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General Discussion / World Tournament 2013 - Round 1 - Videos OUT!

  1. Zombo
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 03:49:31

    http://worldps.org/wt13/?p=59 I used EaglE's list, hopefully it is correct. 105/105 videos, 100% is very impressive, good job participants! :D Use this thread to discuss your predictions for this round! Results in two weeks. Top 4 in each group advance.

  2. exclusive
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 04:10:00

    very disapointed someone cheated @Cloud

  3. Mats
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 04:16:21

    May as well lock my predictions thread then... These predictions are not in order - Just the four people I think will progress. [spoiler=Mats' predictions] Group A: Kin, Kipple, EaglE, Gollumsk8 Group B: Miyat, ctionist, Fascyo, Orange Group C: Iota, TheBloodGod, MHL, Mind (I don't really like Mind's combo here, but I think he will go through) Group D: Alvaris, hansol, neoknux_009, Ivabra Group E: Sutomo, Zuppa, GSL, Precel Group F: Eriror, a1ex, cLear, Blue (I really wanted Kay through too, but I think he's 5th in this group). Group G: i.suk, Cloud, Gibki, Sound Group H: Fel2Fram, Pen Ninja, x1213, RPD[/spoiler]

  4. Zombo
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 04:26:59

    Developing trend of this WT13 (every WT has one): wipers. Lots of it in original variations. tohlz would be proud.

  5. Mats
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 04:33:01

    I think 2p and 2h is becoming more common too?

  6. coffeelucky
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 04:55:11

    dropbox link say it's nothing here. :(

  7. Zombo
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 05:07:47

    somehow @EaglE has deleted the videos :dunno:

  8. Tommy
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 05:29:53

    @neoknux_009 defs deserves to go through... His combo was amazing

  9. EaglE
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 05:33:58

    Zombo wrote: somehow @EaglE has deleted the videos :dunno:
    OMG I am so sorry.. plz forgive me, I just change the folder name from "other" to "round1 videos", I thought it would be more official since I saw you post it in the official wt13 page. I don't know it's killing the link.. sorry again and this is the new link https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v4ot2cv1eb2zj5n/G9iRla-XiT ^^ About the list: half videos from me and the others from cloud. thx him also^^

  10. Mats
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 05:46:06

    Thanks @Cloud

  11. Zombo
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 06:57:27

    big surprise for me is Talco, this man has balls of steel, havent seen everything yet though

  12. coffeelucky
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 08:39:59

    After watching all of them, it's hard to predict who'll advance to next round. I hope judges will carefully watch and judge. [spoiler=My prediction after see combos]A: Talco Gollumsk8 Migi EaglE (kin, Kipple, Xound, Enigma oh gosh a lot of great combos here.) B: ctionist ppm Yaemgo Miyat (Fascyo, Zkhan) C: mind MHL Zuo Iota (TBG, Daimo) D: Ivabra Mart Alvaris Hansol (Laye, MKSFT, neo, Retry, ZaPV oh gosh group of death) E: sutomo Precel Baaron GSL (Darkin Zuppa) F: A13x Eriror Blue Kay (beige cLear) G: i.suk Cloud Gibki TMrW (Gis8 stopazz) H: fel2fram RPD x1213 Penja (windy Impulse)[/spoiler]

  13. Mats
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 08:56:14

    coffeelucky wrote: After watching all of them, it's hard to predict who'll advance to next round. I hope judges will carefully watch and judge. [spoiler=My prediction after see combos]A: Talco Gollumsk8 Migi EaglE (kin, Kipple, Xound, Enigma oh gosh a lot of great combos here.) B: ctionist ppm Yaemgo Miyat (Fascyo, Zkhan) C: mind MHL Zuo Iota (TBG, Daimo) D: Ivabra Mart Alvaris Hansol (Laye, MKSFT, neo, Retry, ZaPV oh gosh group of death) E: sutomo Precel Baaron GSL (Darkin Zuppa) F: A13x Eriror Blue Kay (beige cLear) G: i.suk Cloud Gibki TMrW (Gis8 stopazz) H: fel2fram RPD x1213 Penja (windy Impulse)[/spoiler]
    We agree competely on groups H and E. I guess this means it's likely we picked the correct guys to progress from these two. *high five* We also agree on 24/32 spinners overall. Interesting to see all the guys I chose who you didn't, you mentioned in brackets as having good combos. I guess this selection we picked are the ones to choose from... I agree this was very difficult! The judges have a really hard time here. I hope they put the effort in! (btw, after looking at all 105 combos and picking a top four for each group, were you like -> :phew: ? lol)

