UPSB v4
Linkages & Combos / Theoretical Tricks/Hybrids/MiniCombos/Linkages
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Date: Sat, Apr 28 2012 00:25:27
[B]A Forenote[/B] A theoretical trick/hybrid/minicombo/linkage is one that has not been caught on camera yet and is only an idea to show off, in the hopes that one day they might be able to perform it and to see if any more advanced spinners can see how feasible it is. The idea of this thread is to help come up with more imaginative ideas that broaden pen spinning, by removing the restriction for creativity by pen spinning skill, thus allowing new ideas to be formed. Moderators, please move/lock/delete this thread as you see appropriate. Guidelines: [LIST=1] [*]Be imaginative with your ideas. [*]Avoid simply explaining extremely hard continuous power linkages [*]Look to creative spinners like Fratleym, Freeman, Hippo and Fel2Fram for inspiration [*]Don't worry about how difficult your trick sounds; peem's finishers were once thought to be impossible. [/LIST] To start: [SPOILER="Double Cobra Bite"] Description:
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[*]Starting like a cobra bite, the pen goes fully around all the fingers, but not over the thumb to the top of the hand again, where a fingerless twisted cobra bite is performed.
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[*]7/10, I have been able to land this tricka few times, but it is tricky to handle.
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[*]Swivel Reverse 12-P1234 ~ FL PinkyRingMiddleIndexAround P1234-12 0.5 ~ FL Swivel reverse 12-P1234
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[*]The pen is not caught after being initially released until the final cobra "bite"
[*]It is instead manipulated in mid air with fingerless arounds by moving the entire hand.
[*]The pen should slide over the top of the hand like a normal cobra bite after the PinkyRingMiddleIndexAround
[*]The final cobra bite is said to be "Fingerless", despite a twisted cobra bite being fingerless anyway. This is due to the fact that the pen is not 'released'.
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Date: Sat, Apr 28 2012 00:30:42
PD palmspin Description: Just do a palmspin, but PD.... Difficulty: 8/10 I haven't tried to get this, but I assume it is pretty hard. Possible Breakdown TA>Palmspin PD Extra Notes: If this has been attempted/done before, please post a link or something.
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Date: Sat, Apr 28 2012 00:45:28
[SPOILER="Mirrored Ayatori Trick"] Description:
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[*]A TA reverse is performed, followed by a handaround to a grab. Finally, a reverse aerial shadow is performed with a throw.
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[*]6/10, I have been able to perform one, albeit sketchy. The mirrored handaround is confusing.
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[*]Mirrored Ext TA T1-34 ~ Ayatori Grab P1234 -> Mirrored Ayatori Throw P1234-12
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[*]Mirrored extended TAs are extremely difficult and confusing to perform
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Date: Sat, Apr 28 2012 01:34:40
lol oki this isnt a helpful post more of a question post but cant we just post a vid and shadow the movements if the trick is well where you go wtf? but you can do it everytime and you know how to explain it too??
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Date: Sat, Apr 28 2012 01:37:36
flaming oracle wrote: lol oki this isnt a helpful post more of a question post but cant we just post a vid and shadow the movements if the trick is well where you go wtf? but you can do it everytime and you know how to explain it too??
Of course. -
Date: Sat, Apr 28 2012 01:46:24
eurocracy wrote: Of course.
XD time to film -
Date: Sat, Apr 28 2012 01:55:34
Fuse wrote: PD palmspin Description: Just do a palmspin, but PD.... Difficulty: 8/10 I haven't tried to get this, but I assume it is pretty hard. Possible Breakdown TA>Palmspin PD Extra Notes: If this has been attempted/done before, please post a link or something.
@i.suk can easily do this. -
Date: Sat, Apr 28 2012 01:58:20
I don't doubt that Chobi. @i.suk video?
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Date: Sat, Apr 28 2012 02:40:32
never has a PD PalmspinPeem been performed on screen ... I thought it was totally gravity-defying and thus, impossible ...
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Date: Sat, Apr 28 2012 02:50:35
What if you started it like an Inverse Hai Tua?
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Date: Sat, Apr 28 2012 02:59:18
not how it's started, but how it can be kept on the palm upside down .... Of course, w/o any strings or magnets etc...
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Date: Sat, Apr 28 2012 03:21:19
That's my point. Maybe if you jumped off of a roof while doing it...
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Date: Sat, Apr 28 2012 04:09:33
Fuse wrote: That's my point. Maybe if you jumped off of a roof while doing it...
