UPSB v4
Pen Modifications / Starters Guide to Pen Mods [2010]
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Date: Wed, Jun 23 2010 20:21:30
================================================= [Updated for 2010] The Starters Guide to Pen Mods ================================================= Note: These are only recommendations, each person can spin whatever pen they feel comfortable with. 6/23/2010 -- Currently Updating ================================================= Index: ================================================= [SPOILER="Index"]I. Introduction to Pen Mods [INDENT]A.) What is a Pen Mod Anyways?[/INDENT] [INDENT]B.) The Different Types of Pens.[/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT] 1.) [SC] Single Capped[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT] 2.) [DC] Double Capped[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT] 3.) [RT] Retractable [/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT] 4.) [MP] Mechanical Pencil[/INDENT][/INDENT] II. (Newcomers) What Pen Should I use? [INDENT]A.) Single-sided[/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT]1.) Short Hands (16 cm - 18 cm)[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- RSVP V1/V2/CX/MX[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- G3-MX/MX²[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Hybrid-DC-HGG[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT]2.) Medium Hands(19 cm - 21 cm)[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- #2 Pencil[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Lemon Mod[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Hybrid Commsa MX[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- RSVP MMT[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT]3.) Large Hands (22 cm + )[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- RSVP NX MMT[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- MSXA[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT]B.) Double-sided[/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT]1.) Short Hands (16 cm - 18 cm)[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Double Capped Comssa [/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Bictory[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Ballsign Mod[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Double Capped Dong-a v2[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT]2.) Medium Hands(19 cm - 21 cm)[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Metallic Comssa[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT]- Double Capped rushon[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Dr. ST [/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT]3.) Large Hands (22 cm + )[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Extended bictory[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Rushon Comssa[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] III. (Intermiediate) What Pen Should I use? [INDENT]A.) Single-sided[/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT]1.) Short Hands (16 cm - 18 cm)[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- G.J.H.[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Toro MX (Hi-tec C)[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- s777 MX[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- OverGround Mod[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT]2.) Medium Hands(19 cm - 21 cm)[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Spinner-named G3 Mods[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Impact MX[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Ayatori[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT]3.) Large Hands (22 cm + )[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Fuco G3 Mod[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Kuzu EXT[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- 4-Tipped MSXA[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- The SX[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT]B.) Double-sided[/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT]1.) Short Hands (16 cm - 18 cm)[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Namae Mod[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Ballsign KT[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT]2.) Medium Hands(19 cm - 21 cm)[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Cheat Comssa[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Dr. KT[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- BusterCYL[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Mr. somsak[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT]3.) Large Hands (22 cm + )[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Sankaku Sailor Twin Mod[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Vicgotgame Mod[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- CK Mod[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [/SPOILER] [SPOILER="I. Introduction to Pen Mods"] ================================================= I. Introduction to Pen Mods: ================================================= ------------------------------------------------- A.) What is a Pen Mod Anyways? ------------------------------------------------- A Pen mod is a custom assembled pen specifically made for spinning. These pens use multiple parts from many different types of pens from around the world. The emphasis is put on creating balanced pen mods for easier manipulation. Each pen mod has unique traits such has having large amounts of weight for learning power-tricks or grips on each end for doing wiper tricks. Every mod is different and every person has different tastes in what feels comfortable for spinning. It all is a matter of preference. Some pens can be as simple putting pen caps on both sides of a pen body, others require grips to be cut, bodies to be filed or cut, glueing metal tips on, and etc. These custom made pens can get very expensive however. Pen mods can range anywhere from $1 all the way to $35.00. Rare pens can even go as high as $75.00 + in the Trade/Auction Section. ------------------------------------------------ B.) The Different Types of Pens: ------------------------------------------------ As I had mentioned previous there are hundreds of different pen mod combinations that can be created. With so many different pieces and parts/types it's hard to keep track and find specific parts/mods. Fortunately, we have Jargon used on UPSB to help sort through this giant list of mods. With that here is a basic run-down of basic notation used in to differentiate the different types of pens. 1.) {SC} Single Capped - A mod that has a designated front and back with only one Cap. - Ex: RSVP MX 2.) {DC} Double Capped - A mod that has no designated side with two caps on each end. - Ex: Comssa Mod 3.) {RT} Retractable - A mod that writes using a retractable mechanism like a normal retractable pen. - Ex: Cyon Mod 4.) {MP} Mechanical Penic - A mod that writes using a mechanical pencil mechanism. - Ex: G.J.H. [/SPOILER][SPOILER="II. What Pens Should I Use? (Newcomers)"] =============================================== II. What Pen Should I Use? {Newcomers}: =============================================== ----------------------------------------------- A.) Single-sided: ----------------------------------------------- *********************************** 1.) Short Hands (16 cm - 18 cm) *********************************** RSVP MX Common Variations: V1/V2/CX/ The RSVP MX offers a great starting point in terms of pen mods. It is fully customizable in nearly every color combination and can be made from many substitute pens making the parts very easy to obtain. (The MX is short for MAXIMUM.) =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Fully Customizable Color Scheme and Design + Easy to make (Hardest part requiring a screwdriver through the backcap) + Easy to substitute parts if the exact ones aren't available + Cheap (Average being under $5.00) + Retains Original Look and Function of a Normal pen (doesn't stick out that much in public) =============================================== Con's: =============================================== - Not Fully Center Balanced (if Made the standard way) - Authentic parts are not Native to some countries G3-MX/MX² Common Variations: GSHA/G.J.H. The G3-MX is an easy alternative mod for those who have access to Pilot G3 pens. It has the same customizable traits as the RSVP mx, but features a slightly larger circumfrence than the RSVP which some find is more appealing spinning-wise. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Fully Customizable Color Scheme and Design + Very easy to Make + Cheap (Also under the $5.00 mark) + Writable + Balanced =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Shorter than most mods - Some parts are not available to some countries - A tad too lite for some spinners Hybrid-DC-HGG The Hybrid DCHGG is a great spare part mod that has a high amount of customizability with a very small price tag. The barrel uses the Hybrid Gel Grip barrel which is quite similiar to the RSVP, but more accessible in some countries. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Customizable Grip Schemes and In-lay + Doubled Sided Grips on a SC form factor + Balanced + Cheap ($5.00-$6.00) =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Litte bit more complicated Assembly Process - Limited to the Colors of G2 Grips - Requires a few extra pens to make *********************************** 2.) Medium Hands(19 cm - 21 cm) *********************************** #2 Pencil A Pencil is the cheapest and easiest choice for learning to spin. They come in every color of the rainbox and they're easily replaceable. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Great for Learning Fundamental Tricks + Found Everywhere + Insanely Cheap + No Modding Required =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Doesn't have that Modded Flash Factor - Very Lite Lemon Mod Common Variations: MCX v1/v.4 The Lemon mod is an a soft body variation of an RSVP MX that features a longer body and higher momentum than a traditional RSVP MX. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Higher Momentum than an RSVP MX + High Durability + Soft-body Finish + Balanced + Easy to make =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - A bit more expensive than some mods ($8.00) - Dong-A Signs pens are exclusive to Korea (But can be bought through online retailers such as http://www.penwish.com ) - Limited customization for body colors Hybrid Commsa MX Common Variations: The Simplified HCMX The HCMX is another soft body variation take on the RSVP MX, but it features the front of a Dong-a Sign pen with a tip as the bottom side of the mod. It also writes in HGG Gel ink which allows for a much smoother writing experience than the typical ballpoint pen. (The simplified version eliminates the writablility in exchange for an easier modding process) =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Only uses (3) Pens + Higher Momentum than an RSVP MX + High Durability + Soft-body Finish + Balanced =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - The Dong-A sign pen and HGG aren't available in all countries - Limited Customization RSVP MMT Common Variations: RSVP AMMX, RSVP NX MMT The RSVP MMT (MMT = Momentum) is a gripless take on the RSVP MX. Instead of a standard grip on the front, a clear barrel section is placed there for a second sectioned insert plus an increased spinning space. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Fully Customizable Color Scheme + Increased Spinning Room + Slightly Higher momentum + Cheap =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Somewhat difficult modding process - The HGG tip can be a bit difficult to find locally - No Grips *********************************** 3.) Large Hands (22 cm + ) *********************************** RSVP NX MMT The RSVP NX MMT is a lengthier version of the MMT which kicks up the length an additional (2) cm to the MMT. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Ideal for longer hands + Higher Momentum than the MMT + No more expensive than the MMT =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Slightly difficult modding process - Parts not available in all countries - No Grips MSXA The MSXA is an extended MX that incorporates a Dong-A Sign pen cap as it's main extension. The Weight can be modified easy as adding a few extra tips with some teflon tape or placing them in the cap. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Fully Customizable color-scheme + Ideal for Longer Hands + Increased spinning room without sacrificing grips + Easy to Make =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - the 4-tipped version is quite expensive - Dong-a sign pens aren't available in most countries ----------------------------------------------- B.) Double-sided ----------------------------------------------- *********************************** 1.) Short Hands (16 cm - 18 cm) *********************************** Comssa mod Common Variations: Metallic Comssa/Cheat Comssa The Comssa mod is a korean mod which features a double capped Dong-A Sign pen. It's a staple of numerous double sided mods. The mod itself only uses (3) pens which makes it immensely popular and appealing all around. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Balanced + (Optional) Double Sided Grips + Easy to Mod + Soft Body (Durable) + Cheap =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Dong-a sign pens aren't available in most countries Bictory Common Variations: Extended Bictory/Signo Tipped Bictory The Bictory is usually the go to mod for most beginners in pen spinning. It uses 2 of the cheapest most common pens found in around the world (Bic Round Stics) and is very easy to mod without running the risk of ruining expensive parts. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Balanced + Insanely Cheap + Easy to Mod + (Optional) Double Sided Grips + Available in most countries =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - The Barrel can be a bit too thin for some - Not as Aesthetically Flashy Ballsign Mod Common Variations: Metallic Ballsign, Ballsign KT The ballsign is a light double sided mod that features a tappered barrel and translucent body. It also uses a unique grip styling that is beneficial to infinity and wiper based trick-sets. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Great for Infinities + Insertable Double Sided Mod + Easy to mod =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Super-grips and Japanese Dr. Grips can be difficult to obtain - Considered to be too light for some - Can be a bit expensive from using the Dr. Grip Double Capped Dong-a v2 This v2 pen was recently released last year as Dong-A took notice of how popular it's normal sign pen had been selling due to spinning and made it a bit thinner and shorter for spinners with smaller hands. (This can generally only be bought on penwish to current knowledge) =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Ideal for smaller hands + Cheap + Same visual aesthetics as a normal Sign pen in a smaller package =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Very Lite - The caps can't natively hold HGG tips for a metallic configuration *********************************** 2.) Medium Hands(19 cm - 21 cm) *********************************** Metallic Comssa Common Variations: Signo Tip Comssa/Cheat Comssa The Comssa Metallic (original name) is a small add on mod to the normal Comssa mod in which two HGG tips are screwed onto the caps; that of which provides an additional one to two centimeters of overall length. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Higher Momentum Than a standard comssa mod + Very Easy to mod =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Can be expensive - Parts aren't found in all countries Double Capped rushon Common Variations: Rushon comssa The rushon mod is a very simple japanese marker that's double-capped. The body is unique with having a slick finish coating which allows for easier top spin tricks. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Unique slick body type + Higher Spinning Space than a Comssa mod + Very Easy to mod + Relatively Cheap =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Little Momentum - Body only available in one color - Slick body Type (Some don't care for it) - Not available in countries outside of Japan Dr. ST Variation of: Dr. KT/CT/M&M/AC The Dr. ST is an american variation of the famous Dr. KT pen mod (see below in intermiediate for details) that gives a similiar high momentum spinning experience, but at a fraction of the cost. ***Please note this pen is not recommended for starting on, but to grow INTO to reduce the injury of hand muscles*** =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Very High Momentum + Increased Spinning Space + Uses Common Parts =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Can be too heavy for some spinners - Considerably more expensive than most pens - Most parts are exclusive to the USA *********************************** 3.) Large Hands (22 cm + ) *********************************** Extended/Semi-extended bictory The extended bictory is a variation on the dirt cheap bictory mod mentioned previous in the recommendations. Instead of using only the bic stic to make it double sided, a Bic Stic Grip front is incorporated onto one(Semi) or both sides(EXT) of the bic. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Dirt Cheap + Adjustable Length + Easy to mod + Higher Momentum than a standard Bictory + Uses Common Pens =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Not as Aesthetically flashy - Limited color options Rushon Comssa Common Variations: Metallic Rushon/Metallic Rushon Comssa The Rushon comssa replaces the standard rounded caps with Dong-A sign pen caps on both sides. This creates a very long comssa using the slick body. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Increased Spinning Room + Higher Momentum than the standard rushon mod + Easy to mod =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - The slick body appeal is limited - limited color options - Pens are limited to Japan [/SPOILER][SPOILER="III. What Pens Should I Use? (Intermediate)"] ----------------------------------------------- III. (Intermiediate) What Pen Should I use? ----------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------- A.) Single-sided ----------------------------------------------- *********************************** 1.) Short Hands (16 cm - 18 cm) *********************************** G.J.H. Common Variations: Saizen G3, Nikoo G3 The G.J.H.is a G3 based mechanical pencil mod. It features a fully functional pentel sharp or Jedo pencil with a clickable once piece body. This mod allows for the G3 to retain the form factor and small size of the G3 MX, but dramatically change the momentum of the pencil. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Increased Momentum from the G3-MX + Fully usable Mechanical Pencil + Fully customizable =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Expensive - Difficult Modding Process - Jedo's or Pentel sharps can be difficult to obtain Toro MX (Hi-tec C) Variation of: RSVP MX This is the same basic RSVP MX, but using a Hi-tec C tip and a G2 grip on the front for a slightly higher momentum at no sacrifice to length or significant weight change. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Increased momentum from an RSVP MX + Easy to mod or upgrade parts from an MX + Fully Customizable + Uses Common parts =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Requires one additional pen not found in all countries s777 MX The s777MX is the signature Single sided mod used by s777. It's uniquely made using a thicker cap on top of a G1 body to extend the overall length which in turn mounts the RSVP cap right on top. The aesthetics don't have the greatest appeal, but where it lacks in aesthetics it makes up in unique spinnability. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Unique spinning quality + Optimized for Wiper/infinity tricks + Very easy to Mod =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Super lavable Caps are rare (1st backcap) - Either a LOVE IT or HATE IT mod - Slight Learning Curve OverGround Mod The Overground mod is a very easy variation on the G3MX design. It incorporates stacking an additional Tip on the front of a plastic tipped G3 to give the same length extension as the G.J.H. without the intensive modding; providing a higher momentum. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Larger Front Grip + Very easy to mod + Similar momentum to a Signo tipped RSVP MX =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Parts are only available in some countries *********************************** 2.) Medium Hands(19 cm - 21 cm) *********************************** Spinner-named G3 Mods Variations and types: Key3 G3, Kuzu G3, Saizen G3, Coloumb G3, Seven G3 These japanese mods all have a single trait common to all of them, Tip-stacking. The benefit of this is it allows for dozens of different weight/style combinations, but each with it's own unique spin type =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Fully Customizable color/grips/inlays + Various Weighting options + Flash Factor =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Very Expensive: from $15.00 - $25.00 + per mod - Requires lots of parts - Difficult modding process Impact MX The Impact MX is Kam's follow up to the RSVP MX he had created when the pen spinning communities first had started. It utilizes the same form factor as the RSVP MX, but adds additional weight to the front and back without making it feel overly heavy. The front uses a more cushy Impact RT grip making infinities easier than the original RSVP MX. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Great Momentum + Extremely Durable + Mostly Customizable =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Requires specific brass washers and screws - More expensive that most pens (About $15) - Can be a bit heavy for some spinners Ayatori Lakubo Jell Mod The Ayatori mod popularized the Grip-cutting scene into what it is now. It has a very high momentum and a high level of customization. Allowing for Grip-cuts, inserts under the grip-cut, normal inserts, and an insert in the cap if desired. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Flash Factor + Higher Momentum than most Mods + Fully Customizable + Lots of front grip (without Grip cut) for infinities =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Lakubo body is thinner than most clear hard plastic pens - Can be too heavy for some spinners - Potentially difficult modding process for high end customization ********************************** 3.) Large Hands (22 cm + ) ********************************** Kuzu EXT This mod is a variation of the original Kuzu G3 mod adapted for longer hands. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Great for Larger hands + Higher Momentum than the original Kuzu + Same Flashy Aesthetic =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Potentially too heavy - Even more expensive than the Original Kuzu 4-Tipped MSXA This MSXA includes the use of four HGG tips, two on each end, to increase the weight and length of the original msxa. =============================================== Pro's: =============================================== + Fully Customizable + Easy to upgrade from a previous MSXA + Extended Spinning Space + Medium-weight momentum =============================================== Cons's: =============================================== - Expensive The SX The SX mod was a play on the Minwoo SC mod B.) Double-sided 1.) Short Hands (16 cm - 18 cm) - Namae Mod - Ballsign KT 2.) Medium Hands(19 cm - 21 cm) - Cheat Comssa - Dr. KT - BusterCYL - Mr. somsak 3.) Large Hands (22 cm + ) - Sankaku Sailor Twin Mod - Vicgotgame Mod - CK Mod[/SPOILER]
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Date: Tue, Jul 27 2010 08:42:41
how do i make an g3-mx
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Date: Tue, Jul 27 2010 09:03:59
@razr: use the search bar i was kind enough to do it for you, and even kinder to search the v3 forum as well http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=4067&hl=g3-mx and iMatt, this is great, but maybe add the links to the tutorials for each pen, so 1. it stops "how do i make" posts and 2. its convenient and easy to find all the tuts edit: also, make more spoilers, so it breaks the post into more sections ie. have big subheadings for "beginner" "intermediate" etc. and have spoilers for "small hands" "big hands" currently, its a big wall of text under the spoilers great thread though, should be really helpful for the beginners
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Date: Wed, Jul 28 2010 16:46:47
I'm still editing in all the stuff. It's a huge article for me to try and finish alone.
