UPSB v4
General Discussion / Thai style VS JEB style
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 08:22:07
hey guys, I am not sure whether to go for JEB or Thai. but Thai looks cool.. and JEB needs ALOT of practice to smoothen the linkages.. So.. can you guys help me decide which to go for? , Im 8months spinner, and i just came back from losing interest in PS. my current mods that i have: Bonkura CT, waterfall, SEVEN, DR AC,kuzu g3, Mesi g3, soschie cyl, soschie G3,ayatori AND MOAR KTs
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 08:41:09
Apples VS Oranges Which one do you prefer more? Frog~
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 08:42:30
Go for your own style. Following someone or something too much isn't cool, really. If you want to choose, I'd say JEB. We have already had too many powertrickers, this world needs to be balanced. :>
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 09:08:59
@Enkronidus yea i know following isnt cool, but just want to know what style should i pick on so that i can practice on that style lets say i pick thai style , i will focus more on power tricks only.. umm.. ok.. thanks for advice.. could u tell me some of the JEB tricks? sry if im being a noob..
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 09:18:22
Watch and learn on your own for the best quality of learning But I still convince you to come up with your own style. It's much more easier in a way
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 09:25:44
Idk if HAL's style or Menowa*'s style belongs to which group ? They can do PWT, they can perform ridiculous linkages with incredible smoothness ... ? Anyway, for you, spin the way you like >.> You don't need to follow any style to be good
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 09:43:14
@Elune yea its true we dont need to follow style.. but i think i'll go for thai style mix jeb ( Not exactly copy-ing Supawit, spinnerpeem) i just want to know what category of tricks should i concentrate more.. ex, powertricks . anyways guys hows my spinning for a 8month? ( on and off in ps tho). and my quality?? [video=youtube;VP2VYtS934k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP2VYtS934k&feature=youtu.be[/video]
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 09:45:58
go for a mix, that's what I'd say. if you want to be more JEB, search for some old school ones like SEVEN's 2008 style, Toro, kUzu as well as the others (kururiasu, ZUNDA,etc,etc not so fluent in PS nowadays). just try to maintain balance :3
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 09:59:35
they are board and community.. do all the members have only one style?
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 10:22:46
I was stuck at this decision myself a few months ago. Ended up going power with no style now ==" You get more haters on UPSB if you go power <- protip #69.
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 10:28:48
o.o why haters?
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 10:32:30
Elune wrote: Idk if HAL's style or Menowa*'s style belongs to which group ? They can do PWT, they can perform ridiculous linkages with incredible smoothness ... ? Anyway, for you, spin the way you like >.> You don't need to follow any style to be good
HAL and Menowa are DC JEB style, it's a lot different from MX or SC style. DC JEB is more about keeping a continuous spinning motion and doing it very fast, Menowa basically took that and threw more power tricks in. -
Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 11:46:47
lol imo you should go for a mix if you wanna stand out cos even if you master a common jeb mx style you wont be able to get very far,pple will just note you as : "that guy with jeb mx style" or stuffs like that be creative,go explore different aspects of pen spinning :D Edit : menowa* style is somewhat like ayatori imo,just faster n with moar power
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 11:48:43
eurocracy wrote: HAL and Menowa are DC JEB style, it's a lot different from MX or SC style. DC JEB is more about keeping a continuous spinning motion and doing it very fast, Menowa basically took that and threw more power tricks in.
Sorry to disagree with what you say, specifically with what HAL and Menowa * have a style defined as "DC JEB" Mainly, I think, as you note, HAL and Menowa * have a particular style that leaves the root of JEB, but this is mainly due to the great mixture that are having today the Japanese spinners, which, of somehow impact globally (like it or not, JEB is the most influential board) Based on what I've seen, is mostly what the penspinning been experiencing for some time, eradication of the dichotomous world of the Thai Style and JEB / Korean Style. -
Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 11:49:18
for the longest time i didnt really have a style. i started learning power tricks about a year ago and ever since then i practice them alot, but along that way i perfected my freestyle which allowed me to develop a style. i only really practice power tricks now to incorporate them in my freestyles and develop their styles. so the point is that you shouldnt have to choose between them if you like them both. you can develop your own style and incorporate parts of those styles.... btw it seems like you are on your way to being a pretty good spinner judging by your video, but still you will have to practice a bit before you can really determine your style.
