UPSB v4
Advanced Tricks / Hand, Wrist, Arm Arounds / Busts
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Date: Sat, Jun 12 2010 02:42:09
Use this thread to discuss the Wristaround and Handaround. Wristaround Reverse video example by Pen Ninja Handaround Reverse video examples by Pen Ninja Wristaround Riser Normal ~ TA tutorial by {TH}Enzo Armaround (Punkan) tutorial by KTrinh93
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Date: Thu, Jun 24 2010 10:51:22
Eso wrote: Use this thread to discuss the Wristaround and Handaround. Wristaround tutorial by Pari
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Date: Thu, Jun 24 2010 12:53:16
Is it a combo???
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Date: Sun, Jun 27 2010 11:54:02
This trick was invented by Pyralux where the pen rotates around the wrist fingerlessly in 1 revolutions. The rotations are generated from hitting the pen with the top of the wrist. This trick can be done continuously. The trick was wrongly named Pukan by Spinnerpeem when he did it in the WC10 finals video: [video=youtube;v9rShM1Y2Rw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9rShM1Y2Rw[/video] Video tutorial by {TH}Enzo: [video=youtube;9kXok45El4w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kXok45El4w[/video]
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Date: Sun, Jun 27 2010 12:14:03
The trick Pyralux and Spinnerpeem did is a Fingerless Armaround, not a "Wristbust". It goes around the forearm, not the wrist.
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Date: Sun, Jun 27 2010 12:30:44
Thanks for the correction but the concept would still apply to the armbust and the wristbust.
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Date: Sun, Jun 27 2010 13:35:53
peem didn't wrongly name it, he just gave it a thai name...
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Date: Sun, Jun 27 2010 17:29:46
Who can explain me how to do this trick??? Or can you make a tutorial??? Pliz. It's not a combo
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Date: Sun, Jun 27 2010 21:16:02
There is no need of a thai name for tricks that where already named. He was the first to perform hai tua, so maybe he was authorized to imagin a name for it (even if the real name is not that hard, it's still a double hybrid), but he was not the first to perform the armbust, this trick was already named. Even if i'm a thai spinner, i cant perform a thumbaround and name it "Khøøp-khoun".
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Date: Sun, Jun 27 2010 23:01:30
Lindor wrote: There is no need of a thai name for tricks that where already named. He was the first to perform hai tua, so maybe he was authorized to imagin a name for it (even if the real name is not that hard, it's still a double hybrid), but he was not the first to perform the armbust, this trick was already named. Even if i'm a thai spinner, i cant perform a thumbaround and name it "Khøøp-khoun".
who cares, they can call it whatever they want in thai, its not gonna affect the english name koreans have a different set of names for every trick, so what -
Date: Mon, Jun 28 2010 00:57:18
Zombo wrote: who cares, they can call it whatever they want in thai, its not gonna affect the english name koreans have a different set of names for every trick, so what
I think that too as long as they only use "thai" names in the "thai" board there will be no problem^^ -
Date: Mon, Jun 28 2010 07:25:48
BiG_dEN wrote: Who can explain me how to do this trick??? Or can you make a tutorial??? Pliz. It's not a combo
[video=youtube;LKF6n_oyPNM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKF6n_oyPNM&feature=related[/video] [video=youtube;zjqZRSBzq9Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjqZRSBzq9Q&feature=related[/video] -
Date: Mon, Jun 28 2010 08:00:48
Milk tutorial by pari is not a wristaround. Or I don't really understand this trick.
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Date: Tue, Jun 29 2010 09:53:57
I agree with Koksi.
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Date: Thu, Jan 13 2011 03:34:55
I can't find a good tutorial for the Handaround. I looked on YouTube, and the wiki section of UPSB, but I can't find anything. I Don't know many pen spinning sites.
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Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 03:34:24
SHARE YOUR EXPERIENCE LEARNING THE TRICK AND POST VIDS ABOUT, TUTORIALS, RECORDS, EVEN THOUGH ITS HARD TO GET A HIGH ARM AROUND RECORD:excited: [video=youtube;HECaUt-5jJM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HECaUt-5jJM[/video]
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Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 03:48:59
idk, but isn't that punkan? I could be very wrong.