  14. i.suk
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 09:11:29

    SpoilerA - xound, kin, gollumsk8, kipple (migi talco) B - ction, ppm, miyat, far (zkhan yaemgo) C - mind, dane, iota, tbg (lol tbg 3 tf charge rev > fl ta rev whyyyy, mhl, daimo) D - ivabra, alvaris, laye, leftfinger (neoknux mksft) E - darkinhex, sutomo, baaron, sekai (gsl, precel) F - eriror, a13x, kay, beige (blue laura) G - i.suk, gisele 8, schung, toonet (gibki, cloud) H - fel2fram, x1213, RPD, dami- (impulse, pen ninja)
    not sure if these are predictions or what i want to happen, at some point in deciding these the line became blurred OTL (ordered from 1st to 6th) hmm edited these three times after rewatching zzz

  15. Gland
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 10:21:16

    SpoilerMy Prediction(without bias): A. Xound, gollumsk8, Talco, Eagle B. Yaemgo, Fascyo, ctionist, Far (ppm & miyat also have a chance) C. MHL, tbg, mind, K.A D. Ivabra, Leftfinger, Alvaris, Hansol (really hard to choose, but LaYe or MKSFT is deserve tho) E. Darkinhex, Sutomo, Precel, Baaron F. a13x, Kay, Eriror, Swob G. Gibki, Cloud, i.suk, Gisele8 H. f2f, impulse, RPD, x1213

  16. Ivabra
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 12:52:24

    Spoiler Group A : Gollumsk > Xound > Kin > Talco => Kipple Enigma Eagle Migi Gland are very strong too.. so many great spinners in that group. Group B : Ction > PPM > Orange - Far - Miyat (can't decide) => Yaemgo Tose DarkT Group C : Mind > Daimo > TBG > Iota Group D : Me?- Alvaris > Alvaris-Me? > Left > Mksft-Mart-Hansol => I think Left Alva & my position can be changed between the first and the third place, I'm not sure about that. Group E : Sutomo > Darkinhex > Baaron-Vikroal => Where's Precel's combo ? Group F : A13x-Eriror > Eriror-A13x > Kay > Blue - cLear - Beige => Too many great spinners right here again... Group G : i.suk > Cloud > Gisele > Gibki => I.suk dominates that group I think Group H : Fel2fram (You don't say(sun)) > RPD > x1213 > Penja - Impulse
    These are my predictions, please don't judge me on my judgements, this is the way I see it, you might disagree with them (sun)

