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Advanced Tricks / Hardest trick to learn/master?

  1. FFtournesol
    Date: Mon, Sep 6 2010 12:21:55

    I'm new in PSing and I want to know the hard tricks so I can work up on it... Shadow and palm spin is pretty hard ^_^

  2. ukiya
    Date: Mon, Sep 6 2010 13:24:05

    hai tua.u can try it.that is hard trick

  3. CaptainGolfBall
    Date: Mon, Sep 6 2010 16:08:23

    Definitely The Hai Tua and Twisted Cobra Bite are 2 of the hardest tricks to learn. Also, try and learn how to do Twisted Sonic BUSTS. The Twisted Sonic is the easy part, but the busting is when it gets tough.

  4. Pen
    Date: Mon, Sep 6 2010 16:25:15

    Charge Reverse maybe only because a lot of people thought that fundamental was hard.

  5. Enkronidus
    Date: Mon, Sep 6 2010 16:36:36

    ThumbAround Reverse. ... Hey, I'm serious! =(

  6. Jamal
    Date: Mon, Sep 6 2010 16:52:21

    Thumbaround

  7. MaSter_MiND_
    Date: Mon, Sep 6 2010 16:56:01

    Twisted Sonic Double Bust. Urgh practicing this combo for more than one year and I did not master it already.

  8. papa happy
    Date: Mon, Sep 6 2010 17:00:57

    MaSter_MiND_ wrote: Twisted Sonic Double Bust. Urgh practicing this combo for more than one year and I did not master it already.
    im with you on that one!!! ive only been spinning for about 3 months now and i can not bust more then once:( i know im new, but dam! lol

  9. chili pepper
    Date: Mon, Sep 6 2010 17:51:59

    dragonaround or Ayatori throw are probably the hardest. ayatori throw: http://forum.upsb.info/showthread.php?t=702

  10. spinnerhui
    Date: Tue, Sep 7 2010 23:44:53

    Hai Tua, Spreads, Ayatori, Twisted Sonic continuous bust (I just managed to double bust after 3 months of trying (only halfheartedly though))

  11. Kris5k5
    Date: Wed, Sep 8 2010 09:05:31

    multiple hai tuas, twisted cobra bite, ayatori throw are hard twisted sonic multiple bust are not that hard just get the timing

  12. FFtournesol
    Date: Wed, Sep 8 2010 11:03:46

    so whats your average learning time?

  13. Darealone
    Date: Wed, Sep 8 2010 15:00:18

    Uhhhh...palm spins were really easy for me dude...but i hate double busts...or busting in general

  14. reyereen
    Date: Wed, Sep 8 2010 21:32:36

    thumbaround , im serious :/ i learned thumbaround about a month when the first time i knew penspinning , and i learned hai tua just 2-4 daays :/

  15. Jedj
    Date: Wed, Sep 8 2010 22:13:15

    Hardest trick to master? I'd say fingerpass. Getting it to be smooth is qwuite hard.

  16. KTrinh93
    Date: Wed, Sep 8 2010 23:22:50

    Why did no one say Palmspin > FL TA cont? that's by far the hardest trick to learn for me. Busting is a pain too but at least I can do 4-5 =/ I can't do more than 3 Palmspin > FL TAs in a row. Switch spread is also pretty tough for me. I'm having flexibility problems with the FL MA 0.5 > Ring Spread part.

  17. Kirby
    Date: Thu, Sep 9 2010 01:47:46

    reverse charge. definitely.

  18. ScaringChildren
    Date: Thu, Sep 9 2010 02:14:41

    Fingerpass/fingerpass rev. are pretty hard to get at a decent speed while still being smooth.

  19. mintypaladin
    Date: Thu, Sep 9 2010 03:31:23

    power tricks in general thai style can land in a pile of shit and shit in the large pile of shit and throw that pile of shit on power tricks

  20. RR24
    Date: Thu, Sep 9 2010 04:00:53

    spreads i cant even get 2 good busting for me was pretty easy lol i can do 3 - 5 reliably lol

  21. FFtournesol
    Date: Thu, Sep 9 2010 11:21:48

    any good palmspin tips?