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Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 03:52:41
Punkan isn't a very technical term either.
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Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 03:57:51
Of course, but it's more commonly known as that. I believe it would be armaround, formally. Idk. I need to review..
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Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 05:10:36
i call it punkan and i've never heard the term armaround before but armaround does make more sense cuz i dont speak thai lol
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Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 05:15:58
actually i dont think there is a difference
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Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 05:28:38
Pyralux originally called it the arm bak.
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Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 05:29:53
I think the name is actually arm around but of course in other languages they can make it popular with such name punkan :/
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Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 05:36:11
http://forum.upsb.info/showthread.php?t=116 I believe this is the thread for it?
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Date: Mon, Mar 21 2011 06:20:04
a) please refrain from putting thread titles in capitals, or typing in capitals for body of the post, this is not spammer's bin and makes it hard to read b) i assume this is meant to be general 'punkan' discussion thread, change title to 'Punkan/Armaround help' or something along those lines, look at existing trick threads c) i'm sick of this naming debate. it certainly isn't armbak (coz it rotates in opposite direction to bakaround), and unless done continuously, is not really an 'armaround' either, more like arm bounce...(i think naming committee knows way more about this than i do). also most spinners' execution of this trick is not very good, so pen isn't in contact with arm for much of the pen's rotation -.- punkan is the thai name, it means 'pen goes around arm' iirc, seems to be fairly popular =__=" on topic: it's all about the timing of the ta release and where the pen is thrown, very different to aerial hai tua etc. took me a while to learn this, and i never bothered to work on it further since it's pretty much useless for combos unless you can do x5+ like peem...i've done x2 twice, and that's it.
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Date: Wed, Mar 23 2011 11:27:15
The true name is armaround not punkan this trick has been placed in combo 2 years ago in pyralux's 2nd solo and a french spinner named near has been publish double arm around 2 years ago Near and his double armaround
Pyralux's 2nd solo at 0:47Spoiler
[video=youtube;eh8uJv1EzKQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh8uJv1EzKQ[/video]Spoiler
[video=youtube;UAdge0nh_yQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAdge0nh_yQ[/video] -
Date: Thu, Mar 24 2011 13:57:11
The true name is ArmBak (Look at KTrinh93s tutorial) but it is known as Pun Kan. It was invented by pyralux and used in his 2nd solo. It was made popular by Spinnerpeem, when he used it in the final round of a WT. Peem used it as a finisher, and thus it gained popularity.
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Date: Thu, Mar 24 2011 17:21:48
The oficial way to describe this movement should be Fingerless Armaround, if properly executed.
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Date: Wed, Mar 30 2011 13:06:51
dear pros, am i doing it correctly? I just learnt it today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaL5aDB3-XQ
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Date: Thu, Mar 31 2011 00:14:19
Along wrote: dear pros, am i doing it correctly? I just learnt it today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaL5aDB3-XQ
I believe your doing it right. Only thing is that sometimes your doing a FL. Wristaround and other times your doing it the way Peem did. -
Date: Thu, Mar 31 2011 00:26:15
Hippo2626 wrote: I believe your doing it right. Only thing is that sometimes your doing a FL. Wristaround and other times your doing it the way Peem did.
sorry, can u tell me when i am doing a fl? -
Date: Thu, Mar 31 2011 00:28:49
Along wrote: sorry, can u tell me when i am doing a fl?
It's not the FL. part. Some times your doing it at the wrist others at the arm. Doesn't really have that big an implication. -
Date: Tue, May 24 2011 10:28:26
[video=youtube;VPM7iq5QHO4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPM7iq5QHO4[/video]
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Date: Tue, May 24 2011 10:50:31
[video=youtube;bY_cHXlrVKo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY_cHXlrVKo[/video]
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Date: Tue, May 24 2011 11:29:29
LIMIT wrote: [video=youtube;bY_cHXlrVKo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY_cHXlrVKo[/video]
LOL now this is EPIC HAHAHAAHAHA!!!!! -
Date: Thu, May 26 2011 15:38:00
after haitua (around the palm), punkan (around the lower arm), lets try muscle around!! (around bisep and trisep - upper arm) lol..good luck! :grin: [video=youtube;bY_cHXlrVKo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY_cHXlrVKo[/video] Extreme PowaTricka...lol.. very heavy..xD
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Date: Thu, May 26 2011 15:45:04
This is the most funniest Penspinning video ever made HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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Date: Thu, May 26 2011 15:45:18
LIMIT wrote: after haitua (around the palm), punkan (around the lower arm), lets try muscle around!! (around bisep and trisep - upper arm) lol..good luck! :grin: [video=youtube;bY_cHXlrVKo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY_cHXlrVKo[/video]
beast and nice job and nice muscles tbh your good looking, no homo -
Date: Thu, May 26 2011 15:46:31
IMPOSSIBLE HOW DO YOU DO THAT?