  17. Lekunga
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 14:34:44

    [B]Group A[/B] BEN_Z EaglE Enigma Gland [B]gollumsk8 #4 kin #3 kipple #2 Migi #1 [/B] Miyuki pixels Shakespeare Talco Xound Migi topped this group for obvious reasons, outstanding combo, wow. kipple turned in an innovative 2p2h combo, putting him on #2. kin wasn't at his best, his wiper-part really wasn't that special compared to mind/beige/fel2fram, rest was ok. The fact that he placed 2nd in the last WT and that he spins an MX (srsly, people forget that) will probably still give him a spot in the next round. #4 will probably be pixels or gollumsk8. Sad for EaglE, Shakespeare and Xound though if my prediction turns out to be correct. Shakespeare's combo was just perfect in terms of aesthetics, I loved everything and every part of it. Unfortunately, it wasn't that good in terms of difficulty. [B]Group B[/B] coffeelucky [B]ctionist #1[/B] DarkT [B]Far #4 Fascyo #2[/B] miyat MondPs Orange PoinT [B]ppm #3[/B] tose Yaemgo Zkhan ctionist and Fascyo dominated this group. Tough decision between Far, ppm and tose, tose's combo may have been a bit weaker. Some creative stuff from Orange but I don't think it was enough. Mondps and Zkhan submitted great combos too. A bit disappointed with some of the other combos. [B]Group C[/B] Daimo DerDane faku iota K.A. [B]MHL #2 mind #1 nuol #3[/B] phisan [B]Thebloodgod #4[/B] Tmkk Yorch Zuo mind was mind-blowing. MHL and Nuol turned in excellent and solid combos and did a good job at replacing their respective originals. #4 will a close decision between DerDane (not his best one), Zuo (weird stuff) and Thebloodgod (solid, nice pink background and water bottle). [B]Group D[/B] [B]Alvaris #1[/B] hansol Hikari [B]Ivabra #2 Laye #4[/B] Leftfinger Mart MKSFT neoknux_009 Retry Sly SouLKnight Tess [B]ZaPV #3[/B] This group makes me sad. It's BY FAR the hardest group to judge. Alvaris and Ivabra were just insane, no doubt about them getting the spot. Tough decision between Laye, Leftfinger, Sly, MKSFT, Mart (what's with his hands), neoknux_009, Retry and ZaPV. My votes go to Laye's and ZaPV's flawlessly executed combos. I rooted for hansol, but this group is just too brutal. Props to Retry's perfect 2p2h sync combo, Mart (O____O) and Sly's mouth wiper. [B]Group E[/B] Amikiro [B]Baaron #2[/B] CreW Darkinhex Enkronidus [B]GSL #1[/B] Kenmai [B]Precel #3[/B] Sekai [B]sutomo #4[/B] Vikroal Wimsoc Zuppa #1 goes to GSL, great combo, nice counters. Baaron gets my #2 because I know his potential, even though he wasn't in top form. At first glance Sekai, Darkinhex, Kenmai, Precel, sutomo, Vikroal, Zuppa are on the same level. It could go either way. [B]Group F[/B] [B]a13x #1 beige #4[/B] Blue cLear Engine eriror [B]Kay #2[/B] Laura Lovelife [B]Nz #3[/B] Robbin ROBO Swob The next hard-to-judge one. a13x advances for certain. beige, Blue, cLear, eriror, Nz, Kay, ROBO are SO DIFFERENT, i really don't want to be the one to judge this. Laura's clip was so cute but unfotunately, it was only average in terms of difficulty. [B]Group G[/B] [B]Cloud #4[/B] Gibki [B]Gisele8 #1[/B] i.suk Lyt Mirektusheaux [B]Neko #2[/B] Rotator Schung Sound stopazz+ TmrW [B]Toonet #3[/B] What happened to Gisele8. Toonet and Neko (reminds me of far) both delivered great and solid combos, nothing much to say. I'm not too sure who will be the last one though, I'll just go cLear's twin brother (could also potentially be i.suk, Gibki or Sound). [B]Group H[/B] ahno chlsps [B]wtf[/B] dami- [B]fel2fram #3[/B] [B]Impulse #2[/B] Nimuhra pen ninja Penguin Rotation87 RPD [B]x1213 #1[/B] [B]windy #4[/B] Yamaguchi x1213 and Impulse will get their spot, easily superior to the other combos. I don't see how fel's combo was superior to windy's, RPD's or Rotation87's combo in terms of difficulty, his unique and beautiful style (+ the fact that he is hyped) is enough in order for him to advance to the next round though (don't get me wrong, I love his style, he will go far). #4 will probably be windy, solid combo, good presentation. [SIZE="1"]AGREE OR I'LL PUNCH YOU :3[/SIZE]

