UPSB v4

Advanced Tricks / Hand, Wrist, Arm Arounds / Busts

  1. Eso
    Date: Sat, Jun 12 2010 02:42:09

    Use this thread to discuss the Wristaround and Handaround. Wristaround Reverse video example by Pen Ninja Handaround Reverse video examples by Pen Ninja Wristaround Riser Normal ~ TA tutorial by {TH}Enzo Armaround (Punkan) tutorial by KTrinh93

  2. Koksi
    Date: Thu, Jun 24 2010 10:51:22

    Eso wrote: Use this thread to discuss the Wristaround and Handaround. Wristaround tutorial by Pari
    That isn't a wristaround/handaround.

  3. matthewgame
    Date: Thu, Jun 24 2010 12:53:16

    Is it a combo???

  4. Hippo2626
    Date: Sun, Jun 27 2010 11:54:02

    This trick was invented by Pyralux where the pen rotates around the wrist fingerlessly in 1 revolutions. The rotations are generated from hitting the pen with the top of the wrist. This trick can be done continuously. The trick was wrongly named Pukan by Spinnerpeem when he did it in the WC10 finals video: [video=youtube;v9rShM1Y2Rw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9rShM1Y2Rw[/video] Video tutorial by {TH}Enzo: [video=youtube;9kXok45El4w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kXok45El4w[/video]

  5. Freeman
    Date: Sun, Jun 27 2010 12:14:03

    The trick Pyralux and Spinnerpeem did is a Fingerless Armaround, not a "Wristbust". It goes around the forearm, not the wrist.

  6. Hippo2626
    Date: Sun, Jun 27 2010 12:30:44

    Thanks for the correction but the concept would still apply to the armbust and the wristbust.

  7. i.suk
    Date: Sun, Jun 27 2010 13:35:53

    peem didn't wrongly name it, he just gave it a thai name...

  8. BiG_dEN
    Date: Sun, Jun 27 2010 17:29:46

    Who can explain me how to do this trick??? Or can you make a tutorial??? Pliz. It's not a combo

  9. Lindor
    Date: Sun, Jun 27 2010 21:16:02

    There is no need of a thai name for tricks that where already named. He was the first to perform hai tua, so maybe he was authorized to imagin a name for it (even if the real name is not that hard, it's still a double hybrid), but he was not the first to perform the armbust, this trick was already named. Even if i'm a thai spinner, i cant perform a thumbaround and name it "Khøøp-khoun".

  10. Zombo
    Date: Sun, Jun 27 2010 23:01:30

    Lindor wrote: There is no need of a thai name for tricks that where already named. He was the first to perform hai tua, so maybe he was authorized to imagin a name for it (even if the real name is not that hard, it's still a double hybrid), but he was not the first to perform the armbust, this trick was already named. Even if i'm a thai spinner, i cant perform a thumbaround and name it "Khøøp-khoun".
    who cares, they can call it whatever they want in thai, its not gonna affect the english name koreans have a different set of names for every trick, so what

  11. Koksi
    Date: Mon, Jun 28 2010 00:57:18

    Zombo wrote: who cares, they can call it whatever they want in thai, its not gonna affect the english name koreans have a different set of names for every trick, so what
    I think that too as long as they only use "thai" names in the "thai" board there will be no problem^^

  12. Milk
    Date: Mon, Jun 28 2010 07:25:48

    BiG_dEN wrote: Who can explain me how to do this trick??? Or can you make a tutorial??? Pliz. It's not a combo
    [video=youtube;LKF6n_oyPNM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKF6n_oyPNM&feature=related[/video] [video=youtube;zjqZRSBzq9Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjqZRSBzq9Q&feature=related[/video]

  13. BiG_dEN
    Date: Mon, Jun 28 2010 08:00:48

    Milk tutorial by pari is not a wristaround. Or I don't really understand this trick.

  14. Lindor
    Date: Tue, Jun 29 2010 09:53:57

    I agree with Koksi.

  15. gyrobius
    Date: Thu, Jan 13 2011 03:34:55

    I can't find a good tutorial for the Handaround. I looked on YouTube, and the wiki section of UPSB, but I can't find anything. I Don't know many pen spinning sites.

  16. vmkblaster01
    Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 03:34:24

    SHARE YOUR EXPERIENCE LEARNING THE TRICK AND POST VIDS ABOUT, TUTORIALS, RECORDS, EVEN THOUGH ITS HARD TO GET A HIGH ARM AROUND RECORD:excited: [video=youtube;HECaUt-5jJM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HECaUt-5jJM[/video]

  17. V-Storm
    Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 03:48:59

    idk, but isn't that punkan? I could be very wrong.

  18. shoeman6
    Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 03:52:41

    Punkan isn't a very technical term either.