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Date: Mon, Aug 2 2010 22:34:34
Should i buy a comssa metal like ---> http://penwish.com/product_info.php?products_id=720 - or should i go for the RSVP mx ---> http://penwish.com/product_info.php?products_id=630 - or the Buster CYL ---> http://penwish.com/product_info.php?products_id=924 as my first pen? :) keep it spinning :afro:
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Date: Mon, Aug 2 2010 22:56:54
Metal Comssa
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Date: Mon, Aug 2 2010 23:09:31
anything but the buster is fine for your experience level.
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Date: Mon, Aug 2 2010 23:10:13
Metallic comssa, light and balenced
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Date: Mon, Aug 2 2010 23:19:32
metal comssa, dont go for heavy as a beginner
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Date: Mon, Aug 2 2010 23:26:56
Dont get a buster as a beginner a metal comssa is balanced and the rsvp mx is front heavy both are light so its personal preference
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Date: Mon, Aug 2 2010 23:29:13
metal comssa is the best choice, as it's both light and very well balanced mx's are also light, but aren't balanced properly busters are for intermediate spinners or for those who have rather large hands
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Date: Mon, Aug 2 2010 23:39:21
Fran wrote: Dont get a buster as a beginner a metal comssa is balanced and the rsvp mx is front heavy both are light so its personal preference
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Date: Mon, Aug 2 2010 23:43:23
i meant back heavy lol :P
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Date: Mon, Aug 2 2010 23:49:53
yea go for the comssa or mx. mx cause it looks better comssa cause its balanced
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Date: Tue, Aug 3 2010 03:36:04
I'd say metallic comssa over mx. An mx w/ an hgg tip is just too unbalanced, if you're trying to learn, you're better off with something more balanced, even if the mx looks better.
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Date: Wed, Aug 4 2010 08:04:19
im a beginner and i love my buster! its my fav pen , and i dont see that changing ne time soon! but im sure these guys know what there talking about so i would lessen to them!
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Date: Wed, Aug 4 2010 12:39:00
please look here http://forum.upsb.info/showthread.php?t=160
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Date: Mon, Aug 16 2010 06:48:25
tut of fuco g3?
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Date: Mon, Aug 16 2010 07:37:29
yurchik wrote: tut of fuco g3?
Im getting around to updating this with pictures/links. Look on GPC. -
Date: Tue, Aug 24 2010 08:43:50
parang tanga lng hahaha
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Date: Tue, Aug 24 2010 08:47:33
how to be a pro??
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Date: Fri, Oct 15 2010 20:12:25
How do I make a DR.ST Im in america so its easy for me.
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Date: Fri, Oct 15 2010 20:17:58
@BlazinAsian http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=1117&hl=dr+st
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Date: Tue, Dec 21 2010 21:18:34
should or should i not the namae mod three and a half months of spinning
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Date: Tue, Dec 21 2010 21:22:54
sure why not? its not as heavy as KT and its a level above the comssa
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Date: Mon, Dec 27 2010 19:06:18
I've been spinning for about 3 months now and I'm wondering what pen I should get for late Christmas. I'm trying to look for a heavier mod thats also fairly long. What do you think? Metal Rushon Japanese Comssa? Buster CYL? The Namae? Flying Panda Mod? I don't care about price; this is my Christmas present!
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Date: Tue, Dec 28 2010 23:33:34
Aesthetically speaking I like the Flying Panda the best but spinwise I would suggest either the rushon comssa or the namae
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Date: Wed, Dec 29 2010 15:07:15
cool beans
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Date: Tue, Jan 11 2011 09:19:16
uhm what pen should i buy for a half boiled egg? O.o i can do the sonic , rev sonic ,ta, rev ta , fless ta, rev fgless ta, tw sonic, infinity, double infinity, figure 8, sonic rise, demons sonic, shadow, shadow still, triangle pass, bak, index around, rev index around, middle around, rev middle around, tw sonic bust, ex ta, fake double, harmonic ta maybe i still have some but im not sure please tell me what to buy thanks ps: i dont want one sided mods n expensive pens
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Date: Tue, Jan 11 2011 10:43:22
Wee Xin wrote: uhm what pen should i buy for a half boiled egg? O.o i can do the sonic , rev sonic ,ta, rev ta , fless ta, rev fgless ta, tw sonic, infinity, double infinity, figure 8, sonic rise, demons sonic, shadow, shadow still, triangle pass, bak, index around, rev index around, middle around, rev middle around, tw sonic bust, ex ta, fake double, harmonic ta maybe i still have some but im not sure please tell me what to buy thanks ps: i dont want one sided mods n expensive pens
Comssa Metallic. Double sided mod, ~$6 at max and really nice pen. -
Date: Wed, Jan 12 2011 13:38:08
i'm planning to get a pre modded 1 from penwish, is it ok? i want to get the metal sg comssa, can i get a buster too?
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Date: Wed, Jan 12 2011 13:48:29
no buster.goddamned heavy.weight is totally different from comssa
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Date: Wed, Jan 12 2011 13:58:19
uhm i feel like getting a few pens can u tell me what to get for it to be easy to learn combos? maybe gimme the links to penwish too thanks
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Date: Wed, Jan 12 2011 14:05:09
im not reary a pro here.but the onli thing i noe is tat if u just started...do not use buster.u may want to try and mx,or metallic comssa?
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Date: Wed, Jan 12 2011 14:35:34
or a bictory they are really good for beginners until you have access to more advance mods
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Date: Wed, Jan 12 2011 14:51:44
Eh the dr namae from penwish is mechanical pencil?
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Date: Wed, Jan 12 2011 19:18:20
No. it's not. @Wee Xin
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Date: Thu, Jan 13 2011 03:33:52
What do you think I should get? I am a beginner. Should I get a Metallic Comssa, RSVP MX, or something else? Is there any pen mods you recommend? Thanks. By the way, I already made 2 BICtorys, so I don't need that.
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Date: Thu, Jan 13 2011 03:51:30
Jacob8185 wrote: What do you think I should get? I am a beginner. Should I get a Metallic Comssa, RSVP MX, or something else? Is there any pen mods you recommend? Thanks. By the way, I already made 2 BICtorys, so I don't need that.