  22. Gr3gY
    Date: Thu, Sep 9 2010 12:36:15

    FFtournesol wrote: any good palmspin tips?
    minwoo's tut [video=youtube;r7QtrPhJaus]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7QtrPhJaus[/video] and personally i think double bust is fucking hard -.-

  23. superk777
    Date: Thu, Sep 9 2010 16:53:26

    For me Busting is really hard, most i can do is 5, that was only like 7 times i done it. on average i do around 2-3. 5 if lucky. Busting is da hardest trick so far for me... took me 9 weeks 2 get 5 busts...

  24. Bat Chigger
    Date: Fri, Sep 10 2010 03:35:06

    finger pass & fingerpass rev. quite hard to get a decent speed and smooth passes. >.>

  25. FFtournesol
    Date: Fri, Sep 10 2010 06:12:09

    why does it not spin on the palm? I am releasing it right.:(

  26. sta812
    Date: Fri, Sep 10 2010 11:35:11

    for me , pinky spreads =[

  27. minche
    Date: Fri, Sep 10 2010 16:46:04

    hm, what do you think of making some kind of database (not a real database hh) of tricks, and then just make it into a nice graph with all the links to tutorials and stuff :D

  28. Dudak
    Date: Fri, Sep 10 2010 16:50:31

    It's called the wiki

  29. papa happy
    Date: Sat, Sep 11 2010 00:22:59

    RR24 wrote: spreads i cant even get 2 good busting for me was pretty easy lol i can do 3 - 5 reliably lol
    i hate u !!! lol j/k i wish i could do 2 good let alone 4 or 5 :(

  30. FFtournesol
    Date: Sat, Sep 11 2010 09:14:40

    I can only do 1 bust :(

  31. minche
    Date: Sat, Sep 11 2010 12:26:00

    Dudak wrote: It's called the wiki
    ohh, i posted in the wrong thread -.-" but, not wiki

  32. Jedj
    Date: Sat, Sep 11 2010 16:20:35

    Wiki does not have tutorials for all the tricks, but it does have a nice collection of tricks. Just try looking on Youtube or something for the tutorial.

  33. walrus
    Date: Sat, Sep 11 2010 22:43:47

    palmspin T_______________T

  34. Rarity
    Date: Sun, Sep 12 2010 02:07:36

    Palmspin is pretty hard. After 1 week of trying I could only do 0.5 rev. :/

  35. FFtournesol
    Date: Sun, Sep 12 2010 12:24:38

    when I open wiki it says internal server error....

  36. KillerSpin
    Date: Sun, Sep 12 2010 23:46:28

    lol i laugh at my friends when they cant do thumb around reverse, but im not gonna lie, it was a bitch to learn xD

  37. LadyKillah
    Date: Mon, Sep 13 2010 01:28:20

    ayatori,palm psin FLTA (hardest trick ) :(

  38. pwnwner
    Date: Mon, Sep 13 2010 02:22:41

    Every trick including the palm spin is easy, it's only hard when you're still learning it. I thought the thumb around was hard at first, along with every other trick I've learned, but once you learn the trick, it's as easy as walking.

  39. JackyMacky
    Date: Mon, Sep 13 2010 02:31:51

    lets see hardest trick to learn would be twisted cobra bite, hai tua and its multiples, ayatori trick, and twisted sonic multiple busts. but for a fundamental imo, reverse charge (b/c used to doing a regular one..), reverse TA (b/c the index cant push), ringbak (b/c the stupid fingers are stiff in place >:l), and midbak 1.5 continuous (b/c of catching it in the rite place to continue it). i alredy mastered everything i said here besides the twisted cobra, ayatori, and multiple hai tua (only one :(). u wouldnt believe how long it took just to master midbak 1.5 continuous and multiple busting.... X_X

  40. SYED AFIQ
    Date: Mon, Sep 13 2010 12:19:08

    hey, shadow is quite easy. devil's sonic is quite hard(you can learn this trick from akuinjinoeso on youtube). but try learning basic tricks first. i started thumbaround, but at that time i wasnt really into pen spinning. i didnt even know that it was a hoby. but then i found out about pen spinning and got into it. but yeah, try learning basic tricks first.

  41. happy_happy
    Date: Tue, Sep 14 2010 02:21:42

    anything that peem does that makes you o.O for me it's busting, and hai tuas.. just those twisted sonic > ext ta variations really bite me hard

  42. bubbles
    Date: Tue, Sep 14 2010 04:28:51

    Bakfall was REALLY hard for me, been working on it for 3 months, still only do it 75% of the time

  43. spinford
    Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 00:11:12

    hai tua shoud be

  44. Bell Pepper
    Date: Tue, Sep 21 2010 20:48:23

    oh fuck nipples

  45. itzDaKine
    Date: Wed, Sep 22 2010 02:34:33

    i dunno about twisted cobra bite.. as long as u kinda hav a index bak. u got it. but on the reals Twisted Sonic Multiple Busts are very hard to master. but it all depends on u.

