Even though I lost, I had fun. That's all that matters imo. Being a psychic was fun, knowing everyone's role more or less. Was fun seeing what everyone said, knowing exactly what they were up to. Since a psychic is the lone wolf, not belonging to either the townies or mafia I have no obligation to help either side. But I will continue my thoughts and reasons on from day 1. Shihab is your next target for reasons I have stated and will not go into again. Read through all the past 27 pages. I repeated myself a lot, for good reason too, not many people was listening despite my reasons being rational. Especially Solid, come on bro, did you even pay attention to what I said. And when you kept changing your mind about whether Shihab's reasons were good and valid, wtf. Make your mind up. And the people who kept quiet. Either don't sign up for the game or just give up. Why are you in the game if you don't contribute. I understand there are life issues to deal with, if that's the case let us know. If you're a townie your biggest power is your voice. Let your voice be heard.
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 16:13:52
Does this mean that @Shihab is infact a cop? or could he be mafia giving away other mafia names to give off the impression that he is a cop. but he is infact not? just an idea
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 16:57:46
[B]Vote: Shihab [/B]for my own theory and @Zen if theyre dead can will still tag them?)
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 17:01:38
No you cannot, do not mention them, you may however mention their theories. They are dead, but their ideas are not
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 17:33:47
Woo, all townies are intact, that's an interesting turn of events. Judging by how quickly they aimed at supergirl, they look to be targetting the people that speak the most, and supergirl was throwing theories everywhere. Might wanna be careful if we're doing post by post analysis to avoid making ourselves targets, if we have info we need to be a little more discrete with it.
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 17:53:24
Wow we are doing surprisingly well! Maybe we should think about lynching Shihab next? He was the one who suggested Shadowparadox, so the only way he could be mafia is if he was trying to pull some reverse psychology shit on us by pushing himself as far away from the other mafia as possible? Thats a weird strat -.-
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 18:07:25
With regards to shihab, it might be worth keeping him because if he is a cop, he can reveal someone again and we can lynch them. I think he's the least of our problems at the moment. 11 left, 4 Mafia. Aside from the undercover cop, we have a good strength in numbers now. Gonna wanna wait for some more people to post before I start taking a deeper look on who to rank in terms of likeliness of being mafia. @Solid cool your tits please, you don't want to lynch a cop. Much too risky.
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 18:36:19
Lynch shihab! 他是叛徒。我是很愤怒！
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 19:11:05
Ignore ShadowParadox, remember that he's Mafia so he wins if all townies die. He wouldn't out his own team.
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 19:27:25
im keeping my vote. might change it later.
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 19:38:15
This still bugs me.
ShadowParadox wrote: U better fucking lynch shihab or ill kick youre fucking teeth in
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 20:39:37
Ceru's being quite protective of shihab, and also seems quite positive that he is a cop. Now I know super was a psychic, so we can't really follow his motives, but shihab is still definitely top of my list.
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 20:48:16
I still my suspicions on Shihab, but i'm gonna keep my eyes open.
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 22:08:15
Tentcell wrote: Ceru's being quite protective of shihab, and also seems quite positive that he is a cop. Now I know super was a psychic, so we can't really follow his motives, but shihab is still definitely top of my list.
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 22:31:25
I'm still kind of confused...what is @Shihab claiming to be? There are 3 kinds of cops.. 1) Undercover cop, who knows all the roles but from what i understand, is neutral. He needs to survive to win, and the mafia and villagers need to lynch him in order to win. He can't be killed at night. 2) Townie Cop, who can investigate one person every night and determine if they are mafia. 3) Mafia Cop, who investigates a person every night to see what kind of role they are (obviously they know who is mafia) ___ One is the Undercover Cop The mafia must lynch the undercover cop during the day phase. The mafia CANNOT kill another mafia during the night The Undercover cop has no power other than the fact that he knows all of the roles The Undercover Cop in order to win must be alive in the end In order for the villagers or mafia to win they must lynch the undercover cop Mafia Role Cop: You are a member of the Mafia along with your partner, name. Since your plot to quietly overtake the town has failed, you will attempt take it by force by eliminating the others until you outnumber the populace. During the day, try to blend in with the normal Townies, and attempt to get someone lynched. As a Role cop, you have the ability to determine the role of one player every night. Your ability will always work unless you are roleblocked. Send the moderator a PM with your choice of player that you want to investigate. You will then receive information about the role of the player. During the NIGHT cycle ONLY, you may talk with your fellow Mafia (via ) and choose another player in the town to kill that night. You may communicate privately with your fellow Mafia up until the game thread is opened. Once the game begins, all outside communication must cease until the night cycle. You win when the number of Mafia equals or exceeds the number of remaining Town players, whether you survive to the end or not. Please confirm you have read and understood this PM by sending me a PM back stating your role. Cop: You are the local law enforcement, and can tell the good guys from the bad. Each NIGHT, you may send the moderator a PM with your choice of player that you want to investigate. The Moderator will inform you as to that person's guilt or innocence. At no time may you privately communicate with any other player. In this game, you will always get a correct result. If you are roleblocked, you will get no result. You win when all the Mafia players are gone, whether you survive to the end or not. Please confirm you have read and understood this PM by sending me a PM back stating your role
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 22:44:51
I Still [B]HAVE[/B]*
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 22:48:54
From what I see, none of the roles would make sense for Shihab to claim he is a cop. 1) If he was an Undercover Cop, he would want to NOT get lynched. Why would he expose himself only to be lynched by whatever party is winning at the end of the game? 2) If Shihab was a townie cop he wouldn't have known Shadow was mafia on the first day, since Role Cops can't investigate until the first night. 3) Mafia cop wouldn't try to help the townies or reveal himself as a cop.... From what I remember, Shihab was vague when he claimed he was a cop. The only thing that makes sense to me is if Shihab is a mafia cop: Mafia role cops know for sure who is mafia.
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 23:37:45
There is no Mafia Cop anymore. I took that out, because it didn't seem fair for the villagers. Think about it, the mafia [B]already[/B] know who is who, and they already have a partnership, as a mafia member cannot kill another mafia member, not to mention they can talk to each other, and they automatically kill someone, (Unless of course a Doctor or Jailkeeper stops them,) They are still powerful, so adding another person who can investigate, potential Jailkeepers and Doctors, who they can later kill seemed pointless, so i took it out. If you look at the past games Mafia has Always won. There was one game, where the mafia actually lost, but this was only because The Villagers were able to nail both mafias and the Godfather in all three days. A perfect game in other words. So They had to be nerfed a bit. Lets see how it goes.
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Date: Sun, Apr 20 2014 23:55:17
If you want to join the next game post here http://forum.upsb.info/showthread.php?t=16733
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Date: Mon, Apr 21 2014 00:30:06
Ok, sorry for the late response; I was a little busy. It seems you guys trusted me enough to lynch Shadow and for that I thank you. And, as I suspected (and hoped), Shadow was mafia. I see that Supergirl was psychic and the mafia taking him out only helps villagers (psychic needs to die for villager's win iirc) However, you guys seem to have some misconceptions regarding my own identity. I believe supergirl, before dying, "suspected" I was uc cop. I have already claimed to be cop so this is a conflicting report. Of course, for super to win he could go for either team mafia or villager. Suppose he went for mafia, then his actions make some sense: voting me out, a cop, is a bonus for the mafia team, protecting Shadow (albeit indirectly, by accusing me) is another bonus. As a psychic, he knows the identity of all the players, thus he alone knew absolutely of the truth of my claims. Consider his actions, in light of this information. See what sense you can make of it. Now, for those of you confused at how I caught Shadow despite the fact I am a cop (i.e I had no absolute knowledge of his identity, but still got him) the answer is simple. It was a [B]gamble[B]. Of course I didn't know for sure Shadow was mafia, but his actions were suspicious and beyond that his actions were chaotic and random, making him a volatile element (i.e unpredictable). If you need reasoning look at my previous lengthy posts on this subject. Furthermore, notice that I was wrong about supergirl (I really thought he was a villager, mafia got lucky I guess), thus my predictions are by no means perfect. So I guess what I'm trying to say is: [B]I got lucky[B]. I risked my neck to get everyone's trust, knowing full well the ax that would come down if I was wrong. This is a game, I figured taking some risk would be interesting, so i did. It paid off, and the villagers now have an significant advantage. This is the simple truth of it. Some of you, I'm sure, still have your suspicions. No matter, but I ask you to put that on the back burner as I tell you some more conclusive information. [B]Errior is mafia[/B]. As I suspected, my investigation of Errior turned out to be in the positive and Errior is, in fact, mafia. I hope you all consider these words-my words- to be of some merit. I will pose no more ultimatums, no more gambles. I've taken the risks, and I hope I've reaped the reward (your trust). Use the information as you see fit. Lynching me as per supergirl's instructions is always a viable option as well, but I hope you take his words with a grain of salt. With that said, there are 4 mafia left, of which Errior is one. Should you all follow through on this information, there will be 3 mafia left and 7 villagers (I am assuming the worst case scenario, where Xeria is not a mafia, if he is, even better, as it means 2 mafia left.) Villager's have the advantage, and with the psychic out of the way...this game can be won people! I trust you will do the correct thing.
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Date: Mon, Apr 21 2014 04:48:55
Ahhh got it. So you're saying you are a townie cop
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Date: Mon, Apr 21 2014 05:40:48
Shihab's basically pinning a "kill or lynch me" sign on his head right now. It does add up though that he isn't mafia, he wouldn't have pushed so hard for that Shadow lynch. But are we to believe that he's indeeed a townie cop like he says he is?
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Date: Mon, Apr 21 2014 12:59:39
That opinon is for us to decide.
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Date: Mon, Apr 21 2014 19:31:38
He asked me to translate this...
ShadowParadox;281010]Lynch shihab! 他是叛徒。我是很愤怒！[/QUOTE] He is trying to trick you (alternative: he is a traitor). I'm angry. I thought that was worth sharing. [QUOTE=Ceru Seiyu wrote: Might wanna be careful if we're doing post by post analysis to avoid making ourselves targets, if we have info we need to be a little more discrete with it.
We are already at a disadvantage since the mafiosi have information we don't. If we have information, we need to share it. @Solid you seem pretty certain. "Yesterday" you seemed to not understand Supergirl's theories but now you are hell-bent on voting Shihab. Why? -
Date: Mon, Apr 21 2014 20:38:28
Shihab I want to believe you're a cop. Pfft. Heck, you're all I have to go on. I did have a little suspicion of eriror but I'm not certain either. Course, Shihab doesn't add up as a mafia and if he's a townie, well, he seems to experienced to try and just go on a random spree.
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Date: Mon, Apr 21 2014 20:47:08
@Laugh if shihab is a "cop" then i want him to prove it because without his proof he could just as well be a mafia giving out other mafias name to get on the side of us townies and trick us into thinking he is a cop. of course it is an idea but im sticking to it. I am not fully agreeing with all of what supergirl said on why we should vote him but i have to agree, not because supergirl was a phycic and trying to stay out of it all by saying who they think is the mafia, but because of the reasons i have just stated.
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Date: Mon, Apr 21 2014 20:59:33
Solid wrote: @Laugh if shihab is a "cop" then i want him to prove it because without his proof he could just as well be a mafia giving out other mafias name to get on the side of us townies and trick us into thinking he is a cop. of course it is an idea but im sticking to it. I am not fully agreeing with all of what supergirl said on why we should vote him but i have to agree, not because supergirl was a phycic and trying to stay out of it all by saying who they think is the mafia, but because of the reasons i have just stated.
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Date: Mon, Apr 21 2014 21:02:30
sorry, what is a pressure vote. @Laugh
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Date: Mon, Apr 21 2014 21:13:41
Solid wrote: sorry, what is a pressure vote.
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Date: Mon, Apr 21 2014 23:06:47
@Laugh in that case yes.
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Date: Tue, Apr 22 2014 00:15:56
@Solid, I don't know what you're hoping to accomplish with your "pressure vote". I've already given all the info I know (Errior is mafia, as my investigation has shown me). I have no other information to give you. I guess you sincerely believe I'm a uc cop or mafia. Even if I were, why on earth would I give you MORE information? As I've already proven, mafia is in the hole right now, if I were mafia (or uc cop playing for the mafia win) why would I give names and make the hole even deeper? As a cop, I already gave you the information I possessed. Do you want me to make another educated guess as before with Shadow? Well, to me, the most suspicious person is tentcell, since I've not heard from him in a while and he was another person who wanted me dead badly. Its possible he used super's accusations on me to hide his own guilt. On the other hand, the rest of actions are in keeping with the logic of a villager, and even his attack against me before can be explained as sincere belief in my guilt. All in all, I cannot say with the same certainty as I did with Shadow, who the other mafia are. I'd like to think I'm good, but not THAT good. You also want "proof" of my identity, you do realize this is impossible? There is no way to completely prove my identity as cop (with 100% certainty I mean). Keep in mind the my main attacker was super and he was a psychic (hence his words should be taken with a grain of salt, as I've already said). Also keep in mind, while I did take a gamble with Shadow, I was correct in the end, and I just gave you another name. This is the name you should act on, if you have any trust for me at all. And even if you are still suspicious, consider that, If I'm lying, you still have a free kill (me) and still retain the advantage as villager, i.e you kill erriror and he is villager, then you kill me since I must logically be either mafia, or uc cop. But if I'm right (and I am ;) ), then you get a mafia and you let me try and identify another mafia. Win-win.
