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Philosophy / Is Penspinning a sport?
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Date: Sun, Mar 25 2012 00:40:03
Literaly, I think sport just means a physical activity, but whether or not things are actually considered sports is a matter of opinion. I draw the line at whether or not the activity is a sport based on its requiring physical skill. Chess, although it does require physical action, is not a sport because the skill is mental. Soccer is a sport because it also requires physical skill. Under this definition, I believe psing is not only literaly a sport, but that it would also fit under most people's opinion of what a sport is. What are your opinons: Is Psing a sport?, What is a Sport? ect.
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Date: Sun, Mar 25 2012 00:50:00
sport, meh, i consider it an art, or just a form of juggling
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Date: Sun, Mar 25 2012 00:51:56
you can't brag about how athletic you are cuz you spin, so it doesn't fit in with sport under common usage
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Date: Sun, Mar 25 2012 01:10:54
it's not a sport, it obviously doesn't require a certain amount of athleticism to make you better at it. It's about perfection of certain tricks, and linking them together to make innovative combinations, I think it deserves the title of an Art.
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Date: Sun, Mar 25 2012 01:12:51
Do you think painting is a sport?
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Date: Sun, Mar 25 2012 01:59:00
Closer to an art than a sport, it isn't like you get a workout from it (unless you are Peem).
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Date: Sun, Mar 25 2012 02:11:25
if you are doing punkans or you are ponkotu, yes
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Date: Sun, Mar 25 2012 02:11:46
i think its a hobby
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Date: Sun, Mar 25 2012 02:20:25
RicLu98 wrote: if you are doing punkans or you are ponkotu, yes
or if you are ocha -
Date: Sun, Mar 25 2012 02:23:41
Noun: An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others. So it does require skill and we do compete against others so technically i guess it is but i rather think it of as a art.
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Date: Sun, Mar 25 2012 02:31:08
spinning=sport modding=art
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Date: Sun, Mar 25 2012 03:01:38
drgripable wrote: it's not a sport, it obviously doesn't require a certain amount of athleticism to make you better at it.
Bowling, golf, curling, ect dont really either and they are all sports. @Wobster I think painting is too concept based and drawn out to be considered a sport. It does fit under my requirements, but it is more of a small loop hole than a theory breaker. The only physical skill comes from brush strokes, and unlike pen spinning one cant really compete while painting. -
Date: Sun, Mar 25 2012 03:17:31
Definitely stuff like the World Cup and such counts as pen spinning as a sport.
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Date: Sun, Mar 25 2012 03:56:52
Physical Activity: Marginal. If you are spinning a buster or heavy mod, you do strengthen your hands, I guess. Competition Level: There is a good amount. Technically, it is a sport. In reality, it is not. It is a hobby, or maybe an art form.
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Date: Thu, Mar 29 2012 21:49:20
That's debatable,you can't compare a 400m sprinter to a pen spinner can you. Say Dance is a sport right but say contemporary dance is a art form still dance though. Pen Manipulation is an Art form in my opinion like XCM
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Date: Fri, Mar 30 2012 00:04:28
Yes it is a sport
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Date: Fri, Mar 30 2012 01:00:19
I think it's all of these: hobby, sport, and art.
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Date: Sat, Mar 31 2012 16:55:43
It can be considered a sport, since there are world tournaments for it. Anything that can be competed for is a sport, or at least that is what I read somewhere.
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Date: Sat, Mar 31 2012 18:04:18
i think it just depends on what you think it is personally since everyone thinks differently so sport/art or not doesn't matter too much XD just keep spinning
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Date: Wed, Apr 18 2012 23:27:01
Well cup stacking is considered a sport, why not spinning?
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Date: Thu, Apr 19 2012 00:15:57
to me it is a skill of manipulation and creativity.
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Date: Thu, Jun 21 2012 22:30:29
I personally find psing to be more of a worldwide competitive hobby. It's kinda like marching band and cheerleading (only examples I could think of), they're not exactly considered sports in the way most people see sports, but it's still competitive and an activity so it's categorized as a competitive hobby. Psing falls under very similar circumstances. Also, while the WC and the WT do make it more identifiable as a sport, it's still kinda iffy since when taking up psing, not everyone does it to compete (which is one of the basic defining points of sports).
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Date: Fri, Jun 22 2012 00:08:13
Then again, parkour and free running alr considered sports, but most postpone don't compete in it :P I'm just gonna say this is a manipulative art form, much like all other circus arts
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Date: Fri, Jun 22 2012 08:33:18
Yeah its not exactly a sport more of a skill that's learnt or an art that. Can be improved on
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Date: Fri, Jun 22 2012 10:31:17
I think it's pretty obviously a sport in some sense, physical exertion is clearly not necessary for sports, think of snooker for instance, a perfect example since it shows sport can require almost no physical fitness whatsoever to be played well. While I don't think direct competition is essential, I think there has to be some way that one can win or lose, for instance hunting may be a sport because killing the animal is winning, and not killing it is losing. So if you're PSing by yourself, there is no way to win or lose, so it is not a sport, just like practising football outside alone might make you better at football (a sport), but you aren't actually playing football, so you're not doing a sport. However, if you PS for a battle either friendly or in a world cup/tournament, I think PSing is a sport. One last thing, sport shouldn't involve a significant luck component, hence I would consider chess a sport (this is not a controversial opinion, the International Olympic Committee considers chess a sport), but monopoly is not.