Haha true... Or you could do it like a PD thumbaround -
Date: Sat, Apr 28 2012 05:09:12
i've done pd (around ~ palmspin 0.5 ~ fl around) for thumb, index, and middle, so it is possible, execution is crap though
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Date: Sat, Apr 28 2012 12:14:26
how bout finger tutting + pen spinning not a trick,but more of a concept
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Date: Sat, Apr 28 2012 13:24:08
Walkaz9/3 wrote: how bout finger tutting + pen spinning not a trick,but more of a concept
Could work, like how Snow used the Figure Eight from freehand glowsticking for his Sunflower Trick -
Date: Sat, Apr 28 2012 13:27:02
I want to know about i.suk's execution for PD Palmspin.i.suk, can u tell us?
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Date: Fri, May 11 2012 11:59:15
Reverse Rex trick Description ========= >>It is just doing the Rex trick backwards<< ========= Difficulty ------------ Very hard because of the back catch ------------ Extra notes >>>first learn the Rex trick >>>practice ========= (Please ignore or comment this because this is new) =========
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Date: Fri, May 11 2012 17:28:23
^ Isn't that done by TBG already? He even made a video of it. [video=youtube;9vReZ7gPBk8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vReZ7gPBk8[/video]
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Date: Sat, May 12 2012 01:09:30
I think My way of the Rev Rex trick is the total reverse try looking at this video of Ace doing the Rex trick and try to imagine how it is reversed
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Date: Sun, May 13 2012 04:01:45
Cont. PD TA, anyone? Saw it an a double in the WC. Crazy.
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Date: Sun, May 13 2012 12:13:34
Rex trick harmonic?
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Date: Sun, May 13 2012 13:31:14
Do rex trick rev exist?
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Date: Tue, May 15 2012 08:50:06
MickChickenn wrote: Cont. PD TA, anyone? Saw it an a double in the WC. Crazy.
it was performed. even three times here's the video skip to 0:29 - 0:31 [SPOILER="PD FLTA x3!!!"][video=youtube;dzcozozQ0MA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzcozozQ0MA[/video][/SPOILER] @topic, here's my idea [SPOILER="Mirrored Switch Spread Reverse"]Description: > 1.) A mirrored powerpass reverse is performed (up to... let's say up to middle finger. But it can be done up to any finger). > 2.) Then, the pen is thrown to the air using the push of a finger standing up or going out (to what finger the mirrored powerpass reverse is performed, let's say up to the middle finger, as I said) and with the hand moving upward for extra force. > 3.) Then the pen is caught on top of a folded index finger (or any finger) then 1 and 2 is repeated. Difficulty: 9/10 - this is completely made by experimentation, although I haven't pulled it off even once. Possible Breakdown: mirrored powerpass reverse (up to any finger, let's say middle) > mirrored spread (described in 2) > on top of index > mirrored powerpass and so on... Extra Notes: > mirrored powerpass reverse was performed by fel2fram [SPOILER="Fel2Fram performing mirrored powerpass reverse"][video=youtube;zyRBHBjvygU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyRBHBjvygU[/video][/SPOILER][/SPOILER] -
Date: Tue, May 15 2012 14:05:51
shAdowz wrote: it was performed. even three times here's the video skip to 0:29 - 0:31 [SPOILER="PD FLTA x3!!!"][video=youtube;dzcozozQ0MA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzcozozQ0MA[/video][/SPOILER] @topic, here's my idea [SPOILER="Mirrored Switch Spread Reverse"]Description: > 1.) A mirrored powerpass reverse is performed (up to... let's say up to middle finger. But it can be done up to any finger). > 2.) Then, the pen is thrown to the air using the push of a finger standing up or going out (to what finger the mirrored powerpass reverse is performed, let's say up to the middle finger, as I said) and with the hand moving upward for extra force. > 3.) Then the pen is caught on top of a folded index finger (or any finger) then 1 and 2 is repeated. Difficulty: 9/10 - this is completely made by experimentation, although I haven't pulled it off even once. Possible Breakdown: mirrored powerpass reverse (up to any finger, let's say middle) > mirrored spread (described in 2) > on top of index > mirrored powerpass and so on... Extra Notes: > mirrored powerpass reverse was performed by fel2fram [SPOILER="Fel2Fram performing mirrored powerpass reverse"][video=youtube;zyRBHBjvygU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyRBHBjvygU[/video][/SPOILER][/SPOILER]
Yes, he can do it. How? -
Date: Tue, May 15 2012 16:52:31
Zeta wrote: Do rex trick rev exist?