  46. JC
    Date: Wed, Sep 22 2010 06:38:33

    It really varies from person to person... some tricks will just come easier to you than others, whereas other tricks will be much more difficult. I personally find Hai tua rather difficult but others can do it easily in under a week. Then I'm sure there are some tricks that I caught the concept of faster and managed to learn more easily than someone else. A generally very hard trick to master is fingerpass (reverse); but there are tons of tricks out there that are difficult to master too. Again, this depends from person to person. There isn't any 1 trick that is the MOST difficult to learn and MOST difficult to master for everyone.

  47. PSVortex
    Date: Thu, Sep 30 2010 00:19:44

    For me One of the HARDEST is Punkan and Parn by PEEM

  48. lvk96
    Date: Tue, Oct 5 2010 02:16:27

    Hardest ones to master would be the fingerpasses. The hardest trick to learn for me was the shadow

  49. ArmorKingRulez
    Date: Tue, Oct 5 2010 15:50:09

    for me,the hardest was the demon sonic..i just can't seem to pass it to 1-2..

  50. Atsume
    Date: Tue, Oct 5 2010 18:12:01

    armor king just act like your giving someone the bird without putting your fingers all the way down

  51. i.suk
    Date: Tue, Oct 5 2010 22:22:47

    parn new (palm-up indexaround 1.5 cont) is really hard for me (although i've mastered fl ta ~ palmspin)...probably even harder on middle, ring and pinky fingers. just can't do it ==" although reverse powerpass and twisted sonic double bust are/were really hard to learn, both took a few hundred tries lol

  52. ArmorKingRulez
    Date: Thu, Oct 7 2010 17:41:59

    Atsume wrote: armor king just act like your giving someone the bird without putting your fingers all the way down
    huh??Which bird...is it the bird bird or the other bird(manhood)

  53. Atsume
    Date: Thu, Oct 7 2010 21:18:27

    the middle finger? aka the bird

  54. ArmorKingRulez
    Date: Fri, Oct 8 2010 04:28:20

    Well kinda....

  55. goraikou
    Date: Sat, Oct 9 2010 18:02:40

    for me, the hardest was the hai tua and backfall.... i couldn't get the pen to fly into the right angle for hai tua and i couldn't do the pinky back. i practiced about 2 hours for 4 days and i finally got the backfall, but i still can't' do hai tua

  56. PRUEKxThpsc
    Date: Fri, Nov 5 2010 13:28:34

    Powertrick . I want to do it :)

  57. crinix
    Date: Fri, Nov 5 2010 14:51:24

    @PRUEKxThpsc There is no single power trick. There are lots of them.

  58. K!LL3R
    Date: Fri, Nov 5 2010 16:10:30

    seven trick of course

  59. shoeman6
    Date: Fri, Nov 5 2010 16:16:40

    charge reverse, fingerpass rev, all triangle passes, spins, conts and ta reverse took a while...

  60. Paype121
    Date: Sat, Nov 20 2010 05:50:04

    i spin over a year i can only do double bust and regular cobra bite hardest tricks i know... except maybe continuous bak

  61. EpicSpinner
    Date: Sat, Dec 4 2010 18:11:33

    shadow is really hard =/

  62. Tom
    Date: Sun, Dec 5 2010 12:00:59

    Thats really odd because I have great difficulty doing charge normal, I can only do charge reverse xD

  63. Soren
    Date: Wed, Dec 15 2010 17:31:12

    FFtournesol wrote: I'm new in PSing and I want to know the hard tricks so I can work up on it... Shadow and palm spin is pretty hard ^_^
    yes! shadow is hard for me too!

  64. capoboy
    Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 05:01:37

    my hardest trick until now is shadow... :p

  65. FusionX
    Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 05:39:39

    Double bust D: I can't get it consistantly, despite learning it 1.5 days ago. I can only get it 1/6 of the time.

  66. wings
    Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 05:57:55

    Extended thumbaround bust, I've been spinning 2 years now.

  67. Riley
    Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 06:01:51

    Double hai tua.