  18. Zombo
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 15:17:07

    Ivabra wrote:
    Spoiler Group A : Gollumsk > Xound > Kin > Talco => Kipple Enigma Eagle Migi Gland are very strong too.. so many great spinners in that group. Group B : Ction > PPM > Orange - Far - Miyat (can't decide) => Yaemgo Tose DarkT Group C : Mind > Daimo > TBG > Iota Group D : Me?- Alvaris > Alvaris-Me? > Left > Mksft-Mart-Hansol => I think Left Alva & my position can be changed between the first and the third place, I'm not sure about that. Group E : Sutomo > Darkinhex > Baaron-Vikroal => Where's Precel's combo ? Group F : A13x-Eriror > Eriror-A13x > Kay > Blue - cLear - Beige => Too many great spinners right here again... Group G : i.suk > Cloud > Gisele > Gibki => I.suk dominates that group I think Group H : Fel2fram (You don't say(sun)) > RPD > x1213 > Penja - Impulse
    These are my predictions, please don't judge me on my judgements, this is the way I see it, you might disagree with them (sun)
    precel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnXJS7fVxE

  19. Alvaris
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 15:26:17

    @Lekunga don't punch me plz, our views are totally different xD (in seeded order, explanation too lazy) Group A Migi Xound Gollumsk8 Kin/EaglE/Talco Group B ctionist ppm miyat Far/Fascyo Group C Zuo MHL Thebloodgod Yorch/mind Group D Ivabra Neoknux_009 Leftfinger Laye/Alvaris Group E Baaron Darkinhex sutomo GSL/Sekai Group F Swob a13x/Blue Kay Eriror Group G i.suk Gibki Mirektusheaux/Gisele8 Cloud Group H x1213 Fel2Fram RPD Impulse/Pen Ninja/Rotation87/dami-(?)

  20. Soren
    Date: Mon, Jan 28 2013 15:40:09

    My word, I can't even name half of the tricks executed. This year is going to be the greatest tournament so far!

  21. Zombo
    Date: Tue, Jan 29 2013 18:28:12

    recently I've had a change of heart concerning the perceived reduced difficulty of early tricks. I stated previously that putting tricks with a low chance of success early in the combo reduces their difficulty because you can retry quickly. While this is true, I also believe that if you DO land it, you put an huge amount of pressure of yourself to finish the combo successfully. This is because the trick is hard to land, so when you do land it, you don't want to waste this opportunity, which makes you even more nervous. So I guess in the end it evens out somewhat if your combo starts out with a very difficult trick and is long.

  22. Mats
    Date: Tue, Jan 29 2013 18:46:35

    What's happening about chlsps cheating? @Zombo

  23. Ivabra
    Date: Tue, Jan 29 2013 18:50:09

    I actually agreed with you when you said that, even if it's not always true. cLear's combo starts with basketballspins but I think it doesn't make it easier, since he does it three times in a row (which increases the difficulty) but your statement would be true if he only did one basketball spin (random example here). So I think it's both true & false, it depends on the trick used. I think it's always true if this is a spin (side spin or backspin like A13x & S777 in 2011) but it's false if you check MKSFT's combo since the "power part" is long enough, even if I don't actually recommand this type of combo structure ... (it's better to start with linkages but that's my opinion)

  24. Zombo
    Date: Tue, Jan 29 2013 18:51:50

    Mats wrote: What's happening about chlsps cheating? @Zombo
    not sure, I already contacted PPSC about it

  25. RPD
    Date: Tue, Jan 29 2013 19:26:08

    I agree with zombo, but personally, I prefer a combo with a good overall difficulty than a "standard" combo and a hard finisher.

  26. Alvaris
    Date: Tue, Jan 29 2013 20:06:13

    Zombo wrote: not sure, I already contacted PPSC about it
    i think you meant KzPSC?

