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Fundamental Tricks / Thumbaround Normal
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Date: Tue, Jun 8 2010 08:11:16
[B]Thumbaround Normal[/B] This trick involves using the middle finger to push a pen over the thumb. It will spin 360 degrees and in a counterclockwise direction (right handed). It is also possible to push using the index finger, ring finger, or pinky finger, but it is easiest to learn using the middle finger. Video Tutorial by shoeman6 Video tutorial by KTrinh93 Video tutorial by Pari UPSB Wiki entry Thumbaround Reverse has it's own thread, so post any questions or discussion regarding that in that thread.
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Date: Sat, Jul 10 2010 21:55:54
Whenever I try the thumbaround, my pencil always goes around my thumb and hits my index finger. Any ideas on how I can fix this? Whenever I bring my index finger below the pencil, it causes it to be off-balanced. Sorry if this has been asked, but i'm new to forums and have no idea how to find answers to questions that have already been asked.
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Date: Sat, Jul 10 2010 22:06:00
GreenTomato wrote: Whenever I try the thumbaround, my pencil always goes around my thumb and hits my index finger. Any ideas on how I can fix this? Whenever I bring my index finger below the pencil, it causes it to be off-balanced. Sorry if this has been asked, but i'm new to forums and have no idea how to find answers to questions that have already been asked.
do a couple of thumbarounds just focusing on the motion of the index finger. maybe just leave it completely stretched and let the pen fall or just catch it with your palm. then work on moving it back in to catch the pen -
Date: Thu, Aug 26 2010 00:05:10
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Date: Thu, Aug 26 2010 00:07:14
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Date: Thu, Aug 26 2010 00:08:09
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Date: Thu, Aug 26 2010 00:09:04
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
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Date: Thu, Aug 26 2010 00:12:20
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Date: Thu, Aug 26 2010 20:30:08
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Date: Thu, Aug 26 2010 20:31:19
DAMMIT!!!!!
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Date: Thu, Aug 26 2010 20:33:47
BAN ME I DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Date: Fri, Sep 10 2010 17:45:47
when i try this trick it just flies off somewhere or goes over my thumb how could i fix that
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Date: Fri, Sep 10 2010 18:39:50
try not having your thumb vertical, keep it ALMOST horizontal to the ground and try trying it with different starting points on the pen. It also helps to first try it with something heavier/longer, then get lighter and shorter. you could try connecting to unsharpened pencils with tape if you dont have anything better at the moment.
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Date: Thu, Sep 16 2010 06:33:14
Also, while doing a TA, try to keep the pen going around near the middle joint of your thumb. It's easiest to push the pen with your middle finger. Just my 2 basic tips xD
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Date: Fri, Sep 17 2010 22:13:58
I find it easier to push with the index, but I can't catch it, it just spins over top of my index finger. How do you catch it when you push with the index?
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Date: Thu, Sep 23 2010 08:22:49
Check this tutorial out, it will help solve your problem http://www.pens.co.uk/news/pen-spinning/promotional-pen-spinning-2.php
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Date: Sun, Sep 26 2010 19:43:09
Erzz wrote: I find it easier to push with the index, but I can't catch it, it just spins over top of my index finger. How do you catch it when you push with the index?
with my index...lolz. it would be ideal to be able to push with all 4 fingers, the thumb, and even the other hand -
Date: Tue, Sep 28 2010 13:18:06
GreenTomato wrote: Whenever I try the thumbaround, my pencil always goes around my thumb and hits my index finger. Any ideas on how I can fix this? Whenever I bring my index finger below the pencil, it causes it to be off-balanced. Sorry if this has been asked, but i'm new to forums and have no idea how to find answers to questions that have already been asked.
try stretching your index finger all the way. even aft you finish thumbaround. your pencil shld roll on your index thn fall from your hand. when your pencil is rolling on your index finger just retract your finger and it shld be a complete thumbaround. -
Date: Mon, Oct 18 2010 08:02:40
i find it weird how this is the hardest fundamental trick for me =/
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Date: Mon, Oct 18 2010 08:41:55
Sk1ttzar wrote: i find it weird how this is the hardest fundamental trick for me =/
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Date: Mon, Oct 18 2010 14:11:32
Just keep on practicing guys. It was the hardest for me, too (if you don't include charge rev, that was a bitch to learn). Just keep trying with different push force or just how you're doing it. Any time it may just click in your head and you will get it. From then on you'll be able to do it perfectly.
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Date: Mon, Oct 18 2010 15:50:23
Just some suggestions when doing a TA(its what i tell everyone): 1.Keep ur hand still, dont move it at all 2.Postion the pen so that ur fingers arent in the COP but near the end 3.Kinda stick out ur index finger when u push the pen so that it doesnt hit ur finger and stop the pen Correct me if im wrong at any point
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Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 02:20:47
some tips for the TA if your just learning the trick its best to put the thumb 1 thumb distance away from the center of balance push with middle finger (middle finger on center of balance) at the beginning of the trick the index fingure should be on the other side of the pen from the thumb then push with middle pull back index and then catch with index hoped that helps
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Date: Mon, Dec 13 2010 18:44:07
ahhh, the thumbaround, the first trick i learnt =], took my quite a while, about a week i think, i dont really remember
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Date: Fri, Dec 17 2010 20:32:32
[video=youtube;7VUjvRUilHA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VUjvRUilHA&feature=related[/video]
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Date: Sat, Dec 18 2010 01:53:54
Way really helped me learn this trick is to watch a wide variatybof tutorilad becuz each tutorial has different tips on it so that had helpped me alot with improving my ta. I learned the ta probably in like a week but when I really started to get ino it during one of my class periods I could finally do it.
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Date: Sun, Dec 19 2010 22:53:00
you should keep your thumb completely still while doing the trick push lightly with middle finger start out slow hope this will help
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Date: Tue, Dec 21 2010 12:16:29
most people tend to bend the thumb so that the pen will roll on top of it but i nver did that while learning. for the TA to work the thumb has to be striaght up and not moving let the pen move around it not the other way around.
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Date: Thu, Feb 17 2011 13:28:26
So, I was doing turnarounds, as I'm new to pen spinning, and then I saw some tutorials and saw that the way I'm doing it isn't the same as everyone else is. Now, the diffrence is that I'm holding back the presure with my index finger at the top of the pen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L595XHGwfUo So, is this still called Turnaround, no variation? Or should I just do it as the all other is, for some reason? Or is this way perfectly fine, as it ends the same?
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Date: Thu, Feb 17 2011 13:43:31
it is still a Thumbaround,
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Date: Thu, Feb 17 2011 13:49:16
Nothing but a Thumbaround :D It spins around your thumb, so it's a thumbaround ....
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Date: Thu, Feb 17 2011 13:50:24
Yeah, I thought so, but I got curious when my friend said it wasen't. Thanks for confirming it for me.
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Date: Thu, Feb 17 2011 14:00:41
Yeah, it's a thumbaround. But you must learn to do a thumbaround with just pushing the pen with your index finger. It will really help in doing combos/linkages.