Reverse thumbswivel reverse is thumbswivel normal. It is performed like the rex trick, but the pen turns the other way under the hand. Not hard, but not as cool. -
Date: Thu, May 17 2012 03:53:01
MickChickenn wrote: Yes, he can do it. How?
i think he just quickly does another PD FLTA, gravity defying I can say ^_^ -
Date: Thu, May 17 2012 14:22:57
shAdowz wrote: i think he just quickly does another PD FLTA, gravity defying I can say ^_^
It just seems impossible. -
Date: Wed, May 30 2012 18:02:23
Mini Hybrid combo clip sonic (23-13) pass (34) sonic (34-13) invers sonic (13-12)
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Date: Wed, May 30 2012 18:40:43
Jin wrote: Mini Hybrid combo clip sonic (24-13) pass (34) sonic (34-13) invers sonic (13-12)
... That's a lot trickier than it first looks. -
Date: Wed, May 30 2012 19:15:12
Jin wrote: Mini Hybrid combo clip sonic (24-13) pass (34) sonic (34-13) invers sonic (13-12)
Im pretty sure there's a name for sonic 34-13 inverse sonic 13-12. Is it demons devils sonic? -
Date: Thu, May 31 2012 16:08:32
hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua xD first person to get this combo wins $1 million
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Date: Thu, May 31 2012 16:34:10
@Vic see above
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Date: Thu, May 31 2012 19:27:12
Optima wrote: hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua xD first person to get this combo wins $1 million
Fel2Fram has beaten this: [video=youtube;bhkGlhRgNRo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhkGlhRgNRo[/video] Pay up. -
Date: Sat, Jun 2 2012 04:12:52
Optima wrote: hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua > hai tua xD first person to get this combo wins $1 million
technically this is not 'continuous hai tua', because cont hai tua is interrupted (i.e. with ~ and not > ) O__O -
Date: Sat, Jun 2 2012 09:31:32
i.suk wrote: technically this is not 'continuous hai tua', because cont hai tua is interrupted (i.e. with ~ and not > ) O__O
So I could do it and get $1,000,000 -
Date: Sat, Jun 2 2012 09:38:03
eurocracy wrote: So I could do it and get $1,000,000
it's just doing hai tua t1-t1 continuously, with index pushing it each time (which is still hard to do x20+, but a lot easier than the conventional cont hai tua) =\ -
Date: Sat, Jun 2 2012 09:44:44
i.suk wrote: it's just doing hai tua t1-t1 continuously, with index pushing it each time (which is still hard to do x20+, but a lot easier than the conventional cont hai tua) =\
i actually find it extremely awkward to have to catch it so that i can push it with my index again. then again i can only do 2 cont hai tuas using the conventional method... -
Date: Sat, Jun 2 2012 18:38:32
sonic (34-13) invers sonic palm down (13-12) shadow (12-12) bust
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Date: Fri, Jun 15 2012 02:28:28
Go on an upside down roller coaster, do a quadruple hai tua starting on the bottom of the loop. On the fourth handaround, you should be at the top of the loop, then slam your hand downwards so the pen flies off your pinky finger in the direction of the ending point of the loop.. Let the pen spin however many times you want and fall to the bottom of the loop. Hopefully, you put the exact amount of force such that your coaster and the pen reach the same point at the bottom of the loop, and catch it in fingerless thumbaround position. Simplified explanation: Do a power trick on an upside down roller coaster and drop the pen off the top of the loop, and catch it at the bottom.
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Date: Fri, Jun 15 2012 16:09:08
@Joiemoie lol that reminds me of when I used to try doing a thumb around release in the middle of a backflip.
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Date: Fri, Jun 15 2012 19:57:10
Kyoflow wrote: @Joiemoie lol that reminds me of when I used to try doing a thumb around release in the middle of a backflip.
How did that turn out? -
Date: Fri, Jun 15 2012 21:18:28
Joiemoie wrote: How did that turn out?
The pen ended up in the tree... -
Date: Wed, Jun 20 2012 17:13:54
Infinty reverse? you start in t2 and then do a wiper>wiper reverse then pass to 12 and then do a "charge" motion near the end of the pen and then bring it back to a "writing position"
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Date: Mon, Jun 25 2012 19:04:30
twisted Sonic (34-12) Charge palm down warp sonic (12-34) palm down The warp sonic do like a shadow
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Date: Sat, Jul 7 2012 00:21:04
Cont. transitional PD power pass? That's probably a really bad way to word it but like start at on 34 of one hand and do a power pass and when you hit 12, pass the pen to 12 of the other hand and do a rev. power pass till you reach 34 of that hand when you pass it to 34 of the other hand and so on. Never seen this done before, but it seems like an interesting idea
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Date: Mon, Jul 9 2012 01:20:24
wiper spread -> stall tip of pen on back of hand -> falls to TF
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Date: Tue, Jul 10 2012 17:54:57
Is a Cont. FL PD around possible? Like a PD bust? I'm gonna need @i.suk for this.
