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General Discussion / Racial Inequality in Pen Spinning
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Date: Fri, Mar 2 2012 16:12:18
Pen spinning is mainly popular amongst white people and asians (east asia). There are hardly any black or indian/pakistani etc pen spinners. The only black spinner i can name is Kola. Is there a reason behind this? What do you guys think?
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Date: Fri, Mar 2 2012 16:25:27
There's this black French spinner, but I forgot his name. His YT description is 'Je suis black'. Indians - TheAafg, Lebanese - Wonder. Oh yeah, I think Huroni is black too.
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Date: Fri, Mar 2 2012 16:54:00
Yup, Huroni is black too. And that French spinner you said it's KoLa (sun)
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Date: Fri, Mar 2 2012 16:55:34
There's no inequality, just circumstantial/incidental non-uniform distribution as far as race or w/e goes. It isn't like it's a problem, because it has just tended to that.
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Date: Fri, Mar 2 2012 17:00:13
Iota wrote: There's no inequality, just circumstantial/incidental non-uniform distribution as far as race or w/e goes. It isn't like it's a problem, because it has just tended to that.
Agreed. I don't know, I think this kind of skills as well as most manipulation arts seem to be more attractive to asians or white. Everybody starts penspinning at their own choice, it's just that they don't start, lol. -
Date: Fri, Mar 2 2012 17:00:41
Iota wrote: There's no inequality, just circumstantial/incidental non-uniform distribution as far as race or w/e goes. It isn't like it's a problem, because it has just tended to that.
I'm not trying to say it's a problem, i'm just not sure what term i can use to describe what i'm trying to get across. -
Date: Fri, Mar 2 2012 17:04:49
its kind of obvious. which race spends the most time sitting at a desk.
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Date: Fri, Mar 2 2012 17:22:45
I don't think it's so much a problem at all, and not in the places where you pointed out. There are indian and middle eastern pen spinners, we have yet to see however, pen spinning really come up in any African countries, like Egypt, or South Africa, or anywhere around there though. As for the actual race of spinners, no correlation imo. It's not like White and Asian people are more attracted or willing to start, or that they're more accepted, same thing with female spinners, it's simply incedental.
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Date: Fri, Mar 2 2012 19:44:03
I'm black, but I just recently got into it after watching the world cup round 2011, I just loved the whole concept of pen manipulation and all the creativity behind it. So I guess it's down to appreciation and willingness not necessarily race imo.
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Date: Fri, Mar 2 2012 20:27:43
IKON wrote: I'm black, but I just recently got into it after watching the world cup round 2011, I just loved the whole concept of pen manipulation and all the creativity behind it. So I guess it's down to appreciation and willingness not necessarily race imo.
Welcome to the pen spinning world. Nice to see another UK spinner. -
Date: Fri, Mar 2 2012 20:55:16
i think its that alot of other races ... i.e. black people are already dominating every sport and i dont think they want penspinning lol
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Date: Fri, Mar 2 2012 21:04:53
suppyfezzy wrote: i think its that alot of other races ... i.e. black people are already dominating every sport and i dont think they want penspinning lol
hahaha yeah dude. gafter they take over whatever they are working on right now they might go for next -
Date: Fri, Mar 2 2012 21:28:01
Matt wrote: its kind of obvious. which race spends the most time sitting at a desk.
Made my day! Especially since I was sitting at a desk for more than half of today...lol -
Date: Fri, Mar 2 2012 22:21:27
Half Indian spinner reporting in.
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Date: Fri, Mar 2 2012 22:23:20
Supergirl wrote: Pen spinning is mainly popular amongst white people and asians (east asia). There are hardly any black or indian/pakistani etc pen spinners.
It might just be that there are more asians relative to whites, more whites relative to blacks, ect. -
Date: Mon, Mar 12 2012 13:37:52
mah nigga shonenbatman
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Date: Mon, Mar 12 2012 15:54:46
Looks like most blacks have better stuff to do than hanging around on forums and fapping over underage asian girls or low quality video clips while practicing powertricks. :trollface: No, seriously, this is the same as complaining about the lack of women in top positions. Many attempts were done to make these jobs more attractive for them, but it doesn't look like there are enough of them interested in that. So please don't cry over things like these or even start calling it a racial issue.
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Date: Mon, Mar 12 2012 20:03:19
inequality? anyone can spin a pen, its not like basketball where short people are at a handicap or football where cripples are discouraged from practicing.