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Date: Thu, Jan 13 2011 13:16:29
@Tetsip so its a pen?or nothing?
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Date: Thu, Jan 13 2011 13:48:36
It doesn't write.
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Date: Thu, Jan 13 2011 14:06:48
if you want a pen,get an mx
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Date: Sat, Jan 15 2011 18:29:47
Do you think that I should get an Pentel RSVP MX, or do you think that I should get a MSXA? If one, why? What is the main differences and advantages between the RSVP MX and the MSXA?
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Date: Wed, Jan 19 2011 21:58:26
So I joined the UPSB forum a monthish or two ago? And well I asked what pen I should start off with. I said I had a Dr. KT and everybody was like "nuuuuu that's a bad pen for beginners." well not exactly but you get the point. So I ordered a comssa and honestly, I don't like it that much. It's so light that it is kind of even irritating because of its lightweight. I feel like I have no momentum. So I am currently spinning with a Flying Panda mod and a SC mod both of penwish. Maybe it's just that my first real spinning pen was so heavy that I got used to it? Anyway, out of curiosity, what was your first spinning pen? And does anyone else out there who didn't like the comssa as their first? Also, I'm trying to find a good mechanical pencil made for spinning. I love the pens and all but I kinda wanna spin WHILE taking tests. Makes me feel totally badass. :)
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Date: Wed, Jan 19 2011 22:52:54
Well, the comssa is annoying because you are so used to the KT now. I started with a comssa as well.
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Date: Wed, Jan 19 2011 23:19:29
Doesn't matter what everybody else says. You are the one spinning the mod. Spin whatever you feel is right. Personally, i think a kt is great for beginners. Just cuz it has so much momentum. So once you have the feel of the move and its in ur muscle memory, move to a lighter mod. Or else its just going to be difficult and you will get frustrated.
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Date: Wed, Jan 19 2011 23:23:51
That only works if the mod is moderatly heavy because if it is too heavy it could possibly hurt your hand. Alos statring with an extremly heavy mod stops you from using lighter mods down the road.
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Date: Wed, Jan 19 2011 23:31:13
Well I used the KT and now I switched to a Flying Panda mod and a Product SC mod which is definitely lighter than the KT but not by leaps and bounds compared to the weight difference of the KT and a comssa. Should I just spin the two I have now and maybe go down to a comssa in the future?
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Date: Wed, Jan 19 2011 23:34:18
Try to put signo tips on your comssa, or something of a similar weight like the Ajisai comssa (Emboss mod caps on a comssa body). Signo tipped mods are moderate weight providing a good amount of momentum since the tips are 3x heavier than HGGs but not insanely heavy like Dr. Grip tips.
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Date: Wed, Jan 19 2011 23:37:46
Get a GJH mod for good(reliable) mech pencil, I think it should be common practice to recommend a standard unsharpened pencil as a beginners pen. an unsharpened will spin better, and improve your spinning, more than half the mods you will ever own. (general statement, but holds true...)
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Date: Wed, Jan 19 2011 23:43:03
@shoeman6 my first mod was an unsharpened pencil, took off the eraser/metal thingy, and added two bicmatic grips on each end.....now that i think of it, it DOES spin better than most of my current mods lol
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Date: Thu, Jan 20 2011 01:50:27
i thought pens with lots of momentum were easier for a beginner because for example thumbaround, all you have to do is push it and it goes around by itself. My lighter mods dont really do that and i have to push it more around. I barely tap my buster to do TA. Why does everyone think buster is bad for beginner?
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Date: Thu, Jan 20 2011 01:57:18
Because people will become reliant on it. Someone who starts off with a buster is only hurting themselves because they will only be able to spin a buster later.
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Date: Thu, Jan 20 2011 01:58:39
Holypie wrote: Because people will become reliant on it. Someone who starts off with a buster is only hurting themselves because they will only be able to spin a buster later.
hey i can spin an mx, bictory, and unsharpened pencil with grips... but i still like my buster a lot more. -
Date: Thu, Jan 20 2011 02:04:00
The problem is not everyone can, and they'll use the buster as their only pen when they only know basic fundamentals. That and it hurts to use a buster, it's so heavy x_x
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Date: Thu, Jan 20 2011 02:48:55
It's bad for control, if you want to learn the motions with a buster go ahead, but you shouldn't use it to practice if you want to actually LEARN the trick..., especially early on, you could easily hurt your hands/cause unnecessary strain, and honestly, it's not as rewarding. You see a lot of accelerated learning these days because of these mods, which is great, but some people argue that it's important to actually know how to spin...
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Date: Wed, Jan 26 2011 01:40:50
I haven't read the entire 3pages, but I would appreciate it if thiss were in the pen mod section... I had trouble finding it... just saying... @iMatt
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Date: Fri, Jan 28 2011 06:09:13
What's a DC mod similar to waterfall? The only ones I know are pirat ks and ohayo dc. which i dont really like. I really want a waterfall, but dont wanna copy my friend. so whats a similar DC mod? Super pirat body preferred please. They feel good :) I have medium hands, i can spin an ayatori, minwoo dc mod.
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Date: Fri, Jan 28 2011 07:36:11
Try a ryo cheat comssa, it has somewhat similar dimensions. But really, dont worry about copying him, theres nothing wrong with it. It wont matter if you get the same mod as your friend. If you really like the mod, then make it. Or get a different color than him if your still scared of copying him.
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Date: Fri, Feb 4 2011 02:20:42
how do you get hold of this stuff what store can i find this in
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Date: Wed, Feb 23 2011 20:50:20
very nice and detailed
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Date: Tue, Mar 8 2011 02:55:17
Would you think that the Hybrid -DC- HGG is a good spinner pen? :help:
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Date: Wed, Mar 9 2011 05:51:00
III. (Intermiediate) What Pen Should I use?
shouldn't u switch ck mod with the buster. CK mod is 20.5 cm long weighs 18g while Buster (ball point and mech tips) is 21-22 cm weights 20 grams (gel) 18grams.Spoiler
[INDENT]A.) Single-sided[/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT]1.) Short Hands (16 cm - 18 cm)[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- G.J.H.[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Toro MX (Hi-tec C)[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- s777 MX[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- OverGround Mod[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT]2.) Medium Hands(19 cm - 21 cm)[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Spinner-named G3 Mods[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Impact MX[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Ayatori[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT]3.) Large Hands (22 cm + )[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Fuco G3 Mod[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Kuzu EXT[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- 4-Tipped MSXA[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- The SX[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT]B.) Double-sided[/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT]1.) Short Hands (16 cm - 18 cm)[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Namae Mod[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Ballsign KT[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT]2.) Medium Hands(19 cm - 21 cm)[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Cheat Comssa[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Dr. KT[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- BusterCYL[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Mr. somsak[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT]3.) Large Hands (22 cm + )[/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Sankaku Sailor Twin Mod[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- Vicgotgame Mod[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]- CK Mod[/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] -
Date: Wed, Mar 23 2011 22:53:42
Help! Should I choose Hybrid HGG², or Momentum MX?