  27. Zombo
    Date: Tue, Jan 29 2013 23:20:59

    o i think i got confused with some ppsc spinner called chris

  28. Gland
    Date: Tue, Jan 29 2013 23:44:41

    Zombo wrote: o i think i got confused with some ppsc spinner called chris
    lol chlsps & chrisPS is a different person sir

  29. Frip
    Date: Wed, Jan 30 2013 02:40:24

    My predictions for group A Xound, gollumsk8, Migi, Talco (In the mix: Pixels and kipple) Group B ctionist, Orange, ppm, DarkT (In the mix: miyat and Fascyo) Group C MHL, daimo, Dane, Yorch still watchig most videos

  30. casual
    Date: Wed, Jan 30 2013 08:02:49

    Quick predictions, probably geared towards my tastes but whatever: [spoiler=hur] A: 1. Xound 2. Eagle 3. Gollumsk8 4. Kin (contested with Migi) B: 1. ctionist 2. ppm 3. miyat 4. Yaemgo C: 1. mind 2. Thebloodgod 3. MHL 4. Iota D: 1. Ivabra 2. Alvaris 3. Laye 4. Leftfinger E: 1. Darkinhex 2. sutomo 3. Baaron 4. GSL (contested with Sekai) F: 1. Eriror 2. Kay 3. Beige 4. A13X G: 1. i.suk 2. Toonet 3. Gibki 4. TMrW (contested with stopazz) H: 1. fel2fram 2. x1213 3. RPD 4. dami- (contested with impulse and penja) [/spoiler]

  31. Chobi
    Date: Wed, Jan 30 2013 13:00:56

    watching all those clips was fun.

    SpoilerA: 1. Xound 2. Migi 3. gollumsk8 4. EaglE/kin jesus this group is crazy. so many great combos, quite hard to judge B: 1. Fascyo 2. ctionist 3. Far 4. miyat nothing much to say here. @Far you mofo, didn't think you would be this good. my korean bias was telling me to put tose on the list, but his combo wasn't enough. D: C: 1. mind 2. Daimo 3. MHL 4. thebloodgod/the dane shit mind was crazy. Daimo was a pleasant surprise, really smooth, unique style. expected much more from the dane, but his combo was still nice. everyone else was rather underwhelming tbh D: D: 1. Leftfinger 2. Alvaris 3. Ivabra 4. hansol/neo aaaah hansol, did you just come back from the dead or something? lol. hansol had a good combo, but the finisher was quite lacking. is this a new trend? :/ i rather enjoyed watching this group, very nice stuff E: 1. Darkinhex 2. Baaron 3. Vikroal 4. sutomo Vik I <3 you! damn nice. darkinhex was great as expected. sutomo was a pleasant surprise as well, no idea who he is but damn nice combo F: 1. Beige 2. Eriror 3. Alex 4. cLear/ROBO Beige was just fantastic. wished the combo was longer though. :< Eriror great as always, though i noticed the change in structure. really nice stuff G: 1. i.suk 2. Gibki 3. Cloud 4. Schung i.suk dominated this group lol. Cloud's combo was very appealing H: 1. Fel2fram 2. RPD 3. x1213 4. Impulse/windy 2-4 was hard to decide D: very very nice group, nice to see x1213 still doing so well

