UPSB v4
General Discussion / Official UPSB Tournament Signups
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 04:09:43
Hi Everyone, The UPSB tournament is back! The aim of this tournament, like the previous one is to train spinners for the WT (Targeting the spinners that did not make the cut for the WC team or rising spinners that are close to but not yet at the WT/WC standard yet). This tournament will have a similar format as the previous UPSBT to maximise the number of battles between each participating spinner has. The top few spinners will be highly considered when it comes time to pick participants for the next WT. [SPOILER= Rules and Format] Tournament Format This will be a double elimination tournament meaning that the spinners will need to lose twice to be lose the tournament. There will be 2 brackets, the upper bracket and the lower bracket. When a spinner loses his/her battle, he/she will be knocked down to the lower bracket. Spinners in the lower bracket will have twice as many battles as the spinners in the upper bracket. and there will be a 3 week break for the winners of the upper bracket to accommodate the 2nd battle of the lower bracket. [B]Qualification Round[/B] Each spinner that signs up will have to submit a qualification video. The judges will rank each combo and the top 16 will qualify. Judging for this round will be 2 weeks. [B]Round 2[/B] Spinners will be seeded and matched up according to their rank in the qualification round (1st versus 16th, 2nd versus 15th). This means that the tournament tree is already set up. [B]Round 3[/B] Upper Bracket: The 8 winners of the previous round will move on to this bracket. Losers will move on to round 3.5 and winners will have a 3 week break whilst round before progressing to the winners bracket of round 4. Lower Bracket: The 8 losers of round to will be knocked down here. Winners will move to round 3.5 and the losers will drop out of the tournament. Round 3.5 This is an additional round in the lower bracket. Here the 4 losers from the upper bracket and the 4 winners from the lower bracket will battle to move on to round 4 in the lower bracket. [B]Round 4[/B] Upper Bracket: The 4 winners from the upper bracket battles will move on here and battle it out here. Lower Bracket: The 4 winners from round 3.5 will progress here. Round 4.5 The 2 spinners that will be knocked out of the upper brackets and the 2 spinners that win the the lower brackets will duel here to move on. [B]Round 5[/B] Upper Bracket: The 2 spinners that survives in the upper brackets of round 4 moves on here. Lower Bracket: The 2 spinners that survives round 4.5 of the lower bracket will progress here. Round 5.5 The loser of the upper bracket will battle against the winner of the lower bracket to move on to round 6. [B]Round 6[/B] The final battle between the consistent winner moving through the upper bracket and the spinner that has been slugging it out in the lower bracket will meet here for the final battle. [B]Schedule[/B] Each round (excluding the qualification round) will have 2 weeks of filming time and 1 week of judging time. However, at this point the number of judges that I have are 0 Feel free to send me a pm if you think you should be a judge. The videos for the qualification round are due on [B]5th June.[/B] [B]Video Format[/B] Videos should be between 10 and 25 seconds. Videos should be new material (previously unreleased). Videos should preferably uploaded to Youtube. PM me the youtube link, download link or attachment. [/SPOILER] [SPOILER=Sign ups] Preferably only UPSB members can sign up. However, If you aren't a UPSB native, feel free to sign up. This rule may change depending on when the turn out. Please post here if you are interested to join. You will be required to submit a new video for the qualification round by the 5th of June (The combo has to be new content as well). [B]QUALIFICATION VIDEOS[/B] JackyMacky : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNxXGaNqlQA Tigres : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Obep8zXn7Ds Yamaguchi : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T25nhMaEZHc Eriror : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BOHcNxbxY64 DioBrando : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dypRmlSwpM&feature=youtu.be Xienix : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyhpyJ2FFqM Rotation87 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOelRQKRDGU Dakrowl : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOgMX-u7n_M&feature=youtu.be i.suk : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEa6hBaOvaM Nashi : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GbovO28q54&feature=youtu.be eurocracy : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQaDHqVjmuk 3zy : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3VpsxWTrZc&feature=youtu.be daisy : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7bTtCFqfFw Guhz123 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NlNl_pw-ec&feature=youtu.be Reason : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbmfpSET_S0 neoknux_009 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcFFbTNj1C0 Far : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BJeB2juPEok Pixels : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb3ZhPuWazg&feature=youtu.be Mystic : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8zPF93cgo8 lovelife123 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=L8ezqu2guXo spenspinner : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VkHgF89wUGM Iota : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZruxYgVi7F0 Yxis : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=h7Vsk0tT__M Escorpio123 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JnpMR3TEM4 Planeta : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzW4RS0qhPg&feature=youtu.be Yozora : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CwjrkO3c4Gc fang : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzEaZI2KCWY&feature=youtu.be catfish : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMOtRXw4_Jg Gash : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dIn9igV8NHw HobbyLogics : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IaPalkyUKK4 flaming oracle : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbvolpdqfIA&feature=youtu.be Reverse : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZsumhBP5dg&feature=youtu.be Fire Ant : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnDYmaHc-dI ChainBreak : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbQlGxHIS68 coffeelucky : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rsJ2qDFw8w Zkhan : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W17KGJW-Zek magoochy : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyifzaVh4-A ~blast~ : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRvAyxFxamU Raus8 : http://www.mediafire.com/download/d80xhdb1x851dn9/Raus_UPSBT_qual_(re_film).wmv The Dane : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DBZHlxqnwE padrace : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3WfnzLLS84 x3silver : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwkU7eRTeEQ Miyuki : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m9VCkTqXPg ZXero : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAtHupY99z4&feature=youtu.be DArKT : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MCPPKBfxVP4 enterthedarkrealm : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeKrhpTEc0w yozhang : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip7uO-bNpkI&feature=youtu.be [/SPOILER] [SPOILER=Judging] Judging Scheme Judging in this tournament will be through justifications and voting not points system to give spinners a better idea on what they need to improve on. Judges will have to consider every aspect of pen spinning EG. execution, difficulty, creativity, overall presentation, variety, combo structure and overall impression. [B][COLOR="red"]Judges We need judges, PM me if you are interested in being a judge.[/COLOR][/B] Judges must be good at analyzing combos, responsive to PM's and able to submit their results on time. Judges will remain anonymous. Judges will be from other forums [/SPOILER]
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 04:18:22
/in I shall pay entry fee when I submit combo. ;)
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 04:20:03
/in i will donate the #2 that you wanted
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 05:21:08
/in :( I want more views in utube. huheheueheue
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 05:24:02
End-boss, signing up.
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 05:33:21
/in Walkaz
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 05:35:59
/in lol DDDD: x.x.x- -_------- :D
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 05:41:53
/in :)
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 06:59:46
/in Rotation87
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 07:44:36
check in
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 08:02:35
[B]/in[/B]
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 08:03:55
are you sure you want to follow the same format as last year, having 0.5 rounds :X
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 08:07:59
Erirornal Kraione wrote: End-boss, signing up.
final boss or true final boss? /in edit: also issue from upsbt 2012 about there being a possible R7 and strategic issues about this... -
Date: Wed, May 22 2013 08:23:48
/in
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 08:36:24
/in It is time
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 09:00:18
/in !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 09:13:04
/in how do i send my video?
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 09:20:22
/in
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 09:41:32
in Guhz123
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 10:10:57
/in.
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 10:31:29
Erirornal Kraione;259751]End-boss, signing up.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=i.suk wrote: /in
Don't tell me what I already know. Besides, I think you are forgotting... ...at this moment you're reading a monstor's post right before your eyes.
/in.
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 10:37:53
/in. Let's go m8.
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 11:57:40
well, this is going to be with AT but okaysss /in
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 12:52:19
Its about time! Im /in peeps!
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 13:39:03
/in lovelife
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 14:00:55
/in
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 15:02:32
/in when i get home and record a vid.
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 15:08:29
/in
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 15:22:44
/in lineup too stronk but for the sake of improvement... Also, just a couple thoughts, I agree with Alvaris and i.suk, R7 was stupid since it led to Alva and me battling twice in a row, for a total of 3 times I think that tourney, just have loser's winner battle the loser of winners finals for 2nd/3rd places or something if they want to, or say that winners loser gets 2nd and losers winner gets 3rd. Also, if you have such a long break between winners bracket rounds, and we do that many, it will take longer than WT to do this, imo it dragged on a bit much last year. I don't think winners bracket needs the 3 week break that much, make it 1 week at most if anything? EDIT: I'm also not so sure that non-UPSB judges only is such a great idea. If you do this, please actively seek out strong, competent, careful judges that have shown themselves to be analytical. Last year we had one or two solid judges, but I recall that one was hardly qualified and never even really commented on decisions, or overlooked what should be obvious at times. I like the idea, it would potentially lessen bias, but only if the judges you get are truly qualified. If you aren't able to meet that standard only considering non-UPSB, then I would recommend finding someone(s) from UPSB that have proven to be objective in judging and qualified to do so. Also, thank you for organizing dude!
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 15:46:08
/in
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 15:56:23
/in About time, even though the line up are very strong, Let's see if I have a chance :? at least for Round 1 :(.
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 16:06:19
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 16:22:28
/in Since I hav a high percentage at no chance in AT13... T^T & The line up is quite stronger than AT.. But It's worth for giving a try ^^
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 16:29:19
Not that I stand a change, /in. Lets do this, I hope to survive the first round...
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 16:32:01
/in
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 16:40:20
In
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 18:43:35
/in
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 19:21:01
/in me no good
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Date: Wed, May 22 2013 20:42:39
/in Finding an excuse to film more.
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Date: Thu, May 23 2013 00:18:57
in/ Spinford
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Date: Thu, May 23 2013 01:07:19
/in Demetrius, though I'll get shitted on :*(
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Date: Thu, May 23 2013 03:02:00
/in
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Date: Thu, May 23 2013 03:56:25
/in I don't think I'll make it that far, but I'll try my best.
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Date: Thu, May 23 2013 05:34:50
mother of god... great turnout so far for a local tournament!! :vcool:
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Date: Thu, May 23 2013 06:15:02
/in tho ima fail miserablely
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Date: Thu, May 23 2013 06:42:11
/in hopefully i can battle escorpio
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Date: Thu, May 23 2013 09:11:37
/in
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Date: Thu, May 23 2013 10:28:01
Zombo wrote: mother of god... great turnout so far for a local tournament!!
so.....does that mean your in ZOMBO!?!?!??! -
Date: Thu, May 23 2013 10:40:28
Holy shit dat lineup..... /in (maybe) Also are there any prizes or anything?
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Date: Thu, May 23 2013 11:01:59
[QUOTE="neoknux_009"]so.....does that mean your in ZOMBO!?!?!??! [/QUOTE] Basketball spin OF DOOOOM.