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Date: Mon, Mar 12 2012 20:41:41
Its not a racial issue. Lets look at the stereotypes i mean....statistics....... The main reason people don't spin or try and give up quickly is because they can't get it immediately. People with more patience can learn penspinning better. Not only that, but there are societal restraints. Whenever there is a "pen-flipping kid", a penspinner or NOT, it is always assumed that the person is asian. Furthermore, non-asians tend to have other interests such as social lives i mean sports. They would much rather spend time on sports than on penspinning which comes across as nerdy and unathletic.
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Date: Mon, Mar 12 2012 22:09:26
The way the title of this post sounds, it makes it sound like asians ands whites beat up anyone else who tries to penspin.
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Date: Mon, Mar 12 2012 22:19:35
@Stare What if you don't have hands...did you ever think of that!
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Date: Mon, Mar 12 2012 22:20:34
Tentcell2 wrote: The way the title of this post sounds, it makes it sound like asians ands whites beat up anyone else who tries to penspin.
who knows... maybe they do beat them up o.O well i think it is pure coincidence that there are not so many black or indian/pakistani pen spinners -
Date: Wed, Mar 14 2012 11:26:10
Well, IMO i don't think most Indians, some parts of the Middle East or Africans have access to the internet and good modding pens. (NO OFFENCE INTENDED AT ALL) Heck, I never got the idea to mod pens before joining this forum, nor do these places have ready to made spinning pens. =\ The African Americans, Dunno, ask them. Malaysian Indians and Malay? Most of them have no interest (but then, only a few of my chinese friends pen spin =.=) But then, there are loads of awesome black spinners too , like Shadow, or the thailand people. BTW, how is the colour of your skin determine your race? I mean, as an Asian, we're not just ASIAN, we have Chinese, Indian, Malay, Iban, Kadazan, Sikh and more in my country alone =.= Why is it that most Europeans or Americans think that all asian are Chinese or Japanese?
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Date: Wed, Mar 14 2012 12:57:29
Eazy wrote: how is the colour of your skin determine your race?
You better read up the definition(s) of race, ethnicity and nationality. ps. u guys r all chinese /w yo narrow eyes and ching chong language -
Date: Wed, Mar 14 2012 19:06:48
It's not coincidence. It's about interests and skills. I don't see many white rappers as well. Same logic.
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Date: Thu, Mar 15 2012 01:50:12
taichi1082 wrote: ps. u guys r all chinese /w yo narrow eyes and ching chong language
Eh, not all chinese have narrow eyes and speak "ching chong" language =P -
Date: Fri, Mar 16 2012 14:14:47
Eazy wrote: Eh, not all chinese have narrow eyes and speak "ching chong" language =P
Well, in my stereotype-ridden dreams they do! And they are all gambling in a smokey back alley, staring at me with their tiny eyes like I'm about to die... -
Date: Sat, Mar 17 2012 04:03:49
taichi1082 wrote: Well, in my stereotype-ridden dreams they do! And they are all gambling in a smokey back alley, staring at me with their tiny eyes like I'm about to die...
I seriously hope you're trolling =P But, not bad for gamblers in a smokey back alley, considering they're going to be dominating the world's economy soon~ (again, not much offence intended XD) -
Date: Sun, Mar 18 2012 00:20:10
crinix wrote: It's not coincidence. It's about interests and skills. I don't see many white rappers as well. Same logic.
If white people try to rap, they get beat up or made fun of. Different logic. -
Date: Sun, Mar 18 2012 00:32:45
Tentcell2 wrote: If white people try to rap, they get beat up or made fun of. Different logic.
Did I say black spinners are being beat up or made fun of? No you did not get my logic. -
Date: Sun, Mar 18 2012 00:44:45
crinix's logic was that black people just don't penspin. For whatever reason, they tend to stray away from it, like white people and rapping.
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Date: Sun, Mar 18 2012 00:50:12
No no, they do, you've never been to middle school in a middle class suburban area in the US.
drgripable wrote: For whatever reason, they tend to stray away from it, like white people and rapping.
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Date: Wed, May 2 2012 19:06:08
Well I am Pakistani and I ps as a hobby.... There isn't inequality just more of a popular thing with some people
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Date: Thu, May 3 2012 05:43:54
'Inequality' is hardly the word I'd use to describe it, more of 'unequal distribution'. All penspinners are treated fairly after all. XD Asian students spend a LOT of time at their desks, so when boredom strikes, penspinners appear. :D Not too sure about whites, though.