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 12:46:38
imo stop using 'labels' for styles, since there are many diverse styles within JEB and Thai, and 'Thai' style as per the 2008-2009 definition has expanded significantly to the point where it's hardly anything like what the previous label was (although there are still some power spammers nowadays i guess) similarly, there are subtle differences within JEB mx users (e.g. pinky position); and the JEB 'DC' mod users (e.g. HAL, menowa*) are kind of a 'hybrid' of styles, it isn't accurate to label any pen spinner as purely 'thai' or 'jeb', that's like assuming since someone is asian, they're automatically a maths genius (well, it's true sometimes, but not true at other times too) alternatively, you can perfect execution and improve style (which helps for most paths in PS, regardless of labels/general direction), and learn a large range of tricks and linkages, experiment with different setups/angles/mods/lighting, so you can 'modify' the appearance of your spinning depending on what impact you are aiming for ^^ about there being enough 'thai' or 'JEB' style users (other than crappy stereotyping), there's a fair number of spinners who may be grouped into those vague categories, ultimately, your personal decision should not be based primarily on the 'hate' you will receive, or how many other people are using that style; your style should be determined by what YOU want to do :) spin the way you want :D
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 12:48:33
@Reason hey, Can you tell me what is good in my FS01? and what do i need to imrpove on? I know this sound STUPID but i've practiced this Linkage for the past 8months cause im lazy to go youtube and learn new tricks.. im always lazy to learn a new tricks cause MODS distracts me >.> its like I want to mod a new mod and that distracts me from learning PS tricks.. so i felt like im kind of a noob now that i priortize mod over tricks.. i hope i can learn PS tricks regularly like what i did last time, My new house rules are only 1hour of internet weekdays, weekends about 3-5hours. so is there any tips on what should i do on weekdays and weekdays? ex. weekdays learn 1-5 tricks? or ????.. and yea.. I LOVE to go for the mix. like um advanced tricks + Power tricks.. as u can see in my video I dont even know what style am i doing.. i think its just my own style :) but in that video i HAVENt learn power trick yet. so its kinda like a pen-to-hand thingy rather than a -pen-fly( power tricks) thingy LOL. ok u probably are bored reading this :) hope u can answser my questions :)
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 12:52:29
@i.suk yea i understand.. i shoudlnt label them as thai spinner or jeb spinner.. But its like a decision stuck in my mind now that whether should i learn more power tricks ( focus on power tricks) or smooth linkages. i was thinking i just learn whatever i can maybe 10tricks ( individual tricks like maybe hybrid tricks?) and some power tricks ( about 5 power) and combine it to my OWN linkage.. and as ui can see in the video i DID not copy anyone's Linkage. i made up that linkage :).. so i wonder how do u guys feel about my linkage? is it good? smooth? or just plain deep shit? LLOlz
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 13:11:53
DoubleBlackDB wrote: @i.suk yea i understand.. i shoudlnt label them as thai spinner or jeb spinner.. But its like a decision stuck in my mind now that whether should i learn more power tricks ( focus on power tricks) or smooth linkages. i was thinking i just learn whatever i can maybe 10tricks ( individual tricks like maybe hybrid tricks?) and some power tricks ( about 5 power) and combine it to my OWN linkage.. and as ui can see in the video i DID not copy anyone's Linkage. i made up that linkage :).. so i wonder how do u guys feel about my linkage? is it good? smooth? or just plain deep shit? LLOlz
i think smooth linkages are more useful for getting an all-rounded development in pen spinning, you can train a little bit of power at the same time though (e.g. for finishers); learn whatever you want x) what's your yt channel? -
Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 13:40:35
oh.. thanks so i will just learn power and at the same time hybrid tricks to combine and form my own linkage :) . yt channel : DeSuMsRaWkS , FS01
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 13:49:22
Enkronidus wrote: Following someone or something too much isn't cool, really.
:< I'm still trying to follow Caras after all these years -
Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 14:36:50
I have my own style and its best to focus on having your own personal style rathar than a particular style. I suggest JEB style works best since they all have variety and different linkages rather than just power tricks
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 15:18:30
it is possible to do both actually lol for example, like doing 1p2h powertricks with a MX, while keeping the linkages together. you feel me?
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 15:32:28
@DoubleBlackDB it seems like you generally understand smoothness and simple linkages, but you should really expand your interest area. its basically a necessity to watch other videos to understand linkages you wouldnt have thought of otherwise. as for learning tricks, i would suggest you hold off on learning power tricks for a little bit. all tricks take different amounts of time to learn, but i think learning 2 or 3 at the same time is usually a good idea. also make sure that you completely understand the trick before taking your own time to practice it. you can always ask on upsb, everyone was once a noob.