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Date: Thu, Feb 17 2011 23:44:06
thats what my friend does cuz it makes the catch easier since ur index is already out but if ur gonna really pen spin (like combos) you need to learn the normal way
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Date: Sat, Mar 12 2011 04:18:43
[video=youtube;rI981Nx1Mxc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI981Nx1Mxc[/video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI981Nx1Mxc this tut is mine, it might help
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Date: Fri, Mar 18 2011 23:27:18
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Date: Sun, Mar 20 2011 01:55:59
here trying stretching your index finger out and pushing the pen with your middle finger. This should help [video=youtube;FAci46yECvI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAci46yECvI[/video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDwDepV3BVg
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Date: Tue, Mar 29 2011 08:17:58
So check this out! I showed my cousin few days ago, who is out of the penspin stuff, a thumbaround. He was pleased by it's view and tried it out himself. Guess what?? (I must say he didn't spin something before) ONE SHOT ONE KILL!! omg... And not even with a pen, but a twig! wtf...
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Date: Tue, Mar 29 2011 10:49:02
D_Jay, that is insane! You certainly have one talented friend haha. You should teach him more tricks :P
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Date: Wed, Mar 30 2011 13:40:47
Wow!! Give him some more pens to spin and he'll be a good spinner, haha
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Date: Sun, Apr 24 2011 22:50:07
[video=youtube;uUkZgY03pZ4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUkZgY03pZ4[/video] Hello people! This is my first attempt at editing a long video and making a tutorial. I know that there are plenty out there already, but any other comments on the tutorial are welcome.
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Date: Wed, Apr 27 2011 15:57:03
Best TA Tut I've ever seen!!!!! Please make Tut's for every Trick!!! ;) I need harder Tricks!^^
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Date: Sat, Apr 30 2011 02:55:38
Thanks haha - I have yet to master perfectly a good number of harder tricks though (and a slow-mo video is not useful for every trick).
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Date: Sat, May 21 2011 03:24:48
When i do this i cant seem to catch it...:spin:
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Date: Sat, May 21 2011 03:37:55
practice :3
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Date: Sat, May 21 2011 03:56:17
yeah eventually i will get it!!!:reindeer:
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Date: Sun, May 22 2011 09:55:01
Dw if you get a balanced pen, and just give it hald an hour, you'll get it :D
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Date: Sun, May 22 2011 15:11:22
Yes, but the TA is the kind of trick you'd want to be doing in class or with a normal pen, so learning it with a pen mod (other than maybe an MX) is kind of lame.
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Date: Sun, May 22 2011 15:23:31
I kinda just use a wooden pencil, not to short, or back capped rsvp those work wonders if youre trying to spin in class
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Date: Mon, May 23 2011 07:46:48
i think i got it know. I was using a bictory modded pen.
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Date: Tue, May 24 2011 01:06:00
Back then, I got depressed on learning the Thumbaround cause it's so hard D: Practice makes perfect buddy (:
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Date: Tue, Jun 21 2011 07:50:22
Nope i figured out i was doing it wrong because my BRO said so.. i have been practicing and now finally have it.
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Date: Thu, Jun 23 2011 06:34:05
I found that it is a lot easier if you record a video of you trying the trick and watch it back for analysis. You should also mark the COB for reference. It helped very much for me.
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Date: Mon, Jun 27 2011 08:36:00
I had fun learning this when I first started :L
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Date: Tue, Jul 19 2011 08:03:13
i used a few vids to help me, but, practice makes perfect :D
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Date: Wed, Oct 5 2011 07:07:37
Hi im a new penspinner and i was just wondering if the pen should go around the thumb once or twice in a normal ta, ive watched a couple of tutorials and they seem to go around twice, but when i do it it just goes around my thumb once
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Date: Wed, Oct 5 2011 07:28:39
Hi welcome to UPSB. The thumbaround only goes around the thumb once. It makes only 1 revolution. Also next time please search before posting a new thread. http://forum.upsb.info/showthread.php?t=11
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Date: Wed, Oct 5 2011 08:17:30
Relief wrote: Hi im a new penspinner and i was just wondering if the pen should go around the thumb once or twice in a normal ta, ive watched a couple of tutorials and [B]they seem to go around twice,[/B] but when i do it it just goes around my thumb once
You referred to a Continuous ThumbAround 2x. Or maybe it was a ThumbAround ~ Fingerless ThumbAround. :hmm: -
Date: Wed, Oct 5 2011 08:39:19
or maybe it was a thumbspin
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Date: Wed, Oct 5 2011 16:03:42
A thumbaround is basically when the pen spins once, and it goes to the 12 position - a 360 degree spin.
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Date: Wed, Oct 5 2011 19:26:20
USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION.
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Date: Fri, Oct 14 2011 07:17:13
How do you do thumbaround palm down? Do you have to push harder to make it go around your thumb? Because it always falls out of my hand.
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Date: Sat, Oct 15 2011 05:25:31
davidgreece wrote: How do you do thumbaround palm down? Do you have to push harder to make it go around your thumb? Because it always falls out of my hand.
You do need more force for it. It is hard to do anyway so don't expect more force to be your answer. :p -
Date: Tue, Jan 10 2012 21:31:27
Yeah, TA palm down seems... intense? o.O maybe that's because I'm still practicing my regular TAs and TArevs, but I'll definitely have to mess around with the palm down version sometime soon. As far as the TA goes, I was trying to teach my fiance the regular TA, but it just kept flying off her hand lol. Maybe I was explaining it badly xD
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Date: Tue, Jan 10 2012 21:37:43
@zan314 Its Most likely not your explaining its probably the way they think of it in their mind or that they just can't do it when I try to show someone a trick and how its held they ALWAYS hold it wrong or try to push the pen wrong or do something incorrectly
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Date: Wed, Jan 11 2012 16:34:56
platinumsj wrote: @zan314 Its Most likely not your explaining its probably the way they think of it in their mind or that they just can't do it when I try to show someone a trick and how its held they ALWAYS hold it wrong or try to push the pen wrong or do something incorrectly
Yeah, I'm pretty sure she was holding it wrong, because it would be sitting on her hand and then BAM go flying. I think she was trying to do the snapping motion WAAAAY too hard. I was like O.O -
Date: Fri, Jan 27 2012 13:53:41
not that hard :O
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Date: Fri, Jan 27 2012 15:03:29
Probably been said a few times, but one tip is to NOT expect force to get the pen around your thumb. It's not a matter of hitting the pen, but giving it a push. A lot of people make that mistake...speaking from experience here. XD
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Date: Fri, Feb 10 2012 08:21:30
What you need is just restWhat you need is just restWhat you need is just rest
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Date: Thu, Feb 16 2012 20:40:43
eternal_fiction wrote: Probably been said a few times, but one tip is to NOT expect force to get the pen around your thumb. It's not a matter of hitting the pen, but giving it a push. A lot of people make that mistake...speaking from experience here. XD
actually a lot of people in my class do it by letting the pen drop from the top of their thumb. not actually pushing it. but, it doesnt look as good and the success rate is obviously lower -
Date: Tue, Feb 21 2012 08:02:05
When you catch the pen should it be caught with both your middle finger and your index finger or just your index finger?
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Date: Tue, Feb 21 2012 22:46:43
Vulcan wrote: When you catch the pen should it be caught with both your middle finger and your index finger or just your index finger?
the pen is sorta in between the index middle and thumb. You put your index on top of the pen when you catch. You should try to watch some videos and slomos it might help you understand better -
Date: Wed, Feb 22 2012 06:04:44
yay i finally got it!
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Date: Wed, Feb 22 2012 12:20:14
I've explained the TA to a lot of different people and they can all successfully do it now. Here is something along the lines of what I say. -Make a peace sign, and position your thumb right across from your index finger. -Pinch/hold the pen with your thumb and index fingers around the back cap area, with most of the weight on the (left hand side if you're right handed - right hand side if you're left handed.) -Position your middle finger around the center of the pen. -Angle the pen so that the side with more weight is slightly facing down some. -Keep your thumb completely still. -Push with your middle finger towards you, and point away from you with your index finger at the same time. The hardest part is figuring out how much force to use, once you or whoever you're teaching gets that down it should be simple.