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Date: Thu, May 26 2011 16:02:53
looooooool i rofled when you flexed your muscles
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Date: Thu, May 26 2011 16:22:46
WAHAHAHAHAH=) xD cool) will learn=)xD
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Date: Thu, May 26 2011 16:58:28
pppppppppppppppsssssssssssssssh HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA good stuff right there
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Date: Thu, May 26 2011 20:18:55
BEEEEAST. I LOL'D.
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Date: Thu, May 26 2011 22:25:14
I laughed my head off. BEST PENSPINNING COMEDY VIDEO EVER!!!!
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Date: Thu, May 26 2011 22:46:01
HAHAHA what was that? Random... it should be upper arm-around!
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Date: Thu, May 26 2011 23:12:36
wats after the upper arm? the shoulder? the neck??
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Date: Thu, May 26 2011 23:13:22
lol nice i watche dit 5 times lol
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Date: Fri, May 27 2011 21:31:59
lol..hahaha..thanks guys..maybe using leg is cool:P
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Date: Fri, May 27 2011 23:42:06
You just won today, I don't know what it is, but you won it.
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Date: Fri, May 27 2011 23:46:50
somewhere in thailand: peem goes
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Date: Sat, May 28 2011 00:07:59
did it really go around your entire arm tho? looked like it just bounced ahahah
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Date: Sat, May 28 2011 01:53:29
Zombo wrote: did it really go around your entire arm tho? looked like it just bounced ahahah
it did, if you look closely you can see it he should do a slomo or something -
Date: Sat, May 28 2011 02:19:55
I laughed. Good job.
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Date: Sat, May 28 2011 03:07:10
Zombo wrote: did it really go around your entire arm tho? looked like it just bounced ahahah
maybe i should make a tutorial for this?lol..xD -
Date: Sat, May 28 2011 03:28:07
I watched that like 5 times, each time making a "whoooosh" sound when you do the muscle around arm movement. xD
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Date: Sat, May 28 2011 03:44:25
nice. I just did it a few times. its fun.
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Date: Sun, May 29 2011 08:59:01
MickChickenn wrote: nice. I just did it a few times. its fun.
really? wow u're good..xD..still i have the world record for muscle around..lol...wkwkwkwkk -
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 15:26:01
hha . nice trick .. if u join WT and do it cont u will be the winner btw , nice muscle there
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Date: Sun, May 29 2011 16:06:25
GigaByte wrote: hha . nice trick .. if u join WT and do it cont u will be the winner btw , nice muscle there
right... "if" i can do it continuously..wkwkwkwkwkwkwkk -
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 16:58:58
I just thought about learning this but then I realized that I have no muscles lol
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Date: Sun, May 29 2011 17:07:01
taichi1082 wrote: I just thought about learning this but then I realized that I have no muscles lol
LOL..xD -
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 17:14:45
taichi1082 wrote: I just thought about learning this but then I realized that I have no muscles lol
its easier if your arm is less big lol -
Date: Sun, May 29 2011 17:21:03
agree with zombo..xD..it's very heavy using my hand...:P
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Date: Mon, May 30 2011 15:25:42
LIMIT wrote: agree with zombo..xD..it's very heavy using my hand...:P
what i mean is the thinner your arm the easier it is, that's why it's easier to do the around a finger than around a wrist than around an arm. hardest would be around the belly (for fat ppl) or chest -
Date: Mon, May 30 2011 15:52:59
LOL..that's what i meant before..my hand is bigger now..-.- because i've gym for 6 months..it's easier before because my hand thinner before..xD
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Date: Thu, Jun 2 2011 23:29:44
Can anybody give me some tips for handbusting? I can rarely do even one. And I want to do two or more. D:. 0 replies, FML.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XloBbdHfEHE
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Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 00:27:17
im guessing its like a hai tua so id learn those befor u try these.