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Date: Thu, May 23 2013 11:12:19
/in come@mebrahs!
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Date: Thu, May 23 2013 12:52:20
/In Azure
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Date: Thu, May 23 2013 13:58:22
/in NIGGUHS
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Date: Thu, May 23 2013 14:43:51
dont you think the first video is due too soon? we dont even have a line up yet. (/ill be on holiday for a weekendand more so id like an extension for the first due date)
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Date: Thu, May 23 2013 15:03:56
/in got nothing to affraid off, even if i dont pass qualification round :/
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Date: Thu, May 23 2013 16:42:18
/in chlsps
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Date: Thu, May 23 2013 17:13:31
/in, dammit pls i will not miss this
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Date: Thu, May 23 2013 19:01:03
Not that I'm joining but I think a swiss-style tournament would be a great idea. No eliminations, but whenever you lose you are placed on a lower bracket. For instance, if there are 8 people and you lose round 1 then the best you can get is 5th place. There are problems with this too like how you only need to win one round to get 4th place, but to get 5th place you need to win 2. But the number of people is 1vs1 for every round except R1, kind of like the WTs except WT07. This tournament style is most common in chess competitions. Glad to pitch new ideas :)
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Date: Thu, May 23 2013 19:37:56
astronaut wrote: Not that I'm joining but I think a swiss-style tournament would be a great idea. No eliminations, but whenever you lose you are placed on a lower bracket. For instance, if there are 8 people and you lose round 1 then the best you can get is 5th place. There are problems with this too like how you only need to win one round to get 4th place, but to get 5th place you need to win 2. But the number of people is 1vs1 for every round except R1, kind of like the WTs except WT07. This tournament style is most common in chess competitions. Glad to pitch new ideas :)
That's not Swiss style at all though. -
Date: Thu, May 23 2013 20:29:09
Erirornal Kraione wrote: That's not Swiss style at all though.
I know R1 should be the same as any other round in Swiss, but is there really anything else I said wrong? -
Date: Thu, May 23 2013 22:54:01
astronaut wrote: Not that I'm joining but I think a swiss-style tournament would be a great idea. No eliminations, but whenever you lose you are placed on a lower bracket. For instance, if there are 8 people and you lose round 1 then the best you can get is 5th place. There are problems with this too like how you only need to win one round to get 4th place, but to get 5th place you need to win 2. But the number of people is 1vs1 for every round except R1, kind of like the WTs except WT07. This tournament style is most common in chess competitions. Glad to pitch new ideas :)
i dont think after one loss you automatically cannot reach 5th place. it all depends on how others are performing. in fact its possible for everyone to have the same win-loss record at the end of the tournament (.500) the final ranking is determined by w-l record, then by some form of tiebreaker. the problem with swiss is that it might take many rounds before the matchups become interesting. also keeping everyone involved every round will put a heavy strain on the judges. i would use swiss style tournament for a live tournament, or a "live" internet tournament (express tournament). say 2-3 hours, 10-12 participants. then we play 4 or 5 rounds. each participant has 30 minutes per round to produce one video. judges score live all the matchups. we rotate matchups using swiss format. could work!! it would result in higher quality combos than straight-up live tournmanet but with more time pressure not found in internet tournaments. -
Date: Fri, May 24 2013 00:34:01
Chobi wrote: /in, dammit pls i will not miss this
Yes!!!! Chobi's in! -
Date: Fri, May 24 2013 01:42:59
/in many solid spinner, interesting.
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Date: Fri, May 24 2013 01:59:27
/in
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Date: Fri, May 24 2013 02:01:05
Vic wrote: /in
HOLY FUCK! Great to have you back spinning ! <3 -
Date: Fri, May 24 2013 02:14:42
oh god give mercy on me im going to my corner and cry
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Date: Fri, May 24 2013 02:24:13
Vic wrote: /in
:O!!!!!! what!~ -
Date: Fri, May 24 2013 02:44:12
Vic's in UPSBT, Base God heard my prayers.
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Date: Fri, May 24 2013 02:44:54
Vic wrote: /in
GG -
Date: Fri, May 24 2013 03:52:57
Vic wrote: /in
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Date: Fri, May 24 2013 04:59:43
/in this is gona be fun ^-^
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Date: Fri, May 24 2013 05:34:38
/in if @Escorpio123 still interesting
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Date: Fri, May 24 2013 06:42:47
(looks at the signup list)
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Date: Fri, May 24 2013 09:54:02
/in blast
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Date: Fri, May 24 2013 10:17:37
IN
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Date: Fri, May 24 2013 10:21:59
@TheAafg can you extend... the first due date by a weekk....v-v
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Date: Fri, May 24 2013 12:42:30
Vic wrote: /in
True final end-boss :b @i.suk -
Date: Fri, May 24 2013 14:52:09
/in
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Date: Fri, May 24 2013 15:16:18
lol upsbt > wt :rofl:
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Date: Fri, May 24 2013 15:42:53
/in
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Date: Fri, May 24 2013 19:51:30
/in i will give you my 100%
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Date: Fri, May 24 2013 19:59:44
neoknux_009 wrote: @TheAafg can you extend... the first due date by a weekk....v-v
you have 14 days (2 weeks) to provide a simple qualification video. If you can't film a qualification video in 2 weeks, how can I expect you to submit tournament combos on time?
sorry if this seems harsh but I have had enough experience with "pls just 2 more dayz, camera broke"
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Date: Fri, May 24 2013 20:29:25
Guess I'm also /in then. I yet have to spin against Eriror in a tournament <3
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Date: Fri, May 24 2013 20:40:51
/in
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Date: Fri, May 24 2013 21:56:16
Zombo wrote: i dont think after one loss you automatically cannot reach 5th place. it all depends on how others are performing. in fact its possible for everyone to have the same win-loss record at the end of the tournament (.500) the final ranking is determined by w-l record, then by some form of tiebreaker. the problem with swiss is that it might take many rounds before the matchups become interesting. also keeping everyone involved every round will put a heavy strain on the judges. i would use swiss style tournament for a live tournament, or a "live" internet tournament (express tournament). say 2-3 hours, 10-12 participants. then we play 4 or 5 rounds. each participant has 30 minutes per round to produce one video. judges score live all the matchups. we rotate matchups using swiss format. could work!! it would result in higher quality combos than straight-up live tournmanet but with more time pressure not found in internet tournaments.
Oh that's very different from what I originally thought, thank you very much for the clarification. I thought of this while noticing that PS tournaments only have the losers play after losing the semi-finals(to decide 3rd place), but losers from top 8 rarely face off in pen spinning tournaments. How would we know people are obeying the time constraints though? And would there have to be eliminations in the first round unless the amount of people participating is an exponent of 2 like 16, 32, 64? -
Date: Fri, May 24 2013 22:40:19
astronaut wrote: Oh that's very different from what I originally thought, thank you very much for the clarification. I thought of this while noticing that PS tournaments only have the losers play after losing the semi-finals(to decide 3rd place), but losers from top 8 rarely face off in pen spinning tournaments. How would we know people are obeying the time constraints though? And would there have to be eliminations in the first round unless the amount of people participating is an exponent of 2 like 16, 32, 64?
its simple, you assign each spinner a random number every round that they have to display in their video while spinning. that way you know for sure this is a live video. also it'd be interesting if spinners stream themselves while recording, like on tinychat or something, although im not sure you can stream and record at the same time with two different programs. there would be no elimination. the beauty of the swiss format is that it works for any number of participants, even if it's not a perfect number. even odd number works, the weakest spinner after each round gets a bye for next round! let me write a proper document about the rules of "express" tournaments, then you can try it! -
Date: Fri, May 24 2013 22:45:04
in/ DerpyHooves
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 00:32:22
TheAafg wrote: you have 14 days (2 weeks) to provide a simple qualification video. If you can't film a qualification video in 2 weeks, how can I expect you to submit tournament combos on time? sorry if this seems harsh but I have had enough experience with "pls just 2 more dayz, camera broke"
There are a couple of reasons, (although im aware some are specific to me) 1. Ill be losing 4 days because of holiday. Ill be away from my desk and my camera. 2. I have this weird rash on my hand that prevents me from spinning seriously atm. Trying to get rid of it so i can spin properly. (lol ewwwwwww grosss!) 3. Its 1 extra week for the tournament to begin... Its not 3 weeks per round! So you dont have to worry about spinners trying to extend the date. At least Dont worry about me filming on time ...i think ive had enough experience with tournaments. 4. You just notified us of the tournament a couple days ago. In that time we've gathered heaps of spinners. If you extend by week maybe you can get more, and it gives the spinners as a whole to get prepared. 5. You notified us a couple days ago, then made the video due in 2 weeks a the same time. ??? So you started the tournament as soon as you declared the tournament exists? what? 6. ....a simple qualification vid? -.- LOOK AT THE FUCKING LINE UP!!!! Based on the rule, the qualification vid is going to be the MOST crucial. Its pretty much WT round 1 again. Probably harder. === /endrant. meh. its your call. -
Date: Sat, May 25 2013 00:37:15
Vic wrote: /in
So nice to have you here @TheAafg I like how you think, thanks for organizing this tournament, and for being strict about your decisions of Deadlines :thumb:. -
Date: Sat, May 25 2013 02:48:49
next thing you know supawit will be signing up too
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 04:06:00
/in yozhang'6 need to try this one.....
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 06:07:55
/in
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 06:14:10
Should we still even call this UPSB tournament?? Lol It's kinda like World Tournament round 2 :P
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 08:54:11
catfish wrote: Should we still even call this UPSB tournament?? Lol It's kinda like World Tournament round 2 :P
Yeah, still called UPSB tournament, because we are the UPSB's member -
Date: Sat, May 25 2013 10:59:30
/in ~
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 12:40:34
catfish wrote: Should we still even call this UPSB tournament?? Lol It's kinda like World Tournament round 2 :P
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 13:13:46
universal
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 14:11:11
Can't you extend the amount of qualified participants and not have the two-round knockout like last time. Otherwise this 'qualification' round is going to be brutal, like removing 75% of the signups
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 14:55:30
eurocracy wrote: Can't you extend the amount of qualified participants and not have the two-round knockout like last time. Otherwise this 'qualification' round is going to be brutal, like removing 75% of the signups
if we have the usual single-loss elimination but allow 32 people to pass, then we see less combos from the 32 people who do qualify (which overall will probably be weaker than those produced by the selected 16 in the existing 2-round knockout format) also, in a 32 people single-loss format, it'd be really bad for those who get unlucky matchups after qualifying, since the lowest few ranks would be pitted against the top few with no second chance (whereas people of their situation in 2-round knockout could still fight on in the lower bracket) you make a fair point though...even if a fair number of signups probably won't submit (and some of the strong guys might be rejected on basis of not being upsb-native in the slightest), only 1/3 people will pass ohwait that's same as WT r1 pool massacre OTL, there's disadvantages to either method :D -
Date: Sat, May 25 2013 15:04:30
DioBrando wrote: next thing you know supawit will be signing up too
Lol I know right? @Tommy me? Why me lol, Out of all the spinners here? :hmm: -
Date: Sat, May 25 2013 15:06:38
let's just kick the WT/WC spinners and not-upsb-native spinners. They already had their tourneys. How about giving the other spinners a go? >_>
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 15:36:43
lol by third round its just gonna end up being previous wt/wc players in a grudge match or wt part 2. also, what happens if the winner of upsbt is someone who has already represented another board for wt/wc in the past? wouldnt that be a slight conflict? who would they represent in wc14? just a thought...