  32. Zombo
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2013 03:30:05

    1 week left for results got 1 result so far

  33. i.suk
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2013 12:48:22

    From http://worldps.org/wt13/files/wt13.pdf In determining placements for r1 results, spinners are ranked by who was voted most into the top 4 in their groups (same as wt11 r1 was) A brief analysis of http://www.worldps.org/wt11/r1/results/r1results.pdf (wt11 r1 results) reveals that this method can be improved, with some loopholes as explained below: In group A: Ponkotu got no votes for 1st place, 4 votes for 2nd, 5 votes for 3rd and 3.83 votes for 4th (total votes counted, 16) Fire@fox got 4 votes for 1st place, 2.5 votes for 2nd, 3.5 votes for 3rd and 2 for 4th (total votes counted, 15) While the difference in votes is just one, the current system leads to a spinner who is voted in first place 4 times place after a spinner who is voted in second place 4 times. In group C: (probably the most 'obvious' loophole) sister_r received 2.33 votes in 1st, 6.33 in 2nd, and 7.33 in 3rd (total votes counted 16) vicgotgame had 10.33 in 1st, 2.67 in 2nd, 0.67 in 3rd and 1.33 in 4th (total votes counted 15) Vic got 10 votes in 1st and placed after sister_r who got....2 votes in 1st, makes a lot of sense indeed :D (of course sister_r could get more 2nd and 3rd place votes than vic, since vic had most of his votes for 1st) In group F: tigeroat had 2 votes in first, 1.33 in 2nd, 7.92 in 3rd and 1.42 in 4th (total votes counted 16) mesi had 4 votes in 1st, 5 votes in 2nd, 3rd votes in 3rd and 0.33 in 4th (total votes counted 15) mesi clearly outranks tigeroat in 1st and 2nd places (mesi 4+5 = 9, and tigeroat 2+1.33 = 3.33, with tigeroat only getting more votes than mesi in the 3rd and 4th places), yet tigeroat places above mesi in the current method of vote counts In group G: Lekunga had 1.33 votes in 1st, 1.58 in 2nd, 7.58 in 3rd and 3.25 in 4th (total votes counted 15.67) Rex had 3.33 in 1st, 5.33 in 2nd, 2.83 in 3rd and 1.83 in 4th (total votes counted 15) Once again, rex ranks far better in first and second placings (3.33+5.33 = 8.66) than lekunga (1.33+1.58 = 2.91), but lekunga places above rex in current system of voting With these examples outlined, consider an alternate vote counting method: 1. count total votes spinner received for 1st and 2nd places 2. if above is equal, tiebreaker is total votes for 3rd and 4th places 3. if both of the above are equal, tiebreaker is total votes for 5th and 6th places ^Using the above method, the previous 'inconsistencies' in the vote counts explained will all be resolved, and also keep all the wt11 r1 1st-ranked spinners in their existing positions (except for group C's sister_r and vic); and judges don't have to do more work either :D This method also defends against possible corruption: e.g. Spinner A from board X is in the same group as spinner B from board Y, and both of these spinners are very strong with a good chance of progressing far So, the judges from board X can simply not place spinner B in the top 4 of their judgments --> advantage for spinner A in final rankings (e.g. sister_r and vic in group C example*), thereby allowing a combo which is voted far more favorably to rank behind an inferior one Of course, my proposed changes to the system also suffer this corruption (what if we just don't put our rivals in the top 2 for our judgments?), but the extent is far smaller than that observed in wt11 --> however, in analysing all wt11 r1 results, doing this would've done nothing to the final top 4 placings in each group, except for group E after that corrupted vote had been accounted for (yes, i have no life so i checked every group for this scenario) *note: in no way is this post implying that wt11 r1 results were corrupted in an intentional manner, it is merely a suggestion of a slightly modified method to count votes to eliminate misplacings in group stage edit: and yes, i know most people will tl;dr this lulz @Zombo final ending note: The current method in the wt13 rulebook makes 1st and 4th votes equal, however in wt11 r1, it can be seen that all people who were placed 4th overall in their pools were knocked out in r2 without a single exception :D So inherently, there is a significant gap in 1st and 4th placings. hmm...second edit: this post doesn't account for 'random guy who gets 1 first vote and no second, 3rd or 4th vote' situations, so the first 4 spinners could be selected by previous system (total votes in 1st/2nd/3rd/4th) then separated in manner this post suggests, ugh complicated.

  34. Zombo
    Date: Sat, Feb 2 2013 16:03:51

    well its kinda too late now... would have been good to see this kind of suggestion before tournament starts, when i posted rulebook draft...

  35. Gland
    Date: Mon, Feb 4 2013 15:48:51

    IPSB result for R1 /sent

  36. Mats
    Date: Mon, Feb 4 2013 17:23:16

    I didn't see those rules. It seems the difficulty section is a little flawed, as the following combo is only worth 4/5! Inverse Thumbspin 10.0 -> Thumbaround -> Sonic -> Backspin 8.5 -> Pass T1-23 -> Middlemiddlearound Reverse (to other hand) -> Pass 23-12 -> Indexaround -> Thumbspin 5.5 While also being the hardest combo ever landed. Also, in what order where UPSB's spinners ranked? Edit: @i.suk - tl dr. :P Nah kidding, interesting point you raise.