  68. Ichigo
    Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 06:48:36

    Twisted sonic double bust

  69. spinford
    Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 16:25:32

    So far the hardest trick for me to master is the pinky spread and double haitua

  70. Lettuce
    Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 20:37:57

    Pinky spread, hai tua and fake double are really hard for me. Learning the shadow for me was easier then learning the TA

  71. Rabbid
    Date: Sun, May 1 2011 03:43:03

    Pun New and palmspin thumbaround.. I mastered palmspin ta with a long training time><

  72. Velocity
    Date: Tue, May 3 2011 11:14:37

    Ichigo wrote: Twisted sonic double bust
    Me too sadly :(

  73. Krypton
    Date: Tue, May 3 2011 12:05:51

    @Flash Learn Double TA first. Then Double Bust will come naturally because of the motion. You don't have to get Double TA consistantly down. :)

  74. drgripable
    Date: Tue, May 3 2011 23:51:03

    spreads, inverse shadow cont., busts. i still need to learn hai tua...i cant do it im such a FAIL PSER!!!!! T T

  75. JackyMacky
    Date: Tue, May 17 2011 15:55:48

    I hate stupid twisted cobra bite.... You guys got any tips on mastering this besides KTrinh's tuto vid, someone else's tuto vid, and practice?

  76. Soren
    Date: Wed, May 18 2011 07:50:06

    spreads, swivel, cont bak and palm spin>fl ta

  77. Enigmatic
    Date: Wed, May 18 2011 16:03:10

    twisted sonic multiple bust for now cant get past three

  78. Explosion101
    Date: Sat, May 21 2011 16:01:18

    CaptainGolfBall wrote: Definitely The Hai Tua and Twisted Cobra Bite are 2 of the hardest tricks to learn. Also, try and learn how to do Twisted Sonic BUSTS. The Twisted Sonic is the easy part, but the busting is when it gets tough.
    Twisted Cobra Bite isn't hard to learn, just hard to catch.

  79. chris
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 01:26:18

    Cont Twisted Bak

  80. Sc00t
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 03:40:15

    extended swivel

  81. Soren
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 08:45:41

    i am getting really frustrated with palmspin>fl ta, very hard!

  82. {TH}Enzo
    Date: Sun, May 22 2011 19:29:38

    Spread > Hai tua cont.. my record is only x3

  83. DarkstarR
    Date: Mon, May 23 2011 11:07:59

    i have spin for 3 months and so far hardest trick/mini combo is bakfall and punkan.gd luck learning it :).

  84. Nadhif
    Date: Tue, May 24 2011 09:50:03

    Ayatori trick, Punkan, Bust and Index spread.. That's hard to learn, somehow I STILL cant do Index spread.. So hard.. D:

  85. i.suk
    Date: Tue, May 24 2011 10:03:00

    @Nadhif index spread is probably the only spread which cannot have its numbers increased a lot (pinky and middle are very easy, ring is ok...but index is just a lot harder to get cont, because the control of pen is bad...for other fingers, the pen can 'spin' a bit over fist, but for index spread it cannot); don't worry if you can't do many of them.

  86. Minlaotion
    Date: Wed, May 25 2011 00:37:10

    Hai tua is pretty hard

  87. wings
    Date: Wed, May 25 2011 04:33:07

    Extended Thumbaround multiple friggin busts!!! I can only do one lol

  88. Mufoofee
    Date: Wed, May 25 2011 05:31:56

    Twisted sonic bust.

  89. Fx
    Date: Wed, May 25 2011 07:56:49

    midbak 1.5 imo..

  90. V-Storm
    Date: Wed, May 25 2011 14:19:57

    Currently for me, it's Multi bust. I just wanna know how to do 20 at most..

  91. Bill
    Date: Tue, May 31 2011 13:06:48

    I don't really remember how hard a lot of the tricks were to learn on my right hand, but recent practise on my left hand has revealed to me that ringbak is a horrible trick to learn

  92. keymantz
    Date: Thu, Jun 2 2011 12:07:37

    pun new !

  93. Zleepy
    Date: Wed, Jun 8 2011 01:50:23

    learning the spreads, ring spread seems pretty hard

  94. LIMIT
    Date: Wed, Jun 8 2011 01:55:55

    continuous haitua,punkan,musclearound,and neckaround-.-

  95. EliteN00Bz
    Date: Wed, Jun 8 2011 05:31:36

    LIMIT wrote: continuous haitua,punkan,musclearound,and neckaround-.-
    o.0 wtf neckaround? for now any cont. tricks

  96. Awesome
    Date: Thu, Jun 9 2011 01:38:20

    charge, or fingerpass other tricks are learnt with an existing body of penspinning knowledge and technique, its easier to add onto a skill then to learn from no idea about the subject. But we all gotta start somewhere.