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Date: Wed, Feb 22 2012 22:07:00
Vulcan wrote: yay i finally got it!
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Date: Fri, Feb 24 2012 18:23:56
This thread is great, but its just a bit sad to see people from like 2010 only have 1 post because they learned the thumbaround and just left it at that...
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Date: Sat, Feb 25 2012 21:18:51
jliba12 wrote: This thread is great, but its just a bit sad to see people from like 2010 only have 1 post because they learned the thumbaround and just left it at that...
that's probably because they're not interested in psing but still want to learn 1 trick with the pen. a lot of my friends learned ta (some charge), then didnt even bother to learn something else, not even ta harmonic -
Date: Mon, Feb 27 2012 09:45:17
Karrot wrote: that's probably because they're not interested in psing but still want to learn 1 trick with the pen. a lot of my friends learned ta (some charge), then didnt even bother to learn something else, not even ta harmonic
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Date: Sun, Mar 11 2012 02:05:19
The only problem I'm having is that my middle finger moves ALOT when I spin it, although it works, it looks like my middle finger is having a seizure. Now looking at it, I see when I catch the pen, it lands in between my index and middle finger, so I have to make my middle finger duck under the pencil and then end up behind the pencil. Any tips? EDIT: I also found that my thumb ducks when the pencil spins roughly 180 degrees, or near my thumb.
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Date: Sun, Mar 11 2012 18:53:54
mf wrote: The only problem I'm having is that my middle finger moves ALOT when I spin it, although it works, it looks like my middle finger is having a seizure. Now looking at it, I see when I catch the pen, it lands in between my index and middle finger, so I have to make my middle finger duck under the pencil and then end up behind the pencil. Any tips? EDIT: I also found that my thumb ducks when the pencil spins roughly 180 degrees, or near my thumb.
Do not move your thumb. Keep it still, it should end between the index and thumb (sorta) and the middle finger supporting it from the bottom. Watch some videos, they'll help. -
Date: Sat, Mar 24 2012 16:17:46
I'm getting better at this, but how long does it normally take people to get this down? Like without dropping it. I've been practicing it for 3 days so far and I get it like 3 out of 5 times.
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Date: Sat, Mar 24 2012 20:23:27
USA wrote: I'm getting better at this, but how long does it normally take people to get this down? Like without dropping it. I've been practicing it for 3 days so far and I get it like 3 out of 5 times.
took me a week or two weeks (don't remember) since I didn't really practice. Did it about 5 min each day or less. -
Date: Sun, Mar 25 2012 14:09:55
USA wrote: I'm getting better at this, but how long does it normally take people to get this down? Like without dropping it. I've been practicing it for 3 days so far and I get it like 3 out of 5 times.
Took me a day or two. You are almost there. -
Date: Sun, Mar 25 2012 17:21:53
Yeah, almost there. It took me a while, but no matter how much you practise, you will always get it wrong some of the time.
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Date: Wed, Mar 28 2012 16:53:50
PSMediocre wrote: Yeah, almost there. It took me a while, but no matter how much you practise, you will always get it wrong some of the time.
donot worry. just have self confidence. just keep your hand(wrist) and thumb stiff. you will get it ^_^ -
Date: Thu, Mar 29 2012 01:03:46
Imagine clicking your fingers. It's a similar motion to Thumbaround :D
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 06:02:22
Maybe you should not use too much force...
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Date: Sun, Apr 15 2012 19:44:21
i'm a noob so i got some questions.Can you push the pen with your index or middle finger when you do this. what do you do if the pen spins on your index finger when you grip it with your thumb in between your index and middle finger. also can you use your middle finger to get spin
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Date: Mon, Apr 16 2012 00:00:26
You can use middle or index to push (or any finger for that matter).
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Date: Wed, Apr 18 2012 00:29:24
Hey, I am having some trouble executing the Thumbaround consistently and was wondering if somebody could provide some tips. 1. I am unsure about the actual initial force of the middle finger - do you have to direct the pen down so that it wraps around the middle joint of your thumb? 2. What is the ideal angle of thumb to the floor to execute the Thumbaround? e.g. perpendicular to the ground 3. Is there a finger exercise which would help with keeping my thumb rigid? 4. How can it be indicated when you have "mastered" the trick? Thanks. Have a good day!
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Date: Wed, Apr 18 2012 02:42:09
Inspires wrote: Hey, I am having some trouble executing the Thumbaround consistently and was wondering if somebody could provide some tips. 1. I am unsure about the actual initial force of the middle finger - do you have to direct the pen down so that it wraps around the middle joint of your thumb? 2. What is the ideal angle of thumb to the floor to execute the Thumbaround? e.g. perpendicular to the ground 3. Is there a finger exercise which would help with keeping my thumb rigid? 4. How can it be indicated when you have "mastered" the trick? Thanks. Have a good day!
Hello! The way I usually describe it is to make a "snapping" motion. To demonstate what I mean, I recorded a short video for you here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wdUTi6kWcE&context=C46209e6ADvjVQa1PpcFPsqkwbYiU_ldvpiwRC_pB7JLntVapN6l8= The video shows the form, amount of force, and the angle I hold the pen at. Keeping your thumb rigid is actually largely a mental game. When you first start trying, your mind may be more concerned with catching the pen rather than letting it spin around. As such, you'll move your thumb to try to catch it. So, my advice is to both not be afraid of dropping it and to keep practicing. Not to sound jerk-ish, but you've mastered the trick when you don't drop it haha. -
Date: Wed, Apr 18 2012 04:19:20
Hi IAmTheMrGuy, You went beyond the call of duty for me, by providing that video, and I really appreciate that. Your video was very concise and right after watching it, something "clicked" in my head and I was able to do 10 successive Thumbarounds! Thank you so much.
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Date: Wed, Apr 18 2012 09:14:54
Inspires wrote: Hey, I am having some trouble executing the Thumbaround consistently and was wondering if somebody could provide some tips. 1. I am unsure about the actual initial force of the middle finger - do you have to direct the pen down so that it wraps around the middle joint of your thumb? 2. What is the ideal angle of thumb to the floor to execute the Thumbaround? e.g. perpendicular to the ground 3. Is there a finger exercise which would help with keeping my thumb rigid? 4. How can it be indicated when you have "mastered" the trick? Thanks. Have a good day!
You'd want to start a Thumbaround on the "top half" of the pen, so above the centre of the pen. (Towards the right side of the centre if you're right handed, towards left side of the centre is you're left handed). When I do thumbarounds, the pen is around 30 degrees to the floor, most beginners who can't pen spin do it parallel to the ground, but this is harder. Your thumb shouldn't have to "wrap" around, as I said before, the thumbaround is like snapping your fingers :P Keep practicing! Pen spinning is mostly about mentality, you'll have to keep telling yourself to keep your thumb still xD A trick is mastered when you can do it wherever and whenever you like and with any type of pen. However this definition isn't really fully correct. Because even some of the hardest tricks, even though professionals have "mastered" them, they can't really execute them all the time. But for the thumbaround, you should be able to do it whenever, and wherever ;) Good luck :D -
Date: Wed, Apr 18 2012 14:22:16
Inspires wrote: Hi IAmTheMrGuy, You went beyond the call of duty for me, by providing that video, and I really appreciate that. Your video was very concise and right after watching it, something "clicked" in my head and I was able to do 10 successive Thumbarounds! Thank you so much.