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Date: Tue, Apr 22 2014 03:14:32
Well after reading everything again, it makes complete sense on why Supergirl wanted the cop gone, and I truly believe that Shihab is on the side of us townies. With that said, and this not all being a ruse, he has put his life on the line for telling us that Erirornal Kraione is apart of the mafia, and there is a high possibility that he will die as a result. Just for that reason I will have to [B]Vote: Erirornal Kraione [/B] Thanks Shihab.
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Date: Tue, Apr 22 2014 12:22:40
Zen wrote: Night Phase is over! Game 2 Day 1 starts!
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Date: Tue, Apr 22 2014 16:30:10
VOTE: Erirornal Kraione All I have to go on, as long as we have shihab we retain a win-win situation. Shihab is likely to get lynched tonight, so we must figure out where to go when he goes down foo.
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Date: Tue, Apr 22 2014 17:25:53
Currently the votes as they stand It takes 6 to lynch @Shihab Ceru Seiyu, please make sure to bold your vote. Although its no really a big problem, it does help me and anyone else who is interested by your post. ;)
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Date: Tue, Apr 22 2014 22:33:37
Fuu, hard to keep this up. Still Reading everything. Althouh I haven't decide anything yet.
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Date: Wed, Apr 23 2014 06:59:00
There is a possibility that Shihab is just gaining our trust so he can fool everyone at the end of the game, but I feel like we can always vote him out later if he is wrong. Sooner or later, IF he is mafia, he will have to start getting us to lynch townies, and we can lynch him. I think the best thing is to go with Eriror. [B]VOTE: Erirornal Kraione[/B]
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Date: Wed, Apr 23 2014 11:02:15
I'm just surprised that @Shihab hasn't voted for Eriror himself if he knows what's up.
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Date: Wed, Apr 23 2014 12:23:11
[B]VOTE: Erirornal Kraione[/B] Same as Ceru, it's all I can go for right now. Although I still am suspicious about Shihab, it's a win-win situation for the night. If he's actually a townie cop like he says, he'll likely get killed tonight. If he doesn't get killed, pretty obvious that he's mafia. The mafia has to kill Shihab tonight if he really is a cop like he says. If not, then he'll just keep investigating more and more mafia to lynch.
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Date: Wed, Apr 23 2014 15:28:40
@Tent, yeah lol...I forgot about that sorry! [B]Vote Errior[/B].
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Date: Wed, Apr 23 2014 18:53:34
Chobi wrote: [B]VOTE: Erirornal Kraione[/B] Same as Ceru, it's all I can go for right now. Although I still am suspicious about Shihab, it's a win-win situation for the night. If he's actually a townie cop like he says, he'll likely get killed tonight. If he doesn't get killed, pretty obvious that he's mafia. The mafia has to kill Shihab tonight if he really is a cop like he says. If not, then he'll just keep investigating more and more mafia to lynch.
:facepalm: Now the mafia knows that, they don't kill him and let him get linched the day after. -
Date: Wed, Apr 23 2014 20:06:25
I will take any last votes. I think i have been more than lenient with the times. So any last votes? Alright well it looks like no one else is on. So without further ado Day 2 is over! Night Phase begins! Story: Forgot to update this, the spies who infiltrate the town, decide to lynch ShadowParadox, as an counterintelligence. Everyone feeling good about themselves, eliminating the opposition and successfully completing their mission, go to rest. However! During the night, Supergirl was killed! Now eyes shift from one another, who could have done this heinous act? Xzeria is nowhere to be seen, where could he be? Perhaps, he killed Supergirl and left in a cloud of guilt. Reassuring themselves, that Xzeria killed Supergirl, they retreat to the dream world again.......
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2014 02:25:50
Okay, uh this game has been really inactive lately. So i think i am just going to end it here. Sorry for those who want to play. There are some people though who might have not enough time to post, and this really hinders the game for the rest of you. There are just too many people not posting enough. So sorry again to those who want to play, i sincerely hope you can find another game on such short notice.
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2014 03:29:38
Zen wrote: Okay, uh this game has been really inactive lately. So i think i am just going to end it here. Sorry for those who want to play. There are some people though who might have not enough time to post, and this really hinders the game for the rest of you. There are just too many people not posting enough. So sorry again to those who want to play, i sincerely hope you can find another game on such short notice.
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2014 03:32:43
Duly noted @Tentcell. That is probably the reason. Anyway, if you want to join the next game, or whatever post in this thread http://forum.upsb.info/showthread.php?t=16733&page=5
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Date: Sat, Apr 26 2014 11:45:07
27 pages of posts on the first day compared to 5 pages on the second lmao
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Date: Sun, May 4 2014 15:33:54[SIZE="6"]--------Mafia Game 3 Day1--------[/SIZE]
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Date: Sun, May 4 2014 17:53:01
Day 1 has started! @Zen for helping me with this, we wouldnt be able to play if it wasnt for him so i would like to say a big thank you to him. Finally i want this to be a good game so no cheating of any kind and good luck.
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Date: Sun, May 4 2014 17:55:19
Let us begin the chaos.
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Date: Sun, May 4 2014 18:02:47
Have fun everybody!
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Date: Sun, May 4 2014 18:09:27
Oh yh and another thing, dont edit posts just double post. And if someone is inactive dont assume they are mafia, people have lives out of upsb and we dont want them to give up their daily things just because of a game on the internet
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Date: Sun, May 4 2014 19:37:52
so.. there are no night roles at all?
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Date: Sun, May 4 2014 20:20:59
What do mean when you say night roles? There is still the Mafia Goon, but that is it. There is no Mafia Role Cop or Undercover Cop. Regular Rules. Thanks for the mention @ShadowParadox, i really appreciate it.
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Date: Sun, May 4 2014 20:37:55
Let the game unfold.
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Date: Sun, May 4 2014 20:57:08
well shadow said there are no cops or anything. does that include townie cop and townie doctor and stuff?
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Date: Sun, May 4 2014 21:35:12
The setup is randomized, but just know that there is no Undercover Cop in this game. Townie Cop and Townie Doctor MAY be in this game. They were included in the setup. So THIS game MAY have Townie Cop or it MAY NOT. Got it? (sorry had to use the capitals to stress my point but you get my point)
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Date: Sun, May 4 2014 22:17:18
Well with there being just mafia goons it'll make our jobs much easier, the mafia will be blind to other special roles which will be beneficial
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Date: Mon, May 5 2014 00:07:39
ShadowParadox wrote: No storyline cause thats for pussies XD
So last game we were pussies? -
Date: Mon, May 5 2014 08:12:58
Supergirl wrote: So last game we were pussies?
Yup :P Nah jk there is no storyline because i cant think of one...thats why -
Date: Mon, May 5 2014 14:20:13
Would like to hear from the other 5 players.
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Date: Mon, May 5 2014 20:57:34
Yeah guys really, another roaring start with activity. Just throwing it out there, I have AP testing and I'm still managing to take a few minutes of my day to post...
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Date: Mon, May 5 2014 21:57:37
You guys are really better off playing after a month or two. It may be best for the summer. Seriously, it seems you guys got tired of the game. It's up to @ShadowParadox and the rest of you guys if you want to play. In my honest opinion just, drop it and wait until after ALL the tests and stuff are over. I have tests also (I will most likely be the host in the summer) If not, actually post here. I know you guys may not have the time to post so therefore, you should make your posts [B]Short and Important[/B]. That is All
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Date: Mon, May 5 2014 23:10:23
I would like the game to continue for at least two game days and see where that gets us. If it is still rather inactive then, then I guess we should close the game and wait a few months before we start another game.
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Date: Tue, May 6 2014 03:48:10
holyyyy shit i had two back to back ap tests today ill try my best to be active but i may be a bit slow this week x]
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Date: Tue, May 6 2014 04:40:06
Well this game got off to a great start.... Shiftyei, Laugh, Chobi, Ceru Seiyu all haven't said a single word yet. I find it interesting that cTreative_ and Court34 were the first ones to post in the game, as if they were really excited for the game to start, and then suddenly disappeared....
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Date: Tue, May 6 2014 06:12:30
I'm sorry =( I just don't know what to say. Accusing people randomly would be a mean move by my part :/
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Date: Tue, May 6 2014 06:37:48
I don't really have anything to add at the moment, and I was horrifically busy yesterday.
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Date: Tue, May 6 2014 14:00:09
casual wrote: I find it interesting that cTreative_ and Court34 were the first ones to post in the game, as if they were really excited for the game to start, and then suddenly disappeared....
Don't worry, I'm here. -
Date: Tue, May 6 2014 21:50:21
So we have under 24 hours till the day ends. As we all should know by now, it is beneficial to get a lynch on the first day. Since there's been hardly any posts and hardly/none leads to go on. Today's lynch may be out of random. So unless there are any suspicions that anyone has, we should resort to voting someone random and see where that gets us. I can see how picking on someone random and having everyone to vote on them is rather unfair. But other than that, we don't really have anything to go on if hardly anyone posts.
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Date: Tue, May 6 2014 22:06:13
To fairly choose someone at random I can assign everyone a number and then go to a random number generating site and let them generate a random number. And whoever that person is we vote to lynch that guy. I'll be including myself of course. Or, if you don't trust me we can get Shadow or Zen to do this for us.
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Date: Wed, May 7 2014 01:06:53
Sorry guys with all the AP tests going on it's been hard to find time :/ @Supergirl that sounds fair.
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Date: Wed, May 7 2014 02:25:12
Yup, that seems like the best way to kick the game off =)
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Date: Wed, May 7 2014 04:17:59
casual wrote: Well this game got off to a great start.... Shiftyei, Laugh, Chobi, Ceru Seiyu all haven't said a single word yet. I find it interesting that cTreative_ and Court34 were the first ones to post in the game, as if they were really excited for the game to start, and then suddenly disappeared....
I'm here . it's just last game i wanted to post first and now i did. :) -
Date: Wed, May 7 2014 04:19:02
Also, casual, why are you trying to luck someone out already? Want someone to die?
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Date: Wed, May 7 2014 04:29:01
yeah lets go for it
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Date: Wed, May 7 2014 05:09:08
Obviously I want someone to die? The goal of the game for townies is to kill off all the mafia. If we don't do anything, mafia kills someone for free every night and we lose. Why don't you want anyone to die during the day if you are townie? Now obviously, there isn't much info to go off of at this point, because pretty much nobody is talking. If nobody talks, it just makes it easier for mafia to win. Given all this, why are you encouraging inaction? Seems like you want to give mafia an advantage.
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Date: Wed, May 7 2014 05:10:32
@Court34
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Date: Wed, May 7 2014 07:07:37
@casual is that a vote or just a mention because it should be in bold if it is a vote
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Date: Wed, May 7 2014 10:58:24
You really think i would become a mafia? I have been a townie for 2 games, not like it's gonna change. And, i don't want inaction, I want a good reason for someone to be lynched. If that doesn't come up in time, we could random it.
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Date: Wed, May 7 2014 11:45:48
Ok, I like random votes. [B]Vote: Supergirl[/B]
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Date: Wed, May 7 2014 13:09:02
I think the ball is rolling and we might not need the random lynching =)
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Date: Wed, May 7 2014 13:59:51
cTreative_ wrote: Ok, I like random votes. [B]Vote: Supergirl[/B]
And how did you come to choose me by random? -
Date: Wed, May 7 2014 14:29:44
Choosing someone at random needs to be fair, which is why I suggested my method of choosing someone at random, as it also includes myself in the selection process. I don't know what method you used to select me by random creative. Did you just pick someone out by random on your own? If so, I have reason to believe that you would of excluded yourself from this selection. Which is not fair at all. What gives you the right to not include yourself in the random selection process? ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Court34 wrote: You really think i would become a mafia? I have been a townie for 2 games, not like it's gonna change. And, i don't want inaction, I want a good reason for someone to be lynched. If that doesn't come up in time, we could random it.
Gambler's fallacy. The roles you were given last game does not affect the role you are given this game. Just because you were a townie in the last two games doesn't mean that you will also be a townie this game. But of course, it is still possible that you are a townie. -
Date: Wed, May 7 2014 17:36:11
So half an hour left. No leads to base a vote on. So I'm going to resort to a random vote via the method I proposed. Here's the evidence.
So it looks like Court34 is the one to be lynched.
[B]Vote: Court34[/B] -
Date: Wed, May 7 2014 18:21:31
Day 1 is over! No lynches...night phase starts Night phase ends friday at 19:00
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Date: Wed, May 7 2014 18:28:34
@Zen can u close the thread and send me the private chat room, via pm of course
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Date: Sat, May 10 2014 14:04:11
Night 1 has ended. @Tentcell Mafia have killed chobi. He is allowed one death rant Let day 2 commence. Day 2 ends on monday 6:00pm as i dont think ill be on at 3:00
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Date: Sat, May 10 2014 14:13:35
Oh yh forgot to add chobi was a townie
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Date: Sat, May 10 2014 14:20:37
Oh jeez the mafia are going to keep picking people off :/ can we all argue?
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Date: Sat, May 10 2014 14:40:53
Chobi died this night because he was inactive. That's was a good choice by mafia, because we don't really get any information that way.
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Date: Sat, May 10 2014 14:46:46
Well now we have things to worry about. The mafia aren't going to stop killing, so we must lynch someone today.
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Date: Sat, May 10 2014 14:58:48
Supergirl wrote: Choosing someone at random needs to be fair, which is why I suggested my method of choosing someone at random, as it also includes myself in the selection process. I don't know what method you used to select me by random creative. Did you just pick someone out by random on your own? If so, I have reason to believe that you would of excluded yourself from this selection. Which is not fair at all. What gives you the right to not include yourself in the random selection process?