  97. Reason
    Date: Sat, Jun 18 2011 14:25:59

    hai tua, shadow(took me about 3 months just to land one correctly), twisted sonic cont. bust, Ta rev(that push is hard)

  98. Spin4fun
    Date: Sat, Jun 18 2011 15:38:03

    lol reverse sonic rise, backfall, constant x3 twisted sonic bust...

  99. MickChickenn
    Date: Mon, Jun 20 2011 00:19:42

    Spreads and Palmspin to TL TA.

  100. poisoned
    Date: Mon, Jun 20 2011 00:45:43

    Double leg around

  101. linli07
    Date: Sat, Jun 25 2011 22:33:23

    bak to fingerless thumbaround reverse :P

  102. unnzzy
    Date: Wed, Jun 29 2011 12:54:53

    i have been spinning for 9 months and i haven't mastered the fingerpass yet!!!! and i think all the cont. tricks are hard(even i've already got a double hai tuas and up to twisted sonic bust 8x)

  103. fang
    Date: Wed, Jun 29 2011 13:45:10

    charge reverse....

  104. Raos
    Date: Wed, Jun 29 2011 18:12:07

    triangle pass and figner pass cane be frustrating sometimes

  105. Dakrowl
    Date: Thu, Jun 30 2011 10:34:25

    pun new...

  106. Mageta
    Date: Fri, Jul 1 2011 19:58:35

    Thumbaround reverse was horrible for me, I would practice, feel like I finally got it, then the next day I wouldn't be able to do it any more, it went on like this for a long time. The same thing has been going on with double charge, maybe I just need to warm up beforehand.

  107. Forest
    Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 13:00:41

    PALM SPIN DEFINITELY. i've been trying for like months now and i can't get it to spin for more than one rotation on my hand. D: but yea, hai tua was easy...i learned it in one day after looking a Ktrinh93's tutorial. xD thanks Ktrinh93! and also the double bust, i still don't understand the concept of it...

  108. DArKT
    Date: Fri, Jul 15 2011 13:03:25

    Seasick...harmonic...look to Freeman tuto...

  109. GeeGeeGee
    Date: Sun, Jul 17 2011 01:01:16

    for twisted sonic busts and fl ta 1.5 con. both took me a long time to get down. after 2 years of penspinning i still can't get 10 twisted sonic busts.

  110. Hyp3rLink(HpL)
    Date: Wed, Jul 27 2011 02:49:18

    For me, twisted sonic multiple busts is one of the hardest trick i ecounter...

  111. Ryst
    Date: Thu, Jul 28 2011 03:45:12

    I personally thought cont flta was hard.

  112. DasToks
    Date: Sat, Jul 30 2011 11:35:47

    your new and you already want to work on the most hard tricks? ROFLMAO!!!!!!! start with the basic -.- and usually the hard tricks are powertricks like: multiple busts, haitua, con. palm spin (like peem did[?])

  113. RaM
    Date: Sat, Jul 30 2011 13:41:39

    for me the hardest is PUNKAN! :D

  114. Wisp
    Date: Sat, Jul 30 2011 17:23:34

    Thumbspin, I just can't do it.

  115. DArKT
    Date: Sun, Jul 31 2011 03:37:37

    LOL... Hardest trick to learn...Magical reset

  116. erik123098
    Date: Sun, Jul 31 2011 12:27:20

    Srsly, I find reverse Charge SO HARD.

  117. DArKT
    Date: Sun, Jul 31 2011 16:28:32

    Seriously,I have a friend,that took 3 months to learn the charge...

  118. Explosion101
    Date: Mon, Aug 1 2011 00:40:46

    Wisp wrote: Thumbspin, I just can't do it.
    TA with your thumb down

  119. soonyang97
    Date: Mon, Aug 1 2011 08:34:03

    ayatori trick?