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 15:41:06
People who represent other boards and are not native upsb spinners are [B]NOT [/B]eligible to be part of this tourny. If you read the first post, it talks about how this tournament is to train UPSB spinners for next world tournament. This isn't another WT, UPSB spinners will be given preference over people who spin for other boards.
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 15:59:03
@TheAafg so am i still eligible? I don't represent UPSB but I am pretty active here so...
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 16:38:50
Isn't VNPSB a grey area because it's a small-ish board. Kinda like PSUK but not THAT small. As in, you can't really host a tournament, whereas in big boards like GPC, FPSB, THPSC, JEB and so on, they can With regards to the WT/WC spinners, we have: Vic CoffeeLucky i.suk Gland Erirornal Kraione Alvaris Far Neoknux [B]Pixels Yamaguchi Sekai[/B] Twine Highlighted are Sekai, Pixels and Yamaguchi who did not make past Round 1 and should still be considered for this tournament. Notice how 12 WT/WC spinners are in this tournament. They are very likely to qualify and that leaves 4 spots for non WT/WC spinners who are very likely to get knocked out. WELCOME TO WT ROUND 2. Excluding the highlighted three, that is still 9 WT/WC spinners that are likely to take up greater than 50% of the available slots.
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 16:48:15
-Snip, doublepost. I get this mixed up with FP, which has automerge-
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 17:12:42
@eurocracy exactly my point lol. it defeats the purpose of upsbt. not saying that i dont wanna see a tournament with those guys in it (especially vic 0.0), but it doesnt really give us non-world-status-spinners a chance.
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 17:15:11
How about two tiers? (Just throwing ideas around)
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 17:29:23
@Nashi Interesting concept, would let people of around the same skill level face eachother and not get ruined by WT veterans
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 17:41:17
*sniff* I was in WT too... OTL I want to be kicked for that reason as well if the others are! Don't exclude me. =( That's racist! ^_^
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 18:09:51
Honestly i think all the spinners who are eligible should be able to compete. upsbt should be to find simply the best spinners in the upsb community. Maybe another tournament can be organized for people who don't want to be in the more elite upsbt.
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 22:01:27
padrace wrote: Honestly i think all the spinners who are eligible should be able to compete. upsbt should be to find simply the best spinners in the upsb community. Maybe another tournament can be organized for people who don't want to be in the more elite upsbt.
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 22:12:42
I think the low level WT/WC spinners should be eligible. They can practice themself here for next WT/WC. Btw I don't mind if you don't let me participate this cuz i'm not really UPSB native, just active quite much here.
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 22:26:53
The WT/WC spinners should stay, for sure. If all the weak spinners battled it out, how would that get you up to WT levels when that level isnt even present in the tourney. Besides, its a UPSB tournament. All UPSB native spinners should definitely be in this! Its to show ALL the best spinners of UPSB, not just "best spinners that arent already in tournaments". Thats stupid, cuz some of those wt spinners didnt even make it far, so maybe they need the practice too!! Since ALL of our spinners lost, they all deserve the practice.
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 22:39:58
@Mystic That just leads to WT spinners completely dominating everyone else. Many spinners in this tournament are unlikely to have really pushed themselves before or have joined a tournament, and you're talking about pitting them against opponents that will knock them out with ease. If you leave the WT guys in you get Vic vs Eriror vs i.suk at the end. This ism't even going into how the new guys won't be able to JOIN the tournament and qualify because over half the qualifier slots will be taken by WT/WC level spinners. Likely leading to only WC/WT spinners in 2 rounds. How is that training. How is someone going to be motivated to try and qualify much less when they get pitted against WT spinners in Round 1.
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 22:40:16
eurocracy wrote: Highlighted are Sekai, Pixels and Yamaguchi who did not make past Round 1 and should still be considered for this tournament. Notice how 12 WT/WC spinners are in this tournament. They are very likely to qualify and that leaves 4 spots for non WT/WC spinners who are very likely to get knocked out. WELCOME TO WT ROUND 2. Excluding the highlighted three, that is still 9 WT/WC spinners that are likely to take up greater than 50% of the available slots.
I brought up the idea of not letting wt/wc spinners participate but it is really not fair as they are also equal members of upsb. we had the intermediate tournament for spinners who are not wt level but I can't exclude wt level spinners on upsb. remember upsbt has two purposes : to train some spinners for the next world tourny, and to determine the #1 spinner on upsb. will update the list of spinners tonight, check to see if your name says disqualified or not. -
Date: Sat, May 25 2013 23:02:40
eurocracy wrote: @Mystic That just leads to WT spinners completely dominating everyone else. Many spinners in this tournament are unlikely to have really pushed themselves before or have joined a tournament, and you're talking about pitting them against opponents that will knock them out with ease. If you leave the WT guys in you get Vic vs Eriror vs i.suk at the end. This ism't even going into how the new guys won't be able to JOIN the tournament and qualify because over half the qualifier slots will be taken by WT/WC level spinners. Likely leading to only WC/WT spinners in 2 rounds. How is that training. How is someone going to be motivated to try and qualify much less when they get pitted against WT spinners in Round 1.
Youre not thinking about it the right way. If someone can get knocked out with ease against a WT spinner, then they should really not be thinking about going in the WT anyways. Its the people who make it the furthest in the tournament who belong in the WT. And yes, you will have your WT spinners by r2, thats the point. Pitting weak spinners against weak spinners does nothing for anyone. -
Date: Sat, May 25 2013 23:07:51
if the demand is there, i dont see why there should be multiple tournaments, which could be held at different times with different requirements...
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 23:20:00
High level not WT spinners is as strong as low level WT spinners. Don't underestimate them just because they aren't in WT/WC and don't overestimate just because they are in WT/WC. (Like me who are the fucking weak WT spinner.)
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Date: Sat, May 25 2013 23:56:26
Soo, if you wanted to disqualify people from other boards, why are there still spinners from other boards participating (who even participated for another board in WT/WC)? Isn't that quite random then, if you kick some and let others stay in? In regards to that requirement, I'd even understand if I wouldn't get in (although I want to stay in, heh). IMO.
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 00:40:23
Mystic wrote: Youre not thinking about it the right way. If someone can get knocked out with ease against a WT spinner, then they should really not be thinking about going in the WT anyways. Its the people who make it the furthest in the tournament who belong in the WT. And yes, you will have your WT spinners by r2, thats the point. Pitting weak spinners against weak spinners does nothing for anyone.
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 01:29:37
It's not about having no chance at all against the WT spinners, it's just that I know that currently I have pretty low chances of winning against them. And even if I did I would probably end up using all the difficult linkages I have. Also if I can face spinners that are on my level or at least a similar level the better chances increase the motivation to improve. For me that would be spinners like yama, fang and coffelucky that I know are somewhere around my level who I know I have realistic chances ofbeating.
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 03:34:44
It's a tournament for the board though, if you want battles with people only your skill level, below, or slightly above your skill level, just go organize a battle. Multiple tiers, Intermediate & Veteran, would not be a bad idea. One qualifier round overall though determining placement. Say, top 16 or whatever are in Veteran Bracket, and then the following 16 people are in Intermediate Bracket, for a total of top 32 qualified. Then the two brackets run the same schedule parallel to each other but separate. Also,
The Dane wrote: *sniff* I was in WT too... OTL I want to be kicked for that reason as well if the others are! Don't exclude me. =( That's racist!
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 03:39:18
This is supposed to be a competition of all of UPSB. If spinners are too afraid to challenge themselves to face spinners more talented, then dont join and go do private battles or join/start some other random tournament. I have no hope of beating some of these people, but Im in it for the challenge, Im in it for the opportunity to face great spinners head on, and most importantly Im in it TO HAVE FUN!
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 03:41:39
Mystic wrote: This is supposed to be a competition of all of UPSB. If spinners are too afraid to challenge themselves to face spinners more talented, then dont join and go do private battles or join/start some other random tournament. I have no hope of beating some of these people, but Im in it for the challenge, Im in it for the opportunity to face great spinners head on, and most importantly Im in it TO HAVE FUN!
Yes, but it's understandable that people would like two brackets/tiers, given that the entire group of people qualifying will most likely be WT-level or just below it, i.e. most people won't even be in it at all. -
Date: Sun, May 26 2013 04:07:24
Iota wrote: Yes, but it's understandable that people would like two brackets/tiers, given that the entire group of people qualifying will most likely be WT-level or just below it, i.e. most people won't even be in it at all.
There isnt that many WT level spinners. Theres probably like 5-6 "WT Level" spinners here leaving at least 10 spots open for anyone else good enough to qualify. I didnt go and actually count but this is a general guess based on the list i looked at. Dont judge me :) A 2nd tier is absolutely pointless. You might as well start a completely separate tournament. -
Date: Sun, May 26 2013 05:42:37
sign me up - AoD1 finally something I can use all my new material iv came up with and been working on for all this time.
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 06:41:12
AoD1 wrote: sign me up - AoD1 finally something I can use all my new material iv came up with and been working on for all this time.
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 07:05:16
Mystic wrote: There isnt that many WT level spinners. Theres probably like 5-6 "WT Level" spinners here leaving at least 10 spots open for anyone else good enough to qualify. I didnt go and actually count but this is a general guess based on the list i looked at. Dont judge me :) A 2nd tier is absolutely pointless. You might as well start a completely separate tournament.