That's great! I'm glad to have helped! -
Date: Thu, Apr 19 2012 02:35:40
sometimes the pencil doesn't even spin on my thumb. how do i fix it.
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Date: Thu, Apr 26 2012 19:21:37
So apparently I've been pen spinning for about 2 years now without even knowing there were such a thing... I just did it as a way to chanell my impatient when I was bored or stressed. So about a week ago someone came up to me and asked me how far I had came in my Pen Spinning. After showing me some more advanced tricks to work on he gave me this website to go to if i wanted to learn more, and hell yaaa i wanna learn more! So anyway, here I am. I was watching the fundamental videos (wich i pretty much allredy learned my own way) but i was curious on the TA. I allways use my third finger to spin the pen arond my thumb. Is this wrong? Should i relearn to use my longfinger instead? Any help would be greatful!
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Date: Thu, Apr 26 2012 19:33:40
jojjebros wrote: So apparently I've been pen spinning for about 2 years now without even knowing there were such a thing... I just did it as a way to chanell my impatient when I was bored or stressed. So about a week ago someone came up to me and asked me how far I had came in my Pen Spinning. After showing me some more advanced tricks to work on he gave me this website to go to if i wanted to learn more, and hell yaaa i wanna learn more! So anyway, here I am. I was watching the fundamental videos (wich i pretty much allredy learned my own way) but i was curious on the TA. I allways use my third finger to spin the pen arond my thumb. Is this wrong? Should i relearn to use my longfinger instead? Any help would be greatful!
This should be in the fundamentals section. You are doing ta just fine. You probably should learn to do the ta while pushing with your other fingers as well. It is just good to know. At least you know it though. -
Date: Thu, Apr 26 2012 19:37:03
ok, can someone move it for me? well, i can actully do it with all of my finger ( and with nofingers aswell) but my standard finger is the third. the question is will this f**k up the smoothness of my moves in the future?
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Date: Thu, Apr 26 2012 19:37:13
This is a TA T3-T1, just another way of doing it. You should learn with other fingers also. EDIT: Oh, you can. It won't affect smoothness if you can do it equally well with all fingers.
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Date: Thu, Apr 26 2012 20:22:56
jojjebros wrote: ok, can someone move it for me? well, i can actully do it with all of my finger ( and with nofingers aswell) but my standard finger is the third. the question is will this f**k up the smoothness of my moves in the future?
Nope. Don't worry about it. ^_^ -
Date: Tue, May 1 2012 00:57:30
It's ok cause I do TA with only my index
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Date: Tue, May 1 2012 08:17:59
eduguy wrote: sometimes the pencil doesn't even spin on my thumb. how do i fix it.
Push the pencil with more than half facing towards you when Yu push the pencil, and push hard, then lighter and balance it out. You might want to put the pencil closer to your hand and further from the tip of your thumb if it flies away. -
Date: Fri, May 25 2012 13:39:20
practise makes perfect , nuff said .
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Date: Sat, May 26 2012 14:32:53
Kazuki wrote: practise makes perfect , nuff said .
Although not always true. -
Date: Sat, May 26 2012 14:40:48
@jojjebros Well you're something like me. I was doing thumbaround and some crappy passes for a whole year without knowing about pen spinning. I kind of just watched the fundamentals just in case I had gotten it wrong then progressed to other tricks. So yeah
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Date: Sun, May 27 2012 09:12:10
jojjebros wrote: So apparently I've been pen spinning for about 2 years now without even knowing there were such a thing... I just did it as a way to chanell my impatient when I was bored or stressed. So about a week ago someone came up to me and asked me how far I had came in my Pen Spinning. After showing me some more advanced tricks to work on he gave me this website to go to if i wanted to learn more, and hell yaaa i wanna learn more! So anyway, here I am. I was watching the fundamental videos (wich i pretty much allredy learned my own way) but i was curious on the TA. I allways use my third finger to spin the pen arond my thumb. Is this wrong? Should i relearn to use my longfinger instead? Any help would be greatful!
If your meant the Middle Finger, I think it is Normal. There is nothing wrong. But, it would be better to push the Pen with all your other Fingers too. It won't make your Combos looked "Jerky" or bad, but just keep practicing on the Linking of the Trick to your ThumbAround. That could improve Smoothness. -
Date: Wed, Jul 18 2012 20:06:48
Im having trouble with this trick. When I do it, it doesnt slide on my thumb like the videos, but rather lifts up and flies away. Is it supposed to be in contact with your thumb the whole time?
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Date: Wed, Jul 18 2012 20:13:49
Yeah, it goes around the thumb, not spin on top.
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Date: Fri, Jul 27 2012 14:16:40
I think I've accidentally made a variation of the thumbaround, it incorporates the first half of the shadow motion followed by a very quick thumbaround. I was just wondering if this is already a known trick? (ps- i think this comment goes in this forum, not sure)
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Date: Sat, Jul 28 2012 00:52:19
@Joemeister i think its ok to ask on this thread, but a better place would be here: http://forum.upsb.info/showthread.php?t=25 as for your question, if you release like a shadow and do a ta immediately, it probably is either shadow 0.5 12-tf~fl ta or a shadow 1.0 12-tf~fl ta.
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Date: Sun, Jul 29 2012 11:02:34
@Kyoflow Ok thanks for the help :P by the way i got the reverse ta down, i can do it every time!
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Date: Sat, Aug 25 2012 08:03:49
I keep trying to get a thumb around down but the pen wont go around and it wont spin fast enough ive tryed My Middle finger and index it just feels weird any tips?
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Date: Sat, Aug 25 2012 09:16:23
Try to push the pen up on your thumb. When it's on your thumb the pen will fall between your Thumb and index and the only thing you must do is to catch it.
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Date: Sat, Aug 25 2012 09:37:08
How about try to push it harder and perhaps make your thumb stay still,so it have something go around.
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Date: Sat, Aug 25 2012 16:58:55
Pens wrote: I keep trying to get a thumb around down but the pen wont go around and it wont spin fast enough ive tryed My Middle finger and index it just feels weird any tips?
This is natural. You have to keep trying to push the pen, figuring out the correct amount of force needed to make the pen go around your Thumb, get used to the force and learn how to catch it. You have to keep practicing ThumbAround. One day you will be able to do a correct one. Next, get used to it so you could master it more easily. Lastly, the pen will end up in between your Index Finger and Thumb, near your ThumbFlap. You have to keep practicing till you get the catching down and you are good to go. -
Date: Sat, Aug 25 2012 22:06:40
make sure you're started at the right spot and after that it's just practice
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Date: Sun, Aug 26 2012 08:39:09
Go youtube.
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Date: Sun, Aug 26 2012 10:39:09
its not bout the speed of the pen but about how the pen rotates around ur thumb. try to keep ur thumb straight and do not let it bend down or else it will just spin on ur thumb and not around it. and PRACTICE.
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Date: Sun, Sep 2 2012 06:47:57
Every time I do it, the pen flies off. I think it is because I keep bending my thumb, or Im not pushing a the right spot. Anyway to stop this? Any help will be nice! (Im new to the forums)
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Date: Sun, Sep 2 2012 07:05:55
Try to not move your thumb and practice.
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Date: Sun, Sep 2 2012 11:20:28
Anyway, if you are spinning with your right hand then keep your middle finger just a little to the right of the center.