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Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 00:39:11
I learned Hai Tuas a long time ago, but this isn't the same. There's no aerialness.
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Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 00:48:34
@Bleevlee Like I said, the "stair-cased hand" method. The guy did it in the vid you posted when he did x2 hand bust.
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Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 00:49:51
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Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 03:05:57
master index busts, then master indexmiddle busts, then try out indexmiddlering busts (optional, does not help that much imo...but helps a little), then practice 'hand bust' also it helps if you start from aerial hai tua motion, as the movement of the hand in hand bust is way more similar to 2nd part of aerial hai tua than it is to 1st part of hai tua/cont hai tua, imo. someone commented before "it looks like you're repeatedly slapping someone" <-- maybe imagine it like this? xD some videos of it: [video=youtube;Qh1_Yt7vRBo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh1_Yt7vRBo[/video] x7 from 00:28 to 00:33-ish (aerial hai tua start, shameless self advertising by me...if you want i can make another video with slow motion -.-) [video=youtube;rM-U30kL-kw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM-U30kL-kw[/video] x5,6,7 by A13x (hai tua start)
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Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 03:19:31
They all have aerialness though... FINE I'LL HAVE AIR. :( AND slowmo plox... If it's not any trouble D:.
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Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 03:24:18
Fire@Fox has a really good vid of him doing 5.
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Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 03:26:54
Look for "Peem Style Spread 5x by Fire@Fox"
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Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 03:51:33
@Bleevlee It's suppose to have aerial. Other wise you can't bust it at all.
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Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 04:02:25
If there isn't aerial it looks more skillful though... So basically... All handbusts are are hai tuas without the thumbaround part.
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Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 04:25:02
Bleevlee wrote: If there isn't aerial it looks more skillful though... So basically... All handbusts are are hai tuas without the thumbaround part.
no, handbusts have 1.0 rotations, hai tua has 1.5 rotations (when done continuously) edit: 'handbust' demonstration vid will be up soon on my secondary channel, will post here later -
Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 04:51:44
That's not true, because handarounds, unlike indexarounds and stuff, do spins on top of the hand. If you know what I mean.
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Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 09:09:56
to do this trick practice ayatori and the FL indexbak rev from ayatori throw position,anyway this trick looks like an index ayatori start with Tw.bust and without the throw or the haitua start with bust and land on the index idk...:|
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Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 09:30:13
@Bleevlee [video=youtube;h06zKgE-0uQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h06zKgE-0uQ[/video] x8,9,10, slow motion x1/2 and x1/4, and fs with hai tua > hand bust x 2 ending
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Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 14:43:13
nice busting i.suk
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Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 22:55:06
It looks like you're just bumping the pen like the second part of an air hai tua. And also I think this info is useless until I get a new mod... Fucking fragile reynolds caps... :(
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Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 22:59:54
Bleevlee wrote: It looks like you're just bumping the pen like the second part of an air hai tua. And also I think this info is useless until I get a new mod... Fucking fragile reynolds caps... :(
it is a bust with the hand, when the style/execution of it is refined, it will look somewhat like what i am doing? xD aim is to make it look as much like normal busts as possible, imo...but a lot harder ofc -
Date: Fri, Jun 3 2011 23:04:20
I guess it could be like a bust, depending on somebody's busting style..
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Date: Tue, Jun 7 2011 20:00:31
Van wrote: wats after the upper arm? the shoulder? [B]the neck??[/B]
I didn't REALLY mean this u know... [video=youtube;XfMMOcA6mXk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfMMOcA6mXk[/video] -
Date: Tue, Jun 7 2011 22:17:52
FUKING PRO
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Date: Wed, Jun 8 2011 01:12:38
yeah i've seen that before..neck around man..-.-a
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Date: Wed, Jun 8 2011 22:22:52
i wonder if anyone is gonna try a body around, like around the stomach/waist region lol that would be tough
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Date: Fri, Jun 10 2011 07:31:10
i even can't do 2x punkan-.-