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Date: Wed, Jul 11 2012 05:22:01
MickChickenn wrote: Is a Cont. FL PD around possible? Like a PD bust? I'm gonna need i.suk for this.
yes, it is quite possible, i've done pd ia > pd fl ia x3 and a similar thing with middle and ring to x2 before, and some guy from PPSC apparently did pd ta > pd fl ta x4 or 5 (he also used a triple on in wc12) -
Date: Wed, Jul 11 2012 17:39:21
i.suk wrote: yes, it is quite possible, i've done pd ia > pd fl ia x3 and a similar thing with middle and ring to x2 before, and some guy from PPSC apparently did pd ta > pd fl ta x4 or 5 (he also used a triple on in wc12)
What the hell. I've seen it happen with the thumb before, but with other fingers? You so crazy i.suk and PPSC guy. -
Date: Thu, Jul 12 2012 05:48:39
Thats crazy man
i.suk wrote: yes, it is quite possible, i've done pd ia > pd fl ia x3 and a similar thing with middle and ring to x2 before, and some guy from PPSC apparently did pd ta > pd fl ta x4 or 5 (he also used a triple on in wc12)
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Date: Mon, Jul 23 2012 21:48:11
fl rev ta -> rev palmspin .5 -> rev shadow tf-12 (all in one motion) I have done this but it comes put sketch everytime and i cant do it on que. :/ but maybe someone else might enjoy learning this trick!
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Date: Mon, Jul 23 2012 22:42:46
Looks cool I think its more of a linkage
spenpinner wrote: fl rev ta -> rev palmspin .5 -> rev shadow tf-12 (all in one motion) I have done this but it comes put sketch everytime and i cant do it on que. :/ but maybe someone else might enjoy learning this trick!
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Date: Mon, Jul 23 2012 22:49:46
@Alex, your right, it is. I just said trick to dave time.
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Date: Mon, Jul 23 2012 23:49:13
I can prolly do TA->palmspin->shadow, but not reverse
spenpinner wrote: @Alex, your right, it is. I just said trick to dave time.
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Date: Tue, Jul 24 2012 00:54:35
I could too but i think rev looks cooler because the rev shadow adds more rotation.
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Date: Tue, Jul 24 2012 01:00:34
lol not really theoretical if you can do it :P im sure there are others who can do it..including myself
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Date: Tue, Jul 24 2012 22:25:05
hasn't been caught on camera yet!...at least i don't think it has??? someone who can do it well should film it, though.
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Date: Thu, Aug 9 2012 21:28:56
Sorry for double post. Swivel 1-12 ~> fl shadow ~> .5 rev midbak~> swivel 2-23 ~> fl shadow ~> .5 rev ringbak ~> swivel 3-34 ~> fl shadow ~> .5 rev pinkybak ~> swivel 4 ~> fl rev pinkybak ~> (optional) palm spin ~> Fl ta
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Date: Wed, Aug 15 2012 09:38:10
Anyone possibly come up with Duncan.reverse tut. ? :)
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Date: Wed, Aug 15 2012 09:38:44
Punkan**android autocorrect eat shit
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Date: Thu, Aug 16 2012 00:35:55
Rev swivel tf-palm ~> aerial wristaround -> fl ta
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Date: Thu, Aug 16 2012 03:09:51
PD switch spread... i have gotten it in pieces, but theres no way i could do the whole thing...
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Date: Fri, Aug 17 2012 09:38:58
Inverse pinky busts
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Date: Sat, Aug 18 2012 01:06:55
Ichigo wrote: Inverse pinky busts
doesnt s777 do that -
Date: Mon, Sep 3 2012 13:13:08
Not really theoretical, because I can already do them (I lack control for videos atm though ._.): sonic 34-24 ~ pinkyaround 24-24 > middle around rev 24-23 flushsonic 34-14 ~ indexaround rev 14-14 > pinkybak 14-34 inv warped sonic 12-23 ~ basketballspin 3-2 ~ devil's stall spin(?) 2-12 Last trick is a spin on the fingertip where the nails is
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Date: Tue, Sep 4 2012 06:53:12
Kyoflow wrote: doesnt s777 do that
They are inverse pinky backarounds. -
Date: Sun, Aug 18 2013 11:16:58
Fake Reverse Palmspin: You start off with a reverse Ta, then do 0.25 palmspin but with the end of the pen still in your thumbflap so the pen ends up being in a position like you want to do a charge with a Thumpflap push. Difficulty: Quite easy but confusing