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Date: Mon, Sep 3 2012 03:11:57
just practice you'll figure it out
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Date: Mon, Sep 3 2012 11:46:39
i think try to keep your thumb stay still and maybe don't push it too hard,so it won't fly off
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Date: Mon, Sep 3 2012 13:47:08
just practice and plenty of time.:)
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Date: Mon, Sep 3 2012 13:48:06
Mainly just lot of practice and bear in mind that your thumb has to stay still for the pen to go around it.
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Date: Wed, Sep 5 2012 14:10:22
try a fingerless ta i got that before my actual ta
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Date: Fri, Sep 14 2012 01:54:18
When i did it the problem was i was on the wrong side use the Right side if your left handed and the left side if your right handed it works very good!
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Date: Mon, Sep 24 2012 23:51:45
Some people might know these but its for people who dont. If you are left handed use the left side of the pen If you are right handed use the right side. I know its common sense but it helps.
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Date: Tue, Sep 25 2012 00:56:50
http://forum.upsb.info/showthread.php?t=12518 http://forum.upsb.info/showthread.php?t=12427 you already started a thumbaround thread... http://forum.upsb.info/showthread.php?t=11 this would have been the best place to post Point being, you didnt need to make a new thread...
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Date: Tue, Sep 25 2012 01:07:41
@Rees, you beat me to it. I was going to post the thumb around thread here. Nicely played. :p
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Date: Tue, Sep 25 2012 13:15:44
Pens, seeing that you are a new member, I understand. Make sure you Search before Posting next time.
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Date: Fri, Sep 28 2012 11:14:22
It's being silly question that has been posted over here. It does not make any sense. What if you were writing by both the hands. Anyways the thing is there should be some other question that should be posted over here.
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Date: Wed, Oct 3 2012 22:47:59
I am a beginner. So whenever I try this trick, it swings around my middle finger and I catch it. Help please?
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Date: Thu, Oct 4 2012 00:01:38
How about this.while in ta position,try to put your thumb up and slightly push your pen like you're really intend to make it go around your thumb or you could try to use your other hand to help first or when it about to swing around your middle finger you could replace it with your thumb or you could try to end your middle finger(after spin) close to your thumb as much as possible or try to spin it with different fingers,like spin it with your index finger??(i actually start learning thumbaround with index finger cause i don't know that it usually start with the middle one) I hope it could help you a bit:)
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Date: Sat, Oct 13 2012 15:19:24
I didn't mean to bend my finger on purpose, it just keeps on spinning onto my thumb no matter how hard i try to keep it straight... Here is how i did it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa2K_TawbNU&feature=g-upl
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Date: Tue, Oct 30 2012 00:59:49
My advice is to keep the thumb still and push with your middle finger. You have to have patience. Try to resist moving your whole hand
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Date: Sat, Nov 3 2012 23:04:41
Try to push it out of yr fingers with yr thumb.make sure yr fourth finger goes down.then the pen turns around yr thumb at the back.catch it with yr thumb,index and middle finger.Hope this helps.
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Date: Sun, Nov 4 2012 12:02:00
I push the pen with my index finger.it might be harder for you but just true it. It May be easier. And don't give up.
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Date: Fri, Nov 23 2012 01:58:16
knightling29 wrote: its not bout the speed of the pen but about how the pen rotates around ur thumb. try to keep ur thumb straight and do not let it bend down or else it will just spin on ur thumb and not around it. and PRACTICE.
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Date: Sat, Nov 24 2012 23:15:33
try learning how to snap. It's almost the same motion. That's how i learned. Also try holding the pen more towards the back. Not all the way but like 3/4's of the way. hope this helps! ^^,
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Date: Sun, Nov 25 2012 01:44:17
Just do it slowly at first, and PRACTICE. Keep doing it, just around and around and around and eventually it will become second nature. :thumb:
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Date: Sun, Nov 25 2012 17:35:06
Hold the pen with your middle finger on the COP and your index finger about an inch further up the pen then your middle finger. As said before, just keep practicing and you'll get it. Personally took me a week to learn. If you need anymore help just check out KTrinh93's TA tutorial on youtube. http://youtu.be/FwIZoVNIUJE
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Date: Wed, Dec 5 2012 10:36:19
Icetail wrote: I am a beginner. So whenever I try this trick, it swings around my middle finger and I catch it. Help please?
put your 2(middle finger) in the cop(center of pen) and 1(index finger) near the end(but not that far, its like your making peace sign w/ your finger..) and put your thumb in front of the index while holding pen, push with the middle finger,.. remember to keep your thumb up not literally, just the half of it... when you push the pen with the middle finger, put your index away for the pen to do an around, and when it already done a revolution around your thumb and simply catch it with your index and thumb... do not move your thumb.. hope it helps.. -
Date: Wed, Dec 5 2012 17:06:29
cleung0223 wrote: I didn't mean to bend my finger on purpose, it just keeps on spinning onto my thumb no matter how hard i try to keep it straight... Here is how i did it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa2K_TawbNU&feature=g-upl
Well, you're doing it right. :D A little advice though. Try not to start your thumb around in the middle of the pen. Obviously you can do it and it works for you but it will be easier to learn when being at one end of the pen. -
Date: Tue, Mar 5 2013 01:08:11
Vennaol wrote: Push the pencil with more than half facing towards you when Yu push the pencil, and push hard, then lighter and balance it out. You might want to put the pencil closer to your hand and further from the tip of your thumb if it flies away.
It doesn't go over my thumb. It flies to the left. I am right handed. I think I just cannot do thumbaround. -
Date: Tue, Mar 5 2013 01:11:45
Nonsense! :) I'm sure you can do it. Remember to focus on keeping your thumb still, and don't use so much force! The pen should fall straight out of your hand before it flies in any direction :p
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Date: Tue, Mar 5 2013 01:42:56
shoeman6 wrote: Nonsense! :) I'm sure you can do it. Remember to focus on keeping your thumb still, and don't use so much force! The pen should fall straight out of your hand before it flies in any direction :p
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Date: Tue, Mar 5 2013 02:11:37
Actually just made a tutorial, a couple slow motions in it [video=youtube;vcHT-YjBKZY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcHT-YjBKZY[/video] Hope it helps!
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Date: Tue, Mar 5 2013 02:23:51
shoeman6 wrote: Actually just made a tutorial, a couple slow motions in it [video=youtube;vcHT-YjBKZY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcHT-YjBKZY[/video] Hope it helps!
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Date: Tue, Mar 5 2013 04:05:14
So I watched the tutorial and tried it out and I noticed that my middle finger never goes all the way down. My thumb jams against it and the middle finger is half on top of my ring finger. I guess this is why the thumbaround isn't working. Will this affect the thumbaround? How do I fix this? :unsure:
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Date: Tue, Mar 5 2013 05:31:53
I'm not sure I understand the problem. are you crossing your middle and ring finger? If you can't physically hold the pen between your thumb index and middle finger you should still be able to do a thumb around if you use both your ring and middle finger to push.
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Date: Tue, Mar 5 2013 16:07:59
shoeman6 wrote: I'm not sure I understand the problem. are you crossing your middle and ring finger? If you can't physically hold the pen between your thumb index and middle finger you should still be able to do a thumb around if you use both your ring and middle finger to push.