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Date: Fri, Jun 22 2012 11:59:27
lol, i think pen spinning is a hobby but powertricking is a sport xD
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Date: Fri, Jan 18 2013 18:32:39
IKON wrote: That's debatable,you can't compare a 400m sprinter to a pen spinner can you. Say Dance is a sport right but say contemporary dance is a art form still dance though. Pen Manipulation is an Art form in my opinion like XCM
That may be true but there are other people you could compair penspinners to in A sport for example you cannot compair a ping pong player or golf player to a 400m sprinter but you could compair them to penspinners or there closer to penspinning that a 400m sprinter is close to ping pong or golf in my eyes penspinning it a sport in ALL definitions BUT it is also a art just the same just like its a skill or hobby too i dont beleve it is more anything than anything -
Date: Tue, Jun 25 2013 06:06:56
I consider it a combination between a sport and an art. :) So you could say that it's a spart
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Date: Wed, Jul 31 2013 01:18:46
Kinda, its more of an art or sumthing like juggling. but you could consider it one, Gaming is now considered a sport ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Date: Wed, Jul 31 2013 02:47:39
An art and a sport? It's an art because it is a piece of work that not just any person can do. And it's a sport because it takes practice and always calls for improvement.
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Date: Wed, Jul 31 2013 04:21:46
It all depends on how you define sport.
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Date: Wed, Jul 31 2013 22:03:33
There's no way this is a sport... Lol
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Date: Wed, Jul 31 2013 23:21:45
catfish wrote: There's no way this is a sport... Lol
yo mah niga, it is a sport -
Date: Thu, Aug 1 2013 00:08:04
Yamaguchi wrote: yo mah niga, it is a sport
Shiiiiiit my bad dawg, you right you right -
Date: Thu, Aug 1 2013 00:13:27
catfish wrote: Shiiiiiit my bad dawg, you right you right
no mah mate, i'm not serios bout that dawg :( -
Date: Thu, Aug 1 2013 00:32:43
Yamaguchi wrote: no mah mate, i'm not serios bout that dawg :(
Don't worry, I knew you weren't serious ;P -
Date: Tue, Nov 5 2013 01:55:52
I have been thinking and I was reading a philosophical manga called Vagabond. It depicts a bloody story of Miyamoto Musashi, one of the greatest swordsman in history. Throughout the story Mushashi begins to change, and understands the purpose of his blade. A sword was made to kill. Which is why it is most beautiful when it kills. So I thought does this not apply here? A pen was made to write, not spin. So where is the beauty at? Are we sullying the use of pens? Yet, when we make mods, their purpose is to spin. But few mods return to their roots, and sadly many a pens are wasted. The sole purpose of a pen is to write, so where is the future and what does it hold Regards Zen
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Date: Tue, Nov 12 2013 19:21:09
Zen wrote: I have been thinking and I was reading a philosophical manga called Vagabond. It depicts a bloody story of Miyamoto Musashi, one of the greatest swordsman in history. Throughout the story Mushashi begins to change, and understands the purpose of his blade. A sword was made to kill. Which is why it is most beautiful when it kills. So I thought does this not apply here? A pen was made to write, not spin. So where is the beauty at? Are we sullying the use of pens? Yet, when we make mods, their purpose is to spin. But few mods return to their roots, and sadly many a pens are wasted. The sole purpose of a pen is to write, so where is the future and what does it hold
This is a valid point, however in the legend of King Arthur, the beauty of the sword Excalibur was not during war; instead, the height of the beauty of Excalibur was being pulled out of the stone. Another point is in the Ramayana the bow of Shiva was not used to shoot things; the height of importance of the bow of Shiva was when Rama broke it. So there are some exceptions, who's to say that penspinning isn't one of the exceptions? -
Date: Tue, Nov 12 2013 21:04:54
It's not a sport, It's an Art, a way of living
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Date: Wed, Nov 13 2013 23:50:40
I agree, it is an art...
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Date: Thu, Nov 14 2013 00:42:03
Someone set up a poll between art and sport already =/
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Date: Tue, Nov 19 2013 17:28:47
To answer this question. Everyone has their definiton of sport. Mine is something that takes practice and an activity. Art is another. I believe it's a mixture of a sport and an art. The sport of spinning is the practice and the deication, it takes to get a trick down. The art is doing a trick or getting that combo that looks smooth and amazing. For me, it's both but if we would tell another person it's a sport all they would say is "yea right, a sport?" because they don't know the time it takes to get a trick down and make a combo look just right. Pen spinning is a mixture of art and a sport.B)
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Date: Tue, Nov 19 2013 20:02:35
The 'very root' meaning of a word to determine its overall meaning, or how the word refers to something, it should have been a more rigid term with proper filters, rather than having gaps. There is no one to be blame for it. So yeah, too bad about the limitation of the dictionaric definition, which is kind of vague. It causes people to give their own opinion and fucks things up. Oxford says:
'an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment:'
Well, okay. But it doesn't say that how many calories must be burnt in order for something to be classified as sport OR how much skill is required, how much time is consumed to 'master' it. I also don't get it how shooting is classified as sport. It barely requires you to do anything that much other than aiming and pulling trigger. So, judging from that definition, PS is a sport, perhaps a not-very-official one. It's more like a form of art to me, but many sports are also artistic, such as shooting sport or freestyle soccer. -
Date: Wed, Nov 20 2013 02:42:10
Sport: (according to http://www.simpleprop.com/wadE/sport.html) 1. An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively. 2. An active diversion requiring physical exertion and competition (Physical exertion being aerobic or anaerobic exercise, PS being anaerobic, if one could consider PS a form of muscle building in the fingers). So according to this, pen spinning is a sport.
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Date: Sun, Jan 5 2014 12:20:15
i dont think its a sport, i think its more of a performance like dancing
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Date: Tue, Apr 29 2014 06:13:30
To me pen spinning is more of a art then a sport. It does have it sports like qualitys during competitions. Beyond that pen spinning to me is more of extension of ones emotions using the pen as the outlet.