My randomness can be as random as I want. And who would ever vote for himself? A scum that wants everyone to think that he is sick of this game and wants to leave it? -
Date: Sat, May 10 2014 16:09:36
cTreative_;282144]My randomness can be as random as I want. And who would ever vote for himself? A scum that wants everyone to think that he is sick of this game and wants to leave it?[/QUOTE] You still don't get it. It's not fair to everyone else if you don't include yourself in the pool of players from which you choose randomly. [QUOTE=cTreative_ wrote: My randomness can be as random [B]as I want[/B].
Then it won't be random. Your "random" choice will be influence by your own opinions. The question remains, what gives you the right to exclude yourself from the pool of players to be chosen randomly? We have no reason to believe that you are not mafia. So why should we trust your "random" choice if you don't include yourself in the selection process? -
Date: Sat, May 10 2014 16:15:51
Supergirl wrote: You still don't get it. It's not fair to everyone else if you don't include yourself in the pool of players from which you choose randomly. Then it won't be random. Your "random" choice will be influence by your own opinions. The question remains, what gives you the right to exclude yourself from the pool of players to be chosen randomly? We have no reason to believe that you are not mafia. So why should we trust your "random" choice if you don't include yourself in the selection process?
Why are you so defending? My mind gives me rights to exclude myself, because voting for yourself is just dumb. -
Date: Sat, May 10 2014 16:22:55
cTreative_ wrote: Why are you so defending? My mind gives me rights to exclude myself, because voting for yourself is just dumb.
I can understand that. But to not include yourself is not fair for others. -
Date: Sat, May 10 2014 16:24:58
Supergirl wrote: I can understand that. But to not include yourself is not fair for others.
Others can include me in their random vote as well, that's not a big problem, but it's no longer Day 1. Hopefully well have someone better to vote. -
Date: Sat, May 10 2014 16:45:08
cTreative_ wrote: My randomness can be as random as I want. And who would ever vote for himself? A scum that wants everyone to think that he is sick of this game and wants to leave it?
The only reason you wouldn't include proof of the random selection would be to skew it to your target. That's something a mafia player would try to do, knowing who to avoid putting the trigger on. Meanwhile, townies don't know who to target so everyone should be included. Especially you if you're doing the random selection. Mafia players would never risk themselves, what sort of logic is it that they'd want to leave because they're sick of it? Townie players need to give assurance in the random vote to convince other townies to vote for it, even if it happens to pick them. Randoming is far more likely to hit another townie so I'd much rather put my vote based on suspicion. [B]Vote: cTreative_[/B] -
Date: Sat, May 10 2014 17:01:06
Oh yh and also 6 votes for a lynch
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Date: Sat, May 10 2014 17:06:21
Ceru Seiyu;282160]The only reason you wouldn't include proof of the random selection would be to skew it to your target. That's something a mafia player would try to do, knowing who to avoid putting the trigger on.[/QUOTE] I can't give you proof that my mind made a random vote. [QUOTE=Ceru Seiyu;282160]Mafia players would never risk themselves[/QUOTE] Then why would townies risk themselves? There's no point in risking voting for yourself. You don't help the town by doing so. [QUOTE=Ceru Seiyu;282160]what sort of logic is it that they'd want to leave because they're sick of it?[/QUOTE] Tencell last game said that he would vote for himself if he needed only 1 vote to get lynched and everybody backed off. That would be a good strat for mafia. [QUOTE=Ceru Seiyu;282160]Townie players need to give assurance in the random vote to convince other townies to vote for it, even if it happens to pick them.[/QUOTE] "I vote him because a computer program said so." "Oh, that's a really good reason to lynch him" [QUOTE=Ceru Seiyu wrote: Randoming is far more likely to hit another townie so I'd much rather put my vote based on suspicion. [B]Vote: cTreative_[/B]
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Date: Sat, May 10 2014 18:28:15
Ceru Seiyu;282160]Randoming is far more likely to hit another townie so I'd much rather put my vote based on suspicion.[/QUOTE] cTreative_ came out of nowhere and put a vote on someone for no reason. That's suspicious. But don't you think it's a rather dumb move for mafia, who is trying to blend in with the townies? Why jump the gun so fast? I would like to hear your reasoning on this. [QUOTE=cTreative_ wrote: "I vote him because a computer program said so." "Oh, that's a really good reason to lynch him" Vote on someone who random voted without giving proof and the person he voted was not him? If it's ok for you then go ahead.
The thing is at that point there really wasn't much time left to make an informed decision because nobody was talking. And voting for somebody is better than voting for nobody. Unfortunately we ended up voting for nobody. I wonder why you seem to twist Supergirl's intentions into something bad? @Everyone else, I would like to hear your thoughts on all these matters. -
Date: Sat, May 10 2014 18:32:31
casual wrote: The thing is at that point there really wasn't much time left to make an informed decision because nobody was talking. And voting for somebody is better than voting for nobody.
If Supergirl really wanted to lynch someone on Day 1, then why random voting without reasons is unacceptable? That's the point of a random vote, that it doesn't have a reason. -
Date: Sat, May 10 2014 18:51:27
cTreative_ wrote: If Supergirl really wanted to lynch someone on Day 1, then why random voting without reasons is unacceptable? That's the point of a random vote, that it doesn't have a reason.
Because your vote was clearly not random. You voted for the person who suggested to do random vote via a randomizer. I doubt you put all our names into a random number generator and it came up with Supergirl. If that were the case you definitely would've mentioned it. Don't you think it's a bit provocative to vote for Supergirl immediately after he suggested to do a random vote? It sort of implies you are against the idea. -
Date: Sat, May 10 2014 19:16:08
@casual Because hardly anyone else is posting in this game. And by posting I mean posting something that can lead to suspicions. I think I've been just as active as other players anyways.
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Date: Sun, May 11 2014 05:18:30
I was killed due to inactivity? Jesus. The game wasn't going anywhere on the first day so I saw no reason to post. Oh well
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Date: Sun, May 11 2014 11:41:32
casual wrote: Because your vote was clearly not random. You voted for the person who suggested to do random vote via a randomizer. I doubt you put all our names into a random number generator and it came up with Supergirl. If that were the case you definitely would've mentioned it. Don't you think it's a bit provocative to vote for Supergirl immediately after he suggested to do a random vote? It sort of implies you are against the idea.
My random vote is as fair as writing a bunch of names in the notepad, giving everyone numbers, going to the generator and pressing the generate button until it shows you the number of a person you want to get lynched. It's basically the same, you just waste time to fool people that don't understand that it can be easily faked.
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Date: Sun, May 11 2014 21:11:07
Less than 24 hours till the day ends. And again there's not much to base a vote on.
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Date: Sun, May 11 2014 21:30:35
Man this game is hopeless... [B]Vote: Supergirl[/B] Gut feeling. He seems to be hanging around the game, but he never actually promotes any discussion. As I stated earlier, I feel like he's playing slightly differently this game than in the previous games and that's worrying me. I feel like if Supergirl were townie, he'd be trying much harder to get things going right now. The real kicker though, is the fact that Chobi was night killed. This makes little sense to me, as he had literally no activity in the game day 1. If mafia really wanted to take advantage of our no vote, they would've at least killed someone who contributed to the game, so as to limit townie discussion in the following days. Seems like a move intended to make the game more interesting rather than a move to win, and this seems like something Supergirl would do based off of my observations of his forum activity. inb4 all 3 mafia are inactive ppl
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Date: Sun, May 11 2014 21:44:06
Well it doesn't help that the only people posting in this game are basically me, supergirl, and cTreative_. I doubt we'll be able to get a majority vote even if there were discussion. Maybe the game should just end here....
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Date: Sun, May 11 2014 22:04:24
cTreative_ wrote: My random vote is as fair as writing a bunch of names in the notepad, giving everyone numbers, going to the generator and pressing the generate button until it shows you the number of a person you want to get lynched. It's basically the same, you just waste time to fool people that don't understand that it can be easily faked. http://s28.postimg.org/ydp6y6vsd/Untitled.png
If he was a mafia member why would he say that if people wanted it more definite, then Zen should generate the random player. Why bother faking it if he even offers a fake-proof method. Meanwhile you're just bloody sketchy -
Date: Sun, May 11 2014 22:10:04
You even opposed Supergirl when he offered that, so from my eyes you have sone ulterior motive as to why you wouldn't accept a true random and say that it should be done by Zen. Defending YOUR random rather than a 'better system' therefore. Just bloody strange logic, mate
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Date: Sun, May 11 2014 22:28:01
casual wrote: Man this game is hopeless... [B]Vote: Supergirl[/B] Gut feeling. He seems to be hanging around the game, but he never actually promotes any discussion. As I stated earlier, I feel like he's playing slightly differently this game than in the previous games and that's worrying me. I feel like if Supergirl were townie, he'd be trying much harder to get things going right now. The real kicker though, is the fact that Chobi was night killed. This makes little sense to me, as he had literally no activity in the game day 1. If mafia really wanted to take advantage of our no vote, they would've at least killed someone who contributed to the game, so as to limit townie discussion in the following days. Seems like a move intended to make the game more interesting rather than a move to win, and this seems like something Supergirl would do based off of my observations of his forum activity. inb4 all 3 mafia are inactive ppl
Like I said before, hardly anyone is posting. And even when people do post, they're not saying anything in particular that leads me to suspect them, so what can I even say? -
Date: Sun, May 11 2014 22:33:37
cTreative_ wrote: My random vote is as fair as writing a bunch of names in the notepad, giving everyone numbers, going to the generator and pressing the generate button until it shows you the number of a person you want to get lynched. It's basically the same, you just waste time to fool people that don't understand that it can be easily faked. http://s28.postimg.org/ydp6y6vsd/Untitled.png
Yes it can be easily faked. But as Ceru has kindly pointed out, I have suggested that if you don't trust me then we can get Zen or Shadow to do it it for us. However, since Shadow has stated that he will not do it, you can only trust me. And if you don't, then fine, you don't have to go with my vote. -
Date: Sun, May 11 2014 22:39:44
Supergirl's random vote must've scared the mafia since they have a chance of being lynched randomly. So it would make sense for them to kill him in the night to end the random voting; instead Chobi was killed. The fact that he is still alive says a lot to me. Thus [B]Vote: Supergirl[/B]
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Date: Sun, May 11 2014 22:51:51
Ok, so I just went back and read all the posts from day one so I'm going to make a few judgments about the people that have posted something that actually contributes something. As far as I can tell there's only really 2 people making posts worth talking about. Casual - Seems eager to try to figure out who the mafias are. So right now I don't think he's mafia. Creative - responding to my proposal of random voting. And goes on to make his own random vote, which he seems to have excluded himself from the selection process. There are two things that can be learnt here. As he explained, it seems as though he didn't include himself in the selection process because it's rather absurd to include oneself to be voted out. Even so, his random vote was not entirely random. He said so himself that he voted for me from his "mind". Suggesting that the vote is not random and based on self opinions. The second thing about this is that creative may be mafia, which is why he agrees to my choice of random voting. Since Laugh and Shiftyei was in agreement with my decision for a random voting, creative seems to jump onto the bandwagon and takes matters into his own hand by making a "random" vote. In hopes that he will get at least two more votes since two players have agreed with my choice of random voting. But this is just speculation. Not entirely sure if creative is mafia. On one hand I can see why he would exclude himself from the random vote, but on the other hand it's not fair for others and as a mafia it seems to provide him safety. The other players are not saying much for me to make a judgment about them. At this moment in time this is all I got, nothing definite. Seems like an easy game for the mafias if no one is willing to talk. I do not wish for this day to end up like the first day with no lynch. This only works in the favor of the mafias.
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Date: Sun, May 11 2014 23:15:53
The fact that Chobi died really bothers me. It's definitely not a move mafia would do to win. Supergirl's last post is at least helping the townie cause so it's dumb to keep my vote on him, regardless of whether I'm suspicious of him. I am willing to vote for creative if that's what everyone else wants to do, though I still think it's a dumb move on his part if he were mafia to do something like that, which makes me think he's not. But you never know. Another course of action would be to vote some of the inactives simply to encourage activity. While the chances of mislynching are as high as random voting, we are guaranteed at least another day anyways, and it's better than not lynching. Though truth be told we should've done this on day 1. [B]Unvote: Supergirl[/B]
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Date: Sun, May 11 2014 23:18:59
Laugh wrote: Supergirl's random vote must've scared the mafia since they have a chance of being lynched randomly. So it would make sense for them to kill him in the night to end the random voting; instead Chobi was killed. The fact that he is still alive says a lot to me. Thus [B]Vote: Supergirl[/B]
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Date: Sun, May 11 2014 23:20:50
Laugh wrote: Supergirl's random vote must've scared the mafia since they have a chance of being lynched randomly. So it would make sense for them to kill him in the night to end the random voting; instead Chobi was killed. The fact that he is still alive says a lot to me. Thus [B]Vote: Supergirl[/B]
Making a random vote does indeed put the mafias in a position of being potentially lynched. But perhaps I didn't get killed because my random vote was not correct (in the sense that Court is not mafia so it didn't really cause any harm to the mafias) and that it doesn't necessarily mean that I will be making a random vote on the second day as well. The problem with killing a rather active player, such as myself, would bring suspicion to the players that has accused me of being mafia or wanted to get me lynched but failed to do so. Who has done this? Creative. So perhaps the mafias didn't decide to kill me because then the gun will be pointed at creative? Perhaps creative is mafia? Now that I think back to it, creative claims to have made a "random" vote on me, which he actually didn't and on top of that he excluded himself from the random vote which can only mean two things. That he is mafia, so he definitely doesn't want to be lynched. Or that he indeed does find it absurd to risk yourself to be lynched and may still turn out to be a townie. Whilst killing someone that's been inactive, inactive to the point of not posting at all, such as Chobi, is very safe and raises no alarms. -
Date: Sun, May 11 2014 23:29:36
Supergirl wrote: Whilst killing someone that's been inactive, inactive to the point of not posting at all, such as Chobi, is very safe and raises no alarms.