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 08:34:24
I actually agree with some of eurocracy's idea but
Mystic wrote: This is supposed to be a competition of all of UPSB. If spinners are too afraid to challenge themselves to face spinners more talented, then dont join and go do private battles or join/start some other random tournament. I have no hope of beating some of these people, but Im in it for the challenge, Im in it for the opportunity to face great spinners head on, and most importantly Im in it TO HAVE FUN!
^ That Not allowing WT/WC spinners to join sounds pretty ridiculous for the concept of UPSB Tournament. I mean, this whole tournament, in term of epicness or ranking, it should be second only to WT and WC. So, it is perfectly reasonable for WT/WC spinners to be joining. Think of like, a state competition or something that world-class ranking people can join too. If you get chickened out or still not good enough to join then wait for a new tournament to form/form a tournament with rules that is suitable for spinners range from beginner to intermediate only then get in action. I also think that the tournament format here is forgiving for those that are good enough who really want to progress. On the side note, I think I'm in, maybe. D: /in Just for fun because I don't even think I'm going to make it through the qualification round -
Date: Sun, May 26 2013 08:48:42
of course WTWC spinners should be included. Theres no point in being placed 1st of UPBS if you dont even know if your better than the WTWC spinners. As for excluding other boards... I do agree with this. I dont mind people who are major posters here and have contributed much to the board, such as nashi... but spinners like leftfinger, dane, cofeelucky, who have already represented their board in the world competitions.... mmm id be awkward for them to participate. It would be like having Michael Jordan coming over to dominate a national basetball tournament... in Australia....lol....what? It would make no sense to crown a non upsb spinners the best "UPSB" spinner. Don't get me wrong, i love facing coffeelucky and would love to face leftfinger, but lets save that for the World tournament. If not, maybe we can have a future inter board tournament like UPSBxFPSB tournament. Or, ive always liked the idea of having a European tournament similar the to the Asia Cup.
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 10:02:26
neoknux_009 wrote: Or, ive always liked the idea of having a European tournament similar the to the Asia Cup.
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 10:33:23
What is wrong with a normal tournament format? :rolleyes:
The aim of this tournament, like the previous one is to train spinners for the WT (Targeting the spinners that did not make the cut for the WC team or rising spinners that are close to but not yet at the WT/WC standard yet)
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 13:10:50
eurocracy;260143]There are 13 WT/WC spinners BRO. NOT 6[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Mystic;260135]There isnt that many WT level spinners. Theres probably like 5-6 "WT Level" spinners here leaving at least 10 spots open for anyone else good enough to qualify.[B] I didnt go and actually count but this is a general guess based on the list i looked at.[/B] Dont judge me :) A 2nd tier is absolutely pointless. You might as well start a completely separate tournament.[/QUOTE] Besides, I said "WT level", not anyone who got lucky to get in the WT and get kicked out first round. How many of our spinners actually won the WT. Thats right, none. They all deserve the practice as much as anyone else. Obviously our WT spinners arent as good as they could be. And it wouldnt be fair to them to not let them practice anymore in a tournament setting simply because they worked their ass off to get as good as they are. Again, if youre afraid of a challenge and cant accept the fact that there are always gonna be spinners better than you, then maybe you really shouldnt be thinking about doing tournaments. What are you gonna do if you get into WT? "OMG these spinners are too good! Havent they proved themselves enough? Kick them out and let the weak spinners have a chance!" That's stupid. [QUOTE=Mats wrote: What is wrong with a normal tournament format? :rolleyes: So glad to see people ignoring this!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
I think he just copy/pasted that whole first post from the last UPSBT or so, because the next WT is a year and a half away, we arent even done with THIS one yet! So it cant really be training for WT when its that far away. -
Date: Sun, May 26 2013 13:32:11
Yep, I like @neoknux_009 idea. I've think about something like International Tournament (for intermediate-high level spinners) while organizing Asian Tournament. Then leave this thing for UPSB members. Anyway I want to join just for fun and motivate myself a little and hope that I can go through 2-3 round and have some great battles with some great spinners (WT is too insane for me).
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 14:05:30
God damn this stupidity. So you say I can improve a lot by facing a stronger spinner and getting kicjed out in the first round. Are you stupid or something? It should be quite obvious that someone will improve more when facing more spinners. For that to happen the level of the participating people in a tournament like that should be near equal to allow the same chances for everyone to face more spinners. That's the way to determine the best individual of a group. If you just throw random weaklings in there it's obvious that some spinners will have a more difficult time in the tournament than others.
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 14:24:59
ChainBreak wrote: God damn this stupidity. So you say I can improve a lot by facing a stronger spinner and getting kicjed out in the first round. Are you stupid or something? It should be quite obvious that someone will improve more when facing more spinners. For that to happen the level of the participating people in a tournament like that should be near equal to allow the same chances for everyone to face more spinners. That's the way to determine the best individual of a group. If you just throw random weaklings in there it's obvious that some spinners will have a more difficult time in the tournament than others.
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 15:54:54
Well THIS one is supposed to train upsb spinners to be able to participate in wc/wt What you suggest is : We just make the strong spinners stronger and the next generation can go fuck itself.
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 15:56:39
You can't have both reasons to hold a tournament, they do not mesh. If you want to decide the best spinner on the board, have a battle i.suk vs vic vs eriror, if you want to train people, make a fairer tourney. So which reason are you pursuing?
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 16:05:55
Nashi wrote: How about two tiers? (Just throwing ideas around)
^ Instead of struggling about what is better between a useless tournament because of only UPSB natives ("a tournament is made for training for WT", best joke ever) and a useless tournament because of weak spinners being kicked r1, why don't you actually think about a real good way of running a tournament ? -
Date: Sun, May 26 2013 16:29:41
So have two tournaments. UPSB Tournament to decide the board champion UPSB Practice Tournament for training
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 16:53:21
Mystic wrote: Besides, I said "WT level", not anyone who got lucky to get in the WT and get kicked out first round. How many of our spinners actually won the WT. Thats right, none. They all deserve the practice as much as anyone else. Obviously our WT spinners arent as good as they could be. And it wouldnt be fair to them to not let them practice anymore in a tournament setting simply because they worked their ass off to get as good as they are. Again, if youre afraid of a challenge and cant accept the fact that there are always gonna be spinners better than you, then maybe you really shouldnt be thinking about doing tournaments. What are you gonna do if you get into WT? "OMG these spinners are too good! Havent they proved themselves enough? Kick them out and let the weak spinners have a chance!" That's stupid.
It isn't about challenge, because if we don't allow for a second tier (which, by the way, IS a second tournament effectively, run in parallel for smoothness/conveniece, that's the point of the two brackets), you WILL NOT qualify, almost certainly, based on the number of WT level or low-WT level spinners participating. I believe it was counted at roughly 13, and idk if that included Dane and I. Also, just because we lost the first round, does not mean we "got lucky" -- we would still crush your spinning, or the spinning of some other intermediate participants unless they skillboost insanely which, to be honest, rarely if ever happens in such a short time period. Besides, the whole point of having a single qualifier but two brackets is SO THAT THIS IS POSSIBLE. You want a challenge? Fine, the challenge is to actually make Veterans bracket, but let's not be too unrealistic, there is no practice, challenge, or even fun, if a gigantic chunk of people trying to qualify don't even get to participate in any way, or with people roughly around their skill levels. Hell, I probably won't qualify, how can some others expect to get a chance to spin with the lineup we currently have? A second tier would allow the people (who will undoubtedly still be strong spinners at near-WT level, and/or who lost in the first round like myself) that make spots 17-32 to still be able to compete and train for the next WT. Tournaments are a great way to increase one's skill, last year when I joined UPSBT that was my personal aim. That a person isn't WT level is a poor reason to avoid competition altogether, it's one of the points of having a UPSB Tournament. Also, @eurocracy, two tiers/brackets, Veteran & Intermediate, effectively do just that, except that having a single qualifier will allow people the challenge and opportunity for Dark Horses/upsets. That way, if you somehow go ham and skillboost hard and film a sick combo, but aren't one of the WT level spinners or something, you could still qualify top 16 and get to be in Veteran bracket, and if not, you'll get to do Intermediate bracket anyway. This way, you aren't locking in whether you think you've got a chance in Veteran, or being forced to play it conservative by waiting for a UPSB Practice tournament, it's simply determined which bracket you place into by the single qualification round. I cannot recommend this method enough, it would pretty much solve the complaints/concerns that everyone has voiced. -
Date: Sun, May 26 2013 16:56:04
All the spinners that don't spin for upsb have been disqualified. If you were disqualified and spin for upsb, pls make a post or send me a visitor's message.
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 17:03:29
Guys. Yolo. However I'm out for this one and i hope an AD member wins this(sun) have fun :3
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 17:10:19
Too much complaining here. If youre in, youre in. If all youre gonna do is whine, dont join. Simple.
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 17:18:34
i.suk will be the winner of this tournament ! ♥
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 17:43:19
Mystic wrote: Too much complaining here. If youre in, youre in. If all youre gonna do is whine, dont join. Simple.
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 17:53:27
@Iota Your method is pretty much perfect, rude that Mystic doesn't even read other people's posts -.-
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 18:36:37
Iota;260187]You didn't read a thing I said, did you?[/QUOTE] Of course I did. All youre doing is being unrealistic and not understanding the true purpose of this tournament. [QUOTE=eurocracy wrote: @Iota Your method is pretty much perfect, rude that Mystic doesn't even read other people's posts -.-
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 19:01:19
[20:37:36] Leftfinger: Haha guyz, you are just racists, segregationists and Aryans. You just want your poor blood to avoid diversity and you are scared by the fact that your UPSBians can't win their proper tournamant. INCREDIBLE, YOU TURNED IT INTO A POWERTRICK TOURNAMENT, BRAVO ! Plus, how can you say that I'm not more UPSBian than FPSBian ? Yes I'm french, but screw it, I don't want to speak the same language as A13x because he is the biggest dumbass ever seen in the whole PS world. I DISOWN MY FRENCH ROOTS BITCHES. WHAT IF I DELETED MY ACCOUNT FROM FPSB ? Don't tell me that you want my identity card for your tournament ? NAOW GIMMEH MAH PLACE IN DIS TORNAMENT §§§!!1one§1!* (It was a troll )
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 20:03:47
Leftfinger outleftfinger'd himself.