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Date: Thu, May 3 2012 09:07:56
taichi1082 wrote: mah nigga shonenbatman
realest nigga in the game who the fuck is zone anyway -
Date: Sat, May 5 2012 20:11:12
Matt wrote: its kind of obvious. which race spends the most time sitting at a desk.
Obviously it's black people...DUHH JK not meant to be racist or anything just a joke (sorry if you are offended) -
Date: Wed, May 16 2012 06:52:46
There is no racial inequality in pen spinning. i never heard anyone say that too, that no, you are blah blah race, you can't spin with us. lolwut? racial inequality in PS?
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Date: Mon, Mar 10 2014 00:45:51
Looking back at this thread I can tell that I definitely worded things wrongly. I just wanted to know why there are less black spinners compared to white and asian spinners.
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Date: Thu, Mar 13 2014 20:12:43
IKON wrote: I'm black, but I just recently got into it after watching the world cup round 2011, I just loved the whole concept of pen manipulation and all the creativity behind it. So I guess it's down to appreciation and willingness not necessarily race imo.
That also means that mosly Asians and whites appreciate the concept. -
Date: Fri, Mar 14 2014 05:31:35
heres my theory... if pen spinning first became popular in the china/japan/southeastasia area, it would be obvious why asians are one of the highest demographics to pen spin. Then we have this large group of Asians moving to western america in roughly the mid 1900s. most likely, some of those moving knew how to pen spin. when public schools were opened, the white kids prolly were impressed and learned from the asian kids. in those times, african american kids attended different public schools so they werent exposed to penspinning. so when internet and video sharing came about, the white kids shared penspinning to their friends overseas in europe. in a non racist way, white and black people arent exactly bubby-buddy with each other so they really werent shared between those two races. Also because most of africa prolly doesnt internet and the resources to start pen spinning (for exceptions of few costal cities and tourist spots, but im sure the people there have way better things to do instead) /end theory, feel free to bash, flame, complain, and whatnot
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Date: Fri, Mar 14 2014 06:57:44
You're wording sounds like we bash other races
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Date: Fri, Mar 14 2014 06:59:57
whuut, thats deep. Yeah you dont see many black spinners around except for Shadow tho.
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Date: Fri, Mar 14 2014 17:24:18
B1A4Tang wrote: whuut, thats deep. Yeah you dont see many black spinners around except for Shadow tho.
@ShadowParadox is black? -
Date: Fri, Mar 14 2014 17:26:25
Supergirl wrote: @ShadowParadox is black?
no im asian... the most asian guy youll ever know: i play the piano at grade 8, do swimming, i love maths, i know karate, and never play video games... oh and my parents are true asian parents. the only thing not asian about me is my accent -
Date: Fri, Mar 14 2014 20:16:52
lol I never heard of any racial inequality in ps, unless that person is as fucked up as my sister, she laugh at tan colored jap spinners
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Date: Sat, Mar 15 2014 02:32:20
There's no racial inequality, or hate towards any group of people really in PS for the most part, at least not that I know of. It's honestly mostly just that minorities are (as the word "minority" indicates) going to be even less represented in terms of demographics, when PS is so obscure and a minority of hobbies itself. Also has to do with cultural stuff I suppose, like that PS is probably more respected and known about in Europe/Asia than in the US, and since it doesn't get much exposure except in nerdy environments, the demographics reflect that kind of xD
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Date: Sat, Mar 15 2014 03:18:00
Yeah man racial inequality in the ps community is totally nonsense. Every spinner is equal and deserve just the same amount of hate.
Except for Asians though. Those people masturbate to math equations and ejaculate rice and shit yenno =============================== Yes I do have a fucked up sense of humour. -
Date: Sat, Mar 15 2014 04:30:21
[QUOTE='Leon[HKPSA];278701']Yeah man racial inequality in the ps community is totally nonsense. Every spinner is equal and deserve just the same amount of hate.
Except for Asians though. Those people masturbate to math equations and ejaculate rice and shit yenno =============================== Yes I do have a fucked up sense of humour.[/QUOTE] Cause that's not racist? And as an Asian I prefer to jerk off to jennifer Lawrence or real porn. And it would be pretty painful to cum rice -
Date: Sat, Mar 15 2014 05:04:40
I meant shadow2226 not the other Shadow.
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Date: Sat, Apr 19 2014 05:22:58
I'm Black.