After I try the thumbaround my middle finger is crossed over my ring finger. How do I record a video and upload it here? When I do the thumbaround do I bring my middle finger all the way down or do I keep it up? -
Date: Tue, Mar 5 2013 16:33:10
Its okay if your middle finger is touching / slightly overlapping your middle finger. Your INDEX finger is what's really stopping the pen. Your middle finger should only have to move about .5 of an inch for the push. I'm not sure what you been by bringing the middlefinger down or up, your middle finger is just curling in for the push. You can choose to keep it curled in or bring it out again, it's up to you. You might be over thinking the actual trick. Watch the video again and pay attention to the position of the fingers. Most people upload a video on youtube and use this code
[CODE] [video ]test[ /video][/CODE]
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Date: Tue, Mar 5 2013 16:34:19
Okay thanks I tried and I landed one thumbaround :) Usually it goes flying up and lands on my hand. Does that count?
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Date: Tue, Mar 5 2013 16:41:48
As long as it goes around your thumb. Keep practicing it and you'll get more control.
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Date: Wed, Mar 6 2013 00:03:08
Question 1)No matter how much I try it always starts to hit my index finger. Question 2) Sometimes it will spin on my thumb than fall into my hands. Question 3) Do I hold it with my index finger on the pen or off the pen?
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Date: Wed, Mar 6 2013 04:00:43
1. Try putting your index finger on the tip of the pen (top). And pushing like you would normally, this should let your index finger be out of the way of the rotation until it closes back in (stopping the pen). 2. This is normal, when you get better at it you'll also be able to control the spin more. 3. On or off are both okay! If you're having trouble with the pen hitting the index finger feel free to take it off completely, it just provides stability so you don't drop the pen while getting ready to push :)
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Date: Wed, Mar 6 2013 04:09:56
Will having the index finger off affect the thumbaround?
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Date: Wed, Mar 6 2013 04:22:50
No, but it might be more difficult to push if you aren't used to holding the pen with 2 fingers :). You need to lift the index finger from the pen when you do a thumb around anyways, so you're just doing it ahead of time.
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Date: Wed, Mar 6 2013 04:37:23
Okay thank you. I will ask if I have more questions. :)
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Date: Wed, Mar 6 2013 16:37:34
I have succesfully done a few thumbarounds now. :)
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Date: Wed, Mar 6 2013 17:20:07
I have another question. Sometimes I can't catch it fast enough and it falls between my thumb and index finger.
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Date: Wed, Mar 6 2013 18:42:08
Again, just practice :). Getting the motion down is more important than the catch. It'll be easier to do it properly the more you do it.
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Date: Wed, Mar 6 2013 19:02:01
shoeman6 wrote: Again, just practice :). Getting the motion down is more important than the catch. It'll be easier to do it properly the more you do it.
Okay. I have landed more thumbarounds but it usually doesn't spin on my thumb but I guess eventually I can keep it spinning on my thumb. -
Date: Thu, Mar 7 2013 16:09:52
I just noticed that I usually catch the pen too early. It hasn't gone full rotation yet and I catch it. Is this okay? I usually catch the pen when it is in between my thumb and index finger instead of when it has done a full rotation.
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Date: Thu, Mar 7 2013 19:02:16
Does it go around your thumb or just kind of on top of it? Make sure it's going around.
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Date: Thu, Mar 7 2013 23:11:15
Usually kind of on top...
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Date: Thu, Mar 7 2013 23:20:18
If you can film a video please do that way I can provide you more specific advice :) You can do a thumb around "correctly" even if it spins mostly on top. Tell me does the pen do a full 360 rotation? the tip should be facing the same way when you catch it.
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Date: Thu, Mar 7 2013 23:36:29
shoeman6 wrote: If you can film a video please do that way I can provide you more specific advice :) You can do a thumb around "correctly" even if it spins mostly on top. Tell me does the pen do a full 360 rotation? the tip should be facing the same way when you catch it.
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Date: Thu, Mar 7 2013 23:38:59
Then you're doing it wrong.
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Date: Thu, Mar 7 2013 23:43:33
That's not good... What should I do to correct it?
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Date: Thu, Mar 7 2013 23:44:53
Keep thumb still and try to make the pen spin more perpindicular ( a right angle) to your thumb.
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Date: Thu, Mar 7 2013 23:46:27
Sorry I don't know what you mean by perpindicular to my thumb. Maybe I'm just catching it too early?
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Date: Thu, Mar 7 2013 23:52:16
It should be impossiblet o catch half way because the pen should be on the other side of your thumb. Unless you wrap your fingers over your thumb it's a matter of not actually understanding the trick/ Or maybe I'm not understanding what you're doing wrong. A video would be the best way around. :)
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Date: Thu, Mar 7 2013 23:59:31
Sometimes I catch it in between my thumb and index finger and the pen is pointing straight away from me. Is that a better description?
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Date: Fri, Mar 8 2013 00:05:42
Sounds like you might be moving your thumb and the pen isn't making it all the way around.
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Date: Fri, Mar 8 2013 00:07:34
So I should just focus on not moving my thumb? In your thumbaround tutorial around 7 seconds is when I catch the pen normally when it is in between my index and thumb.
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Date: Fri, Mar 8 2013 00:09:45
From what I can tell! If you have the ability to film it I could be more specific :')
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Date: Fri, Mar 8 2013 00:14:06
Okay I will focus on still thumb and making sure I catch when it has done a full (or almost full) rotation. Edit: I think the reason why it stops so early is that when I push too hard it goes flying so I push lightly but than it falls into the "crevice" between my thumb and index finger. Maybe it isn't moving fast enough to actually do a full rotation?<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< I also noticed that maybe since it hits my index finger it is slowing it down which leads to the same question as above. ^
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Date: Fri, Mar 8 2013 01:20:34
^help above?
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Date: Fri, Mar 8 2013 15:36:09
Sorry for posting so many times in a row. Question: Does the need a full rotation or close to a full rotation?
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Date: Fri, Mar 8 2013 15:38:45
I'm trying to get this trick down, but I can't keep my thumb up straight, and it turns into a thumbspin. Also, if I try to keep it straight, it bounces off my other fingers and such, and I can't manage it. Any tips?
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Date: Fri, Mar 8 2013 22:58:24
Neph wrote: I'm trying to get this trick down, but I can't keep my thumb up straight, and it turns into a thumbspin. Also, if I try to keep it straight, it bounces off my other fingers and such, and I can't manage it. Any tips?
Keep the thumb straight, but don't stretch it so much. Refrain from bending the thumb. Also, it shouldn't bounce off your other fingers. The pen should just go around the thumb. Try to get the motion and keep practicing. Once you get the right amount of force, you'll be able to do it. @eduguy it's a full rotation. the point of the pen should end up facing where it began. -
Date: Fri, Mar 8 2013 23:51:54
Exactly full rotation or close? I've seen tutorials and sometimes the pen doesn't do full but almost full rotation.
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Date: Fri, Mar 8 2013 23:55:22
dont try to think of it as exact or not it should be going around 360 degrees, It should be close to exact, but when you are learning nothing is perfect :)
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Date: Sat, Mar 9 2013 00:01:37
Okay thanks :) Just don't want bad habits of not full rotations. I do better with a pencil than with a real pen or a balanced pencil crayon. Maybe it's the extra momentum from the extra weight on one side.
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Date: Sat, Mar 9 2013 00:24:06
I always reccomend new spinners start with an unsharpened pencil. Spins better than most of the mods I own :p.
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Date: Sat, Mar 9 2013 00:26:34
What knuckle on the thumb should it usually rotate around?
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Date: Sat, Mar 9 2013 00:38:18
shoeman6 wrote: I always reccomend new spinners start with an unsharpened pencil. Spins better than most of the mods I own :p.