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Date: Mon, Apr 18 2011 01:42:04
Would the Grip Avaire be considered a good mod for a beginner?
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Date: Mon, Apr 18 2011 01:47:02
spinnerhui wrote: Would the Grip Avaire be considered a good mod for a beginner?
No the mid gripscrews u up and it's too long get a tornado or waterfall or g2 cte vortex -
Date: Tue, Apr 19 2011 00:14:07
Eh I don't know if it makes that much of a difference. Maybe it does when you're learning your first few tricks or so but even at novice level it shouldn't be too much of a problem to deal with that grip. Grip Aviare is an alright choice imo.
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Date: Tue, Apr 19 2011 00:18:55
yeah but i think theres still better mods like waterfall
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Date: Tue, Apr 19 2011 00:22:48
Only problem with waterfall is that it costs quite a bit to make (for a beginner) and isn't very easy to get the parts in the U.S. or Canada. Super Pirats and Reynolds 094 are both European pens and the Dr. Grips are Japanese unless you go with the COG Dr. Grips.
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Date: Tue, Apr 19 2011 00:28:09
ehh lets jsut stick to a signo tipped commssa
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Date: Sat, May 14 2011 13:13:42
Oh Man... Im a beginner so is my friend and we 2 have bought a Buster.. is that bad .. ( btw is 1 month counted as a beginer?)
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Date: Mon, May 16 2011 00:23:49
lolful wrote: Oh Man... Im a beginner so is my friend and we 2 have bought a Buster.. is that bad .. ( btw is 1 month counted as a beginer?)
It's not [B]that[/B] bad, but you should probably work with lighter mods a bit -
Date: Mon, May 16 2011 10:35:41
ya... i did a True geller mod.. but we already bought the Buster...I've been ps for 1 month.. is that counted a s a newbie
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Date: Tue, May 17 2011 03:18:03
Can you all teach me how to make a pen glow:??!?!??!?!?!?
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Date: Tue, May 17 2011 03:24:36
lol i bought a Buster already TT :flapface:
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Date: Tue, May 17 2011 03:56:33
@lolful Make it yourself. It requires you own creativity. Nice triple post
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Date: Wed, May 18 2011 06:28:49
but how to get the glowing thing?
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Date: Sat, May 21 2011 21:58:20
ty this helped
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Date: Fri, Jun 24 2011 21:21:44
How do i distinguish myself from begginner or intermediate, so far i can do the all of the fundamentals, and trickier stuff like demon's sonic, sonic rise, twisted sonic, fake double, thumbaround rev, harmonic (kinda) done with an unsharpened pencil with double sided erasers and some hockey tape around it for grip and weight, it's still light though... What would you guys recommend me getting for my first legit mod, for smallish hands (16-18) cm.
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Date: Fri, Jun 24 2011 21:51:47
Jmuffslapps wrote: How do i distinguish myself from begginner or intermediate, so far i can do the all of the fundamentals, and trickier stuff like demon's sonic, sonic rise, twisted sonic, fake double, thumbaround rev, harmonic (kinda) done with an unsharpened pencil with double sided erasers and some hockey tape around it for grip and weight, it's still light though... What would you guys recommend me getting for my first legit mod, for smallish hands (16-18) cm.
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Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 01:54:18
I've been using heavy mods lately for power tricks, but I'm looking for one that's better for sort of a Korean style (or kind of like seven's style). What type of mods do you guys suggest.
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Date: Fri, Jul 22 2011 06:07:38
@Reason I really like medium weight mods. Waterfall, Cheat Comssa, basically any DC Signo tip mods work well. Or, if you're into G3 type mods, try Seven G3, Mesi G3, or K7 Hybrid. I really like those as well.
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Date: Fri, Sep 9 2011 11:52:12
[COLOR="darkred"]Thanks for the guide ^^,[/COLOR]
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Date: Sat, Oct 15 2011 05:45:04
Im a 4month spinner and am using a Minwoo mod is that bad?
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Date: Sat, Oct 15 2011 06:41:36
lol. I'm just a few month spinner and using a Buster CYL. I can't spin lighter mods. No momentum. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Date: Sat, Oct 15 2011 06:42:28
It doesn't matter what mod u are using. As long as you are comfortable with it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Date: Sat, Oct 15 2011 06:56:04
@fingerlessboy you should put your buster aside and start to practice with a few lighter mods like metallic comssas ect since your only a few months spinner
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Date: Sat, Oct 15 2011 06:57:34
@Tamashii you shouldn't be using a heavy mod since your only a 4 months spinner try spinning something lighter
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Date: Sat, Oct 15 2011 07:55:35
Eruption wrote: @Tamashii you shouldn't be using a heavy mod since your only a 4 months spinner try spinning something lighter
When can i start using heavier mods like waterfall / Minwoo / Buster? -
Date: Sat, Oct 15 2011 08:11:34
Tamashii wrote: When can i start using heavier mods like waterfall / Minwoo / Buster?
when you can actually pull of some decent combos -
Date: Sat, Oct 15 2011 08:39:30
alright thanks
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Date: Sat, Oct 15 2011 10:56:48
i am a 1 year spinner and i love my kt!!
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Date: Mon, Oct 17 2011 09:22:32
@Eruption ok. is tornado fine or need a mod lighter than that or i should go for RSVP MX?