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Date: Tue, Apr 29 2014 15:33:50
@Supergirl i think he meant shadowserpant
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Date: Tue, Apr 29 2014 17:54:26
Black guy names himself shadow, lmao.
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Date: Thu, Jun 26 2014 16:52:45
I am a black pen spinner. sup. I know my name doesn't suggest it but i put in a request for my name to be changed to AfroSquared. I get what u mean, out of all the psing videos i have watched i have never seen an black pen spinner
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Date: Thu, Jun 26 2014 17:52:02
Should there really be a discussion about this? The problem is that as people have already stated, Black people are not exposed to Pen spinning as much. It is not well known. The reason Asians are exposed to it are because, Pen Spinning started in Asia. During World War two i think. Asian people know pen spinning. Then when they spin in front of their friends, who are most likely asians, they want to learn it too. Although, this is just a stereotypical view on why asians are more keen on pen spinning.
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Date: Thu, Jun 26 2014 18:01:12
FOCM Squared wrote: I am a black pen spinner. sup. I know my name doesn't suggest it but i put in a request for my name to be changed to AfroSquared. I get what u mean, out of all the psing videos i have watched i have never seen an black pen spinner
[video=youtube;wUGphXVjw7g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUGphXVjw7g[/video] he's no longer active though -
Date: Thu, Jun 26 2014 21:54:28
[video=youtube;8PaoLy7PHwk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PaoLy7PHwk[/video] !!!
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Date: Fri, Jun 27 2014 15:48:18
thanks for posting this!!!! I thought i was the only black spinner
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Date: Fri, Jun 27 2014 16:08:57
@FOCM Squared Court34 is also a black spinner :)
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Date: Sun, Jun 29 2014 11:55:44
Greetings @FOCM Squared I'm UK too –*south coast. I think this thread may be wrongly named. There is a big difference between racial inequality and racial underrepresentation. From what I've seen in the few months since I started spinning, black spinners are clearly underrepresented (meaning that the percentage is smaller than the general population) but that's very different to inequality. Inequality would suggest that some spinners are treated unfairly based on their race –*and I've certainly seen none of that. I wouldn't want to be a part of any community like that. Rule Britannia! :) mpc
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Date: Sun, Jun 29 2014 12:51:28
More UK spinners...yay! Once we get enough u guys up for a gathering?
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Date: Sun, Jun 29 2014 13:56:25
mpc2014 wrote: Greetings @FOCM Squared I'm UK too –*south coast. I think this thread may be wrongly named. There is a big difference between racial inequality and racial underrepresentation. From what I've seen in the few months since I started spinning, black spinners are clearly underrepresented (meaning that the percentage is smaller than the general population) but that's very different to inequality. Inequality would suggest that some spinners are treated unfairly based on their race –*and I've certainly seen none of that. I wouldn't want to be a part of any community like that. Rule Britannia! :) mpc
Yeah i think that too...I also think that is hard for black people to pen spin because of their hands,and because of this they don't engage in very delicate activities that require dexterous hands. (this coming from a black person's point of view). All my black friends have overly large hands ( i have small hands compared to my friends (from my wrist i have 6 and a half inches, my friends have like 8 inches)) and have really strong hands. When I introduced my 2 black friends to pen spinning when i first started, one of them gave up and the other stuck with it. The one who stuck with it has been pen spinning for 6 months ( like me) and can only do the thumbaround and the 1 single charge motion which was really bad. I think he was bad cos black people have very strong and forceful hands (no wonder we are good at basketball (no stereotypical racism). I have really small hands and was naturally very dexterous. Because of their hands they don't take part in dexterous activities (that's why there aren't many black artists (apart from me...yes i am an aspiring artist)) In conclusion, that is my theory on why black people are underrepresented in the pen spinning world and all comments about black people came from a black person's opinion and observations (i.e me) -
Date: Sun, Jun 29 2014 14:46:36
MPC;284813]Greetings @FOCM Squared I'm UK too –*south coast. I think this thread may be[B] wrongly named.[/B] There is a big difference between racial inequality and racial underrepresentation. From what I've seen in the few months since I started spinning, black spinners are clearly underrepresented (meaning that the percentage is smaller than the general population) but that's very different to inequality. Inequality would suggest that some spinners are treated unfairly based on their race –*and I've certainly seen none of that. I wouldn't want to be a part of any community like that. Rule Britannia! :) mpc[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Supergirl wrote: Looking back at this thread I can tell that I definitely worded things wrongly. I just wanted to know why there are less black spinners compared to white and asian spinners.
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