  120. Dris
    Date: Wed, Aug 3 2011 17:50:20

    I still can't do a Hai Tua. But the longest so far was getting a double bust. It took me a pretty long time to get a flushed sonic otherwise. =/

  121. KIRGO
    Date: Thu, Aug 4 2011 12:28:05

    "The" hardest trick to my mind has never been done ^^ Try to master/learn new things, like antigravity rise. Just an antigravity with the pinky is awful... So, try to link antigravity fluently, that s to say: you launch an antigravity for example with the middle finger, and you catch it with your index, in the initial position for an antigravity with the index. It should take some times =)

  122. i.suk
    Date: Thu, Aug 4 2011 13:19:39

    KIRGO wrote: "The" hardest trick to my mind has never been done ^^ Try to master/learn new things, like antigravity rise. Just an antigravity with the pinky is awful... So, try to link antigravity fluently, that s to say: you launch an antigravity for example with the middle finger, and you catch it with your index, in the initial position for an antigravity with the index. It should take some times =)
    anti-gravity rise is pretty hard (i've thought of it too haha), but only because pinky anti-gravity is very hard, the ring to middle to index anti-gravities are not that hard to do, in my opinion xD i guess there's also other crazy anti-gravity things, like palm down inverse shadows, or completely palm down pun new (things which are hard to execute well because of the laws of physics)

  123. ExeR
    Date: Sat, Aug 6 2011 19:30:17

    Ring backaround 1.5 cont is pretty hard i think :sleep:

  124. Krypton
    Date: Sun, Aug 7 2011 02:49:52

    Usually 'difficulty' for me is in getting the smoothness of linkages, but for me Tw Cobra Bite is hard.

  125. Ryst
    Date: Sun, Aug 7 2011 08:28:28

    Tw. Cobra Bite was kinda easy for me to master. Getting it cont is hard.

  126. DmodD
    Date: Sun, Aug 7 2011 14:39:47

    for me its advance spiderspin(not cont) it like a month since i started doing it and its like 30% percent suscess image how long the cont will take =="

  127. Far
    Date: Sun, Aug 21 2011 07:22:01

    Busts, Punkan, and Palmspin FL TA. Advanced Spiderspin and Antigravity are extremely hard too tho T___T

  128. ZXero
    Date: Fri, Aug 26 2011 10:36:48

    Pun New, Switch Spread, Twisted Sonic Triple Bust. Triple Bust is killing me, i only get lucky at that.

  129. RicLu98
    Date: Sat, Aug 27 2011 01:59:34

    any anti gravity trick is pretty hard

  130. DArKT
    Date: Sat, Aug 27 2011 22:25:19

    Inverse Bakfall RA Spiderspin anty-gravity Mid bak 1.5

  131. Soren
    Date: Sun, Sep 11 2011 15:43:59

    shadow reverse, swivel, palm spin>fl ta and linking power tricks together

  132. DaniilTangTL
    Date: Thu, Oct 6 2011 10:26:15

    lolz,high revolution thumbspin,cant balance it,:P

  133. Eruption
    Date: Thu, Oct 6 2011 13:03:55

    For me thumbspins were really easy, the hardest trick for me was the hai tua - I keep on doing fake doubles everytime I turn my hand o_O

  134. iFL
    Date: Fri, Oct 7 2011 08:35:09

    Hai Tua, Pun Kan, and honestly Sonic Rev. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  135. Arab
    Date: Fri, Oct 7 2011 19:56:06

    Hai Tua was pretty easy for me, I got it in no time. And i've only been spinning for a year. Hardest trick for me to learn? I'd go for midbak 1.5 cont...Charge rev...Thumbaround/cont ta (cuz I was a noob in the beginning, we all were xD), Thumbswivel Reverse...Twisted sonic multiple bust...Swivel...Pinkybak, around, and bust. Those are, IMO, the tricks you might have trouble learning. Good luck ;).

  136. Kanon
    Date: Sat, Oct 8 2011 05:28:49

    Hai Tua.

  137. gash113
    Date: Sat, Oct 8 2011 08:38:35

    Flush Sonic, Switch Spread

  138. tom19
    Date: Mon, Oct 17 2011 04:28:18

    people keep on saying hai tua is hard...But why?