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Date: Sun, May 26 2013 20:33:38
Mystic wrote: Of course I did. All youre doing is being unrealistic and not understanding the true purpose of this tournament. How ironic :p
He's not being unrealistic at all, what the hell man. He just suggested a solution to both problems. 0/10 you obviously did not read it. -
Date: Sun, May 26 2013 22:24:12
Hm hard to explain this... For me this has again taken a quite~ drastic turn. ("Again" as referring to some recent topics) I don't care about this being a tournament to decide UPSB (universal(!) penspinning blah~) best spinner or next wc/wt spinners. Count me out of that... For my instance it was more something like a great opportunity to participate in a tournament outside of GPC ... GPC is actually more than dead (or less than active?) regarding "pro" Penspinning or tournaments. But well. Maybe WC 14 then... Peace
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Date: Mon, May 27 2013 00:09:47
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Date: Mon, May 27 2013 00:40:28
/in Why not
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Date: Mon, May 27 2013 01:55:48
Mystic wrote: Of course I did. All youre doing is being unrealistic and not understanding the true purpose of this tournament.
Then you clearly didn't comprehend it. It's completely realistic, and totally simple to execute. The "purpose" statement for the tournament is a copypasta, that is one of many purposes, above all it's simply a board-wide tournament, and you're being unrealistic if you think anyone, yourself included, but the pros and low-tier WT guys will qualify top 16. However, I'm tired of trying to talk at you, "drama" in tournament threads is stupid and getting really old (sorry about that all .-_____.- I couldn't help myself from saying something). Good luck in R1. -
Date: Mon, May 27 2013 06:53:52
/in
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Date: Mon, May 27 2013 08:44:46
GLHF bitches
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Date: Mon, May 27 2013 09:43:22
... Round 1: Eurocracy VS Mystic
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Date: Mon, May 27 2013 10:45:30
While you guys where done with making a drama out of the world tournament, UPSBT is next...what a surprise...
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Date: Mon, May 27 2013 10:58:48
fang wrote: While you guys where done with making a drama out of the world tournament, UPSBT is next...what a surprise...
Why even post if you're not going to contribute something. Have you even read the issues outlined in this thread or do you see pages, skim everything and go 'lol drama'. That is not what I'd expect from a moderator -
Date: Mon, May 27 2013 11:04:11
My name is still in the first post, this mean I can join? Btw guys, organizing the tournament isn't easy, especially when you want to please all of people in the community. And the tournament may have it's objective but the participants also have their objective too, mine is like Dane, THPSC is quite inactive now and I can do only host the tourney for activate community so I can't participate it, so I must find other tourney to participate.
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Date: Mon, May 27 2013 11:18:27
coffeelucky wrote: My name is still in the first post, this mean I can join? Btw guys, organizing the tournament isn't easy, especially when you want to please all of people in the community. And the tournament may have it's objective but the participants also have their objective too, mine is like Dane, THPSC is quite inactive now and I can do only host the tourney for activate community so I can't participate it, so I must find other tourney to participate.
WAT THPSC? INACTIVE? NUUUUUUUUUUUUUU -
Date: Mon, May 27 2013 11:37:24
eurocracy wrote: Why even post if you're not going to contribute something. Have you even read the issues outlined in this thread or do you see pages, skim everything and go 'lol drama'. That is not what I'd expect from a moderator
So as a moderator I am not allowed to go "lol drama"? It's crystal clear you don't see the purpose of the post. I was meant to say that I think people are taking this way to serious and personal. Penspinning should be for fun and although I understand the issues and I approve for a good discussion about format and participants. -
Date: Mon, May 27 2013 15:43:09
Well so I had a chance to read the thread and my God what a thread... A few comments. Firstly, the stupidity of some posts in this thread is nothing short of astounding. People misunderstanding each other, making ludicrous suggestions or not even reading posts properly before replying. :rolleyes: This thread is the width of a straw short of a calamity. With that said, somewhere in amongst the fodder, some very exciting names have signed up to this tournament and I believe that we shall see some of the best combos UPSB and the pen spinning world has ever produced. We have a killer end boss and a main character who slayed him on the last level, along with several people who could well prove to be game bosses themselves. I, like many others, shall stand here on the battlements awaiting a tournament that will be one of the best witnessed here on UPSB. The spinning, the results and the public created drama, will create a spectacle most impressive and entertaining and I look forward to seeing it greatly. Lastly, good luck to all the entrants and may the best spinner win! @Ivabra - Withdrawing? So sad. :( I always consider you a dual member - Of BPSC and UPSB. Sad to see you not in this tournament. I guess we can look forward to a solo from you or something soon though? *hopes*
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Date: Tue, May 28 2013 08:48:49
fang wrote: So as a moderator I am not allowed to go "lol drama"? It's crystal clear you don't see the purpose of the post. I was meant to say that I think people are taking this way to serious and personal. Penspinning should be for fun and although I understand the issues and I approve for a good discussion about format and participants.
Nobody is taking it personally, for once this is where we don't see insults being thrown around on the forum, but you haven't read through the thread. Serious? Are we not allowed to take things seriously, I don't see who you are to say that we should or should not take things seriously, and WT spinners for example certainly do take it seriously. The 'drama', was the discussion about the format and participants, so you're happy with what you just called drama? I don't get it, so the drama isn't drama in actuality? Your post made zero contribution to this thread but to mock everyone discussing it by saying what they have said is drama. @TheAafg Will you consider Iota's proposal? -
Date: Tue, May 28 2013 09:53:40
@TheAafg can you make the due date at least due on a weekend day? not randomly on a Wednesday... And have you realized yet you started the tournament at the same time you declared it?
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Date: Tue, May 28 2013 10:01:27
fang wrote: So as a moderator I am not allowed to go "lol drama"? It's crystal clear you don't see the purpose of the post. I was meant to say that I think people are taking this way to serious and personal. Penspinning should be for fun and although I understand the issues and I approve for a good discussion about format and participants.
Lool i bet he just wants to be a moderator... Hahaha well guess what Its not gonna happen. -
Date: Tue, May 28 2013 10:46:53
neoknux_009 wrote: @TheAafg can you make the due date at least due on a weekend day? not randomly on a Wednesday... And have you realized yet you started the tournament at the same time you declared it?
i agree with this, if it's being this way, and saying that judging takes 2 weeks exact for the first round and next round onwards and if the tournament goes on without any breaks, everyone would have to film by on a weekday when they may be busy :/ -
Date: Tue, May 28 2013 11:44:25
eurocracy wrote: Will you consider Iota's proposal?
the problem currently is that I don't have judges. There's not enough qualified judges available whether it be from upsb or even other boards. Having two different tiers works but it puts a lot of pressure on the judges and as of right now I have less that 2 judges that I can depend upon. -
Date: Tue, May 28 2013 12:36:18
Lol, @TheAafg so can I still participate this tourney or not?
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Date: Tue, May 28 2013 13:48:11
/in -'
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Date: Tue, May 28 2013 16:36:37
coffeelucky;260378]Lol, @eurocracy you're the one who made people think this is "lol drama" thing. You just go around and blame everything you don't like but not really important at all.[/QUOTE] If it's not important at all, why were there a crapton of people making the exact same point as me in previous pages. Way to act like I'm the only guy posting here and I'm creating all the 'drama'. Rather, the only drama here is occurring by people not reading what's been posted and complaining that the entire thread is drama (Which isn't you, by the way, but I still don't see your point) Additionally, I was one of the few that didn't care about spinners from other communities and never made that argument, focusing on the fact that the tournament looked like a recap of the world tournament, so I was never against you or the other disqualified spinners. [QUOTE=Tommy wrote: Lool i bet he just wants to be a moderator... Hahaha well guess what Its not gonna happen.
I don't want to be a mod, I've been a moderator of multiple forums and administrator of the old iPRO forums. I do know what I'm talking about when I say you shouldn't strive to be a mod, but I do know that when you become a mod, you lose a lot of the power to make posts that you used to be able to, because you have to be largely impartial or it looks like you're tipping power around. Not that you're a person to say who is a good person to be a mod, considering the other post in your thread is that I "never think", when what I said was backed up by a large amount of the thread. Uh, yeah, nice try. -
Date: Tue, May 28 2013 17:27:49
[QUOTE=Iota;260177]It isn't about challenge, because if we don't allow for a second tier (which, by the way, IS a second tournament effectively, run in parallel for smoothness/conveniece, that's the point of the two brackets), you WILL NOT qualify, almost certainly, based on the number of WT level or low-WT level spinners participating. I believe it was counted at roughly 13, and idk if that included Dane and I. Also, just because we lost the first round, does not mean we "got lucky" -- we would still crush your spinning, or the spinning of some other intermediate participants unless they skillboost insanely which, to be honest, rarely if ever happens in such a short time period. Besides, the whole point of having a single qualifier but two brackets is SO THAT THIS IS POSSIBLE. You want a challenge? Fine, the challenge is to actually make Veterans bracket, but let's not be too unrealistic, there is no practice, challenge, or even fun, if a gigantic chunk of people trying to qualify don't even get to participate in any way, or with people roughly around their skill levels. Hell, I probably won't qualify, how can some others expect to get a chance to spin with the lineup we currently have? A second tier would allow the people (who will undoubtedly still be strong spinners at near-WT level, and/or who lost in the first round like myself) that make spots 17-32 to still be able to compete and train for the next WT. Tournaments are a great way to increase one's skill, last year when I joined UPSBT that was my personal aim. That a person isn't WT level is a poor reason to avoid competition altogether, it's one of the points of having a UPSB Tournament. Also, @Iota
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Date: Tue, May 28 2013 20:09:58
@coffeelucky yeah everyone can still participate as I am taking Iota's solution and having two separate tiers; intermediate and veteran. We still need judges however.
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Date: Tue, May 28 2013 20:35:57
@eurocracy who is going to separate the spinners into intermediate and veteran? We obviously cant have Vic or i.suk going to intermediate and such right?
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Date: Tue, May 28 2013 21:07:07
Tigres wrote: @eurocracy who is going to separate the spinners into intermediate and veteran? We obviously cant have Vic or i.suk going to intermediate and such right?
There is a single qualification round; top 16 are placed into Veteran, 17-32 are placed into Intermediate. Only the qualification vids and the judging of them will determine who places in what bracket, at least based on my suggestion. -
Date: Tue, May 28 2013 23:05:35
for judging, i think spinners from one tier can be judges for the other tier, theres no problem there imo also ask the people to come back lol @Ivabra
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Date: Wed, May 29 2013 00:59:38
but then who judges the qualification videos to place them in the tiers?
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Date: Wed, May 29 2013 09:30:48
TheAafg wrote: @coffeelucky We still need judges however.