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Date: Sat, Mar 9 2013 19:23:59
Please help with above ^
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Date: Sat, Mar 9 2013 22:33:48
Anywhere really, it should be easiest at about the first knucle - tip
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Date: Sat, Mar 9 2013 23:30:29
Okay thank you. How consistently should I be able to do thumbaround before I start learning a new trick?
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Date: Sat, Mar 9 2013 23:56:03
Doesn't matter learn whatever the hell you want hahah. Just keep practicing the stuff you want to get down.
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Date: Sun, Mar 10 2013 02:36:11
Okay. I am getting better. :)
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Date: Mon, Mar 11 2013 00:01:40
GreenTomato wrote: Whenever I try the thumbaround, my pencil always goes around my thumb and hits my index finger. Any ideas on how I can fix this? Whenever I bring my index finger below the pencil, it causes it to be off-balanced. Sorry if this has been asked, but i'm new to forums and have no idea how to find answers to questions that have already been asked.
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Date: Mon, Mar 11 2013 03:57:47
@Neph : i think a good way to learn/practice the thumbaround is w/o the pen. u can do a sort of exercise in which u pretend to do a thumbaround by holding up ur 3 fingers as if to do the trick, and move the middle finger forwards and index backwards simultaneously while keeping the thumb straight (imitating a thumbaround). This will increase ur natural ability to spin w/o the pen hitting the other fingers when going around the thumb.
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Date: Tue, Mar 12 2013 00:31:22
Okay thank you. After lots of practice I am landing more thumbarounds. :) Soon I might learn the charge.
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Date: Mon, Mar 18 2013 12:49:06
People having trouble try doing this. hold the pen (or pencil) with only your middle and thumband keep your index outstretched. now slide your thumb to the right (if right handed) and vice versa.
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Date: Sat, Mar 30 2013 23:38:24
Make your index finger straight when performing the Thumb Around.
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Date: Tue, Apr 23 2013 20:24:20
Whenever i try this i can only spin it 180 not 360 and if i manage to get it all the way i either cant catch it or it flys off i use a Rsvp stock can someone help me
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Date: Wed, Apr 24 2013 00:06:12
try spin harder when it spin only 180 but not too hard cause it'll fly off.. practice a lot and you'll know how hard do you have to spin^_^
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Date: Thu, Apr 25 2013 03:30:20
http://www.youtube.com/user/Lackadaysicals My channel can help teach beginners in pen spinning. Any questions just ask
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Date: Thu, Apr 25 2013 15:40:51
Homeyg10 wrote: Whenever i try this i can only spin it 180 not 360 and if i manage to get it all the way i either cant catch it or it flys off i use a Rsvp stock can someone help me
Ok I know this is weird,and I don't know if you guys will be able to help but imma tell you anyway This is what's happening I have the basic motion of the TA down but I when I go to spin it around its kinda like my hand locks up and I get this weird feeling all over and I just can't seem to spin it it's like my body hates pen spinning or something but anyway I didn't know if some of you guys were having the same prob -
Date: Fri, Apr 26 2013 00:30:10
Maybe you just have to get some relax.. or give it some time and practice.. just maybe...
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Date: Sun, May 5 2013 20:52:10
I have a problem with the thumbaround. I get the push and all but I cant catch it. Im not gonna be that vague because there are millions of reasons for that to happen. I looked at what i did and found out that my thumb just couldn't keep still for the pen to spin around it. I always have problems doing tricks where things like this is needed, and i dont know how to help it. Any advice?
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Date: Sun, May 5 2013 21:37:47
try practicing the movement without the pen until u can do it w/o moving ur thumb. it worked for me when i learned this trick
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Date: Mon, May 6 2013 12:11:37
MZ476 wrote: when i try this trick it just flies off somewhere or goes over my thumb how could i fix that
you use a lot of force. try with less force and less hand movement. its more of a finger trick. -
Date: Mon, May 6 2013 12:14:21
Sk1ttzar wrote: i find it weird how this is the hardest fundamental trick for me =/
Try doing palmup. they are really different.since you dont know sonic i consider you beginner. so it might helpyou doing it palm up. -
Date: Wed, May 8 2013 19:21:57
Yes, i finally did it. Some tips: - I don't know if its already been said but to keep your thumb up, do a motion like your just snapping your middle finger with your thumb. - It helped that i made sure the pen was a good distance under the tip of my middle finger/ thumb before i started the trick. - Instead of using a thin and light pen ( such as bictory mod ), i just used a RSVP v1 and it was much easier doing the trick and catching it. good luck!
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Date: Sat, Jun 22 2013 01:54:06
Ok. Guys, I can finally do this! Yeah! After 1700 tries. :( I could have learned sooner, but I realized several mistakes. Here are some tips that will shortcut your progress and help you learn faster than me. - Pay attention to the positioning of your palm. Your palm should be almost totally vertical. I made the mistake of my palm being almost horizonal. It should be just like the position it is in when you do a thumbs up. If you don't understand, watch some videos showing the hand at different angles while doing the thumbaround. I didn't catch this at first, I think because of the camera angle, but after watching a few more videos, I understood. If the position of the palm is wrong, it's impossible to do it successfully. - Only your middle finger should move. Your palm, your thumb, and your second finger should remain almost motionless during the starting up push of the pen. I made a big mistake while practicing that I just realized. Somehow, every time my third finger pushed the pen, my hold hand jerked backwards with it. And the pen went flying. So only use your middle finger to push the pen. Let all the other parts of your hand be still. - You don't have to push the pen too hard with your middle finger. If it's too hard, the pen will fly off I think. Just enough pressure to make it spin around your thumb. You need some practice to get the amount of pressure just right. - Your thumb should be almost flat or horizontal throughout the motion. If your thumb is vertical or lifted too high, the pen will fly off. - It's a ton easier if you're starting out to use a long pen or pencil. However, I don't have one. So I just used a short pen. But you can still learn it well. Just that it'll take more time. - The starting position of the pen and the ending position of the pen should be the same. This means the pen spun 360 degrees. If the pen ends on the opposite end of the starting point, that means you only spun it 180 degrees. Probably your palm position is wrong and you can only catch it that way. I made this mistake at first. Make sure your palm is vertical. - Watch this video. It helped me a lot: http://www.pens.co.uk/news/pen-spinning/promotional-pen-spinning-2.php I like the camera angle. It captures the hand position well. - Don't keep practicing blindly. I made this mistake, or else I could have learned sooner. Practice for about 100 to 200 times. If you're getting it, that's good. If you're not getting it, go back to some videos, and carefully observe the position of the hands when they're doing the thumbaround. Compare it to how you're positioning your hands. - Because the thumbaround only requires the push of your middle finger, it's not that complicated. You will get it right very easily as long as your hand is held in the right position. After that, all you need to do is to push your middle finger. Correct me if I noted any wrong points. :) Yeah! Finally! I learned the thumbaround. Now I need to keep practicing to get it perfect. Let me know if you have any questions.
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Date: Tue, Aug 27 2013 12:17:14
I've been trying to do the Thumbaround Reverse, and I just realised that when I do the Thumbaround (normal) that I actually only use my index finger to push, which means I can basically spin my pencil with only 2 fingers.... But i don't think that really works when I'm trying to do other tricks... correct me if I'm wrong. So does that mean I have to try to use three of my fingers instead of two??? I mean how does that even work??