While this is true in a sense, if creative weren't mafia, there would be added benefit to killing you since it would set up another mislynch the next day. Is this 'evidence' that creative is mafia? Perhaps, assuming mafia is playing smart. But the problem is even if creative were mafia, it would still be a decent move to kill an active player just because of the general lack of activity on day 1. Taking out the few voices we have is a huge plus to mafia, at the cost of what? Adding evidence against creative? He can always talk his way out of it. Killing Chobi is just a non-optimal move no matter how you look at it. -
Date: Sun, May 11 2014 23:33:45
cTreative_ wrote: Chobi died this night because he was inactive. That's was a good choice by mafia, because we don't really get any information that way.
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Date: Mon, May 12 2014 00:31:28
casual wrote: What are your thoughts on creative and ceru? @jet I saw you reading this thread earlier. Have anything to contribute?
@causal the only reason i dissappeared is because i didn't see any " jumping points" in the argument. I will try to be more active. -
Date: Mon, May 12 2014 01:26:25
I will just do the vote counts quickly 1 vote for @Laugh
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Date: Mon, May 12 2014 07:20:05
Well I might not be on again before the deadline so: [B]Vote: cTreative_[/B]
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Date: Mon, May 12 2014 13:28:34
I think I'll vote creative, because from my view, he's just been fueling the fight. [B]Vote: Ctreative_[/B]
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Date: Mon, May 12 2014 13:51:52
casual;282262]The real kicker though, is the fact that Chobi was night killed. This makes little sense to me, as he had literally no activity in the game day 1. If mafia really wanted to take advantage of our no vote, they would've at least killed someone who contributed to the game, so as to limit townie discussion in the following days.[/QUOTE] Maybe because one of the active people are mafia? [QUOTE=Ceru Seiyu]If he was a mafia member why would he say that if people wanted it more definite, then Zen should generate the random player. Why bother faking it if he even offers a fake-proof method. Meanwhile you're just bloody sketchy[/QUOTE] If you offer an alternative, better method - you are going to look serious to others. Asking a mod to do something that is trust based, because he can be trusted is just not right. Ruins all the fun. This game is all about trust, you choose who to trust yourself. [QUOTE=Ceru Seiyu]You even opposed Supergirl when he offered that, so from my eyes you have sone ulterior motive as to why you wouldn't accept a true random and say that it should be done by Zen. Defending YOUR random rather than a 'better system' therefore. Just bloody strange logic, mate[/QUOTE] Because it is to suspicious to me. If all of us are going to make a random vote, nobody will get lynched on Day 1, because everybody is random voting, you can't really convince people to vote on someone because there's no reason. So this means no lynch on Day 1. Mafia knows that it is hard to get a lynch on Day 1, so this is a good strategy. [QUOTE=Supergirl]Yes it can be easily faked. But as Ceru has kindly pointed out, I have suggested that if you don't trust me then we can get Zen or Shadow to do it it for us. However, since Shadow has stated that he will not do it, you can only trust me.[/QUOTE] What? Are you trying to say that we should trust you? [QUOTE=Supergirl]The problem with killing a rather active player, such as myself, would bring suspicion to the players that has accused me of being mafia or wanted to get me lynched but failed to do so. Who has done this? Creative. So perhaps the mafias didn't decide to kill me because then the gun will be pointed at creative? Perhaps creative is mafia? [/QUOTE] But if I was killed, then everyone would just want to get you lynched. That means that one of us might be mafia. [QUOTE=Supergirl]Whilst killing someone that's been inactive, inactive to the point of not posting at all, such as Chobi, is very safe and raises no alarms.[/QUOTE] Or mafia can't kill us two, because like I said one of us can be mafia. Because of that, mafia decided to go with a clean kill. So here's my theory: Supergirl is mafia, trying to pass the Day 1 without a lynch. I oppose him, starts defending heavily. Night starts and mafia now can't kill me, because then one of their members are going to get killed. Day 2 starts. Still defending his idea of random voting and trying to get me dead by lynching, because it's too dangerous to do so at night. But it's just a theory... If I don't get any reasonable response from Super, I'm going to place my vote on him. http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?msg=Mafia%20Day%202&p0=%3a&year=2014&month=5&day=12&hour=19&min=0&sec=0 This timer should be correct. [QUOTE=Shiftyei wrote: I think I'll vote creative, because from my view, he's just been fueling the fight. [B]Vote: Ctreative_[/B]
Or just trying to find a scum. -
Date: Mon, May 12 2014 14:31:35
Btw sorry actually 5 peoplr for a lynch forgot there was 9 people
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Date: Mon, May 12 2014 14:35:18
@Tentcell anyone not made last votes yet? Even if u have nothing to contribute u could at least say somthing like "Hi ShadowParadox" XD
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Date: Mon, May 12 2014 14:36:43
Insyead of being dead to us
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Date: Mon, May 12 2014 14:41:51
ShadowParadox wrote: @Tentcell anyone not made last votes yet? Even if u have nothing to contribute u could at least say somthing like "Hi ShadowParadox" XD
Hi ShadowParadox ;D -
Date: Mon, May 12 2014 14:48:37
cTreative_;282317]What? Are you trying to say that we should trust you?[/QUOTE] This is the fact of the matter. Day 1 was rather inactive, to the point that there's hardly any leads to base a vote on. So I propose to randomly vote someone. I suggested a method, and I followed with said method. You have no reason to believe that I am not mafia. Nor do I have any reason to believe that any of you are not mafia. (well may be not casual, because of my previous explanation) So it seems a random vote is a rather logical step to get a lynch and hopefully retrieve intel the next day, based on the role that will be revealed to us for the person lynched. Now, random voting is rather tricky. Since one person needs to choose someone randomly. And no one really has any reason to believe this person. But if you don't believe this person's random vote. Then where does that leave us? Back to square one. Which is not having any suspects to vote on. I mean I already proposed a solid method to choose someone randomly. I even went to the lengths of getting the host to carry out this method for us. Suggesting that I am [B]willing[/B] to have a fair and just random vote. The host declined my offer, so it comes down to me to make the random vote. You'll just have to trust me that it was indeed random, based on the fact that I was willing to have the host to carry out this random selection process for us. Which means that I cannot influence or trick you guys into a fake random vote. [QUOTE=cTreative_;282317]But if I was killed, then everyone would just want to get you lynched. That means that one of us might be mafia.[/QUOTE] If you was killed then it can [B]suggest[/B] that I am mafia. Since you wanted to vote for me, and the mafias would want to protect one of their own. However, [B]you was not killed.[/B] [QUOTE=cTreative_;282317]Or mafia can't kill us two, because like I said one of us can be mafia. Because of that, mafia decided to go with a clean kill.[/QUOTE] Killing an active player raises alarms on to who the dead person accused or was accused by. So perhaps the mafia is an active player and trying to blend in. That is why they killed Chobi, as it raises no alarms as Chobi did not interact with anyone. [QUOTE=cTreative_;282317]Supergirl is mafia, trying to [B]pass the Day 1 without a lynch.[/B][/QUOTE] How did I try to pass day 1 without a lynch? I clearly suggested to make a random vote which I did so and ended up voting for Court34. [QUOTE=cTreative_;282317]I oppose him[/QUOTE] How did you oppose me? You said that you like random votes so you decided to vote for me. How is that opposing my choice of random voting? [QUOTE=cTreative_;282317]starts defending heavily[/QUOTE] I wouldn't really say that. I just think it weird that you want a random vote, and yet your vote is not random at all. So I kindly pointed that out. [QUOTE=cTreative_ wrote: trying to get me dead by lynching
I have not voted for you so how am I trying to get you dead by lynching you? I am merely suggesting that you could be mafia because you're one of the few that's actually posting for me to make a judgment on. -
Date: Mon, May 12 2014 15:09:57
Supergirl;282324]If you was killed then it can [B]suggest[/B] that I am mafia. Since you wanted to vote for me, and the mafias would want to protect one of their own. However, [B]you was not killed.[/B][/QUOTE] A reason why they killed Chobi. It's too dangerous to kill me when there's an easier way. [QUOTE=Supergirl;282324]Killing an active player raises alarms on to who the dead person accused or was accused by. So perhaps the mafia is an active player and trying to blend in. That is why they killed Chobi, as it raises no alarms as Chobi did not interact with anyone. [/QUOTE] You are just accepting my theory. [QUOTE=Supergirl;282324]How did I try to pass day 1 without a lynch? I clearly suggested to make a random vote which I did so and ended up voting for Court34. [/QUOTE] That kind of random voting just doesn't work. You was the only one, who voted on him. [QUOTE=Supergirl;282324]How did you oppose me? You said that you like random votes so you decided to vote for me. How is that opposing my choice of random voting?[/QUOTE] My opposition was hidden behind a random vote that you dislike so much. [QUOTE=Supergirl;282324]I wouldn't really say that. I just think it weird that you want a random vote, and yet your vote is not random at all. So I kindly pointed that out.[/QUOTE] Nobody knows if your vote was random either. [QUOTE=Supergirl wrote: I have not voted for you so how am I trying to get you dead by lynching you? I am merely suggesting that you could be mafia because you're one of the few that's actually posting for me to make a judgment on.
Trying to get me out not by voting, but by posting and convincing other to do so. -
Date: Mon, May 12 2014 15:12:34
Well everything I've said so far are just speculations. But since I have no other leads to go on. My vote is: [B]Vote:cTreative_[/B]
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Date: Mon, May 12 2014 15:21:26
Supergirl wrote: Well everything I've said so far are just speculations. But since I have no other leads to go on. My vote is: [B]Vote:cTreative_[/B]
Had fun playing this game [B]Vote: Supergirl[/B] People, we need to vote, not much time left. So get your votes together, nobody wants a day without a lynch, especially the Day 2. -
Date: Mon, May 12 2014 15:22:25
Almost final vote count: @Laugh - 1 vote
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Date: Mon, May 12 2014 15:23:41
welp that makes 2 votes for supergirl : laugh and ctreative_ great timing their buddy :P
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Date: Mon, May 12 2014 18:14:11
The fact that this day we are not going to get a lynch is making me sad. This game is dead anyway. I bet the mafia are Supergirl and Ceru Seiyu. This might not be true, but whatever. Have fun people that are still alive. I for sure had, even in this inactive game. So yeah, I sacrifice myself for the good of town. Having an odd number of players in a mafia game makes it easier for the town to win. Make a good use of it and stuff that I have done this game. [B]Unvote: Supergirld[/B] [B]Vote: cTreative_[/B] This is one of the exceptions for voting on yourself.
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Date: Mon, May 12 2014 18:37:42
Alright! Let's call it a day: day 2 has ended. Ctreative was lynched. Night 2 begins. Note: this game has been really inactive: no ones really playing and u guys are resorting to random votes which shouldn't be the way to go, so I'm gonna give this one more day and if it was anything like today or yesterday I'm gonna call the game off.
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Date: Tue, May 13 2014 00:23:43
Was creative a mafia?
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Date: Tue, May 13 2014 05:01:17
idk lol not much to contribute here
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Date: Tue, May 13 2014 05:11:06
OK cTreative_ wasa. Townie please stop posting here during the night phase Oh BTW night phase ends Wednesday 7:00
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Date: Wed, May 14 2014 17:19:03
Alright! Night 2 has ended! Day 3 start!@Tentcell Ctreative_ was lynched he was a townie he is allowed one death rant The mafia decided to kill casual, but the doctor decided to save him so casual is still alive. Day 3 ends saturday @ 6:00. Like i said before this might be the last day as it is really inactive so please try to be more active, even if its saying something like "hi shadowparadox!". It takes 5 to lynch...GoGoGo!!!
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Date: Wed, May 14 2014 17:27:11
Well this sucks, getting a wrong lynch is pretty bad. This is why I want more people to be active. I can only make judgments if you guys talk. And because there were only really a few people posting I was only able to have suspicions against those people which ultimately lead to a wrong lynch. I hope everyone can contribute a bit in this day. I'm glad that casual got saved, he's one of the more active players and will definitely help us out in finding out who the mafias are. So now the question that remains, is why did the mafias target casual this time? Last time they killed an inactive player which was rather safe but this time they decided to kill an active player?
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Date: Wed, May 14 2014 17:42:17
Don't get fooled, folks! Hunt em down and clean our town that is infested with those lurking mafia bastards!
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Date: Wed, May 14 2014 17:50:30
idk what is even happening anymore, are the mafia just lurkers at this point. IF noone is going to post anymore of course we're going to lynch all the wrong guys and we're going to lose, because we can't differentiate who is who unless all the townies actually partake in this.