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 16:28:52
ya.. ok thanks alot reason :).. and what u mean by expanding my interest area?.. i dun get that part >;(
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 18:28:50
Do chinese style! lots of large movement expression, two hands always, and live spinning!
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 18:42:20
Chobi wrote: :< I'm still trying to follow Caras after all these years
And how ironic because I'm following Eriror, lol -
Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 18:56:58
Basically, here is what it comes down to: Thai style: Looks good, successful, lots of hating unless done perfectly, people think you are a badass (or a no-life) for all the effort and difficulty you put into your combos. JEB style: Usually unsccessful, gets you all the bitches, people think you are a badass for your asthetic choices.
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 21:28:57
Spinners from certain communities aren't always attached and labeled to one specific style; although, there are some general trends (i.e. JEB, Thai-spinner, LPSA?) There are always exceptions to the trends. For example, as stated above, HAL, shinra, metal, menowa, etc. As for determining which style is "better"; Thai vs JEB. It can be concluded that there is no better style, after all, PS is subjective in general. But it seems you are intent on finding a definitive answer... if so then:
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MickChickenn wrote: Basically, here is what it comes down to: Thai style: Looks good, successful, lots of hating unless done perfectly, people think you are a badass (or a no-life) for all the effort and difficulty you put into your combos. JEB style: Usually unsccessful, gets you all the bitches, people think you are a badass for your asthetic choices.
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Date: Sun, Apr 8 2012 21:40:18
You guys all think too much. Forget about what "style" you want and just learn what you want to learn. Watch videos, steal things you like, sit down and experiment, come up with things you think are cool, and just enjoy it, lol.
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Date: Mon, Apr 9 2012 01:19:49
I think whether you like it or not you develop your own style. I personally think JEB > THPSC style wise so I guess that influenced my spinning.
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Date: Mon, Apr 9 2012 03:54:14
I think you should learn combos and linkage of Jeb and learn power trick of thai style , however, I think you should create your own style because I want you to be you , not a copy of someone .You learn what you like because it can be right for you
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Date: Mon, Apr 9 2012 04:17:40
Just be a conformist and stick with JEB style.
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Date: Mon, Apr 9 2012 06:11:58
I agree with casual's post. Just learn what you want to learn, if you like a certain way of spinning such as the hefty use of power tricks, then learn power tricks. I just want to point out the way some users are using the terms, "THPSC style" and "JEB style" or any board's style. I haven't really been that active in the past couple months. When I watch one of those international collaborations and see just the spinner's ID, I can't tell which board they're from. My point is, as isuk has stated earlier, I hate the generalizations that are being used since they often, if you look carefully enough, do not always and not even that often, apply at all. I have a feeling that THPSC has gotten the reputation of using power tricks just because of the famous spinners leading THPSC like peem and supawit but that doesn't make all of THPSC power-hefty spinners. Same goes for JEB, their reputation as a whole is represented by a few select, but famous, spinners like SEVEN, key3, or whoever from JEB is still active nowadays.
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Date: Mon, Apr 9 2012 09:42:36
Hmm... I don't think so about this discussion :/ but don't mark any style like Thai-style' or 'JEB-style'... Just do what style you want. That's more than enough.
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Date: Mon, Apr 9 2012 11:55:34
MAY BE menawa* 's style fit you.
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Date: Mon, Apr 9 2012 14:28:51
mhig wrote: I agree with casual's post. Just learn what you want to learn, if you like a certain way of spinning such as the hefty use of power tricks, then learn power tricks. I just want to point out the way some users are using the terms, "THPSC style" and "JEB style" or any board's style. I haven't really been that active in the past couple months. When I watch one of those international collaborations and see just the spinner's ID, I can't tell which board they're from. My point is, as isuk has stated earlier, I hate the generalizations that are being used since they often, if you look carefully enough, do not always and not even that often, apply at all. I have a feeling that THPSC has gotten the reputation of using power tricks just because of the famous spinners leading THPSC like peem and supawit but that doesn't make all of THPSC power-hefty spinners. Same goes for JEB, their reputation as a whole is represented by a few select, but famous, spinners like SEVEN, key3, or whoever from JEB is still active nowadays.
Listen to this guy, he's been at it for longer than most people on here. Hai mhig <3