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Date: Tue, Aug 27 2013 13:49:20
Hi nocturnalsilverwolf, you can pm me if you have qny questions. ~zelphus
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Date: Tue, Aug 27 2013 16:52:19
:D
NocturnalSilverWolf wrote: I've been trying to do the Thumbaround Reverse, and I just realised that when I do the Thumbaround (normal) that I actually only use my index finger to push, which means I can basically spin my pencil with only 2 fingers.... But i don't think that really works when I'm trying to do other tricks... correct me if I'm wrong. So does that mean I have to try to use three of my fingers instead of two??? I mean how does that even work??
Ok well first off, I don't understand what you are saying, but I will try to answer your concern. Correct me.if i am wrong, you are saying that you do the ThumbAround(Normal) with your index finger? In that case it is still considered a ThumbAround. However the regular ThumbAround is using the middle finger for the push, since you use your middle finger your index finger is free. Therefore, you are able to do the reverse and normal harmonically. And yes it is possible to do other tricks and do the Thumbaround with only 2 fingers. But I don't suggest that unless you have mastered the ThumbAround. If you have kudos to you. Hope this helps:) Good Luck and Happy Spinning. Regards, Zen -
Date: Mon, Feb 3 2014 21:22:22
Just learned this one. Been trying for 2 days, and I got it. My tips are: - If you're like me, you'll move your thumb in the first tries. This was one of my big flaws. Try to keep it as steady as possible. - Depending on the pen, I try to put almost all the weight on the other side, it was easier for me. Anything else, ask :)
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Date: Sat, Mar 15 2014 17:31:36
Ok so I don't really need help with the actual thumb around, but whenever I do it my thumb bends in so it is bent at the joint, this makes it hard to do ta to air cont. and fl ta cont. any tips please? I think this is because I'm too used to doing thumb spins too much:(
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Date: Thu, Mar 27 2014 08:30:34
Thumbaround is veryy easy!! follow these steps:- assumptions: Let us take a pen whose length is 20 cm and the spinner is right handed step 1: Hold the pen such that 16 cm is on the left side of the thumb and rest is on right. 2. Place your index and middle behind the pen with 1.5cm space between them. 3. Place your thumb between them on the front of pen. remember: index finger has no use right now. Its only use is to catch. 4. Now take index away and press the pen by the middle from the left of thumb. 5. Keep your thumb still. 6. Pen will now go round your thumb. 7. Be ready to catch the pen by your index and voila!! You're done!
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Date: Thu, Mar 27 2014 13:34:20
Try to hold your thumb up. like keep in mind that my thumb gonna stay up:D! hope this help.
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Date: Thu, May 29 2014 20:15:30
So I need some help linking to the thumbaround. I'm trying to link a twisted sonic to thumbaround, but getting my middle finger up takes too long. I also can't really do the thumbaround consistently with my index as I keep missing the catch. Thanks in advance.
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Date: Thu, May 29 2014 22:37:04
Crisk wrote: So I need some help linking to the thumbaround. I'm trying to link a twisted sonic to thumbaround, but getting my middle finger up takes too long. I also can't really do the thumbaround consistently with my index as I keep missing the catch. Thanks in advance.
I see what you mean here. If you don't know how to do the thumbaround push with your index finger it is harder to do this linkage. Here is what i suggest, fully master the thumbaround so you can do it using all of your fingers. This not only helps with this linkage but also it gives you a better range of links you can do. Now there is a easy linkage for you. But it doesn't require the Twisted Sonic Ideally the best way to link [B]to[/B] a Thumbaround, is simply to do the reverse. Thumbaround Reverse to Thumbaround. This of course means you have to know the thumbaround reverse. If you don't know then it would be best if you learned it. After the thumbaround you can proceed to Thumbaround Double or even Fake Double, then proceeding to Sonic. If this is confusing then you can ignore this. For now stick to thumbaround reverse to thumbaround. And if you are feeling bold, go for the Twisted Sonic to Thumbaround if you can. Ask me any questions, Any time! Regards Zen -
Date: Thu, May 29 2014 23:26:21
I can do the index thumbaround, just not very consistently after a Twisted Sonic, my thumb for some reason wants to go to the right and the pen goes flying.
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Date: Thu, May 29 2014 23:41:41
Crisk wrote: I can do the index thumbaround, just not very consistently after a Twisted Sonic, my thumb for some reason wants to go to the right and the pen goes flying.
Then the problem is just practice. You need to get the linkage down. If it goes flying try, slowing the motion and guide it with your fingers. Your thumb is in a state where it only know to go right, it could be a reaction of sorts. You need to retrain it to go left. Did you per chance break your hand or arm at one point in your life? -
Date: Fri, May 30 2014 00:24:06
I only shifts to the right whenever I'm trying to link the thumbaround to the warped sonic. Otherwise I'm fine.
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Date: Fri, May 30 2014 00:44:45
Do it slower
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Date: Fri, May 30 2014 01:39:40
@Crisk: I'm not sure if this will help, but start the Twisted Sonic with a lot of weight, about 80%, towards you (palm down).
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Date: Fri, May 30 2014 01:44:14
Shadower wrote: @Crisk: I'm not sure if this will help, but start the Twisted Sonic with a lot of weight, about 80%, towards you (palm down).
What do you mean by a lot of weight? A heavy mod? -
Date: Fri, May 30 2014 19:13:12
Zen wrote: What do you mean by a lot of weight? A heavy mod?
As in most of the weight on that side. -
Date: Fri, Jun 20 2014 03:39:23
Can someone please explain how i can solve this problem when Im trying to do thumbaround my thumb just goes below the pen and let the pen pass which would cause the pen to fall off
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Date: Fri, Jun 20 2014 04:02:47
I don't fully understand your wording, but your problem seems to be that instead of spinning around your thumb, the pen may be rotating on top of your thumb instead... Correct? (Possibly Thumbspin? heh) Try to get the pen to go around near the base of your thumb, as opposed to spinning on top of the knuckle. Ideally, your middle finger is the only one doing the pushing while your thumb doesn't move (it may move slightly to the left as you push, but not while it's going around). Of course, if this is like your first trick, don't expect to get it in the first try or something. :P It'll take time, but eventually, it's second nature to perform Thumbarounds.
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Date: Fri, Jun 20 2014 05:10:32
AnAsianBrony wrote: I don't fully understand your wording, but your problem seems to be that instead of spinning around your thumb, the pen may be rotating on top of your thumb instead... Correct? (Possibly Thumbspin? heh) Try to get the pen to go around near the base of your thumb, as opposed to spinning on top of the knuckle. Ideally, your middle finger is the only one doing the pushing while your thumb doesn't move (it may move slightly to the left as you push, but not while it's going around). Of course, if this is like your first trick, don't expect to get it in the first try or something. :P It'll take time, but eventually, it's second nature to perform Thumbarounds.
thx for your reply! sorry for my english though. ill keep trying!:D Sent from my GT-I9506 using Tapatalk -
Date: Sat, Jun 21 2014 00:31:36
Btw is it normal if ive learnt charge and sonic but still cant get thumbaround? Sent from my GT-I9506 using Tapatalk
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Date: Sat, Jun 21 2014 04:52:53
@daahboy It's not uncommon if that's what you mean. Most people find Thumbaround the easiest to learn, but I as well had one heck of a time learning Thumbaround with a short and unbalanced pencil... In short, it's normal enough so just keep at it. ;)
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Date: Sun, Jul 13 2014 19:44:27
check out my tutorial
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Date: Sun, Jul 20 2014 17:32:38
That's a really good tutorial @AfroSquared You should do more. :) mpc