  19. V-Storm
    Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 03:57:51

    Of course, but it's more commonly known as that. I believe it would be armaround, formally. Idk. I need to review..

  20. RicLu98
    Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 05:10:36

    i call it punkan and i've never heard the term armaround before but armaround does make more sense cuz i dont speak thai lol

  21. vmkblaster01
    Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 05:15:58

    actually i dont think there is a difference

  22. gyrobius
    Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 05:28:38

    Pyralux originally called it the arm bak.

  23. Escorpio123
    Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 05:29:53

    I think the name is actually arm around but of course in other languages they can make it popular with such name punkan :/

  24. Hippo2626
    Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 05:36:11

    http://forum.upsb.info/showthread.php?t=116 I believe this is the thread for it?

  25. i.suk
    Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 06:20:04

    a) please refrain from putting thread titles in capitals, or typing in capitals for body of the post, this is not spammer's bin and makes it hard to read b) i assume this is meant to be general 'punkan' discussion thread, change title to 'Punkan/Armaround help' or something along those lines, look at existing trick threads c) i'm sick of this naming debate. it certainly isn't armbak (coz it rotates in opposite direction to bakaround), and unless done continuously, is not really an 'armaround' either, more like arm bounce...(i think naming committee knows way more about this than i do). also most spinners' execution of this trick is not very good, so pen isn't in contact with arm for much of the pen's rotation -.- punkan is the thai name, it means 'pen goes around arm' iirc, seems to be fairly popular =__=" on topic: it's all about the timing of the ta release and where the pen is thrown, very different to aerial hai tua etc. took me a while to learn this, and i never bothered to work on it further since it's pretty much useless for combos unless you can do x5+ like peem...i've done x2 twice, and that's it.

  26. Tidus
    Date: Wed, Mar 23 2011 11:27:15

    The true name is armaround not punkan this trick has been placed in combo 2 years ago in pyralux's 2nd solo and a french spinner named near has been publish double arm around 2 years ago Near and his double armaround

    Spoiler[video=youtube;eh8uJv1EzKQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh8uJv1EzKQ[/video]
    Pyralux's 2nd solo at 0:47
    Spoiler[video=youtube;UAdge0nh_yQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAdge0nh_yQ[/video]

  27. MickChickenn
    Date: Thu, Mar 24 2011 13:57:11

    The true name is ArmBak (Look at KTrinh93s tutorial) but it is known as Pun Kan. It was invented by pyralux and used in his 2nd solo. It was made popular by Spinnerpeem, when he used it in the final round of a WT. Peem used it as a finisher, and thus it gained popularity.

  28. Freeman
    Date: Thu, Mar 24 2011 17:21:48

    The oficial way to describe this movement should be Fingerless Armaround, if properly executed.

  29. Along
    Date: Wed, Mar 30 2011 13:06:51

    dear pros, am i doing it correctly? I just learnt it today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaL5aDB3-XQ

  30. Hippo2626
    Date: Thu, Mar 31 2011 00:14:19

    Along wrote: dear pros, am i doing it correctly? I just learnt it today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaL5aDB3-XQ
    I believe your doing it right. Only thing is that sometimes your doing a FL. Wristaround and other times your doing it the way Peem did.

  31. Along
    Date: Thu, Mar 31 2011 00:26:15

    Hippo2626 wrote: I believe your doing it right. Only thing is that sometimes your doing a FL. Wristaround and other times your doing it the way Peem did.
    sorry, can u tell me when i am doing a fl?

  32. Hippo2626
    Date: Thu, Mar 31 2011 00:28:49

    Along wrote: sorry, can u tell me when i am doing a fl?
    It's not the FL. part. Some times your doing it at the wrist others at the arm. Doesn't really have that big an implication.

  33. LIMIT
    Date: Tue, May 24 2011 10:28:26

    [video=youtube;VPM7iq5QHO4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPM7iq5QHO4[/video]

  34. LIMIT
    Date: Tue, May 24 2011 10:50:31

    [video=youtube;bY_cHXlrVKo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY_cHXlrVKo[/video]

  35. Nadhif
    Date: Tue, May 24 2011 11:29:29

    LIMIT wrote: [video=youtube;bY_cHXlrVKo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY_cHXlrVKo[/video]
    LOL now this is EPIC HAHAHAAHAHA!!!!!

  36. LIMIT
    Date: Thu, May 26 2011 15:38:00

    after haitua (around the palm), punkan (around the lower arm), lets try muscle around!! (around bisep and trisep - upper arm) lol..good luck! :grin: [video=youtube;bY_cHXlrVKo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY_cHXlrVKo[/video] Extreme PowaTricka...lol.. very heavy..xD

  37. Far
    Date: Thu, May 26 2011 15:45:04

    This is the most funniest Penspinning video ever made HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

  38. Raos
    Date: Thu, May 26 2011 15:45:18

    LIMIT wrote: after haitua (around the palm), punkan (around the lower arm), lets try muscle around!! (around bisep and trisep - upper arm) lol..good luck! :grin: [video=youtube;bY_cHXlrVKo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY_cHXlrVKo[/video]
    beast and nice job and nice muscles tbh your good looking, no homo

  39. juggalo666666
    Date: Thu, May 26 2011 15:46:31

    IMPOSSIBLE HOW DO YOU DO THAT?