  139. Eazy
    Date: Mon, Oct 17 2011 06:05:55

    RING FREAKING BAK =.= hai tua quite easy thou...... others are....puk kan tw sonic bust x5++

  140. Glow
    Date: Sat, Oct 22 2011 22:06:10

    for me it was multi busting, still can only do one :(

  141. dat
    Date: Sun, Oct 23 2011 00:18:27

    pun new is sooooo fuc*en hard

  142. subin_
    Date: Mon, Nov 7 2011 09:36:33

    fro me everything i don't know how to do is hard :P

  143. Soren
    Date: Mon, Nov 7 2011 10:19:21

    im really struggling with palmspin o.5>fl ta, wen i do get it, i only do a palmspin 0.25 =[

  144. Abyss
    Date: Mon, Nov 7 2011 10:55:35

    busting with your non domain hand. I cant even link it to a ta properly -.- EDIT: 200 POST !!! :D

  145. Galax
    Date: Mon, Nov 7 2011 14:08:48

    punkan, haitua, twisted sonic busts, and punkan are the hardest trick for me!

  146. Iota
    Date: Mon, Nov 7 2011 17:52:59

    Really? They're just power tricks......I understand punkan (though its ugly >.>) and haitua are hard to learn, but busting? I mean if you want like 15 in a row maybe, but that's just straight grinding out practice time on it. For me, probably anything continuous not cuz it's that hard, just so time consuming and boring/mostly useless to work on, like continuous baks 1/1.5+, especially even thinking about multiple pinkybaks/pinkybakrevs. I have trouble with multiple spreads as well, especially if they're strings of varying ones and done with fingers out instead of in, e.g. sp12355etc. I'm having trouble with all the inverse and inverse reverse powerpass variations, I don't even know where to start with getting those down.

  147. luqooo
    Date: Wed, Nov 30 2011 04:22:45

    for me, i'm mastering the hardest power trick i have ever learn, the muscle around

  148. Mats
    Date: Wed, Nov 30 2011 14:48:36

    Continuous Inverse Thumbspin 2.5s Really really hard.

  149. ChainBreak
    Date: Wed, Nov 30 2011 19:33:07

    do a smooth (inv) moonwalk Sonic/ - rev and I'll worship you =/

  150. Kanon
    Date: Fri, Dec 2 2011 06:30:34

    1. Twisted Sonic Multiple Busts. xD As of now I can only do 2 or 3. 2. Pun Kan I learned Hai Tua in 2 days and Charge Reverse in a day. (seriously)

  151. Caranto
    Date: Sun, Dec 4 2011 13:48:53

    ya, twisted sonic multiple busts are very hard :D

  152. penspinner_Terrence
    Date: Thu, Dec 8 2011 08:34:46

    twisted sonic mutiple bust...... its very hard

  153. diosming
    Date: Sat, Nov 3 2012 05:04:19

    Hai tua,Ayatori,Spreads,,power pass.................is the hardest trick for me .........

  154. JustDesire
    Date: Wed, Nov 7 2012 05:10:29

    Reverse of the fundamentals get harder to learn the longer you have been spinning. Twisted sonic bust came to me naturally, But of course learning power tricks is hard.

  155. Obstracized
    Date: Wed, Nov 7 2012 06:20:36

    Continious FL Tricks.

  156. PERSIST
    Date: Wed, Nov 7 2012 07:15:21

    Thumbspin, flush sonic, shadows. >_< Or, of course, power tricks.

  157. Enigma
    Date: Wed, Nov 7 2012 16:11:00

    Pun new rev

  158. Mats
    Date: Sun, Nov 11 2012 21:33:03

    I actually think the hardest trick to master, is your first, whatever it is. Imagine how many people around the world try to do a trick with a pen and imagine how many continue until they were successful. The first trick is surely the hardest.

  159. 20%
    Date: Fri, Dec 14 2012 15:22:42

    Hai tua, ayatori, multiple busts

  160. jantosh11
    Date: Thu, Dec 20 2012 20:49:27

    TA and Double TA

  161. Sekai
    Date: Fri, Dec 21 2012 11:03:38

    im having problems learning spiderspin punnew lolol

  162. Walkaz
    Date: Fri, Dec 21 2012 11:49:47

    charge and sonic they were almost impossible for me

  163. Xienix
    Date: Fri, Dec 21 2012 13:01:26

    plamspin 1.5 continues D: and in the biginning the sonic and the twisted sonic were hard to seperate from each other :P

  164. Obstracized
    Date: Fri, Dec 21 2012 15:16:09

    PalmSpin > FL TA Cont.

  165. A-spin231
    Date: Wed, Oct 16 2013 06:43:13

    muscle around.... it is one of the hardest

  166. Infiknight
    Date: Thu, Oct 17 2013 09:01:10

    definitely spinnerpeems palmspin fl ta

  167. Thespinner
    Date: Mon, Oct 28 2013 11:51:41

    the fingerpass is one of the hardest to master but easiest to execute.

