UPSB v4
Off-topic / Would you want to know when you are going to die?
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Date: Mon, Feb 17 2014 22:05:30
Given the opportunity, say that there is an oracle who can see your future but will only tell you two things; one, exactly [B]when[/B] you are going to die, and two, exactly [B]how[/B] you are going to die. Would you want to know either of these and why?
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Date: Mon, Feb 17 2014 23:20:01
No because I would tempt fate and do stupid shit knowing I would not die, end up getting badly hurt and living out the rest of my life as a cripple waiting to die.
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Date: Mon, Feb 17 2014 23:38:43
Is this an Oedipus reference????
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Date: Tue, Feb 18 2014 00:19:17
Correct me if I am wrong but how is this a Oedipus reference? I would like to know both, so I can try to prevent death as much as possible. We fear the process of death not death itself. Death, is just a word.
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Date: Tue, Feb 18 2014 01:03:59
No and why would you.
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Date: Tue, Feb 18 2014 01:31:09
Zen wrote: Correct me if I am wrong but how is this a Oedipus reference? I would like to know both, so I can try to prevent death as much as possible. We fear the process of death not death itself. Death, is just a word.
If it was really foretold there would be nothing oyu could do to stop it and you would just waste a bunch of time and effort trying to prevent it making your life worse. -
Date: Tue, Feb 18 2014 02:41:14
if you know when you will die, does that mean you are fated to die at that determined moment... or could the new found knowledge of your death lead your life to end at some other point?
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Date: Tue, Feb 18 2014 06:19:12
Schrodinger's cat
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Date: Tue, Feb 18 2014 15:20:55
Reason;277269]if you know when you will die, does that mean you are fated to die at that determined moment... or could the new found knowledge of your death lead your life to end at some other point?[/QUOTE] So are you trying to ask whether or not you can use the knowledge of your death to prevent it? If so, then consider the following. The future that you are told of, namely when you are going to die, in that future your future self already knows that he/she is going to die at that moment because he/she was told so in the past (which is the present for you). Meaning that in that future, your future self has the knowledge of when he's going to die and still dies. This would mean that you can't (or perhaps chose not to) prevent your death. However, it seems very plausible to to be able to prevent your death. Say for example, you are told that next week tuesday you are going to die in a car accident. In this case all you have to do is never leave your house on next week tuesday and you won't die. [SIZE="1"]Unless it is like final destination where you are just prolonging the process of your imminent death.[/SIZE] [QUOTE=JackyMacky wrote: Is this an Oedipus reference????
Jacky pls -
Date: Tue, Feb 18 2014 15:23:52
Say you find a way to take precautions to prevent your death at the foretold moment, now you dont know when youre going to die since youll die another way and time. so why even bother?
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Date: Tue, Feb 18 2014 16:03:38
Holy shit UPSB is getting deeper and deeper. It's almost like one of these esoterik forums.
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Date: Tue, Feb 18 2014 16:05:05
Supergirl wrote: So are you trying to ask whether or not you can use the knowledge of your death to prevent it? If so, then consider the following. The future that you are told of, namely when you are going to die, in that future your future self already knows that he/she is going to die at that moment because he/she was told so in the past (which is the present for you). Meaning that in that future, your future self has the knowledge of when he's going to die and still dies. This would mean that you can't (or perhaps chose not to) prevent your death. However, it seems very plausible to to be able to prevent your death. Say for example, you are told that next week tuesday you are going to die in a car accident. In this case all you have to do is never leave your house on next week tuesday and you won't die. [SIZE="1"]Unless it is like final destination where you are just prolonging the process of your imminent death.[/SIZE] Jacky pls
k... well basically i dont care if someone tells me when i will die because we dont know how this shit works. if we believe in fate (lack of free will or just a determined destiny) then we will certainly die at that determined moment. if we believe in the ability to change the outcome of our future (free will) then we can use this knowledge to prevent our death. we just dont know which it is. and to those who think "because i must die at this given point, i am incapable of dying at any other point", if this is true, what if you jump out of a building before your fated time? you may not die, but you will probably spend the rest of your life as a cripple... just a thought. -
Date: Tue, Feb 18 2014 18:14:57
Yes. I believe such a thing would be a gift. I do not believe in fate, so to speak. I believe we are the decisions we make. If I made a decision that effects my death, then naturally I would want to make a wiser one, since I have no wish to die.
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Date: Wed, Feb 19 2014 02:03:26
I would not. It would be pointless, you'd be paranoid all the time trying to prevent your death. If the "oracle" told you how and when, what would be the point of trying to avoid it? If he/she said it and it is the legit truth, there would be no way of changing what's already been said by this person.
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Date: Wed, Feb 19 2014 08:37:03
i guess you are going to die one day anyways.But imagine yourself living your days,knowing how you are going to die...
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Date: Thu, Feb 20 2014 16:40:01
Knowing when you'll die would be better than knowing how you'll die. Who knows if your death can be a painful one and you're just left there struggling in the limbo..
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Date: Thu, Feb 20 2014 17:35:29
F**k no, i want my death to be like a bj...a surprise!!! Plus if it's tomorrow I'll be scared s**tless the whole day.
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Date: Tue, Mar 4 2014 11:08:20
Nope, because the anxiety will kill me instead.