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Date: Mon, Oct 17 2011 11:12:16
@fingerlessboy it depends on what you like more sc mods or dc mods but i personally like dc mods soo i will go for the tornado :D
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Date: Mon, Oct 17 2011 13:37:34
@Eruption Is Ayatori Mod ok?
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Date: Mon, Oct 17 2011 14:08:28
fingerlessboy wrote: @Eruption Is Ayatori Mod ok?
IMO ayatori is still pretty heavy...jus get an mx -
Date: Tue, Oct 18 2011 05:21:19
@fingerlessboy if you really want to get a sc mod you should just stick with the mx
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Date: Tue, Oct 18 2011 13:32:07
Think you should take the metallic commsa. I started with an mx too, then on a gather someone gave me another pen, and i learned very fast. I think mx is ok, it looks nice but try the commssa. For learning mx isnt so good. Try an Chubby mod, but i dont know whether it is available in america.
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Date: Thu, Oct 27 2011 20:09:43
does any body have a sx mod from PW?
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Date: Fri, Oct 28 2011 10:18:53
I'm a two month spinner, and I'm wondering if a Sunburst MX would be suitable for me. If not, I'll go for the RSVP MX, Metallic Comssa or BICtory mod as they are highly recommended by many spinners here.
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Date: Sun, Nov 27 2011 07:06:03
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Date: Thu, Dec 1 2011 05:21:53
Well, thought this was right place to post this....... I've been using a No. 2 pencil for a long time, and I want to move to something else because people tell me it's too light. I want either BICtory or a G2, which one is better/ easier to make?
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Date: Thu, Dec 1 2011 05:25:49
hiilikepie12345 wrote: Well, thought this was right place to post this....... I've been using a No. 2 pencil for a long time, and I want to move to something else because people tell me it's too light. I want either BICtory or a G2, which one is better/ easier to make?
People telling you it's too light are people who spin heavy mods. Keep spinning with light mods, when you're good with light mods you can spin any mod - light or heavy. People who spin heavy mods from the beginning struggle to spin light mods when they want to switch mods. -
Date: Thu, Dec 1 2011 12:08:49
emm...wat is mean by large hand? my hand can cover a waterfall mod then it called a big hand?
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Date: Thu, Dec 1 2011 12:22:29
measure how long your hands are. that's really only way to tell. if your hand can span a waterfall it's definitely not "small"
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Date: Thu, Dec 1 2011 12:22:58
Click on "What Pen Should I Use? (Newcomers)" then scroll down to large hands. See that number next to it? Do you see it? DO YOU?! Frog~
Newbie wrote: emm...wat is mean by large hand? my hand can cover a waterfall mod then it called a big hand?
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Date: Thu, Dec 1 2011 12:31:59
Zzzz i tot the the length is for pen....
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Date: Mon, Jan 16 2012 01:21:45
Hi people, quick question. I've learned all of the fundamentals in all finger slots, palm up and palm down, the twisted sonic, neosonic, infinity, twisted sonic bust, the shadow, the devils sonic, and the backfall. All i've spun is a metallic comssa and a namae mod so I'm thinking of buying some medium weight pens. Do you guys think it's okay to move on to the intermediate pens or should I learn more and wait?
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Date: Mon, Jan 16 2012 01:26:08
spin whatever you want to spin.... there arent any solid rules on how you should approach penspinning... Frog~
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Date: Mon, Jan 16 2012 01:28:07
Get a flying panda mod.... there smexy ;)
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Date: Mon, Jan 16 2012 01:37:53
Yeah I just want to make sure that I will be able to spin light mods later and not get screwed over...
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Date: Mon, Jan 16 2012 01:37:57
Merged to the pen mod started guide thread. Search before posting next time
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Date: Mon, Jan 16 2012 01:37:59
like wut frog said, its all personal preference just spin what you want, do what you want, and by looking your repertiore doing all that shouldnt be that hard i recommend the waterfall mod at this point
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Date: Mon, Jan 16 2012 01:38:25
Yeah I was planning on getting a flying panda mod lol :P
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Date: Wed, Jan 25 2012 04:22:43
difently the comssa never buy a buster
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Date: Tue, Oct 23 2012 13:56:34
Is there a general rule that goes something like "Your pen should never be more than __cm/mm/etc. longer than your hand"?
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Date: Tue, Oct 23 2012 14:29:16
no there is no rule. spin what you like
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Date: Fri, Nov 9 2012 16:25:50
currently using a rsvp mx with subbed tip and grip for better balance need a suggestion for a new pen my friend suggested the buster cyl because i have fairly good size hands az the rsvp is a little smaller than my hand and i want more of longer dc pen with good weight some mod ive been thinking of: Buster CYL Waterfall mod Also been suggested a Dr.KT so any help :) been spinning for about two weeks learning pretty fast
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Date: Fri, Nov 9 2012 16:30:37
I would recommend the waterfall mod.
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Date: Wed, Jan 23 2013 14:09:25
hi guys, what do you think of macquium mod for a beginner? but not like the first pen... i have a metal comssa, i just want to move on a heavier mod... thks
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Date: Mon, Feb 18 2013 07:00:08
Jonesps95 wrote: hi guys, what do you think of macquium mod for a beginner? but not like the first pen... i have a metal comssa, i just want to move on a heavier mod... thks
Fuck no. Thats will break your hands. Looks good but spins like shit. Get a waterfall if u want somrthing abit heavy -
Date: Mon, Feb 18 2013 08:49:49
Tommy wrote: Fuck no. Thats will break your hands. Looks good but spins like shit. Get a waterfall if u want somrthing abit heavy
Or a Buster. Although I know nothing about a Macquium mod except that it's DC, considered heavy, and @Jonesps95's post and he wants something higher than a metallic comssa. So yeah, try a Waterfall mod, or some other mild-weighted mod, then move onto a Buster if you want even heavier. But I don't recommend jumping from a metallic comssa straight to a Buster... let's be mature about this, but take it slowly. -
Date: Mon, Feb 18 2013 10:10:35
Jonesps95 wrote: hi guys, what do you think of macquium mod for a beginner? but not like the first pen... i have a metal comssa, i just want to move on a heavier mod... thks
I would recommend, if you have the chance, to try a few different mods. You never know which mod will suit you. -
Date: Mon, Feb 18 2013 10:21:28
PERSIST wrote: Or a Buster. Although I know nothing about a Macquium mod except that it's DC, considered heavy, and @Jonesps95's post and he wants something higher than a metallic comssa. So yeah, try a Waterfall mod, or some other mild-weighted mod, then move onto a Buster if you want even heavier. But I don't recommend jumping from a metallic comssa straight to a Buster... let's be mature about this, but take it slowly.