  168. juzzle
    Date: Mon, Oct 28 2013 17:53:55

    1) fingerpass/ triangelpass in 234/Dualpasses 2)to master spins

  169. ChowCow
    Date: Tue, Oct 29 2013 04:37:33

    fingerpass definitly...like seriously no joke they say hai tua is hard but if you can do each individual linkage in it its fine id say powerpass is pretty hard to get the concept down as well as flush sonic rev and inv flush sonic

  170. Tommy
    Date: Tue, Oct 29 2013 06:49:14

    ChowCow wrote: fingerpass definitly...like seriously no joke they say hai tua is hard but if you can do each individual linkage in it its fine id say powerpass is pretty hard to get the concept down as well as flush sonic rev and inv flush sonic
    They are both easy to get down Just practice, shouldn't take longer than a week to get perfect

  171. infiniteComssa
    Date: Wed, Oct 30 2013 06:06:07

    Lol, I can bust about 4 times in the period of 6 months

  172. DioBrando
    Date: Wed, Oct 30 2013 08:04:41

    weiss bak 1.5 cont

  173. shAdowz
    Date: Thu, Oct 31 2013 06:08:37

    Flush sonic and variations for me. Requires ring finger flexibility.

  174. Solar
    Date: Fri, Nov 1 2013 02:04:36

    Pinky bak pop spin, hard to learn

  175. Infiknight
    Date: Mon, Nov 4 2013 08:21:33

    it took me like 8 months to get the hai tua

  176. Monk
    Date: Fri, Feb 21 2014 23:32:35

    It took me a month to learn the tw. sonic bust.

  177. Solid
    Date: Sat, Feb 22 2014 01:41:19

    pinky bak... I still have trouble with it. Hard to get the motion of it!!

  178. Zelphus
    Date: Sun, Feb 23 2014 06:34:01

    Anti-gravity,the pen kept flying away.

  179. blacke kat
    Date: Sun, Mar 2 2014 18:46:49

    flush sonic

  180. Monk
    Date: Wed, Jun 18 2014 20:16:22

    Hai tua took me a few weeks, flush sonic looks really hard doe.

  181. MarcoC
    Date: Sat, Jun 28 2014 23:02:48

    I would say pinky spreads. However, I find that palm spins are hard to do consistently. :P

  182. Infiknight
    Date: Sun, Jun 29 2014 03:52:13

    multiple busts

  183. MPC
    Date: Sun, Jun 29 2014 11:36:04

    I still consider inverse sonic to be some contortionist form of witchcraft. Every now and then I come back to it and my fingers be like "we've been over this, it AIN'T gonna happen!" mpc

  184. Voracity
    Date: Sun, Jun 29 2014 12:08:19

    Inverse sonic 34

  185. AfroSquared
    Date: Sun, Jul 13 2014 19:28:12

    Making the bakfall smooth is really hard. But the hardest trick i have mastered is the Shadow. OMG the timing and the force needed to push the pen is hard to master. I am learning the double bust now and i'm finding it easier than the Shadow. (btw the shadow is also my favourite trick)

  186. buyakapro
    Date: Fri, Jul 18 2014 08:33:30

    For me it was definitely the Twisted Sonic multiple bust. It took me three months after the first bust to get the second. And four months to get the third! Anything after that, though is simple enough.

  187. Sekai
    Date: Sun, Jul 20 2014 18:21:44

    Once you get 20, 300~ are easy

  188. Alvaris
    Date: Tue, Jul 22 2014 07:02:06

    Sekai wrote: Once you get 20, 300~ are easy
    Nope >_> subjective

  189. Sekai
    Date: Sat, Jul 26 2014 13:41:05

    Alvaris wrote: Nope >_> subjective
    If you practice, yes (maybe after 30+ though)

  190. Firenzo
    Date: Fri, Nov 14 2014 12:22:51

    well for me the hardest is probably Continuous Flush Sonic

  191. nyt-FURY360
    Date: Sat, Nov 15 2014 13:05:12

    guys hai tua tips needed

  192. Pen15
    Date: Sat, Nov 22 2014 13:01:40

    It looks like you are pretty new KnightFury360. If you don't have all the fundamentals and their reverse mastered, you probably shouldn't worry about Hai Tua. Maybe you should learn Twisted sonic bust and devil's shadow bust. They are intermediate level. (I think)