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Date: Wed, May 14 2014 17:54:10
Interesting. Well I guess my townie role is now 100% confirmed, even though I guess it should've been obvious. Right now my main two suspects are Supergirl and jet. Supergirl is suspicious to me for the same reasons I've stated previously. It's also interesting to note that Supergirl and I were the two most active players, but I was targeted by mafia rather than Supergirl. Though this may be a ploy by mafia to cause a mislynch. jet is suspicious to me because he seems like he's pretty experienced in this game, yet he always comes on and just says how there's nothing in this game worth commenting about. I feel like he might be avoiding saying anything on purpose, staying low profile so nobody would suspect him. Ceru kinda comes into mind for pushing the case on creative. I feel like creative's actions too blatently attracted attention to himself for it to be a move that mafia would do, and if Ceru were mafia he just took advantage of it. Though tbh I have no opinions on Ceru just because at the time he accused creative, there was no other convincing case. Half the people in this game are inactive. It seems like a lot of players are afraid to say anything. But saying nothing is just plain bad for townie because we can only make educated lynches based off of what is posted here. If there is no conversation, there's no information. Lying low and not saying much is a good mafia strategy because it attracts less attention to themselves, especially if a lot of townies are also not saying anything. If they don't say anything, we have no basis to accuse them on. If you want townie to have any shot of winning, please be more proactive in talking, don't just wait for someone to say something "worth commenting on". That's just bad play. @Court34
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Date: Wed, May 14 2014 20:37:19
Well fuck...froggy just pm'ed me saying I shouldn't have revealed casuals save...try to erase that from your memory XD, Jk nothing we can do now just saying
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Date: Wed, May 14 2014 20:45:25
casual wrote: Interesting. Well I guess my townie role is now 100% confirmed, even though I guess it should've been obvious. Right now my main two suspects are Supergirl and jet. Supergirl is suspicious to me for the same reasons I've stated previously. It's also interesting to note that Supergirl and I were the two most active players, but I was targeted by mafia rather than Supergirl. Though this may be a ploy by mafia to cause a mislynch. jet is suspicious to me because he seems like he's pretty experienced in this game, yet he always comes on and just says how there's nothing in this game worth commenting about. I feel like he might be avoiding saying anything on purpose, staying low profile so nobody would suspect him. Ceru kinda comes into mind for pushing the case on creative. I feel like creative's actions too blatently attracted attention to himself for it to be a move that mafia would do, and if Ceru were mafia he just took advantage of it. Though tbh I have no opinions on Ceru just because at the time he accused creative, there was no other convincing case. Half the people in this game are inactive. It seems like a lot of players are afraid to say anything. But saying nothing is just plain bad for townie because we can only make educated lynches based off of what is posted here. If there is no conversation, there's no information. Lying low and not saying much is a good mafia strategy because it attracts less attention to themselves, especially if a lot of townies are also not saying anything. If they don't say anything, we have no basis to accuse them on. If you want townie to have any shot of winning, please be more proactive in talking, don't just wait for someone to say something "worth commenting on". That's just bad play. @Court34
Yeah. Because of my inactiveness, people might come to believe i'm mafia. Lynch me if you may, but i assure you, I am no Mafia. i'm a simple townie, trying to sruvive this madness. I don't have any suspicious yet, but people are starting to come to the eye. -
Date: Wed, May 14 2014 22:42:14
Court34 wrote: Yeah. Because of my inactiveness, people might come to believe i'm mafia. Lynch me if you may, but i assure you, I am no Mafia. i'm a simple townie, trying to sruvive this madness. I don't have any suspicious yet, but people are starting to come to the eye.
Dude..... your goal isn't to survive. Your goal is to find who the mafia is. Even if you survive till the end, you can still lose. Your goal is to survive till the end only if you're mafia. You are playing this game wrong if you are townie. So.... who is starting to 'come to the eye'. Please tell me. I don't really care for your vague statements. -
Date: Wed, May 14 2014 22:52:31
jet is playing like a townie who completely doesn't care about this game or a mafia who is trying to avoid drawing attention to himself. @Ceru Seiyu What do you think about Supergirl? What do you think about jet?
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Date: Wed, May 14 2014 22:57:13
If I recall correctly jet has only made a few posts. I have no idea about this guy. From what I can remember Ceru was mainly trying to get a lynch on creative saying how his "random vote" was absurd. Not much to say about these two.
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Date: Wed, May 14 2014 23:04:44
Supergirl wrote: If I recall correctly jet has only made a few posts. I have no idea about this guy. From what I can remember Ceru was mainly trying to get a lynch on creative saying how his "random vote" was absurd. Not much to say about these two.
Did you actually think creative's lynch was a good idea? How likely do you think a mafia was involved in pushing this bandwagon? Don't you think creative going against your idea of a random vote was an overly convenient excuse to lynch him, suggested by mafia? -
Date: Wed, May 14 2014 23:08:06
Supergirl wrote: If I recall correctly jet has only made a few posts. I have no idea about this guy. From what I can remember Ceru was mainly trying to get a lynch on creative saying how his "random vote" was absurd. Not much to say about these two.
Also what are your thoughts on jet, being a rather experienced player of mafia here on upsb, playing in a way that is very un-townlike? -
Date: Wed, May 14 2014 23:14:04
Also @ShadowParadox how do mafia decide on who to kill? Do all surviving members of the mafia need to be present in order for them to make a decision?
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Date: Wed, May 14 2014 23:40:15
Oui oui
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Date: Wed, May 14 2014 23:59:16
casual;282444]Did you actually think creative's lynch was a good idea? How likely do you think a mafia was involved in pushing this bandwagon? Don't you think creative going against your idea of a random vote was an overly convenient excuse to lynch him, suggested by mafia?[/QUOTE] Since creative turned out to be a townie of course it was a wrong vote. But was it a bad vote? I'm not so sure. Since intel from the roles revealed we get is quite useful. But in this case, creative turning out to be a townie doesn't really seem too useful. How likely was mafia involved in his lynch? Hmm hard to say. I mainly pointed out that his "random" vote was not random at all and mentioning other suspicions about him. It's not surprising that I may have convinced others that creative could be mafia, since there were hardly any other people posting to have suspicions of. Overly convenient excuse to lynch him? Perhaps. But we hardly had any reasons to lynch other people. [QUOTE=casual;282445]Also what are your thoughts on jet, being a rather experienced player of mafia here on upsb, playing in a way that is very un-townlike?[/QUOTE] I don't know. He's only made these 3 posts so far. [QUOTE=jet wrote: holyyyy shit i had two back to back ap tests today ill try my best to be active but i may be a bit slow this week x] yeah lets go for it idk lol not much to contribute here
I mean what's there to tell from these posts? Seems like he doesn't care enough about the game, or he's just sitting it out and letting us fight it all out. In a previous game he was a cop and he played his role, contributing when he has information. So I do have to agree that he is playing rather un-townie like. But of course, seems like a lot of players are also player rather untownie like by keeping quiet. -
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 00:00:37
are also playing*
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Date: Thu, May 15 2014 00:21:09
Supergirl wrote: Overly convenient excuse to lynch him? Perhaps. But we hardly had any reasons to lynch other people.
What are your thoughts on inactivity being a reason to lynch somebody? ------ It's true that jet is not the only inactive player. The key difference is his history. He knows better than to ignore the game completely as townie. Who are the other inactives? We have Court, who plays the same every game. We have Tentcell, who is completely mia from upsb (making him unlikely to be mafia if all 3 mafia members needed to be present to decide on who to kill). We have Shiftyei, who seems to be new to this so he might not know better. There is Laugh, whom I saw lurking this thread a few minutes ago without posting anything, which is rather suspicious. I am simply using the process of elimination. I am pretty convinced that there is at least 1 mafia within the pool of Supergirl, Ceru, and jet. There might be more than 1 mafia in this group. Among the lurkers, I think jet and Laugh are the most suspicious. -
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 00:21:58
i dunno now. i was sure that creative was a mafia, and now he's not =( the only suspicious people that i know of is Ceru, and (like I thought creative was doing) seems to be fueling the arguements. He was really one of the first to accuse someone (creative), even if that someone was a someone who accused Supergirl. i can't figure out jet because he doesn't talk at all, and court's been a bit inactive so i can't tell his deal
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Date: Thu, May 15 2014 00:30:24
casual wrote: What are your thoughts on inactivity being a reason to lynch somebody?
Being inactive can be a strategy for mafias to stay away from all the suspicions. Since there isn't really any reason to vote for someone who hasn't spoke, as that doesn't give you anything to suspect on. Other than the fact that their silence can become suspicious. So for all the silent players out there, why are you being silent? If it's not because that they are busy IRL or that they don't really know what to say since they're new, then they could be mafia. For the most post though, I think the mafias are the ones who posts like once or twice in a game day and then follows along with votes. -
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 00:54:11
casual;282276]What are your thoughts on creative and ceru?[/QUOTE] Ceru I'm not too sure. As you have already pointed out, he pretty much fueled the fight, which could be construed as suspicious, but I don't think there's enough to base a judgement on. [QUOTE=casual wrote: There is Laugh, whom I saw lurking this thread a few minutes ago without posting anything, which is rather suspicious. I am simply using the process of elimination. I am pretty convinced that there is at least 1 mafia within the pool of Supergirl, Ceru, and jet. There might be more than 1 mafia in this group. Among the lurkers, I think jet and Laugh are the most suspicious.
Ah I admit to lurking :P Sorry I have an AP test tomorrow and wanted to read the thread so I at least knew what was going on, even if I couldn't post. @Shiftyei what do you think of Supergirl? -
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 01:03:35
Shiftyei wrote: i dunno now. i was sure that creative was a mafia, and now he's not =( the only suspicious people that i know of is Ceru, and (like I thought creative was doing) seems to be fueling the arguements. He was really one of the first to accuse someone (creative), even if that someone was a someone who accused Supergirl. i can't figure out jet because he doesn't talk at all, and court's been a bit inactive so i can't tell his deal
Is 'fueling the fight' indicative of mafia? Keep in mind that mafia can win without fueling any fights, they have a nearly guaranteed nightkill for every day we have. The key here isn't that Ceru fueled an argument. Arguments are good for townie. Arguments result in information. The key is how good of a reason Ceru/Supergirl had for putting creative in the spotlight. Did they simply take advantage of the fact that creative did something that stood out from the crowd and bullshitted a reason to get him killed? -
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 01:12:44
casual wrote: Is 'fueling the fight' indicative of mafia? Keep in mind that mafia can win without fueling any fights, they have a nearly guaranteed nightkill for every day we have. The key here isn't that Ceru fueled an argument. Arguments are good for townie. Arguments result in information. The key is how good of a reason Ceru/Supergirl had for putting creative in the spotlight. Did they simply take advantage of the fact that creative did something that stood out from the crowd and bullshitted a reason to get him killed?
I think Ceru spurred the argument on. I wasn't even sure about voting for creative since I wanted to hear from other players first hence the reason why I was one of the last people to vote for creative. -
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 01:19:21
also it might be weird that mafia does not participate in the voting. People who voted: me, ceru, supergirl, laugh, shiftyei, creative. I feel like if Court were mafia, he would've voted. Idk, just a read on the kind of person I think he is. I will buy Laugh's ap testing excuse for now. Shiftyei, I'm not gonna write you off as townie just because you are new.
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Date: Thu, May 15 2014 01:31:41
It might be weird that mafia doesn't participate in the voting, but it is also plausible that there is no reason for a mafia to vote if there already are sufficient votes for a lynch. Haven't heard from Tentcell in a long time, and seems like no one is even mentioning him.
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Date: Thu, May 15 2014 01:34:28
The thing about Tentcell is that he's a rather active member of upsb. The fact that I haven't seen him around anywhere else suggests to me that he is not avoiding this game, but that he doesn't have time to go on upsb or something. I feel like Tentcell is not the kind of person to go completely mia if he were mafia.
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Date: Thu, May 15 2014 01:36:16
Also good to note that we are 5-3 right now. If we mislynch and doctor guesses wrong during the night, we lose.
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Date: Thu, May 15 2014 01:39:58
casual wrote: Is 'fueling the fight' indicative of mafia? Keep in mind that mafia can win without fueling any fights, they have a nearly guaranteed nightkill for every day we have. The key here isn't that Ceru fueled an argument. Arguments are good for townie. Arguments result in information. The key is how good of a reason Ceru/Supergirl had for putting creative in the spotlight. Did they simply take advantage of the fact that creative did something that stood out from the crowd and bullshitted a reason to get him killed?
Fueling the fight is not condemning in and of itself. Regarding cTreative, I don't think Ceru/Supergirl "put him on the spot". I think he did that to himself with his "random" vote. Also, keep in mind that "yesterday" we were really digging for something to grasp in order to make as educated as a lynch as possible. If that was the best we could find, then so be it. Lynches are good for townies. We need them. After missing a lynch the first day, fueling any fight to get a reasonable lynch could be attributed to desperation, but could also be indicative of mafia. -
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 01:44:14
Laugh wrote: Fueling the fight is not condemning in and of itself. Regarding cTreative, I don't think Ceru/Supergirl "put him on the spot". I think he did that to himself with his "random" vote. Also, keep in mind that "yesterday" we were really digging for something to grasp in order to make as educated as a lynch as possible. If that was the best we could find, then so be it. Lynches are good for townies. We need them. After missing a lynch the first day, fueling any fight to get a reasonable lynch could be attributed to desperation, but could also be indicative of mafia.
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Date: Thu, May 15 2014 02:37:42
Supergirl- the only reason I would think he's a part of the mafia would be because at first he wasn't posting like he did previous games (I'd read them while they were happening) with long theories and the like, but that's probably because nobody gave him material =) And by fueling the arguement, I don't mean just contributing to the whole deal. I think you put it superbly just then when you said he bullshat creative out of the game =) ceru and super both convinced me
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Date: Thu, May 15 2014 08:18:31
Him NOT turning out to be Mafia puts me in a terrible spot. At the time I just wanted to find something suspicious to work on rather than just going with a random vote which is even more dangerous at this stage in the game. @Tentcell Wth is going on, why are you not active, are you mafia?
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Date: Thu, May 15 2014 10:19:47
@casual what do you think of laugh, shiftyei, ceru, tent and jet?
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Date: Thu, May 15 2014 10:27:31
Ceru you wanted something suspicious last day to work on, is there anything so far in this day for you to work on?