What difference is it honestly going to make between him using a waterfall and a buster. Zzzz... Ktrinh logic. -
Date: Mon, Feb 18 2013 11:54:03
@eurocracy: Execution. When you learn a new trick with a light pen and you can execute it perfectly with this light pen you will be able to execute this trick with every heavier pen as well. Vise versa when you learn a new trick with a heavy mod your fingers won't be able to exeecute the trick with a lighter pen.
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Date: Mon, Feb 18 2013 13:23:39
Syrti wrote: @eurocracy: Execution. When you learn a new trick with a light pen and you can execute it perfectly with this light pen you will be able to execute this trick with every heavier pen as well. Vise versa when you learn a new trick with a heavy mod your fingers won't be able to exeecute the trick with a lighter pen.
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Date: Mon, Feb 18 2013 14:39:11
eurocracy wrote: I've found that to be quite untrue.
+1 I started off with a buster and now I can still spin *decently* well with lighter mods. -
Date: Mon, Feb 18 2013 15:05:55
[QUOTE='[TGN];248426']+1 I started off with a buster and now I can still spin *decently* well with lighter mods.[/QUOTE] Yeah. I used a KT when I started cos it felt so damn nice. I can spin lighter mods pretty fluently.
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Date: Mon, Feb 18 2013 19:41:14
It was a recommendation, an opinion. I'm not, and no one should be, forcing anyone to do anything, I was merely giving my take and my experience on the topic. I'm sure some people beg to differ, but I personally find the answer "spin whatever you like" is a bit hard to learn from. If I were a beginner and read that, I would think "so.... I should spin whatever I want... a Buster or a Waterfall, though?" So what I'm trying to say is, it's an opinion, and a beginner could probably do well to start off with a heavy or light mod, I just thought a Waterfall would be a better choice.
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Date: Wed, Mar 6 2013 17:04:01
Does a good pen mod really help?
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Date: Wed, Mar 6 2013 18:08:37
eduguy wrote: Does a good pen mod really help?
Yes. While you can learn the fundamentals on normal pens, most combos need momentum to perform smoothly. All the mods I've heard of have more momentum than normal pens. The Bictory is light, but it is symmetrical and thus balanced, and it's momentum is increased considerably on adding a few random grips. Sent from my MK16i using Tapatalk 2 -
Date: Wed, Mar 6 2013 18:35:53
Do symetrical pens make it easier to perform trick?
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Date: Wed, Mar 6 2013 18:43:27
It's preference. I think there was an article in v3 describing how some tricks were actually easier with asymmetrical mods. Personally I like symmetric pen because of the consistency of weight, you can pick it up and know that both sides are the same weight.
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Date: Wed, Mar 6 2013 19:03:38
shoeman6 wrote: It's preference. I think there was an article in v3 describing how some tricks were actually easier with asymmetrical mods. Personally I like symmetric pen because of the consistency of weight, you can pick it up and know that both sides are the same weight.
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Date: Thu, Mar 7 2013 02:04:56
hi i've been spinning for almost 4 months, and i want to know are there some light mods that double sided, besides metal comssa and mx. right now i am spinning a waterfall and g3 mx.
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Date: Thu, Mar 7 2013 03:58:46
mx isnt duble sided silly XD. and what you can do is make a comssa bt add extra grips and diffrent tips that are lighter to make it lighter if its too heavy. other light DC mods are inverse comssa, flying panda, rsvp vortex, bictory and rushon mod ^^.
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Date: Thu, Mar 7 2013 23:43:01
What if you used a felt marker and put the cap of it on the back and used a different cap on the tip so there would be 2 caps on it. One on each side. Would that work?
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Date: Tue, Mar 26 2013 14:33:55
(i am hoping that replying to this two-week old thread isn't considered "reviving an old thread") @eduguy : I also do that when i forget to bring my mods w/ me at school or something :) . It works pretty well, only a little off balance, but still a lot better than nothing.
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Date: Fri, Mar 29 2013 22:43:27
It seems to work decent for me. Seems balanced. :)
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Date: Fri, Aug 30 2013 12:36:31
Hi. I am an intermediate spinner currently still spinning a BICtory -.- I am going to order from Penwish very soon and was wondering which pen mod I should get. I am currently deciding from : Product SC mod SX mod CK Silver mod Waterfall comssa Flying panda Which mod is the best for my experience level?
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Date: Thu, Sep 5 2013 01:11:43
Does an Air comssa good for a beginner with short hands ?? whats the weight and length ? Like this one:
Thanks!Spoiler
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Date: Thu, Sep 5 2013 02:11:52
Free-Way wrote: Does an Air comssa good for a beginner with short hands ?? whats the weight and length ? Like this one: Thanks!
Yeah this mod looks like it has some weight to it, it uses 2 signo tips I believe. If you are a beginner stay clear of these. @Ic3y if you are an intermediate spinner keep spinning a bictory or mod a RSVP MX as this will help you build style and make you godly. It also saves money as these mods are very expensive. I can mod an MX for you PM me. However if you really want one I suggest getting a waterfall or a flying panda as these are highly regarded as one of the best mods to spin with. Hope this helps and next time search for a relative thread and post there or give a quick shout on the shoutbox. Good luck and Happy Spinning! Regards Zen -
Date: Sat, Sep 7 2013 14:15:05
Hey. I'm in Australia. And btw what does PM mean. I know I sound like a noob lol. And how much will the mx cost?
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Date: Sat, Sep 7 2013 15:17:09
@Ic3y PM means private message. To do this click on someone's name and go to private message. An MX is about 7$ on Penwish plus shipping which a hell lot internationaly. I can mod it for you. Cheaper. PM me if interested. My trading thread CLICK HERE Good luck and Happy Spinning! Regards Zen