  37. Zombo
    Date: Mon, Feb 4 2013 20:07:17

    Gland wrote: IPSB result for R1 /sent
    where? didn't receive anything

  38. Alvaris
    Date: Mon, Feb 4 2013 20:51:11

    spam folder?

  39. Zombo
    Date: Mon, Feb 4 2013 22:26:56

    Alvaris wrote: spam folder?
    nope.

  40. i.suk
    Date: Tue, Feb 5 2013 01:01:24

    Mats wrote: I didn't see those rules. It seems the difficulty section is a little flawed, as the following combo is only worth 4/5! Inverse Thumbspin 10.0 -> Thumbaround -> Sonic -> Backspin 8.5 -> Pass T1-23 -> Middlemiddlearound Reverse (to other hand) -> Pass 23-12 -> Indexaround -> Thumbspin 5.5 While also being the hardest combo ever landed. Also, in what order where UPSB's spinners ranked? Edit: i.suk - tl dr. :P Nah kidding, interesting point you raise.
    about the way difficulty is graded, it's (possibly) after WT09 where spinnerpeem used very simple linkages but insane power trick sequences leading to unbalanced combos, the criteria was changed to only allow 5/5 difficulty to be given to people who had hard linkages and hard tricks however, something like fl armaround ~ ringspiderspin 4.0 would still get 5/5 since it is a hard linkage into a hard trick ^^

  41. Gland
    Date: Tue, Feb 5 2013 14:08:13

    the judge himself sent to you, maybe he forgot to change the subject. Will resend to you in a minute EDIT: /sent

  42. Zombo
    Date: Tue, Feb 5 2013 15:21:35

    Gland wrote: the judge himself sent to you, maybe he forgot to change the subject. Will resend to you in a minute EDIT: /sent
    received

  43. Alvaris
    Date: Fri, Feb 8 2013 02:15:23

    just wondering, how are the results coming in? can't wait

  44. coffeelucky
    Date: Fri, Feb 8 2013 05:05:42

    /sent results for THPSC judge

  45. M@V3R1CK
    Date: Fri, Feb 8 2013 08:04:52

    http://www.youtube.com/user/PenSpinningWorldTour/videos?view=1&flow=grid made this for the wt13. tried making organised with playlists but I feel I could've made it more organised for each group but I'm most likely gonna do the same thing as the wt11 channel and have a playlist for each round afterwards.

  46. Gland
    Date: Sat, Feb 9 2013 05:11:51

    any update about the results?

  47. Zombo
    Date: Sat, Feb 9 2013 07:54:47

    twps kpsa spsb ppp thpsc ipsb hkpsa

  48. Ivabra
    Date: Sat, Feb 9 2013 16:29:46

    BPSC judgements sent on [email][email protected][/email]

  49. Walkaz
    Date: Sat, Feb 9 2013 17:05:23

    VPC sent

  50. VikroaL
    Date: Sat, Feb 9 2013 19:22:10

    SPSC sent as well.

  51. Twine
    Date: Sat, Feb 9 2013 21:02:42

    Ohhhhhhh I'm excited.

  52. thebloodgod
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 01:33:34

    where's the result?

  53. sparking
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 01:40:41

    it isn't even 6pm where zombo lives patience, boy

  54. Zombo
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 02:56:57

    lpsa brpsb fpsb ppsc vnpsc bpsc kzpsc spsc jeb twps kpsa spsb ppp thpsc ipsb hkpsa whos missing upsb psh mypsc and gpc dont have judges (this round)

  55. VikroaL
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 02:59:31

    According to that list: - GPC - MYPSC - PSH - UPSB

  56. Mats
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 03:16:31

    UPSB missing? How embarrassing for the community. GET THOSE RESULTS SENT NAO!

  57. Zombo
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 05:51:40

    still missing upsb and psh...