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Date: Thu, May 15 2014 17:50:59
Supergirl wrote: what do you think of laugh, shiftyei, ceru, tent and jet?
I'm neutral on laugh, leaning slightly town, but not enough info. Shiftyei might be mafia. Seems eager to follow the lead of a few specific players. Ceru might be mafia, but I have nothing to base anything on besides the fact that he pushed creative rather conveniently. But given how little activity there was amongst townie, it could also be a townie being desperate to lynch someone so idk. I wish he'd talk more about other people. Seems like he was awfully focused on one person so far in this game. Perhaps that is another clue that he's mafia? Tent as I said earlier is town I think. Given that he is lacking in activity elsewhere in the forums as well, not just this game. Would he go so far as to cease all activity on upsb just to pull off some strategy in this game? I doubt it. jet is either mafia or the most useless townie ever. -
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 17:56:00
How much longer do we have to lynch anyways? My opinion hasn't changed that the 3 people most likely to be mafia are Supergirl, Ceru, and jet. I suggest we lynch one of the 3.
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Date: Thu, May 15 2014 17:59:46
@Court34 please participate. If you are townie, you are not helping us win.
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Date: Thu, May 15 2014 20:30:42
Well I think the following could be mafia. Laugh and shiftyei because they seem to go along with votes and not really involve themselves with the arguments. Which is what mafias would do. Ceru, similar situation to Laugh and Shiftyei, except ceru sort of spurred the argument on, in an attempt to solidify the vote. Jet seems to play his role well in previous mafia games. But this time round he has only made 3 posts so far which contributes nothing. So if he is a townie he should be helping the townies, which he isn't.
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Date: Thu, May 15 2014 21:53:49
@Ceru Seiyu What do you think about Supergirl?
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Date: Thu, May 15 2014 22:04:01
casual wrote: @Court34 please participate. If you are townie, you are not helping us win.
You might not believe me when i say i'm a townie, but i am. I don't Partcipiate as much because not many "jumping points" are in the conversation. Also, i was watching and reading and i have decided my final vote. I won't say it until the day is a few hours from over. -
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 22:10:43
casual wrote: @Ceru Seiyu What do you think about Supergirl?
Oh sorry I think he's adding too much to the discussion to be a mafia, as I said before he looks like he's starved of content rather than a completely different approach. Biggest thing I observed? Maybe Jet. Supergirl's choice's or Jet or tentcell look like possibles. That's 4 possibles, we have 3 mafia, 3/4 chance of hitting a mafia maybe if we decide that the rest are townies. We need to PROVE who are townies so thusly, the rest must not be townies. -
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 22:14:06
Court34 wrote: You might not believe me when i say i'm a townie, but i am. I don't Partcipiate as much because not many "jumping points" are in the conversation. Also, i was watching and reading and i have decided my final vote. I won't say it until the day is a few hours from over.
Why. What kind of logic makes you think withholding information from the rest of us is a good townie move. I don't get it. I'm not even accusing you of being mafia. I'm just saying, if you are townie like you are claiming to be, you should be contributing to the game to help us win. You're not doing that at all. Same goes for everyone else who isn't doing anything. If Ceru and Supergirl are both mafia, this game is unwinnable. -
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 22:19:11
Ceru Seiyu wrote: Oh sorry I think he's adding too much to the discussion to be a mafia, as I said before he looks like he's starved of content rather than a completely different approach. Biggest thing I observed? Maybe Jet. Supergirl's choice's or Jet or tentcell look like possibles. That's 4 possibles, we have 3 mafia, 3/4 chance of hitting a mafia maybe if we decide that the rest are townies. We need to PROVE who are townies so thusly, the rest must not be townies.
You know, he could be pulling some reverse phychology on us. He posts a lot ,to think that we won't even decide to vote to lynch him. -
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 22:21:44
Court34 wrote: You know, he could be pulling some reverse phychology on us. He posts a lot ,to think that we won't even decide to vote to lynch him.
Do you find Supergirl to be suspicious? -
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 22:28:41
I guess.
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Date: Thu, May 15 2014 22:31:13
Ceru Seiyu wrote: We need to PROVE who are townies so thusly, the rest must not be townies.
Is proving anything actually possible in this game without somebody dying? What needs to be happen for it to qualify as a "proof" that someone is mafia? -
Date: Thu, May 15 2014 22:32:48
Court34 wrote: I guess.
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Date: Thu, May 15 2014 22:42:02
Also some food for thought: I was targetted for night kill. Mafia probably saw me as a threat during day 2 and wanted me gone. Supergirl contributed a lot day 2 as well. Why me and not Supergirl? Was it purely because of chance? Who did I say I found the most suspicious during day 2? I thought Supergirl was the most suspicious. Were my suspicions going in the right direction, which made me seem like a bigger threat? Or is this a very well-thought out plan by mafia to improve the chances of a mislynch? It seems too perfect almost.
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Date: Thu, May 15 2014 23:05:45
My thoughts on supergirl is that he didn't involve himself at first (Maybe because nobody else posted?) as much as he did his last games =) He'd also be suspicious because of his activity by default. But I think casual has a good point because the day he survived the mafia, he wasn't as active as supergirl was. If I had to vote now I'd go with supergirl. Jet would be too much of a risk because he's so inactive. We should kill a mafia or two before taking out inactive people
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Date: Fri, May 16 2014 03:09:27
Well all that talking and I haven't voted yet. [B]Vote: Supergirl[/B]
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Date: Fri, May 16 2014 10:49:31
@casual You're kinda right. [B]Vote: Supergirl[/B]
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Date: Fri, May 16 2014 11:19:54
I've been playing as I've always been. Looking to see if anyone said anything that is suspicious and then following up on it. Some people are saying that I'm not as active as before. Why? I've got exams this week and next week, I've been busy. If you've notice in the shoutbox you would occasionally hear me talking about revising or completing an exam. Regardless, I've still been just as active as anyone else in my opinion. Some of you think that I pushed quite hard for the lynch on creative. I don't think so, if anyone it would be Ceru. I merely stated that creative's vote wasn't random. When creative denies this, I have to repeat myself and try to explain the same thing in a different way to creative to make him understand what I'm saying. So because I've been repeating myself to creative to further explain things I think this is why you guys think I pushed hard for his vote. But remember, I was one of the last people to vote for creative. In fact, I was reluctant to vote for him because I can understand his reasoning and really wanted to hear from other players first. This is what I see now. Learning from the results of killing Chobi on the first day, and the fact that Laugh pointed out that it is suspicious that I am still alive (which I have already explained to him possible reasons as to why I am still alive). And since casual also had his suspicions on me in day 2, the mafias wanted to use this to their advantage to turn you guys against me. I think that the mafias killed, or rather, attempted to kill casual is so that suspicions can be all drawn back to me, in hopes of a mislynch. I think that the day ends today, and I have an exam in 2 hours time and so I may not be on later so I'll make my vote now. Just look above, court34 decides to agree with casual and goes alone with the vote. And before this, he said that he already had a vote in mind but didn't want to reveal it yet. Why would you do this? If you have information on something then shouldn't you share it to your fellow townies to help them? As I said before, there's a high chance that the mafias are the ones that are lurking around, making a few posts a day, and then when the voting comes along they jump onto the bandwagon and follows with the votes. Therefore: [B]Vote: Court34[/B]
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Date: Fri, May 16 2014 14:04:24
:/ That defense. Now I don't know what to believe, but my ideal lynching pattern would be to kill Ceru, then if he's A mafia we could let supergirl live. Then court would be third.
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Date: Fri, May 16 2014 19:31:28
Shiftyei wrote: :/ That defense. Now I don't know what to believe, but my ideal lynching pattern would be to kill Ceru, then if he's A mafia we could let supergirl live. Then court would be third.
If we mislynch today, chances are we don't get another day. (unless doctor gets lucky) Give me a very convincing reason to lynch Ceru over Supergirl and I'll consider it. -
Date: Fri, May 16 2014 19:48:30
casual wrote: If we mislynch today, chances are we don't get another day. (unless doctor gets lucky) Give me a very convincing reason to lynch Ceru over Supergirl and I'll consider it.
I was the one who accused Creative and pushed for it, I'll throw my hands up there. Now that I'm wrong, I don't know why you're pointing fingers at supergirl, it WAS my fault :/ -
Date: Fri, May 16 2014 23:17:29
Hokay, keed ;) I think I'll vote Supergirl, because I'm suspicious of him, but I'm also a bit suspicious on Ceru. We also truly need a lynch. The only reason I don't want to kill Supergirl would be because he's one of the most active and I think that's really valuable; but we have a Casual at least and he's a confirmed townie. =) [B]Vote: Supergirl[/B]
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Date: Sat, May 17 2014 03:46:35
Ceru Seiyu wrote: I was the one who accused Creative and pushed for it, I'll throw my hands up there. Now that I'm wrong, I don't know why you're pointing fingers at supergirl, it WAS my fault :/
I am not voting for Supergirl because of the creative incident. True, your decision to lynch creative ended up being wrong, but that is not necessarily a sign that you are mafia. However, I feel like there are a lot of things that point to Supergirl being mafia, you'd get the gist of what they are by reading my posts in this game. Perhaps this is an elaborate ruse set up by mafia to try to mislynch Supergirl. But at this point I think that is a rather big stretch and I think it's the best that we have to work with currently. I mean at this point, where a mislynch means game over, would you rather vote for an inactive player out of a pool of them and rely on luck completely? I think if we were to do that, we should've done that on day 1. I think it's kinda too late to do that now. -
Date: Sat, May 17 2014 15:53:14
Hi everyone, sorry about not being active. I live in San Diego, and we almost had to evacuate for the brush fires that are going on. (I think we're okay now) Anyways, it is true that I have been very active in the past, so i guess it could seem suspicious. But like someone said, I've played quite a few of these on upsb (idk about experienced, that would be penwish lol) and I assure you if I were mafia I would be playing this a lot better than not speaking hahah I would be acting just like a townie because I know lurkers get lynched. I haven't had much to comment because we just seemed to want to do a random vote :/ it's not much to go off is all i was saying
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Date: Sat, May 17 2014 16:38:03
Super, i went along with casual because the vote in my head was you. I just didn't want to reveal it until i knew i really wanted to. Now, if you want to vote me, go on. Like casual said, one more misvote, and you probably don't get another day. So, vote me, when i get lynched, and i'm a townie, that's it. The Mafia will just kill off everyone and win.
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Date: Sat, May 17 2014 17:09:11
Alright! Day 3 has ended....no lynch. Night 3 has started...night 3 ends monday 19th may at 6:00. Note i have a feeling this will be the last day as since so little people are inactice u guys cant get lyjhes and it is easier for the mafia to win...so yh last day tomorrow
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Date: Sat, May 17 2014 17:13:11
Ceru's reluctance to vote for Supergirl is interesting. We still need 2 votes on him for a lynch. I have no idea when the deadline is, but it feels like it's pretty close now.
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Date: Sat, May 17 2014 17:13:45
.....oh.... ok >.>
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Date: Sat, May 17 2014 17:29:19
Dude days over...youre meant to be asleep, please dont post in this thread until day 4 starts
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Date: Mon, May 19 2014 18:50:16
Night 3 is over! @Tentcell Day 4 begins....gogogogogogogogisnownwbdoqbdboqbd!!!
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Date: Mon, May 19 2014 18:55:28
Woops forgot to post who died...shiftyei was killed by the mafia. He was a townie he is allowed one death rant
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Date: Mon, May 19 2014 21:40:23
Ok. I am truly believing that Ceru Seiyu is mafia.
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Date: Mon, May 19 2014 23:34:43
Loved tis game! Court, Super, and Ceru I think should be prime suspects ;) Have fun! Love and peace! Except in this game =) have a good one!!
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Date: Tue, May 20 2014 01:15:53
Shiftyei wrote: Loved tis game! Court, Super, and Ceru I think should be prime suspects ;) Have fun! Love and peace! Except in this game =) have a good one!!
Thank you! This is an ideal death rant. As well as @cTreative_'s. I thank you sincerely. These are exemplary, short, simple and not too revealing -
Date: Tue, May 20 2014 12:36:30
Zen wrote: Thank you! This is an ideal death rant. As well as @cTreative_'s. I thank you sincerely. These are exemplary, short, simple and not too revealing
Sorry for posting here, I know I'm dead, but I have to say this: Thanks, Zen! -
Date: Wed, May 21 2014 03:30:42
well we really need to lynch someone now lol
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Date: Wed, May 21 2014 03:57:15
[B]Vote: Supergirl[/B] Let's see if there are enough active townies to even get a majority!
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Date: Wed, May 21 2014 06:59:59
Ok i have made the decision to remove tentcell from the game as he has been extremely inactive. Sorry bud but u being inactive is not helping anyone.
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Date: Wed, May 21 2014 07:00:44
6 alive 4 to lynch
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Date: Wed, May 21 2014 12:49:05
NOTICE: i have replaced tentcell with xzeria and so their are now 7 members active.
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Date: Thu, May 22 2014 02:44:34
[B]Vote: Supergirl[/B] This is now my main suspect
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Date: Thu, May 22 2014 03:39:47
casual;282466]You voted Supergirl yesterday. What are your thoughts on him now? Who are your primary suspects?[/QUOTE] Now? I'm not sure. I want to hear a little more from him, although this silence is a little strange from one of the former most active players. There is a lot of testing going on though, so I'll wait some more. Primary suspects? I guess just Supergirl from previous days. Why? Earlier I believe you said you were very suspicious of Ceru: [QUOTE=Court34;282734]Ok. I am truly believing that Ceru Seiyu is mafia.[/QUOTE] Just as a side note: [QUOTE=Supergirl;282539] Learning from the results of killing Chobi on the first day, and the fact that Laugh pointed out that it is suspicious that I am still alive (which I have already explained to him possible reasons as to why I am still alive).[/QUOTE] I actually am a girl XD [QUOTE=casual wrote: Also some food for thought: I was targetted for night kill. Mafia probably saw me as a threat during day 2 and wanted me gone. Supergirl contributed a lot day 2 as well. Why me and not Supergirl? Was it purely because of chance? Who did I say I found the most suspicious during day 2? I thought Supergirl was the most suspicious. Were my suspicions going in the right direction, which made me seem like a bigger threat?