  40. Soren
    Date: Thu, May 26 2011 16:02:53

    looooooool i rofled when you flexed your muscles

  41. PoinT
    Date: Thu, May 26 2011 16:22:46

    WAHAHAHAHAH=) xD cool) will learn=)xD

  42. funnky
    Date: Thu, May 26 2011 16:58:28

    pppppppppppppppsssssssssssssssh HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA good stuff right there

  43. Knightpal
    Date: Thu, May 26 2011 20:18:55

    BEEEEAST. I LOL'D.

  44. spinford
    Date: Thu, May 26 2011 22:25:14

    I laughed my head off. BEST PENSPINNING COMEDY VIDEO EVER!!!!

  45. M-B-W
    Date: Thu, May 26 2011 22:46:01

    HAHAHA what was that? Random... it should be upper arm-around!

  46. Van
    Date: Thu, May 26 2011 23:12:36

    wats after the upper arm? the shoulder? the neck??

  47. Epic
    Date: Thu, May 26 2011 23:13:22

    lol nice i watche dit 5 times lol

  48. LIMIT
    Date: Fri, May 27 2011 21:31:59

    lol..hahaha..thanks guys..maybe using leg is cool:P

  49. sangara
    Date: Fri, May 27 2011 23:42:06

    You just won today, I don't know what it is, but you won it.

  50. i.suk
    Date: Fri, May 27 2011 23:46:50

    somewhere in thailand: peem goes

  51. Zombo
    Date: Sat, May 28 2011 00:07:59

    did it really go around your entire arm tho? looked like it just bounced ahahah

  52. Explosion101
    Date: Sat, May 28 2011 01:53:29

    Zombo wrote: did it really go around your entire arm tho? looked like it just bounced ahahah
    it did, if you look closely you can see it he should do a slomo or something

  53. Mufoofee
    Date: Sat, May 28 2011 02:19:55

    I laughed. Good job.

  54. LIMIT
    Date: Sat, May 28 2011 03:07:10

    Zombo wrote: did it really go around your entire arm tho? looked like it just bounced ahahah
    maybe i should make a tutorial for this?lol..xD

  55. V-Storm
    Date: Sat, May 28 2011 03:28:07

    I watched that like 5 times, each time making a "whoooosh" sound when you do the muscle around arm movement. xD

  56. MickChickenn
    Date: Sat, May 28 2011 03:44:25

    nice. I just did it a few times. its fun.

  57. LIMIT
    Date: Sun, May 29 2011 08:59:01

    MickChickenn wrote: nice. I just did it a few times. its fun.
    really? wow u're good..xD..still i have the world record for muscle around..lol...wkwkwkwkk

  58. GigaByte
    Date: Sun, May 29 2011 15:26:01

    hha . nice trick .. if u join WT and do it cont u will be the winner btw , nice muscle there

  59. LIMIT
    Date: Sun, May 29 2011 16:06:25

    GigaByte wrote: hha . nice trick .. if u join WT and do it cont u will be the winner btw , nice muscle there
    right... "if" i can do it continuously..wkwkwkwkwkwkwkk

  60. taichi1082
    Date: Sun, May 29 2011 16:58:58

    I just thought about learning this but then I realized that I have no muscles lol

  61. LIMIT
    Date: Sun, May 29 2011 17:07:01

    taichi1082 wrote: I just thought about learning this but then I realized that I have no muscles lol
    LOL..xD

  62. Zombo
    Date: Sun, May 29 2011 17:14:45

    taichi1082 wrote: I just thought about learning this but then I realized that I have no muscles lol
    its easier if your arm is less big lol

  63. LIMIT
    Date: Sun, May 29 2011 17:21:03

    agree with zombo..xD..it's very heavy using my hand...:P

  64. Zombo
    Date: Mon, May 30 2011 15:25:42

    LIMIT wrote: agree with zombo..xD..it's very heavy using my hand...:P
    what i mean is the thinner your arm the easier it is, that's why it's easier to do the around a finger than around a wrist than around an arm. hardest would be around the belly (for fat ppl) or chest

  65. LIMIT
    Date: Mon, May 30 2011 15:52:59

    LOL..that's what i meant before..my hand is bigger now..-.- because i've gym for 6 months..it's easier before because my hand thinner before..xD

  66. Bleevlee
    Date: Thu, Jun 2 2011 23:29:44

    Can anybody give me some tips for handbusting? I can rarely do even one. And I want to do two or more. D:. 0 replies, FML.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XloBbdHfEHE

  67. funnky
    Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 00:27:17

    im guessing its like a hai tua so id learn those befor u try these.