  58. Twine
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 06:30:38

    Fucking UPSB

  59. EaglE
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 06:31:17

    Fucking PSH

  60. Mats
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 07:01:35

    Twine;246977]Fucking UPSB[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=EaglE wrote: Fucking PSH
    Fucking judges.

  61. GSL
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 07:54:11

    Today is the Chinese New Year,PSH judge may be too happy that he forget it. ←_←

  62. FingerNotPen
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 08:00:57

    lol swearing

  63. i.suk
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 08:05:44

    upsb's judges have acknowledged reminders i sent 3 days ago and earlier this morning.....(about 11 hours before time of this post) sent a third reminder to head judge to send a few hours back -._-. i apologise for the inconvenience

  64. Mats
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 08:11:28

    i.suk wrote: upsb's judges have acknowledged reminders i sent 3 days ago and earlier this morning.....(about 11 hours before time of this post) sent a third reminder to head judge to send a few hours back -._-. i apologise for the inconvenience
    Name and shame time? :hmm:

  65. Zombo
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 08:46:51

    after reviewing 15 results only group F top 4 is decided, but not the order of the spinners for the other groups, i'd say around 60% of spots have been clinched. the order is still in the air.

  66. Walkaz
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 08:48:37

    LOlol vpc judges had to judge while having cny celebration :rofl: I was skyping with him yesterday :rofl:

  67. EffecT
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 08:51:39

    i cant wait to see the results, looking forward to r2. lulzzzzzz

  68. Mats
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 08:54:43

    Zombo wrote: after reviewing 15 results only group F top 4 is decided, but not the order of the spinners .
    You say this and not who are the four??? !!! WHY!!!!!!!!! ??????????

  69. Zombo
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 08:56:57

    Mats wrote: You say this and not who are the four??? !!! WHY!!!!!!!!! ??????????
    because otherwise the remaining judges can influence the order of the 4

  70. EaglE
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 10:24:34

    PSH sent

  71. Alvaris
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 10:38:43

    Upsb judges, pls

  72. Far
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 15:11:11

    Smh man lol, who're the judges anyways? Sigh, this is taking longer than I predicted. Really hate these late-submission judgings, always hated them since last year. Fucking pathetic judges. Just.. Sigh. :facepalm:

  73. cheesecake
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 15:32:53

    still waiting for the results

  74. Raos
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 16:08:51

    cheesecake wrote: still waiting for the results
    omg its cheesecake :O be patient guys D:

  75. Zombo
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 16:33:07

    upsb send me 4 individual judge list, i need a compiled list that averages all 4 ppsc's judging is wrong, it only contains top 4 instead of top 6. group c is now clinched

  76. Walkaz
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 16:34:40

    (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

  77. Leftfinger
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 16:36:45

    :vcool:

  78. coffeelucky
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 16:56:20

    It's about 1.00AM now in Philippines. PPSC judges may be sleeping.

  79. Walkaz
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 16:57:11

    coffeelucky wrote: It's about 1.00AM now in Philippines. PPSC judges may be sleeping.
    do they celebrate cny? if they do then they are awake

  80. coffeelucky
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 17:14:38

    Walkaz wrote: do they celebrate cny? if they do then they are awake
    I think they don't. Different from Thai, Malaysian or Vietnamese that has Chinese ancestor, most of Philippinians ancestor are European.

  81. cheesecake
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 17:59:23

    It's 1:00 AM now in Thailand and I still awake lol..

  82. gollumsk8
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 18:30:09

    don't blame judges for taking too much time, there's a huge amont of video for the R1 and it takes a loooooooot of time to judge tournament like this... so just be patient =) PS: thx to everyone that believe i can make it to r2... its crazy

  83. Ivabra
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 19:14:32

    Two weeks is long enough, that's just bullshit. There should be a penalty or something, it's been at least 4 years or more since judges have started being late and it's getting worse each year.

  84. Ceru Seiyu
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 20:33:16

    If they were lazy they should not have signed up to be judges, simple as -.- IMO if they don't reach the deadline they should be ignored.

  85. fel2fram
    Date: Sun, Feb 10 2013 21:30:02

    I agree >.>