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Date: Thu, May 22 2014 09:02:08
Meh discussion aside can we even get enough votes? I am pretty sure both Supergirl and Ceru are mafia at this point. Ceru cuz of how unwilling he was to vote Supergirl, to the point where we ended up lynching nobody. Obv mafia buddy. @Xzeria Whatever you do, please vote before the end of this game day. If a single townie does not vote, we automatically lose. Honestly I was gonna just not play but since Tentcell was replaced at least we aren't guaranteed to lose.... yet.
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Date: Thu, May 22 2014 10:27:34
@casual yes I will vote. Theres plenty of time scince it ends saturday at 6.00. And I'm not being active because I'm asleep, time zones ya' know.
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Date: Fri, May 23 2014 03:09:46
casual wrote: why didn't you vote? Your lack of voting was detrimental to townie. And you seem to be playing it off like it was nothing. Court seems to be mafia's scapegoat right now, the way I see it. At least he voted. That makes him significantly more town than you.
I didn't vote because I didn't have access to internet before the day was over. I realize we lost a lynch, and for that I apologize. I am playing it off like it's nothing because in the whole scheme of life this game really is next to nothing. Court seems to be the mafia scapegoat how? From what I see, @Supergirl had some valid reasoning, and Court's actions just don't make sense. However, we do really need a lynch, and Supergirl isn't responding, so [B]Vote: Supergirl[/B] -
Date: Fri, May 23 2014 06:55:47
Vote: Supergirl might as well lynch i guess
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Date: Fri, May 23 2014 16:27:37
4 lynches for supergirl @jet and @the other guy sorry i forgot
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Date: Fri, May 23 2014 16:41:53
Seems like my death is imminent. I leave this world with many regrets. My loss of family, loss of friends, and mostly importantly my loss of my significant other. To die at such a young age is a shame. There's been many a things that I have yet to try, and now it seems I will not be able to. Life is such a funny game. See you on the otherside creative.
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Date: Fri, May 23 2014 16:48:26
I don't want to leave this world ;(
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Date: Fri, May 23 2014 16:53:48
Supergirl wrote: Seems like my death is imminent. I leave this world with many regrets. My loss of family, loss of friends, and mostly importantly my loss of my significant other. To die at such a young age is a shame. There's been many a things that I have yet to try, and now it seems I will not be able to. Life is such a funny game. See you on the otherside creative.
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Date: Fri, May 23 2014 16:59:24
Hes not dead yet...
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Date: Fri, May 23 2014 17:09:54
Zen wrote: Another good one. Thanks guys! THIS is the type of death rants i want.
I still get a death rant after I actually die right? Since this doesn't really count as I haven't died yet. -
Date: Fri, May 23 2014 17:30:59
Supergirl wrote: I still get a death rant after I actually die right? Since this doesn't really count as I haven't died yet.
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Date: Fri, May 23 2014 17:56:59
Supergirl wrote: I still get a death rant after I actually die right? Since this doesn't really count as I haven't died yet.
if you are mafia -
Date: Fri, May 23 2014 18:57:17
My bad i thought this was a death rant. Oh lol i just noticed you are not dead yet. LOL. Sorry my bad i thought for sure you were dead sorry
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Date: Sat, May 24 2014 00:39:34
I haven't been on the board at all, I actually missed casting a final vote, else I would have done it to get supergirl last time around. I'm not 100% but at this point whatever need to do something. [B]Vote: Supergirl[/B]
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Date: Sat, May 24 2014 02:21:30
Hey, uh shadow, i'm the other guy.
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Date: Sat, May 24 2014 02:54:00
Court34 wrote: Hey, uh shadow, i'm the other guy.
:facepalm: seriously? No you are not the other guy. YOU voted for Ceru Seiyu. sigh. Come on man. -
Date: Sat, May 24 2014 14:33:23
My time has come.
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Date: Sat, May 24 2014 15:30:22
Dude. I chaged my vote if you haven't noticed. If you want it again. [B]Vote: Supergirl[/B]
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Date: Sat, May 24 2014 19:01:57
Days ended supergirl is lynched. Night starts and ends on monday @ 6:00
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Date: Mon, May 26 2014 19:42:29
Night 4 has ended! @Xzeria Supergirl was lynched. He was a mafia goon Court34 was killed by the mafia he was a townie Both are allowed one death rant. Day 5 starts Gogogo!!!
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Date: Mon, May 26 2014 19:45:32
Btw sorry for the delay...i was really busy. Day ends on thursday @6:00 but i might add some extra time for last minute votes
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Date: Mon, May 26 2014 19:50:23
Well. The mafia were scared of my swagy swag. Just Kidding. Casual, it's up to you babe.
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Date: Mon, May 26 2014 21:23:21
Court34 wrote: Well. The mafia were scared of my swagy swag. Just Kidding. Casual, it's up to you babe.
This is gay Also i just want to say, Great job ShadowParadox! Even though this is your first host you did a nice job. :clap: -
Date: Tue, May 27 2014 13:13:52
Wow! We haven't lost yet! [B]Vote: Ceru Seiyu[/B] Seemed overly reluctant to vote for Supergirl. Before that, he seemed overly defensive of Supergirl whenever I accused him. Of course, there's his successful bandwagon on creative early on in the game, plus his later attempt to bandwagon tentcell. I'll interpret it as his being mafia, regardless of his defense of not being on upsb or whatever. I'm not buying it. @Xzeria I want to hear your thoughts. If you have a different lynch in mind, I want to hear your justifications. And be sure to vote before the deadline.
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Date: Tue, May 27 2014 13:21:54
Assuming I'm right and Ceru is mafia, one of Laugh, jet, and Xzeria are mafia. Out of these people, I am the least suspicious of Xzeria purely because of how Tentcell played. However, it worries me that Xzeria did not vote yesterday. I would like an explanation. I am the most suspicious of jet because of a few reasons: 1) Supergirl and Ceru both seemed against my accusations of jet early on 2) despite being basically inactive the entire game, he has somehow conveniently stuck to the game just barely. It might be a sign that he's just coming on to decide on the night kills or something. And that makes Laugh come in the middle. I've been leaning slightly town on her the entire game, but I really have no strong opinions on her position. Ofc, I would like to lynch Ceru first. I am just generating some discussion for the next day in case I am night killed.
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Date: Tue, May 27 2014 13:27:36
Tho on further thought I guess I haven't been night killed most likely because mafia is trying to nail the doctor. lol
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Date: Tue, May 27 2014 14:28:25
Ok, I'll explain myself. I've been kinda sick, had a cold so that's why I haven't been active, all my energy has been going to studying because I have a few test this week. I'm mostly done now so I'll have more time to post stuff here, I did read up on everything during the weekend so I'm mostly up do date on everything. I didn't vote yesterday because court "changed" his mind, there was no need for me to vote cuz it wouldn't matter. I would have voted for Sg to get a lynch if he didn't do it though.
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Date: Wed, May 28 2014 16:38:51
Ok we need to get this going. So casual, do you wanna try to get a lynch on ceru? He's a litle suspicious, but I'd allmost say you're even more. Tell me why I shouldn't vote for you to get lynched. Anyways we need info. @casual
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Date: Wed, May 28 2014 17:19:47
Reichenbach shall fall! A formidable player you are casual. Which does not strike me as unusual. I am dead. Which is something I dread. A great game this has been. This will not be the last of me that you will have seen. Reichenbach shall make you crawl!
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Date: Wed, May 28 2014 17:39:42
Supergirl wrote: Reichenbach shall fall! A formidable player you are casual. Which does not strike me as unusual. I am dead. Which is something I dread. A great game this has been. This will not be the last of me that you will have seen. Reichenbach shall make you crawl!
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Date: Wed, May 28 2014 21:54:07
If I was mafia you'd have lost by now. Why would I provide the vote that tips the tide and lynches supergirl if I was mafia, when keeping him alive because everyone is slow to vote would be the best option as mafia. This doesn't make sense at all, if I'm mafia why wouldn't I just let him live?
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Date: Thu, May 29 2014 03:12:09
Again, I am not mafia lol I would not be inactive enough to arise suspicion like I unfortunately have been :/
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Date: Thu, May 29 2014 03:13:38
Ceru you could have seen that supergirl was already done for and wanted to keep suspicion off of yourself by voting him...just saying
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Date: Thu, May 29 2014 03:16:57
I feel like Casual is being really proactive this game like I was last game, so I would be very suprised if he was mafia. If so, that would be the greatest play ever O_O I'm down to vote Ceru; I think he's shady af [B]Vote: Ceru Seiyu[/B]
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Date: Thu, May 29 2014 08:38:13
jet wrote: Ceru you could have seen that supergirl was already done for and wanted to keep suspicion off of yourself by voting him...just saying
But... he wasn't. It was only my vote that killed him because you guys were missing one. I alao got the blame for not voting due to being busy the othwr day but hell I definitely wasn't the only one, now I do actually get the time to vote you're singling me out. If you're going to blame people on delayed votes why don't you target the guys who never did? There are way better candidates than me and this just isn't adding up. -
Date: Thu, May 29 2014 11:30:13
@Xzeria Dude guys... I'm confirmed pro-town.... as seen by Shadowparadox's slipup at the end of day 2..... And yes I want Ceru lynched. I feel like he was excessively teaming with Supergirl. Afaik that makes him the most suspicious out of everyone. Unless you guys have someone better in mind.
Ceru Seiyu wrote: I alao got the blame for not voting due to being busy the othwr day but hell I definitely wasn't the only one, now I do actually get the time to vote you're singling me out. If you're going to blame people on delayed votes why don't you target the guys who never did? There are way better candidates than me and this just isn't adding up.
It isn't that you didn't vote. It's that you were visibly reluctant to vote for someone who had a legitimate case on him (Supergirl) and favoring a lynch on someone who was irrelevant to the game to the degree that the chances of him being mafia are close to nil (Tentcell). -
Date: Thu, May 29 2014 12:00:12
Ceru Seiyu wrote: If I was mafia you'd have lost by now. Why would I provide the vote that tips the tide and lynches supergirl if I was mafia, when keeping him alive because everyone is slow to vote would be the best option as mafia.
Untrue. At the point you voted, there were already 4 votes on Supergirl with 7 active players total. He was already supposed to be lynched and your vote was inconsequential. Seems like you are trying to bend the facts to get out of your current bind. @jet Your defense is valid only based on the assumption that you really would be more active if you were mafia. I really don't know that do I? Tentcell(Xzeria) has a much higher chance of being townie by that line of logic, he has traditionally been even more active than you are, but this game he has completely neglected upsb, not just this thread. So that leaves Laugh. How are you less suspicious than Laugh? -
Date: Thu, May 29 2014 13:29:16
Ceru Seiyu wrote: But... he wasn't. It was only my vote that killed him because you guys were missing one. I alao got the blame for not voting due to being busy the othwr day but hell I definitely wasn't the only one, now I do actually get the time to vote you're singling me out. If you're going to blame people on delayed votes why don't you target the guys who never did? There are way better candidates than me and this just isn't adding up.
It is entirely possible -- even probable-- that you knew Supergirl had no chance of surviving and could be using it now as your defense. Last game when I was mafia we planned to do the same thing: choose one mafioso to accuse and lynch and bank off of that to seem town. I don't think your not voting is the main issue here... I think what really makes you the most suspicious was your reluctance to vote Supergirl two days ago, when he wasn't really in danger of being lynched. His turning out to be mafia isn't really good for your town image. Your voting the other day is irrelevant to this because if you had known Supergirl wasn't going to survive the best thing to do is vote and use it as your defense. Which could be exactly what you're doing. I have finals coming up so if I don't get a chance to vote before the deadline: [B]Vote Ceru Seiyu[/B] -
Date: Thu, May 29 2014 13:41:44
Looks like that's 3 votes on Ceru and a majority. A last quip of mine before shadow ends the day: it will be the best interest for townies if everyone claims their roles the next day if there is one. It will give us more info to work with, and there's no drawback because the next day will be the last day (if we make it to the next day)
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Date: Thu, May 29 2014 14:02:22
Humm, yes I agree, even though you have majority whatever. [B]Vote: Ceru Seiyu[/B]
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Date: Thu, May 29 2014 19:10:42
Day 5 is over night 5 begins....ceru seiyu was lynched Night phase ends saturday @6:00
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Date: Thu, May 29 2014 19:11:16
Sorry for late closure, i was at swimming
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Date: Sat, May 31 2014 17:22:56
Night 5 is over! @Xzeria Day 6 begins. Ceru seiyu was lynched: he was a mafia goon Laugh was killed by the mafia: she was a doctor Both are allowed 1 death rant. Last day today. Day ends on tuesday @6:00 good luck. 3 alive 2 to lynch gogogo!!!