  68. Bleevlee
    Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 00:39:11

    I learned Hai Tuas a long time ago, but this isn't the same. There's no aerialness.

  69. JackyMacky
    Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 00:48:34

    @Bleevlee Like I said, the "stair-cased hand" method. The guy did it in the vid you posted when he did x2 hand bust.

  70. Bleevlee
    Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 00:49:51

    > = (

  71. i.suk
    Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 03:05:57

    master index busts, then master indexmiddle busts, then try out indexmiddlering busts (optional, does not help that much imo...but helps a little), then practice 'hand bust' also it helps if you start from aerial hai tua motion, as the movement of the hand in hand bust is way more similar to 2nd part of aerial hai tua than it is to 1st part of hai tua/cont hai tua, imo. someone commented before "it looks like you're repeatedly slapping someone" <-- maybe imagine it like this? xD some videos of it: [video=youtube;Qh1_Yt7vRBo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh1_Yt7vRBo[/video] x7 from 00:28 to 00:33-ish (aerial hai tua start, shameless self advertising by me...if you want i can make another video with slow motion -.-) [video=youtube;rM-U30kL-kw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM-U30kL-kw[/video] x5,6,7 by A13x (hai tua start)

  72. Bleevlee
    Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 03:19:31

    They all have aerialness though... FINE I'LL HAVE AIR. :( AND slowmo plox... If it's not any trouble D:.

  73. MickChickenn
    Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 03:24:18

    Fire@Fox has a really good vid of him doing 5.

  74. MickChickenn
    Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 03:26:54

    Look for "Peem Style Spread 5x by Fire@Fox"

  75. JackyMacky
    Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 03:51:33

    @Bleevlee It's suppose to have aerial. Other wise you can't bust it at all.

  76. Bleevlee
    Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 04:02:25

    If there isn't aerial it looks more skillful though... So basically... All handbusts are are hai tuas without the thumbaround part.

  77. i.suk
    Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 04:25:02

    Bleevlee wrote: If there isn't aerial it looks more skillful though... So basically... All handbusts are are hai tuas without the thumbaround part.
    no, handbusts have 1.0 rotations, hai tua has 1.5 rotations (when done continuously) edit: 'handbust' demonstration vid will be up soon on my secondary channel, will post here later

  78. Bleevlee
    Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 04:51:44

    That's not true, because handarounds, unlike indexarounds and stuff, do spins on top of the hand. If you know what I mean.

  79. thebloodgod
    Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 09:09:56

    to do this trick practice ayatori and the FL indexbak rev from ayatori throw position,anyway this trick looks like an index ayatori start with Tw.bust and without the throw or the haitua start with bust and land on the index idk...:|

  80. i.suk
    Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 09:30:13

    @Bleevlee [video=youtube;h06zKgE-0uQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h06zKgE-0uQ[/video] x8,9,10, slow motion x1/2 and x1/4, and fs with hai tua > hand bust x 2 ending

  81. Soren
    Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 14:43:13

    nice busting i.suk

  82. Bleevlee
    Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 22:55:06

    It looks like you're just bumping the pen like the second part of an air hai tua. And also I think this info is useless until I get a new mod... Fucking fragile reynolds caps... :(

  83. i.suk
    Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 22:59:54

    Bleevlee wrote: It looks like you're just bumping the pen like the second part of an air hai tua. And also I think this info is useless until I get a new mod... Fucking fragile reynolds caps... :(
    it is a bust with the hand, when the style/execution of it is refined, it will look somewhat like what i am doing? xD aim is to make it look as much like normal busts as possible, imo...but a lot harder ofc

  84. Bleevlee
    Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 23:04:20

    I guess it could be like a bust, depending on somebody's busting style..

  85. Van
    Date: Tue, Jun 7 2011 20:00:31

    Van wrote: wats after the upper arm? the shoulder? [B]the neck??[/B]
    I didn't REALLY mean this u know... [video=youtube;XfMMOcA6mXk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfMMOcA6mXk[/video]

  86. Bleevlee
    Date: Tue, Jun 7 2011 22:17:52

    FUKING PRO

  87. LIMIT
    Date: Wed, Jun 8 2011 01:12:38

    yeah i've seen that before..neck around man..-.-a

  88. MightAsWellGG
    Date: Wed, Jun 8 2011 22:22:52

    i wonder if anyone is gonna try a body around, like around the stomach/waist region lol that would be tough

  89. 171c
    Date: Fri, Jun 10 2011 07:31:10

    i even can't do 2x punkan-.-