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Date: Wed, May 29 2013 13:26:14
Zombo wrote: for judging, i think spinners from one tier can be judges for the other tier, theres no problem there imo also ask the people to come back lol @Ivabra
I dont get it, youre askin me to judge or to participate? (sun) -
Date: Wed, May 29 2013 14:16:08
Ivabra wrote: I dont get it, youre askin me to judge or to participate? (sun)
Participate -
Date: Wed, May 29 2013 14:37:28
I cant, got too exhausted by WT, no tournaments till wc14
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Date: Wed, May 29 2013 15:01:40
The idea of intermediate bracket is really good. I'm not serious about anything anymore but it's good to taste how tournaments work again. That category is very fitting with me :3
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Date: Wed, May 29 2013 15:08:46
Ivabra wrote: I cant, got too exhausted by WT, no tournaments till wc14
Then will you judge? :) Im excited to see how this tourney turns out! :) -
Date: Wed, May 29 2013 15:08:56
Ivabra wrote: I dont get it, youre askin me to judge or to participate? (sun)
oh ok i thought u wanted to participate -
Date: Wed, May 29 2013 16:57:47
@Ivabra Despite our disagreements, you would be a really good judge here.
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Date: Wed, May 29 2013 18:24:28
[QUOTE=eurocracy;260493]@Ivabra in fact one of the judges, then don't say it :P, so ppl won't guess which of the 3 judges' comments in every round is yours :unsure:.
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Date: Wed, May 29 2013 18:51:34
If there is a shitstorm caused by me arguing against a judgement, it will likely be Iva's from experience xD But in all seriousness, he's pretty damn good at it.
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Date: Thu, May 30 2013 02:24:14
/in The Chosen One :D
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Date: Thu, May 30 2013 02:27:04
The Chosen One wrote: /in The Chosen One :D
You will be the chosen one to be in the first bracket (pros side) :lol:, Like the name :). -
Date: Thu, May 30 2013 02:34:26
Hahahaha Tnx Bro
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Date: Thu, May 30 2013 04:02:02
/in darknite. yeahhh!!!!!!
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Date: Thu, May 30 2013 04:07:39
Just a friendly reminder that people from all boards and with any experience are allowed to sign up. There will be two different tiers; intermediate and veteran. Both tiers will have 16 spinners.
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Date: Thu, May 30 2013 20:55:21
/sent [video=youtube;YC5hvFY0HOQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC5hvFY0HOQ&list=UUf7Hf1KF9fte3f_QMQ9HB3A&index=1[/video]
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Date: Fri, May 31 2013 05:10:25
#sent #swagyolo #yoloswag #bestermannnnn #swaggoi-neee #that'snotveryswaggieofyou #420blazeit #mmmmmmmyeesssssssssssss #HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE #shinebrightlikeadiamond #whenyou'rereadycomeandgetitnananaanaah #time2die [video=youtube;eNxXGaNqlQA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNxXGaNqlQA[/video]
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Date: Fri, May 31 2013 10:32:09
/in Kyotachi
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Date: Fri, May 31 2013 12:08:50
/in the middle of nowhere
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Date: Sat, Jun 1 2013 08:56:11
[video=youtube;yEa6hBaOvaM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEa6hBaOvaM[/video] tnes\
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Date: Sat, Jun 1 2013 18:42:53
Is blue allowed to participate?
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Date: Sat, Jun 1 2013 20:59:20
Ivabra wrote: Is blue allowed to participate?
No aliens allowed -
Date: Sun, Jun 2 2013 00:02:36
In.
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Date: Sun, Jun 2 2013 07:09:20
/sent :(
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Date: Sun, Jun 2 2013 09:25:48
/in ZXero
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Date: Sun, Jun 2 2013 10:37:19
Just Wt AgaiN :/ Lame.
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Date: Sun, Jun 2 2013 13:33:56
neoknux_009 wrote: Just Wt AgaiN :/ Lame.
IKR :facepalm: @TheAafg seriously? -
Date: Sun, Jun 2 2013 15:32:50
Escorpio123 wrote: IKR :facepalm: @TheAafg seriously?
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Date: Sun, Jun 2 2013 15:36:23
and once again, upsb splits into factions :rofl: w/e, i entered to seek stronger opponents and more exciting battles, i am more than willing to put aside my objections about who constitutes upsb for this :xd:
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Date: Sun, Jun 2 2013 21:44:13
btw thanks a lot that you're organizing this tournament, TheAafg. Must be a shitload of work.
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Date: Mon, Jun 3 2013 05:11:55
Im Saving My Rage For The podcast
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Date: Mon, Jun 3 2013 05:49:57
/sent [video=youtube;WyhpyJ2FFqM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyhpyJ2FFqM[/video] not the best combo i've made but it's something :P
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Date: Mon, Jun 3 2013 09:48:04
video sent
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Date: Mon, Jun 3 2013 13:03:38
when exactly is the dl?
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Date: Tue, Jun 4 2013 04:37:10
Nashi wrote: when exactly is the dl?
[SIZE="6"][B]deadline extended to the 9th[/B][/SIZE] cause of several reasons : -some people are really mad , no names (neo) -its the 4th and I haven't got any where close to the number of entries I would like to have -having deadline on sunday makes more sense -i wanna fit in the podcast before the tourny starts. -
Date: Tue, Jun 4 2013 07:46:57
That is really convenient for me. Recording was taking a huge chunk of time out of mt atudies for my last pbysics exam. After that on Wednesday I'll be able to record properly and submit. I was gonna send out a fresstyle anyway though.
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Date: Tue, Jun 4 2013 10:31:40
TheAafg wrote: [SIZE="6"][B]deadline extended to the 9th[/B][/SIZE] cause of several reasons : -some people are really mad , no names (neo) -its the 4th and I haven't got any where close to the number of entries I would like to have -having deadline on sunday makes more sense -i wanna fit in the podcast before the tourny starts.
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Date: Tue, Jun 4 2013 23:42:46
Everyone who is bitching about 'not having a chance' needs to stop(OMG wt/wc winners gunna be in there, wah!). Who cares if you lose to someone in the first round because you faced someone with an exponentially higher skill level. this is a case of survival of the fittest (towards pen-spinning in UPSB ). AND even if you don't face that person who is better than you then you're either A.) going to lose to someone else with a higher skill level, or B.) face the same person and lose anyway. I mean guys, there is only one person who will win so what difference does it make if you lose at the beginning or make it to the finals and lose there?
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Date: Wed, Jun 5 2013 02:15:21
spenpinner wrote: Everyone who is bitching about 'not having a chance' needs to stop(OMG wt/wc winners gunna be in there, wah!). Who cares if you lose to someone in the first round because you faced someone with an exponentially higher skill level. this is a case of survival of the fittest (towards pen-spinning in UPSB ). AND even if you don't face that person who is better than you then you're either A.) going to lose to someone else with a higher skill level, or B.) face the same person and lose anyway. I mean guys, there is only one person who will win so what difference does it make if you lose at the beginning or make it to the finals and lose there?
that you will move forward more rounds and with that, get more planned good combos from you, and you will improve a lot more with more combos than obviously less combos, that you perform in a higher level for each round. That's the big difference!!! @TheAafg that is a good decision because I have finals tomorrow just like eurocracy. lol :). -
Date: Wed, Jun 5 2013 02:50:35
Escorpio123 wrote: that you will move forward more rounds and with that, get more planned good combos from you, and you will improve a lot more with more combos than obviously less combos, that you perform in a higher level for each round. That's the big difference!!! @TheAafg that is a good decision because I have finals tomorrow just like eurocracy. lol :).
Yeah, that's a good goal, but people losing early is the inevitable with or without world tour spinners. That tournament is over with and people need to accept that they have the right to participate just like any other member of this board. -
Date: Wed, Jun 5 2013 03:20:00
spenpinner wrote: Everyone who is bitching about 'not having a chance' needs to stop(OMG wt/wc winners gunna be in there, wah!). Who cares if you lose to someone in the first round because you faced someone with an exponentially higher skill level. this is a case of survival of the fittest (towards pen-spinning in UPSB ). AND even if you don't face that person who is better than you then you're either A.) going to lose to someone else with a higher skill level, or B.) face the same person and lose anyway. I mean guys, there is only one person who will win so what difference does it make if you lose at the beginning or make it to the finals and lose there?
Its a pointless argument. They wont listen, theyll complain about anything and everything that upsets them a tiny bit. -
Date: Wed, Jun 5 2013 03:47:21
I think everyone is forgetting something very important. This is pen spinning. This is a tournament. While it is meant to train others for the WT/WC, its supposed to be FUN. Do you fucking understand? FUN. This isnt meant to be stressful. Its not meant to raise arguments and stupid shit like that. Doing so just takes away from the whole tournament. If you dont want to submit a video then dont. Its not fucking mandatory. But dont bitch and moan about the damn deadlines. If you did sign up for this, then it would be your responsibility to get everything done on time. If your saying you dont have enough time, you should have thought about your damn schedule before you signed up for this. Just because you dont agree with the date or dont have enough time is no excuse. Half you fucking people need to learn how life works. Jesus Christ. No ones going to bend over backwards for you in life. You aren't worth shit in this world. If you want to be, then work hard. Make something of yourself. Aafg is nice enough to extend deadlines and that's great, but that's not going to happen a lot in life. Deal with it. K sorry I had to vent. _____________ EDIT: And another thing, whats all this shit about "Oh I dont have a chance" bullshit? If you never go out and do it, you wont get anywhere. You'll just be that guy looking at the top and wishing to reach it, but never doing anything about. Maybe you submit a video. Maybe you get your ass handed to you on a silver platter. But at least you did it. At least you can say you tried your best. Learn from the battle, and move on.
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Date: Wed, Jun 5 2013 05:04:59
Quake wrote: I think everyone is forgetting something very important. This is pen spinning. This is a tournament. While it is meant to train others for the WT/WC, its supposed to be FUN. Do you fucking understand? FUN. This isnt meant to be stressful. Its not meant to raise arguments and stupid shit like that. Doing so just takes away from the whole tournament. If you dont want to submit a video then dont. Its not fucking mandatory. But dont bitch and moan about the damn deadlines. If you did sign up for this, then it would be your responsibility to get everything done on time. If your saying you dont have enough time, you should have thought about your damn schedule before you signed up for this. Just because you dont agree with the date or dont have enough time is no excuse. Half you fucking people need to learn how life works. Jesus Christ. No ones going to bend over backwards for you in life. You aren't worth shit in this world. If you want to be, then work hard. Make something of yourself. Aafg is nice enough to extend deadlines and that's great, but that's not going to happen a lot in life. Deal with it. K sorry I had to vent. _____________ EDIT: And another thing, whats all this shit about "Oh I dont have a chance" bullshit? If you never go out and do it, you wont get anywhere. You'll just be that guy looking at the top and wishing to reach it, but never doing anything about. Maybe you submit a video. Maybe you get your ass handed to you on a silver platter. But at least you did it. At least you can say you tried your best. Learn from the battle, and move on.