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Date: Sun, Jun 1 2014 01:25:25
Ahh so Laugh was doctor.... that simplifies things a bit I guess. So before I place a vote on jet to end this game, let's follow through with my proposed claiming of our roles. I wonder if there is a cop.... Basically say what role you are and state why you are less likely to be mafia than the other party. I'll start: I am vanilla townie. I can't possibly be mafia because mafia tried to night kill me at the end of day 2. @Xzeria
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Date: Sun, Jun 1 2014 02:04:41
Good game guys!! It was definitely fun. Yes it's a good thing I was killed; I was worried when casual suggested we claim roles that someone would make a false claim as doctor. But now y'all know who the doctor is, townies you have a chance!! Listen to casual and please win this thing. It's been fun. Until next time.
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Date: Sun, Jun 1 2014 06:59:51
I am also a vanilla townie, contrary to what casual thinks :/ The case probably isn't strong for me since I haven't been on that often. However, I think I have pretty good reason. I've been really busy because of AP tests and because I kind of burnt out after two straight games in a row. There were also fires that I had to prepare to evacuate for (I live in San Diego like i said b4). As for evidence of why I am not mafia: 1) I voted Supergirl for the lynch, and he turned out to be a mafia goon. If you are thinking that I was just voting him because he was already dead and I needed to get trust, I was second to vote for him, so I can't possibly have been mafia. 2) I was also down to vote for Ceru Seiyu, who was also a mafia goon. Again, I was second to vote. On the other hand, Xzeria has to be mafia: 1) First of all, Xzeria has been just as, if not even more inactive as I have been. I had a couple of intermittent posts, but Xzeria hasn't posted at all until the last few crucial days. 2) He did not vote for Supergirl, since he did not want to lynch a fellow mafia member 3) He tacked on a vote AFTER we had a majority on Ceru Seiyu to avoid suspicion I am pretty sure casual is not mafia because the mafia tried to lynch him and he has been pretty active this game. @casual I want to win this game; please make the right vote
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Date: Sun, Jun 1 2014 10:01:38
[QUOTE=jet;283289]I am also a vanilla townie, contrary to what casual thinks :/ The case probably isn't strong for me since I haven't been on that often. However, I think I have pretty good reason. I've been really busy because of AP tests and because I kind of burnt out after two straight games in a row. There were also fires that I had to prepare to evacuate for (I live in San Diego like i said b4). As for evidence of why I am not mafia: 1) I voted Supergirl for the lynch, and he turned out to be a mafia goon. If you are thinking that I was just voting him because he was already dead and I needed to get trust, I was second to vote for him, so I can't possibly have been mafia. 2) I was also down to vote for Ceru Seiyu, who was also a mafia goon. Again, I was second to vote. On the other hand, Xzeria has to be mafia: 1) First of all, Xzeria has been just as, if not even more inactive as I have been. I had a couple of intermittent posts, but Xzeria hasn't posted at all until the last few crucial days. 2) He did not vote for Supergirl, since he did not want to lynch a fellow mafia member 3) He tacked on a vote AFTER we had a majority on Ceru Seiyu to avoid suspicion I am pretty sure casual is not mafia because the mafia tried to lynch him and he has been pretty active this game. @casual I won't be defending myself much more because I'm innocent, I'm a townie and lynch me if you want to lose.
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Date: Sun, Jun 1 2014 11:07:05
Just gonna say that I was actually the majority voter because court34 had a vote on me and changed it after Zen told him I voted. I think with mistakes like that we are still going to win the game. Good luck townies :::[B];[/B])
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Date: Sun, Jun 1 2014 21:41:57
You know, if I were to look at Xzeria's plays alone without considering that he replaced Tentcell, I'd say Xzeria is more suspicious than jet. While voting for Supergirl/Ceru in both days wouldn't have made any difference, it's not about the results but about the timing and what it says about the voter. Xzeria's non-votes/late votes can be interpreted as him not having time to vote before we have reached a majority, being overly cautious as townie, or being mafia who is reluctant to vote for his teammates. But then Tentcell being townie was pretty much what I stuck by the entire game. Supergirl and Ceru both seemed kinda reluctant when I was very for lynching jet near the start of the game and both suggested Tentcell as a better lynch candidate. If their play is consistent, it seems as though jet is way more likely to be mafia. Also I'm not sure if jet's increased activity at the end has to do with his real life calming down a bit or if it's indicative of his role, how he probably can't get by just lurking at this stage in the game if he were mafia. Seeing as though more discussion probably won't yield much more info, I will vote now. I think I will interpret Xzeria's play as being overly cautious rather than as being mafia. [B]Vote: jet[/B]
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Date: Mon, Jun 2 2014 03:00:04
You're making the wrong vote :/ Well played Xzeria
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Date: Mon, Jun 2 2014 03:04:31
My decision has nothing to do with what Xzeria did. It's purely based on what Tentcell did.
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Date: Mon, Jun 2 2014 04:31:40
okay dude
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Date: Mon, Jun 2 2014 06:19:43
Gosh, good that you understand, I was worried that jet would manage to convince you that I was a mafia because I fcked up those votes. Good that it worked out in the end at least. GG&WP Everyone. [B]Vote: jet[/B] By the way the timedifference is such a pain this day because you guys and I live on like the opposite side of the planet.
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Date: Mon, Jun 2 2014 18:55:46
@ShadowParadox We have a majority.
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Date: Mon, Jun 2 2014 18:57:03
:noface: wait for the end of the day @casual
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Date: Mon, Jun 2 2014 19:03:00
oh my bad, i thought the day ends the moment there's a majority
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Date: Mon, Jun 2 2014 19:08:15
@ShadowParadox. That's it the game is over. You end the day when there is a lynch. What do you mean no?
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Date: Mon, Jun 2 2014 19:23:55
@Zen this is my first game hosting...i dont know what to do. But if we end here we end here. Jet is lynched
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Date: Mon, Jun 2 2014 19:24:27
He is a townie. Mafia win!
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Date: Mon, Jun 2 2014 19:43:58
In my opinion. Tentcell should have been a little more active. Or he should have been switched out quickly. @ShadowParadox if you want you can host the next game. Next game should be in one or two months. We should rake a break from this. Next game i am playing.
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Date: Mon, Jun 2 2014 19:45:59
Zen wrote: In my opinion. Tentcell should have been a little more active. Or he should have been switched out quickly. @ShadowParadox if you want you can host the next game. Next game should be in one or two months. We should rake a break from this. Next game i am playing.
Sure ill host again, ill try to make less mistakes next tine XD. zen i dont get....casual lynched jet, jet is a townie the mafia won not the townies -
Date: Mon, Jun 2 2014 19:48:59
Yeah i know @casual
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Date: Mon, Jun 2 2014 19:51:42
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
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Date: Mon, Jun 2 2014 21:14:13
ahhh dangit i was so sure Tentcell wasn't mafia too >< well the game started off really slowly and it was annoying that townies went no-lynch for so many days but at least the game got interesting near the end. thankful for shadow's reveal of my attempted kill, cuz I took advantage of my confirmed townie status as much as i could :P
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Date: Mon, Jun 2 2014 21:38:03
casual wrote: ahhh dangit i was so sure Tentcell wasn't mafia too >< well the game started off really slowly and it was annoying that townies went no-lynch for so many days but at least the game got interesting near the end. thankful for shadow's reveal of my attempted kill, cuz I took advantage of my confirmed townie status as much as i could :P
You played well in figuring out that me and ceru were both mafias. Props to you mate. -
Date: Tue, Jun 3 2014 03:23:56
Yeah I kind of gave up in the end because casual was so dead set on me being mafia...even though i felt that Xzeria played a lot more suspiciously ._.
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Date: Tue, Jun 3 2014 03:33:59
i was seriously waiting for that plot twist "casual is mafia" dun dun duuuuuun!! oh wells xD Frog~
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Date: Tue, Jun 3 2014 05:40:50
Ugh I played so bad in the end. x.x
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Date: Tue, Jun 3 2014 07:04:53
Alright...well done games up. Once again thank you @Zen for helping with thr hosting. Good game everyone and thank u for making it to the end. I will post in thr mafia sign upsbthread a couple months from now. So until next time...
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Date: Tue, Jun 3 2014 07:12:52
Xzeria wrote: Ugh I played so bad in the end. x.x
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Date: Tue, Jun 3 2014 12:26:49
cTreative_ wrote: I bet the mafia are Supergirl and Ceru Seiyu.
Super and Ceru acted real suspicious from the very start, but Xzeria... ...your strat to keep silent until the end won you the game. Well played, mafia. Next time we should have replacements if a player doesn't post in 24h, that would make the keeping silent strategy almost obsolete. Can't wait for the other mafia game. -
Date: Wed, Jun 4 2014 02:28:09
Well here's my death rant: @casual
But seriously, casual you played a fantastic game, gg to everyone -
Date: Wed, Jun 4 2014 02:36:04
jet wrote: Well here's my death rant: But seriously, casual you played a fantastic game, gg to everyone
Haha sorry about that. I was so convinced that Tentcell wasn't mafia that no matter what Xzeria did I probably wouldn't have voted for him anyways. -
Date: Wed, Jun 4 2014 19:05:05
Zen wrote: This is gay Also i just want to say, Great job ShadowParadox! Even though this is your first host you did a nice job. :clap:
This was kinda rude. -
Date: Wed, Jun 4 2014 19:14:17
jet wrote: Well here's my death rant: @casual http://i.imgur.com/3mLydMU.png But seriously, casual you played a fantastic game, gg to everyone
I am in love with that pic looool -
Date: Wed, Jun 4 2014 19:55:05
Supergirl wrote: This was kinda rude.
Lol. I was replying to Court34 and his comment. -
Date: Wed, Jun 4 2014 20:35:19
Zen wrote: Lol. I was replying to Court34 and his comment.
I know. -
Date: Wed, Jun 4 2014 20:46:06
Supergirl wrote: I know.
lol. Well we know each other in real life so, he knows i am just joking. It is more of an inside joke -
Date: Wed, Jun 4 2014 21:23:11
Zen wrote: lol. Well we know each other in real life so, he knows i am just joking. It is more of an inside joke
I know Supergirl in real life? Yes! XD...*insert creepy emoticon here* -
Date: Sun, Jul 27 2014 18:45:26
Zen wrote: lol. Well we know each other in real life so, he knows i am just joking. It is more of an inside joke
knowing him IRL doesn't give you a pass to be a dick to him. -
Date: Sun, Jul 27 2014 18:59:35
Monk wrote: knowing him IRL doesn't give you a pass to be a dick to him.
Sigh I am sick and tired of you criticizing me on the board. Number one: Why the hell are you even replying to this thread? It has been like two months since anyone has posted. And you weren't even playing the game, so why are you posting here? Second, as I explained it was a JOKE, and he knows it was a joke too, we talked about it. It was between us, I don't see why you have to butt in and tell me how to act with my friends. Please don't lecture me. I know my faults. We have been friends for years, he does the same to me, not here obviously. -
Date: Sun, Jul 27 2014 19:15:50
Zen wrote: Sigh I am sick and tired of you criticizing me on the board. Number one: Why the hell are you even replying to this thread? It has been like two months since anyone has posted. And you weren't even playing the game, so why are you posting here? Second, as I explained it was a JOKE, and he knows it was a joke too, we talked about it. It was between us, I don't see why you have to butt in and tell me how to act with my friends. Please don't lecture me. I know my faults. We have been friends for years, he does the same to me, not here obviously.
I'm in the thread because i singed up you twat. The reason you're being lectured is obviously because you make several mistakes that you are barely aware of. Anyone with enough common sense would get sick of the way you're treating court. "this is how i usually act to him, so he understands" Don't shit with me, humiliating and making fun of him (several times) in the board isn't how you treat him -
Date: Sun, Jul 27 2014 20:32:09
Alright calm down.
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Date: Mon, Jul 28 2014 01:53:12
Whatever, I am going to be the mature one here, and agree to disagree. Also just because you signed up doesn't entitle you to post in a previous games thread, dumbass. You signed up for the recent one. Anyway reported your post, don't post here unless you have something to say pertaining to the game Also let the record show he was the instigator.
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Date: Mon, Jul 28 2014 06:17:31
Zen wrote: Whatever, I am going to be the mature one here, and agree to disagree. Also just because you signed up doesn't entitle you to post in a previous games thread, dumbass. You signed up for the recent one. Anyway reported your post, don't post here unless you have something to say pertaining to the game Also let the record show he was the instigator.
LOL "I'm mature" >then calls me a dumbass You seem belligerent for someone who tries to end a "conflict". Furthermore, you're basically saying, "since we caught the murder who did the crime a year ago, we don't need to send him to court" Its funny how you try to report someone trying to do the right thing. Please try swallowing some pride. -
Date: Mon, Jul 28 2014 08:42:35
I don't know what kind of boring friends you have but banter with my own friends goes a lot further than that and it's clear that court34 is not bothered by it at all. How dare you tell him how he should and should not act with his friends, especially when he made it clear before and court34 is not complaining. Also this is not 4chan you moron stop trying to greentext, if makes you look even more like a twat when we don't have a greentext feature. Take your pseudo intellectual bullshit and leave.
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Date: Mon, Jul 28 2014 09:09:04
ALRIGHT CALM DOWN
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Date: Mon, Jul 28 2014 13:48:08
Sigh seriously @Monk? What happened to your original point? Furthermore, If you had read what I posted I said, I would be the mature one [B]here[/B]. Since, I know you would keep going, and waste both our times having a pointless argument. And what "right thing" pray tell are you doing exactly? Starting a (one sided) argument in the Mafia game thread, in the Games section of a Pen spinning board. Seriously though, if you want to make an argument, stick to your original point, changing your argument makes you look weak. Again don't post here, otherwise i am going to have to close the thread. And i have that power, as game host.
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Date: Mon, Jul 28 2014 16:24:18
this has gotten off topic and there isnt even a need to continue using this thread. /closed