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Date: Wed, Jun 5 2013 05:18:49
well competitive spinning isn't really "fun" anymore hmm this is a tournament, if you aren't up for the standard then don't even join in the first place. There is no need to complain about the massive lineup but also, i agree that having a deadline on a weekday is stupid. People are probably busy for the whole week and weekend is their only filming time -._-.
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Date: Wed, Jun 5 2013 06:27:40
I'm aiming for the 3rd round (sun)
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Date: Wed, Jun 5 2013 15:51:25
spenpinner;261128]Everyone who is bitching about 'not having a chance' needs to stop(OMG wt/wc winners gunna be in there, wah!). Who cares if you lose to someone in the first round because you faced someone with an exponentially higher skill level. this is a case of survival of the fittest (towards pen-spinning in UPSB ). AND even if you don't face that person who is better than you then you're either A.) going to lose to someone else with a higher skill level, or B.) face the same person and lose anyway. I mean guys, there is only one person who will win so what difference does it make if you lose at the beginning or make it to the finals and lose there?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=spenpinner;261139]Yeah, that's a good goal, but people losing early is the inevitable with or without world tour spinners. That tournament is over with and people need to accept that they have the right to participate just like any other member of this board.[/QUOTE] That argument ended multiple pages ago, you're not paying attention. [QUOTE=Mystic;261141]Its a pointless argument. They wont listen, theyll complain about anything and everything that upsets them a tiny bit.[/QUOTE] That 'pointless' argument lead to the tournament system being adapted to Iota's design so that people can get it. You gave no input before and none now, give up already. [QUOTE=Quake wrote: I think everyone is forgetting something very important. This is pen spinning. This is a tournament. While it is meant to train others for the WT/WC, its supposed to be FUN. Do you fucking understand? FUN. This isnt meant to be stressful. Its not meant to raise arguments and stupid shit like that. Doing so just takes away from the whole tournament. If you dont want to submit a video then dont. Its not fucking mandatory. But dont bitch and moan about the damn deadlines. If you did sign up for this, then it would be your responsibility to get everything done on time. If your saying you dont have enough time, you should have thought about your damn schedule before you signed up for this. Just because you dont agree with the date or dont have enough time is no excuse. Half you fucking people need to learn how life works. Jesus Christ. No ones going to bend over backwards for you in life. You aren't worth shit in this world. If you want to be, then work hard. Make something of yourself. Aafg is nice enough to extend deadlines and that's great, but that's not going to happen a lot in life. Deal with it. K sorry I had to vent. _____________ EDIT: And another thing, whats all this shit about "Oh I dont have a chance" bullshit? If you never go out and do it, you wont get anywhere. You'll just be that guy looking at the top and wishing to reach it, but never doing anything about. Maybe you submit a video. Maybe you get your ass handed to you on a silver platter. But at least you did it. At least you can say you tried your best. Learn from the battle, and move on.
As said the 'not being able to even qualify' argument ended multiple pages ago. Before Iota's system was put in there was a VERY serious problem that it would be no fun because nobody was going to be able to enter. If you're talking about people's time schedules, Aafg did not delay the time period because people ASKED him to. He did it because despite a lot of people on the list not complaining, they had not submitted. Why? Because it's fucking finals week and everyone had their schedules fucked up. I myself was going to submit it minutes before the old deadline because I'm so under pressure right now, and the combo would have been some shitty freestyle. There's not much to reply to in my post here, because after this week finals is over and everyone has free time, so this is the sole exception. -
Date: Wed, Jun 5 2013 20:51:43
eurocracy wrote: That argument ended multiple pages ago, you're not paying attention. That 'pointless' argument lead to the tournament system being adapted to Iota's design so that people can get it. You gave no input before and none now, give up already. As said the 'not being able to even qualify' argument ended multiple pages ago. Before Iota's system was put in there was a VERY serious problem that it would be no fun because nobody was going to be able to enter. If you're talking about people's time schedules, Aafg did not delay the time period because people ASKED him to. He did it because despite a lot of people on the list not complaining, they had not submitted. Why? Because it's fucking finals week and everyone had their schedules fucked up. I myself was going to submit it minutes before the old deadline because I'm so under pressure right now, and the combo would have been some shitty freestyle. There's not much to reply to in my post here, because after this week finals is over and everyone has free time, so this is the sole exception.
Fair enough. But back to my old point. Like you mentioned, it is finals week. But who signed up? You did. (Not you specifically euro but you as in "you people.") No one asked you guys to sign up. You did so out of your own free will. Thus its your responsibility to take care of your shit. I realize finals are important and that makes it busy as hell with studying and whatnot, but if people would have looked at their schedule, they would have realized that the tournament and final's week conflict with each other. So they shouldnt have signed up in the first place. -
Date: Wed, Jun 5 2013 21:31:23
Quake wrote: Fair enough. But back to my old point. Like you mentioned, it is finals week. But who signed up? You did. (Not you specifically euro but you as in "you people.") No one asked you guys to sign up. You did so out of your own free will. Thus its your responsibility to take care of your shit. I realize finals are important and that makes it busy as hell with studying and whatnot, but if people would have looked at their schedule, they would have realized that the tournament and final's week conflict with each other. So they shouldnt have signed up in the first place.
Wouldn't that be a valid reason to complain about the schedule? As a tournament organiser, you want the highest amount of people to join and compete. If the schedule doesn't allow for that while it would be a lot more desirable a week later, I see no reason not to change it. -
Date: Wed, Jun 5 2013 22:25:13
JackyMacky wrote: #sent #swagyolo #yoloswag #bestermannnnn #swaggoi-neee #that'snotveryswaggieofyou #420blazeit #mmmmmmmyeesssssssssssss #HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE #shinebrightlikeadiamond #whenyou'rereadycomeandgetitnananaanaah #time2die [video=youtube;eNxXGaNqlQA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNxXGaNqlQA[/video]
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Date: Wed, Jun 5 2013 22:39:50
imho penis. [video=youtube;MbQlGxHIS68]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbQlGxHIS68[/video] It's crap, but it's my crap so deal with it. huehue
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Date: Thu, Jun 6 2013 01:35:07
[video=youtube;L8ezqu2guXo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ezqu2guXo[/video] here is mine PLEASE WATCH IN HIGHEST POSSIBLE QUALITY. thanks
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Date: Thu, Jun 6 2013 03:32:40
Quake wrote: Fair enough. But back to my old point. Like you mentioned, it is finals week. But who signed up? You did. (Not you specifically euro but you as in "you people.") No one asked you guys to sign up. You did so out of your own free will. Thus [B]its your responsibility to take care of your shit[/B]. I realize finals are important and that makes it busy as hell with studying and whatnot, but if people would have looked at their schedule, they would have realized that the tournament and final's week conflict with each other. So they shouldnt have signed up in the first place.
I know what you are saying here. But we all have a life. We all have responsibilities to take care of; but in the same, we want to compete here, so if extra time is given to us, then, there shouldn't be any problems with it. In real life, I do understand that we have to deal with personal problems, but even in real life, opportunities come to us with what we want to achieve; we just need to keep looking for it. In this case, if extra time has been given to us, it is a solution to many people's schedule plans. We plan as time goes by, we don't know what the future holds. We may say "I will be a doctor", crap, tomorrow, you get beat up by gangsters, or accidentally a car hit you. Will you say "Deal with it"? or "It is your responsibility to take care of your sh..." ??? It is, but not in the way you said it. We may plan so many things, just not all will happen/become true. -
Date: Thu, Jun 6 2013 03:52:54
[video=youtube;bOgMX-u7n_M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOgMX-u7n_M&feature=youtu.be[/video] my entry. fs like a dawg
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Date: Thu, Jun 6 2013 04:08:10
BUT PEN SPINNING IS ALL I DO WITH MY LIFE so 'having other things to do in life' is obviously invalid
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Date: Thu, Jun 6 2013 05:47:11
Escorpio123;261218]I know what you are saying here. But we all have a life. We all have responsibilities to take care of; but in the same, we want to compete here, so if extra time is given to us, then, there shouldn't be any problems with it. In real life, I do understand that we have to deal with personal problems, but even in real life, opportunities come to us with what we want to achieve; we just need to keep looking for it. In this case, if extra time has been given to us, it is a solution to many people's schedule plans. [B]We plan as time goes by, we don't know what the future holds.[/B] We may say "I will be a doctor", crap, tomorrow, you get beat up by gangsters, or accidentally a car hit you. Will you say "Deal with it"? or "It is your responsibility to take care of your sh..." ??? It is, but not in the way you said it. We may plan so many things, just not all will happen/become true.[/QUOTE] Fair enough. To clarify, im not trying to start arguments or make enemies or stuff like that. Im stating facts and opinions, and you are as well. Thats all there is to it. Back to what you said, you do have a valid point. But what im trying to get across is that you do still have to "deal with it." Maybe that was a bad choice of words, but its still my point. Y'know, its the whole when life gives you lemons thing. Obstacles always come, but isn't our job to handle these obstacles? To your point in Bold, I do agree with that to an extent. "We dont know what the future holds." Yet, there is still no problem with planning ahead. To repeat, those that signed up should have looked at schedules first. Yes, we dont know what the future holds, and unexpected things can happen at any moment, however finals are not an unexpected thing. It's something that everyone should have known about. Ehh I hope you get what im saying. [QUOTE=Erirornal Kraione wrote: Wouldn't that be a valid reason to complain about the schedule? As a tournament organiser, you want the highest amount of people to join and compete. If the schedule doesn't allow for that while it would be a lot more desirable a week later, I see no reason not to change it.
You make a valid point Eriror. I guess I just have a problem with people signing up for something just to make management bend over backwards for them. It's hosted for the participants. I feel like thats service enough. I realize if there arent many participants then its like "Whats the point of having it in the first place?" but it still irks me. I don't see why anymore should be done for them. I feel like bending rules and deadlines makes everything weaker, and thus harder to deal with. If its all set in stone, I feel it just flows better. Meh, maybe thats just me. But Eriror, point taken. -
Date: Thu, Jun 6 2013 06:53:26
Quake wrote: Fair enough. To clarify, im not trying to start arguments or make enemies or stuff like that. Im stating facts and opinions, and you are as well. Thats all there is to it. Back to what you said, you do have a valid point. But what im trying to get across is that you do still have to "deal with it." Maybe that was a bad choice of words, but its still my point. Y'know, its the whole when life gives you lemons thing. Obstacles always come, but isn't our job to handle these obstacles? To your point in Bold, I do agree with that to an extent. "We dont know what the future holds." Yet, there is still no problem with planning ahead. To repeat, those that signed up should have looked at schedules first. Yes, we dont know what the future holds, and unexpected things can happen at any moment, however finals are not an unexpected thing. It's something that everyone should have known about. Ehh I hope you get what im saying. You make a valid point Eriror. I guess I just have a problem with people signing up for something just to make management bend over backwards for them. It's hosted for the participants. I feel like thats service enough. I realize if there arent many participants then its like "Whats the point of having it in the first place?" but it still irks me. I don't see why anymore should be done for them. I feel like bending rules and deadlines makes everything weaker, and thus harder to deal with. If its all set in stone, I feel it just flows better. Meh, maybe thats just me. But Eriror, point taken.
Actually, my finals supposed to be on Monday, but they moved it :facepalm:, that's why plans changed ^_^. I got your point, thanks for explaining :thumb:. @Quake. -
Date: Fri, Jun 7 2013 17:53:45
Goodluck for the others spinner and HF [video=youtube;sx3VTBB1G88]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx3VTBB1G88[/video]
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Date: Fri, Jun 7 2013 23:46:46
@TheAafg Why is my name not red? I sent a PM 2 days ago D:
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Date: Fri, Jun 7 2013 23:50:30
ChainBreak wrote: @TheAafg Why is my name not red? I sent a PM 2 days ago D:
Cuz he last updated the first post 3 days ago lol -
Date: Sat, Jun 8 2013 07:13:22
Bla. [video=youtube;5DBZHlxqnwE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DBZHlxqnwE[/video] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DBZHlxqnwE
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Date: Sat, Jun 8 2013 12:51:10
/sent.
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Date: Sat, Jun 8 2013 15:13:11
OHno you might think: fang is posting his video at the UPSB tournament thread. OHNO... This is going to be a hard combo, I am so gonne lose... Well, I am here to tell ya my execution suck and so does my linkage. I won't think this combo get me through this round but hey, I can try. [video=youtube;mzEaZI2KCWY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzEaZI2KCWY&feature=youtu.be[/video] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzEaZI2KCWY&feature=youtu.be CREATIVE BULLST*T, WHOOHOO!!
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Date: Sat, Jun 8 2013 16:27:42
@fang exe or not that is seriously impressive. [SPOILER="My WIP Combo breakdown"] [SPOILER="Key"] Bold= Palm Sideways Italics = Palm Down Underlined = Palm Up [/SPOILER] [B]Sonic 34-23[p][s 0.5] ~ Side Flush Sonic 24-23[s 0.25][/B] ~ Inv Sonic 14-34[s 0.5][c] -> [B]Sonic 34-23[p][s 0.5] ~ Sonic 24-T4[s 0.0][c][/B] -> PD TA T4-T4[p][fc T2][s 0.5] ~ [B]FL Middlearound T2-12[fc T2] [s 0.75] [c][/B] -> Bak 12-12 [/SPOILER]
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Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 06:57:07
good luck everyone [video=youtube;5dypRmlSwpM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dypRmlSwpM&feature=youtu.be[/video]
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Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 07:57:41
[video=youtube;Obep8zXn7Ds]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obep8zXn7Ds&[/video] i would cry if i get in to intermediateT^T @TheAafg
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Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 08:17:41
what time and timezone do I need to submit today, my combo is nearly ready but I get home to film later on.
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Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 09:00:35
enterthedarkrealm's
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Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 09:16:03
/sent [video=youtube;FOelRQKRDGU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOelRQKRDGU[/video]
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Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 10:08:18
[video=youtube;mcFFbTNj1C0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcFFbTNj1C0[/video] not my finest. :) haha not sure where my pen spinning hobby is going .
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Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 11:31:48
Vic wrote: /in
Aaaand we have a winner. Btw here's my vid: [video=youtube;BJeB2juPEok]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJeB2juPEok[/video] -
Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 12:31:42
ok, here is my combo.... sorry, not nice.. but i must try it... :)
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Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 13:37:48
Good luck everybody! [video=youtube;d7bTtCFqfFw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7bTtCFqfFw[/video]
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Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 14:13:38
@TheAafg can you update the first post about 2 tiers and color and bold in sign up list?
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Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 15:20:52
[video=youtube;CwjrkO3c4Gc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwjrkO3c4Gc[/video] half an hour for this~ T^T glgl
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Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 15:35:56
the beast has returned. FIREANTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT [video=youtube;JnDYmaHc-dI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnDYmaHc-dI[/video] @TheAafg
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Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 15:51:51
RotationEightySeven wrote: /sent [video=youtube;FOelRQKRDGU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOelRQKRDGU[/video]
woah. that was awesome. -
Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 19:21:24
/refilm [video=youtube;C3WfnzLLS84]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3WfnzLLS84&feature=youtu.be[/video]
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Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 19:42:20
/sent [video=youtube;mQaDHqVjmuk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQaDHqVjmuk[/video] HAND WHY MUST YOU LOCK UP AFTER THE RINGINDEXBAK :C
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Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 20:54:36
[video=youtube;MCPPKBfxVP4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCPPKBfxVP4[/video] Ending isnt a Mid spread... it's a Spider spin bounce... at least it should be...
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Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 22:07:49
It's something. :) Top 8 would be nice.
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Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 22:13:20
[video=youtube;_m9VCkTqXPg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m9VCkTqXPg[/video]
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Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 22:23:41
Erirornal Kraione wrote: It's something. :) Top 8 would be nice.
0:05 dude, that way people will think i copied that from you T.T -
Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 22:25:59
DArKT wrote: 0:05 dude, that way people will think i copied that from you T.T
Considering I did that in WT as well, it's very possible! :D -
Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 22:46:24
Erirornal Kraione wrote: Considering I did that in WT as well, it's very possible! :D
I didnt know that '-' -
Date: Sun, Jun 9 2013 22:51:35
Cant really be bothered. I will just enjoy the show.
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Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 01:02:26
Podcast going on very shortly. Download will be posted a bit after the live show.
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Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 01:52:05
Will anyone bind the qualification vids?
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Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 01:53:16
can you guys actually PM or VM me the videos? Please? I can't go around and check through every person's youtube for videos. THX
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Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 02:58:33
@TheAafg i pmed you my vid and even posted it on this thread. Mind if you mark me as sent?
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Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 03:03:20
I'm looking forward to see the all tournament.
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Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 03:22:50
[video=youtube;ZruxYgVi7F0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZruxYgVi7F0[/video] read description pls <3 (and as for the title screen, as it says, WMM kept causing huge frame drops about 7 seconds into the vid, so I had to offset the start with that intro to prevent it from ruining the clip, sorry about that!)
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Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 03:30:22
Can I still submit in about 2 hours?
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Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 03:31:14
[video=youtube;IaPalkyUKK4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPalkyUKK4[/video]
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Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 04:10:41
[video=youtube;_oMzqAjnRSA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oMzqAjnRSA[/video] /notin Good luck to all the participants though, from what i've seen so far, y'all look beast.
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Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 04:21:21
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwMa_ZWkCFKTz1iuqbzRnKM_Kky_nMlmV playlist of qualification vids couldn't find wilsonouh's
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Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 04:39:56
miyat wrote: [video=youtube;_oMzqAjnRSA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oMzqAjnRSA[/video] /notin Good luck to all the participants though, from what i've seen so far, y'all look beast.
dont get it. Why dont you use this? -
Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 04:49:59
http://forum.upsb.info/showthread.php?t=15208 UPSBT TRASH TALKING THREAD RULES : CAPS 2 SHOW UR SWAG.
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Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 11:43:57
http://youtu.be/zYf20YFNeEc Why is this video in the playlist? It is for the asian tournament.
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Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 12:06:54
Nashi wrote: http://youtu.be/zYf20YFNeEc Why is this video in the playlist? It is for the asian tournament.
oops, fixed (he has another one for upsbt) -
Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 12:29:54
@i.suk you forgot mine :'( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rsJ2qDFw8w
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Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 15:25:56
what happened to @Vic? I think he pulled out...
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Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 16:14:48
Why was Walkaz banned? :?
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Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 16:22:32
Zombo wrote: what happened to @Vic? I think he pulled out...
Yeah he did, Neoknux talked with him on his profile. -
Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 17:04:48
not joining upsbt...not joining upsbt... *mutters to self*
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Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 20:11:05
@TheAafg Slightly late, but please let me in, I didn't have much time to film. Sorry sorry [video=youtube;h7Vsk0tT__M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7Vsk0tT__M&feature=youtu.be[/video] PS. My camera sucks, so there are frame jumps, Will try to fix it for next round
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Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 20:39:10
Mats wrote: Why was Walkaz banned? :?
He pulled out for personal reasons, so he asked to be DQ'ed. -
Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 20:48:46
Same as @Yxis , late, first try, not refilming :(. I know it sucks but it has something :? :shake:. [video=youtube;8JnpMR3TEM4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JnpMR3TEM4&feature=youtu.be[/video]
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Date: Mon, Jun 10 2013 21:23:35
if i knew we could send in after the deadline, i wouldnt have settled with my piece-of-shit combo... i guess its more my fault for procrastinating in the first place though...
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Date: Tue, Jun 11 2013 20:12:17
[video=youtube;W17KGJW-Zek]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W17KGJW-Zek[/video] I'll do what I can.
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Date: Wed, Jun 12 2013 04:49:58
links to all videos in the first post. Round 1 match ups will be revealed sometime next week. Thanks @i.suk for arranging the playlist.
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Date: Wed, Jun 12 2013 06:54:01
hahah no. If you missed your extended deadline which happened on a WEEKEND, you're putting everyone else at a disadvantage who had to rely on the deadline.
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Date: Wed, Jun 12 2013 10:19:27
Just a suggestion or advice, or perhaps it is just a personal opinion. @TheAafg, do you think it would be cooler if there is a thread with the playlist of the videos? so from that thread, comments about those videos are made to this new thread? :? just a question, perhaps. :unsure: Edit: Like the WT had a different thread, like WT Videos out :).
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Date: Wed, Jun 12 2013 12:40:56
Escorpio123 wrote: Just a suggestion or advice, or perhaps it is just a personal opinion. @TheAafg, do you think it would be cooler if there is a thread with the playlist of the videos? so from that thread, comments about those videos are made to this new thread? :? just a question, perhaps. :unsure: Edit: Like the WT had a different thread, like WT Videos out :).
I agree with this :) Since this thread is named "sign ups". The sign up process is pretty much over, so might as well make a new thread for the first round :) It would kind of keep things a little cleaner.